7.3 PowerStroke -19ºF Cold Start Attempt
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- -19 F cold start attempt without the block heater on a 2000 7.3. Arrived at the hotel late, and could not get a cord from maintenance to plug it in. After many minutes of trying, we got a cord and plugged it in while we were at the dirt bike ice race throughout the day. Batteries or starter never died, which was impressive.
That starter just went though about a years worth of starts.
Robert Brunner starters are cheap
HERPY DERPEDY um they are not.
Fizzi about 120 bucks a pop. My shitty car quest starter starts fast and has been through so much hard start abuse lol
Keep in mind it’s also very cold out
@@bryanmartinez6600 shouldve had the heater in, in the first place🤦🏻♂️
Daaaaam man. They must be giving starters away nowadays. Im genuinely impressed it lasted through that situation
All I got to say is that those batteries definitely lasted longer than mine ever could 😅
what kind of battery is in that son of a bitch
+Carolina Crustang. (Carolina Crustang) 7.3 uses 2 batteries
+VK70001.P jut the same it cranks a good long time.
+Dan Carlin yea but good batteries should have close to 1500 amp hrs
+VK70001.P 1500? Thats a lot of amp hours. Good batteries should have 1500 cranking amps though.
+Citroable that's what i meant it was a brain fart moment ha ha ha ha
to all the people saying hes over cranking the starter, just want to point out all the cuts in the video and the fact it was -19F. the starter will have time to cool down. most of the stress was on the battery and engine (starting rpm is usually too low to pump oil for lubrication)
when its that cold, its always a good idea to plug in the block heater, also make sure all your glow plugs are working.
I want to know what batteries were in that thing?
No kidding!!!
Don't we all and have mercy that is a tough starter as well
Probably a DieHard...
I was thinking the same thing lol
Right?????!!! I was thinking this after the first minute of the video. Holy shit.
He's got a loss of compression on at least one cylinder, meaning the engine's done regardless. You can hear tell by how the starter speeds up then slows down again. Means that piston ring's dead, also explains all the black smoke. Low temps or not, the engine's cooked. Sadly, very common with these. So really, the low temps had very little to do with why this truck didn't start.
+Vercus100 Was thinking the same thing.
Could also just be a only a couple good glow plugs
Haha yeah that thing is toast. I'm sure the rings in that cylinder have been through the shredder and the connecting rods, bearings and pistons are burnt to hell. Also would put money on it that the oil in the top end is thick as mud and he injectors are sickly and probably the glow plugs don't have correct ohm reading.
+Vercus100 isnt common if you keep on top of the maintenance properly.
It could be that 1 cylinder has a better glow plug then the rest. So one will fire and the rest will not
all I can think of is this is like every horror movie I've ever saw where the killer is trying to get them and they are feverishly trying to start the car. just needed a shot of the driver frantically pumping the shit out of the gas pedal. LOL!
That´s some impressive battery and starter capacity.
Diesel has two batteries. So he's using one battery.
Nolan Alvarino No, these trucks have two batteries because the starter has be large enough to compress to the air to twice that of a gasoline engine.
Aluminum, the 2 batteries are wired in parallel, meaning they both work together at 12 volts nominal.
This was a little painfull to watch. But holy shit those batteries are insane :D
tech tip: use a block heater
and spend a shit ton on electricity
@@mikeroberge8928 As opposed to the cost-free wear and tear on your engine. Ok
Do you see where he is?
Read the description
With THAT MUCH cranking, the cylinder temps (on a healthy engine) would have been well in to the temperature that is needed to ignite diesel.. With no preheat system, and good compression.. it should have started after that much cranking. Furthermore the flame front of the ether should have fired the diesel injection off no problem..
This engine has way bigger problems than this video lets you believe. I would bet (that before the generous application of Ether) that this thing is deathly low on compression..
8v-of-fury agreed
Frozen fuel
its because of the high pressure oil pump injection setup if the oil is thick and cold it cant trip the sensor and open the injectors
when dose a 7.3 not have issues.
