"I'm felling fantastic, I'm fucking fantastic I wanna get drunk and Watch American Classic Drink champagne out of plastic Don't you want someone Crazy like me, babe?"
Isha changed her, a child from another timeline, who's been working at the mines for the past 7 years, who wasn't even hers but raised her like a sister/daughter, who changed her I understand why she said, *"There are no happy endings."*
I'm sorry for Vi, getting reunited with her sister was her motor for years and her only dream, but just becasue her sister stop being a mass murder and a terrorist dosen't make it better for her ton of victims who also deserve justice. Jinx Isn't calmed because she felt guilty or any wish to fix her mistakes, she didn't see them as mistakes, she is quiet because she lost a loved one and is sad bout it.
finally someone who tells the truth, So many children defending Jinx when Ekko witnessed her descent into darkness and Vi was never aware of the seriousness of the crimes. Cayltin herself does not know of any good deeds of Jinx (except saving her, but it is relative that she was also Saving Vander). How would Caytlin think a good version of Jinx if he has done nothing but try to kill her since he learned her name, three murder attempts and he shot her while the two were together. He could have killed her in the shower or shot her but he kidnaps her so that Vi can choose whether to live or die in exchange for her. Cayltin twice hesitated to stop Jinx for Vi and the consequences were serious. For her and Ekko, I feel bad for Vi, they both know her and it was that attachment that they both had for Vi that gave Jinx another chance even though they were the ones who suffered the most from Jinx's attacks.
@@germanojeda6272 Yeah but do you really think Jinx had any chance of growing into a sane person? She was raised in a high stress situation. Kill or be killed, constantly having to give all or nothing. I empathize with Jinx because I got isolated by people not enjoying my specific personality. All I had was a bit of autism. And a negative environment. Still live in it and try to navigate. Since this is the real world and something like Jinx her actions wouldn't fly ever. But I do get how she could entirely lose her marbles considering how much she got isolated in her life. Sure she had Silco but you see everyone's distaste of her. While her only wish is to belong. She sacrifices everything including any sense of morality just to not be alone and be a failure. Sure she won't regret any of her actions cause it was all for her personal goal of finding a place to belong. But can you really blame her when she's already on the edge of insanity trying to grasp onto any connection to not entirely lose all sense of self? And what's more is they all took what she managed to slowly build up in a healthy way and tossed it down the drain for her to add insult to injury. We're a social species, we need each other. And the moment you're an outcast the pressure to belong ramps up. On that account Jinx is more human than Caitlyn.
I would disagree. Jinx definitely feels guilt. We see her apologize to Caitlyn, which is CRAZY given their relationship and history as mortal enemies weeks before. I don't know any other reason than guilt and regret to do that. That was a conscious, intentional choice. Violence was her coping mechanism for survival. She didn't have a deep-seated desire for destruction and mayhem that Silco "discovered". Silco actively, intentionally reinforced her destructive capabilities through inventions to serve his idealistic needs. She wanted love so she felt obligated to do harm because that's how she got it. Her terrorist phase under Silco is objectively terrible. If this was a real person in todays world, we would lock her up for life or just lethal inject her. But like everything in Arcane its more nuanced, and I don't think she truly enjoyed harming others.
@@junrobin9335 Absolutely agree. What she did is bad, but it's not because she's a bad person. We are more often than not the product of our environments and influences. It's why people say be careful who you're friends with.
FR. Cait for me is my least favorite character.She got no consequences for what she did.And like Vi came back to her the minute she showed up.I love Vi but they did her dirty. I like the villains.My favorite characters are: Jinx,Viktor,ekko,and silco
Even after Vi told Cait that her parents were killed by enforcers, she still acts like her family WHO funded the enforcers are worth more than Vi and Jynx's parents. Cait and the rest of Piltover were the ones who ultimately escalated. Zaun was doing peaceful protests at the bridge, and Piltover killed them. So Zaun matched there acts.