My obs 7.3l has treated me alright in the cold, 0 out unplugged with glow plugs for 20-30 seconds and she fires right off. I do of course make sure to give it some anti gel just to be sure but yeah. Let it idle for a minute to get the oil circulating then hit up that fast idle for a few and take off down my hill at a generous rpm.
man plug the truck in.
Damn, what kind of batteries were in that thing?
Every diesel owner should watch this video. Too bad you guys couldn't get it plugged in earlier. I feel bad for the main bearings, but I'm sure that the engine was fine.
its trying so hard to start. i feel you man, i feel you
And your glow plugs ?
Are they working here ?
Next time if you want to start it quicker use a hair dryer in the airbox : )
michaelovitch or just spray break cleaner to help start it. Works 5 times better and does no harm to the motor
Matt Law Brake cleaner is a form of degreaser that seems like a bad idea to spray inside an engine that you want lubricated
@@DerrikNikkelStudios well gasoline degreasers too, so I don't see the problem
Glow plugs wouldn't help this engine. That truck obviously has low compression
@@budphillips9301
obviously,i don't know,at least they seem all equal in compression,there is no miss or irregularities while cranking.
It was like watching a diesel locomotive starting up...
Geez, the battery nor the starter died after all the cracking!!!!
that is one good starter and even better batteries
That's one good battery
Goofygiggles must be an Optima but remember they have dual batteries
Correction: those are two good batteries
takes 2 BIG batteries to crank 7.3--I have replaced several in 10 years I have mine
Funny thing is my 7.3 would fire right up in -20 weather
Probably because you're not an idiot and the guy that owned this one was
That's why they have block heaters my friend
@@wyatttipton9957 Its funny that most people don't realize the 7.3 has oil fired injectors... If the engine oil is gelled up solid, no way in hell is it going to open the injectors. lol ( KATT magnetic oil pan heater, is a 7.3 owners best friend )
If you're injectors are good a 7.3 will start on a dime every time without glow plugs.
5w40 synthetic helps too
Your glow plugs are beyond shot!
I’ve fought many winter wars with the 7.3s and there is nothing that sounds angrier than a powerstroke cold started at -10 or less. That’s what block heaters are for boys, plug them poor dinosaurs in 👍
Get a cord from maintenance? What- no room in that truck to store one?
that engine will be gone soon if you keep spraying ether in it
Yeah I cringe every time I see people doing that shit.
Kody Kill put a gas soaked rag over your air cleaner, and, plug it in for sure!
Barry The Chopper I Feel the same way!! :/
I guess they like the after market melted piston style
Kody Kill Not mixing with the glow plugs so there’s a very low chance of preignition before the cylinder. Plus I’m pretty sure that’s what made it act like this to begin with.
Somehow I get the feeling he'll be plugging that in from now on... If you was really in a pinch you could build a little fire under the engine, you know put a few hot coals under there, then block the wind with cardboard or something. Had a car one time that was hard to start, of coarse it was gasoline so it's problems differed. The old plugs fouled out under a new oil change, and the battery wasn't all that good, it was -25F out. Ended up changing the plugs and setting hot wood coals under it to warm the engine while charging the battery. A few hours later and it cranked right up.
Hahaha, Pidgeon, Phil and I still pull this one up and watch it once in a while for a laugh.
This engine has seen much better days. Cold start or not, I think the motor is done.
+mustang10141980 It's not done at all. Mine has 350k miles on it, 94 and it's been starting like that in the cold for years. Still runs fine. We hardly ever get below 30F so I don't see issues with starting.
Y10Q oh for sure. I know the body will rot around the engine on mine. Navistar made a damn good engine when they built the 7.3
dam good starter
routine maintenance is number 1 in keeping a healthy engine starting in cold weather.