Yes, but she felt she wasn't worth it. Her involvement in Vi's life has brought nothing but pain. She finally accepted she's a burden to others, especially Vi, and her best option is to erase herself.
@WickedHumor She also just lost Isha, too. The one last thing in Jinx's life that kept it from being over. Not to mention, she probably wouldn't be let off the hook that easy after killing the council among the other capital crimes she committed. She only hit rock bottom after losing Isha. Until Ekko came to change her mind.
She did have guilt. Her insanity came about because of accidentally killing the majority of her family and being rejected by Vi, and then having Silko reinforce her mania. By the time she was fully on her own without her mania being embraced, she had already killed those people. After she left that situation and the conflict with Caitlyn, she stepped back, wanting to disappear. The only reason she came back into focus was because Isha was taken. This is why she attempted suicide. She recognized the harm she did and didn't see another possible future other than causing more pain and losing more people. That's why Ekko was able to convince her, because he saw another version of her better than the original which gave her the motivation to be better. She recognized herself in the story and is a pretty self-aware character when looking at her dialogue. She also didn't redeem herself to anyone except maybe Ekko. Caitlyn had already let go of her anger. We dont know the reaction from the people of Piltover other than being grateful from her help coming in the finale. These characters are nuanced and very few can be considered not a shade of gray.
Why didn’t you go after your sister bro. She’s freaking dying like no one in their right mind would do anything other than chase her down. I was so annoyed at the writers or whoever let this happen. You can smooch your girlfriend LATER your sister is DYING
It's pretty clear Vi didn't think this was the case. She didn't realize how done Jinx was. We see her mental state as viewers, but Vi doesn't see her talking to Silco or Caitlyn in her cell.
@@captainroyalty904 Hey man totally cool, I just noticed a huge shift from Season one’s story telling and Season Two. Characters had development that happened at the speed of light like Jinx for example, There was no real consequences to anything (Vander/Caitlyn and Vi) and the writing just felt, bad at times. To me personally it lacked the emotional depth that the first season gave where characters were being fleshed out properly, they completely ruined Jinx in my opinion and Caitlyn switched teams immediately after seeing Vi for like one second which is pretty stupid imo. I could probably write this better if I rewatched it, because lmao that shit made me mad asf. So if I ever do a rewatch I’ll probably make a video on my issues with it! Those are all just my thoughts though on it. Everyone can have a different opinion.
@@ani-ma-tion5326 I see, thank you for your time and thoughts and opinions. I can agree that season 2 feels quite... Off, shifted as you mentioned. And the characters themselves have certainly developed and changed in an unprecedented way. I still found the show entertaining, but indeed there are many flaws and changes made that few can't be simply overlooked. Again thank you for your time. Have a good day.
“and then they were feeling fantastic”
"I'm felling fantastic, I'm fucking fantastic
I wanna get drunk and Watch American Classic
Drink champagne out of plastic
Don't you want someone Crazy like me, babe?"
And then Cupcake was eaten 😊
@ yup
Fucking fantastic?
Did they get drunk and watch American classics?
Arcane puts sex scenes at like the worst times lol, plus they are uncomfortably long, I’m talking about both of them
Such a sweet scene between friends. Next they hugged a lot as best friends.
Friends. Hugs. Hugging a friend
And then they had $£×💀
Yeah, they like celebrated it 😆
Sesbian lex
LMFAO 🤣
Oh yeah they did 😎
While jinx was tryna off herself lol
Isha changed her, a child from another timeline, who's been working at the mines for the past 7 years, who wasn't even hers but raised her like a sister/daughter, who changed her
I understand why she said, *"There are no happy endings."*
caitlyn helped her escape. FANTASTIC.