Sorry, but you're wrong. At work, we have 10 Ford 7.3 1 tons, and 2, 6.7 Dodge 1 tons. We plug the block heaters in along our building, but, someone forgot to turn on the panel. -30 celcius, and the only 2 that fired up were the Dodges. All the Fords sounded exactly like this one....only our batteries didn't last as long as those! (Hot damn, those are good batt's!) I own a Dodge 6.7, and plugged it in once this winter, and over half the winter, it was -20 C and below. Fired like a champ!!
poor starter took 1 for the team on that one. lol
in minus weather give the plugs about 20 to 30 seconds to get hot enough to ignite the fuel.
+Jim Trotter done before on my diesel mower that glow plug helps alot
Well, I'll say one thing....that's one hell of a testament to Ford's starters!
Never heard a 7.3L sound like this. Never seen the dark smoke like that either, I always get white smoke. I think this start was indeed harder than mine, lol :) Judging by the pop backs I heard and the massive amounts of fuel she was injecting, I'd have to say the IPR was hanging closed. But I don't know, only way to know would have been to hook it up and look at what the PCM was commanding.
I wouldn't mind having that battery.
Maybe keep it on the block heater at night when it is that cold?. Just sayin.
makes me feel better about how hard my 7.3 starts
Come on baby, pump it pump it, come on come on, pump that pedal, pump it. OMG love the cranking of this truck.
When you think its a compilation buts its just a single truck "starting"
impressive batteries thats for sure
What kind of batteries were those? And how many amps, very impressive life! Aftermarket starter?
Damn how many starters did you use for this video?
everybody hatin on old powerstrokes better than a chevy or a dodge
+Travis Vandling, You're going to worship this pile of shit even after having the video evidence above? Go pick up a stock 6.0 and leave it stock, report back 1 year! lol
Whatever pussy dodge gm driver
My dodge Cummins would have been running by now alway starts good
No thank you. Had a Pontiac g6, and always started cold on the first try that was even colder then this.
you wish
should have saved the wear and tear on the truck and plugged it in
That is some serious cranking durability! Not to mention the batteries, how did they last so long??
1 word Lucky
I have a Minnkotta dual head battery maintainer mounted on mine. It's plugged in before the block heater and works great
maybe you have bad muffler bearings?
+Illyrian4life LOL, bad glow plugs in his batteries.
+Patrick TheBaptist well i would just beat on the starter with a left handed hammer. lol
Illyrian4life
Hahaha. I've felt like doing that and hitting myself in the head with it while I was at it... LOL.
+Patrick TheBaptist lol
cmon guys he needs to change his spark plugs get it right lol
Why would anybody post something like this for the whole world to see? It's like saying, "hey world, look! I'm a shit for brains!!"
The batteries the real mvp here
Poor Powerstroke. It can't help it, it was born that way.
Seriously the Powerstrokes must have all glow plugs working properly to start easily in cold weather, my 98 Dodge with the 12Valve Cummins starts after a few seconds of cranking even without preheating, superior engineering resulted in a superior engine. It also helps that the Cummins has been around for years.
Wrong, Cummins was producing and selling (through Sears and Roebuck) a licensed version of a HVID stationary diesel engine (Cummins Model F) in the 1920s and installed one in a 1926 Packard. Cummins might not be as old as International but International wasnt selling their own diesels until 1932.
www.trucktrend.com/features/163-1212-history-of-cummins/
Both companies build excellent Diesels but he Cummins B series is a Medium Duty Diesel while the Powerstroks and Duramaxes are both classified as Light Duty Diesels.
Cummins never let you down
well proven engines. especially the the 6bt.
no more either please!
Is it the injectors or the engine itself making the chattering type sound. I notice this on all cold starts just wondering. Don't sound good but if they all do it.
I want to know what kind of batteries this thing has. It is really impressive!
Wtf the fuel is obviously gelled up there's nothing wrong with the truck
Fords keep mechanics wealthy!