I never knew she was picking her nails like that. I do that as well when I'm in a negative state of mind. Crazy
Me at the end: No no no no no WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT
VI "I gonna eat you alive Cupcake"
NGL, I was scared I was gonna see vi “predictably” make out with cait
Ah yeah"make out"
I'm sorry for Vi, getting reunited with her sister was her motor for years and her only dream, but just becasue her sister stop being a mass murder and a terrorist dosen't make it better for her ton of victims who also deserve justice. Jinx Isn't calmed because she felt guilty or any wish to fix her mistakes, she didn't see them as mistakes, she is quiet because she lost a loved one and is sad bout it.
PREACH!
finally someone who tells the truth, So many children defending Jinx when Ekko witnessed her descent into darkness and Vi was never aware of the seriousness of the crimes. Cayltin herself does not know of any good deeds of Jinx (except saving her, but it is relative that she was also Saving Vander). How would Caytlin think a good version of Jinx if he has done nothing but try to kill her since he learned her name, three murder attempts and he shot her while the two were together. He could have killed her in the shower or shot her but he kidnaps her so that Vi can choose whether to live or die in exchange for her. Cayltin twice hesitated to stop Jinx for Vi and the consequences were serious. For her and Ekko, I feel bad for Vi, they both know her and it was that attachment that they both had for Vi that gave Jinx another chance even though they were the ones who suffered the most from Jinx's attacks.
@@germanojeda6272 Yeah but do you really think Jinx had any chance of growing into a sane person? She was raised in a high stress situation. Kill or be killed, constantly having to give all or nothing. I empathize with Jinx because I got isolated by people not enjoying my specific personality. All I had was a bit of autism. And a negative environment. Still live in it and try to navigate. Since this is the real world and something like Jinx her actions wouldn't fly ever.
But I do get how she could entirely lose her marbles considering how much she got isolated in her life. Sure she had Silco but you see everyone's distaste of her. While her only wish is to belong.
She sacrifices everything including any sense of morality just to not be alone and be a failure.
Sure she won't regret any of her actions cause it was all for her personal goal of finding a place to belong. But can you really blame her when she's already on the edge of insanity trying to grasp onto any connection to not entirely lose all sense of self? And what's more is they all took what she managed to slowly build up in a healthy way and tossed it down the drain for her to add insult to injury.
We're a social species, we need each other. And the moment you're an outcast the pressure to belong ramps up. On that account Jinx is more human than Caitlyn.
I would disagree. Jinx definitely feels guilt. We see her apologize to Caitlyn, which is CRAZY given their relationship and history as mortal enemies weeks before. I don't know any other reason than guilt and regret to do that. That was a conscious, intentional choice.
Violence was her coping mechanism for survival. She didn't have a deep-seated desire for destruction and mayhem that Silco "discovered". Silco actively, intentionally reinforced her destructive capabilities through inventions to serve his idealistic needs. She wanted love so she felt obligated to do harm because that's how she got it.
Her terrorist phase under Silco is objectively terrible. If this was a real person in todays world, we would lock her up for life or just lethal inject her. But like everything in Arcane its more nuanced, and I don't think she truly enjoyed harming others.
@@junrobin9335 Absolutely agree. What she did is bad, but it's not because she's a bad person. We are more often than not the product of our environments and influences. It's why people say be careful who you're friends with.
SHE SAID THE LINES
Shes an enforcer like those that killed Jinx and Vi's parents so it's hypocritical for Cait to act like she's the only victim.
FR. Cait for me is my least favorite character.She got no consequences for what she did.And like Vi came back to her the minute she showed up.I love Vi but they did her dirty. I like the villains.My favorite characters are: Jinx,Viktor,ekko,and silco
Even after Vi told Cait that her parents were killed by enforcers, she still acts like her family WHO funded the enforcers are worth more than Vi and Jynx's parents. Cait and the rest of Piltover were the ones who ultimately escalated. Zaun was doing peaceful protests at the bridge, and Piltover killed them. So Zaun matched there acts.
She didn’t do it tho?
@cybercriminal3110 No, she didn't but still her kind did is the point.
@@DebTheDevastator Exactly 💯 Thank you that's what I'm saying.