Not so much as dodge with their loose front ends and bad transmissions what we have here is someone who doesn't know what a plug in block heater is
No they're not my friends duramax is always locking up on him and his truck only has 45,126 miles on it, and I don't like automatics in the first place, the ZF6 is the best transmission I've ever had, 200,000 miles and still going strong
On a big rig the only acceptable transmission is an Eaton fuller 18 speed, had one on my freightliner with a 650 tuned cat C-15 single turbo. Beast mode 24/7
lmao Because a Duramax or Cummins woulda fired right up. N the truck in this vid is a top notch Ford, right?
The 7.3 is Navistar's best engine. A 6.0 can be just as good if the EGR delete is performed as for Cummins and duramax they too should be plugged in in seriously low temperatures to keep them running good and there isn't such a drastic change in temperature between uses
Very impressed with the batteries I wish I knew what brand they were
this is why i got rid of my 7.3, i worked out in wyoming and north dakota alot and it didn't like starting at temps under 20 degrees. anything in the negatives and the truck just wouldn't start. my 05 5.9 cummins starts in -30 weather after sitting for a couple weeks.
SHould have just plugged it in in the first place!
Read the desc.
5:45. Should of done that the first time it wouldn't turn over not after the 428th try.
Haha so funny! 428 times later. I am rolling laughing!
"Hmmm. Spend over 2 hours trying to crank it then give up and plug it in for 4 hours and screw the Ford or plug it in right away and wait 4 hours. I'll just go with the "smartest" option. OPTION 1!" Well folks say hello to this winter's dumbest Ford owner!
Lmao
This lady's and gentlemen is why they invented block, oil, and air heaters for engines. So you don't trash your starting system. Also wouldn't surprise me if the fuel started to gel. Because at -10 is when diesel begins to wax (correct me if I'm wrong on my temps). Your hard on your fuel pumps and starting systems. If your 0*F and below use your heaters and plug it in.
"best diesel ever" "real trucks run diesel"
what a powerjoke.
You mean powerchoke
Buuuttttt still beats precummins
mightaymouse doubt that
+Future Gohan Stomps any Duracrap but out doing Cummins is unlikely.
truck was not taken care of. When thy are they will start
this pretty much sums up my powerstroke owning experience - and why I will never buy one ever again.
This is why u plug a diesel in when the weather is cold.. Aka block heaters also help
I've never seen a 7.3 start this bad. That was pure garbage...
+Bailey Hill Agreed, there's more than low temps at play here. That engine's completely destroyed. Even when it did run it sounded like marbles in a blender. I'd toss the engine and replace it.
A mechanic told me if your having cold start problems it's because your injectors aren't working properly
I can't stop laughing that 1-2-cah3-1-2-cah3 hahaha
As much as I love 7.3s the right idiot can fuck anything up including a 7.3 and I think that this was the case of this one-time beauty's demise
+Bailey Hill they should have cycled the glow plugs a 2nd time my 97 powerstroke would start cold in -40 but it did take 30 min to warm up enough to drive without gelling
No matter how much power a diesel makes, this is the reason most people still have gas engines in their vehicles.
+reints74 gas or diesel cold weather makes it hard for an engine to start
Cross Durazo Sure does.
A well maintained diesel starts about as good as a gas job. Usually when you start seeing diesels not starting, it's from lack of maintenance
FCFordLord I believe you're right. I know this truck is in need of serious maintenance & the majority can't be like this, or nobody would own one.
+reints74 true and I kept my diesel ford up to date running better than before a lot better starts in -20 like its 50 'f outside
I miss my old 7.3
Not trying to be rude, but was the truck maroon or green before it was wrecked if it was wrecked?
Did it even have a single glowplug? Lol
John assuming he uses ether every time he starts the thing like he did in the video, ya
I think I just wasted 6 mins if my life....hahahah
Cycle the glow plugs 2 or 3 times before trying to start, started my 97 7.3 that way several times at -5 deg...started right up...
guess the glow plugs or the glow central are defect on this one...
yup i have to do the same thing with my 97, glow plugs finally went bad at 231k
If all the glow plugs systems are working they will start down to 0 deg farenheit been there done that....