Cait we can’t erase our mistakes a couple off episodes ago she almost shoots a child and blames vi for not wanting to where the enforcer outfit
I think she was talking for herself in that moment with Jinx too. She clearly feels regret and guilt. We've all been there.
ye she was also referring to herself
I know I was just mentioning
Then here comes the boombayah scene of Caitlyn and Vi.
Nooo they cut out the best part 😔🙏
0:11-0:14
*SESBIAN LEX*
È inaccettabile come siano andate le cose...
40:26 yo bro chill
Should Jinx have just accepted Vi's help?
Yes, but she felt she wasn't worth it. Her involvement in Vi's life has brought nothing but pain. She finally accepted she's a burden to others, especially Vi, and her best option is to erase herself.
@WickedHumor She also just lost Isha, too. The one last thing in Jinx's life that kept it from being over. Not to mention, she probably wouldn't be let off the hook that easy after killing the council among the other capital crimes she committed. She only hit rock bottom after losing Isha. Until Ekko came to change her mind.
@ True. Isha was just the last thread.
I still do not understand why Jinx got a redemption arc after all she has done...she murdered hundreds and didn't even had an ounce of guilt
She did have guilt.
Her insanity came about because of accidentally killing the majority of her family and being rejected by Vi, and then having Silko reinforce her mania. By the time she was fully on her own without her mania being embraced, she had already killed those people.
After she left that situation and the conflict with Caitlyn, she stepped back, wanting to disappear. The only reason she came back into focus was because Isha was taken.
This is why she attempted suicide. She recognized the harm she did and didn't see another possible future other than causing more pain and losing more people. That's why Ekko was able to convince her, because he saw another version of her better than the original which gave her the motivation to be better.
She recognized herself in the story and is a pretty self-aware character when looking at her dialogue.
She also didn't redeem herself to anyone except maybe Ekko. Caitlyn had already let go of her anger. We dont know the reaction from the people of Piltover other than being grateful from her help coming in the finale.
These characters are nuanced and very few can be considered not a shade of gray.
Nah@@scitimas12
Since when did she had a redemption arc did i miss that part
@@darkkale8629 yeah he's 100 percent right she became the hero of the with fact as well.
@darkkale8629 bruh just responded with a "nah"
Why didn’t you go after your sister bro. She’s freaking dying like no one in their right mind would do anything other than chase her down. I was so annoyed at the writers or whoever let this happen. You can smooch your girlfriend LATER your sister is DYING
It's pretty clear Vi didn't think this was the case. She didn't realize how done Jinx was. We see her mental state as viewers, but Vi doesn't see her talking to Silco or Caitlyn in her cell.
Worst cut-off of all time :(
This season was horrible man, didn’t even feel like I was watching the actual characters, it was more like bad fanfiction.
I don't mean to cause trouble, but may I ask why so? Feel free to express why you don't enjoy it. I'm curious.
It wasn't that bad dudw
@@captainroyalty904 Hey man totally cool, I just noticed a huge shift from Season one’s story telling and Season Two. Characters had development that happened at the speed of light like Jinx for example, There was no real consequences to anything (Vander/Caitlyn and Vi) and the writing just felt, bad at times. To me personally it lacked the emotional depth that the first season gave where characters were being fleshed out properly, they completely ruined Jinx in my opinion and Caitlyn switched teams immediately after seeing Vi for like one second which is pretty stupid imo. I could probably write this better if I rewatched it, because lmao that shit made me mad asf. So if I ever do a rewatch I’ll probably make a video on my issues with it! Those are all just my thoughts though on it. Everyone can have a different opinion.
@@ani-ma-tion5326 I see, thank you for your time and thoughts and opinions. I can agree that season 2 feels quite... Off, shifted as you mentioned. And the characters themselves have certainly developed and changed in an unprecedented way. I still found the show entertaining, but indeed there are many flaws and changes made that few can't be simply overlooked.
Again thank you for your time. Have a good day.
God I love a respectful exchange like that. Y'all made my day.