Sounds like a theme to Star Wars.
more like powerchoke
Alegabi1 go home
chase gibbins go home
At least im not drunk enough to realize ford sucks Perfect example: This video
Alegabi1 well when a truck is ragged out of course its gonna be a turd. its all in how you take care of your shit.
Yeah no shit.
it's a Ford what do you expect
+Dylan Aarhus you can't beat a 7.3
Meade Mathis want to bet Cummings is a way to go if your smart
+Dylan Aarhus you mean cummins?
+Alec Glass yeah that's what I meant
Dylan Aarhus i think your both mistaken. What your trying to say is Mercedes-Benz
what batteries are you running lol those things took a beating
How did you get that much cranking power? Did you start the camera after removing the battery charger or something?
Typical ford
Grabs popcorn
We might be here awhile
7 months and still nothing... I'm impressed
mightaymouse Same
Chickenhunter22 hater....they all do this if it's cold enough
Typical Chevy idiot
Holy shit bro, that is a seriously hard core start . my truck has had something like this before as well. I'm really surprised you didn't kill the batteries, mine would have died after the 4-5th attempt. from what I'm seeing thats not normal? Also, its hard to understand its all from cold though. Especially with how many times the pistons rubbed up on the cylinder wall while cranking and the few times the cold start fired her up a little.. LoL And that HARD Knock When it does start. Mad Brings Up Memories ...
Like i said, my truck used to do this as well. If it was below 50f I Had to plug her in, not normal for sure. But at -10f this is picture perfect for what was happening.
FIX FOR MY 2000 F350 XLT 7.3L:
New Glow Plugs All Around (they were burnt up about an inch from all the cold start)
New Glow Plug Relay (for good measure)
Fuel Injector Packs (heat from the cold start Fried The O-Rings On The Injectors)
New Batteries (Because I Bet the fuck out of them like you did here lol And they were 2 years old)
Now: I no longer have to plug her in until it gets to close to 0F, She starts Every time with a single or sometimes a second key cycle for the plugs. And the starter spins a lot nicer now.
Very nice video bro, the ability to see someone who has a truck as sick as mine used to be makes me feel better about my truck lol. Im not the only one who's truck had issues in the cold. lol
My brothers 7.3 use to do the same thing. If i got colder than 40 (which was everyday after august) his would HAVE to be plugged in hours before you wanted to run it. Just a pain in the ass.
Great truck. Not so great at cold cranking
did you even try to take a screw driver and jump the glow plug relay? i bet the relay just took a crap so the glow plugs werent even running.
I'd like to know how many hours this actually took 😂
in -20 degrees my 1991 Volvo 740 would fire right up.
That's because it's a gas burner..
I have a great idea! Why not get some new glow plugs, a glow plug relay and don't forget to plug in the truck during sub-zero temps! Then you wont burn out your starter trying to start this beast. Its painful watching people treat these trucks like this!
That starter is a trooper
oh hell yeah. the man is my hero!
I have a 7.3 as well. It starts great. New batteries and alternator helped, but there is a little yellow valve that drains the water behind the engine cover. You need to drain the water out at every oil change at least, if not more often. You will be surprised how much water that 38 gallon tank can collect!
It helps to plug it in when is cold
that's a nice truck what size tires are those? Stock lift right?
jmpidgeo what kind of batteries are you using? Whatever youve got they seem to holdup pretty well!
Does this thing have any kind of a aftermarket tune? Could be making tougher to start in cold weather than it needs to be
rest in peace starter
im just impressed that the starter didnt die.
i'm with the other guy,what kind of batterys are you buying,i want some,see the black smoke and then it turns white to blue,some of your glow plugs or all of them are seriously lame,be glad it's cold or you would be buying a starter too
In this situation here in Canadian winter, full throttle help a lot the engine to sustain enough momentum during the first 20 sec. As you can see in the video (3:26) each time he gave full throttle the engine was starting better but he released too early his foot. I had to do this several time (1997 7.3 PSD E350) because power line malfunction... Succeed each time with full throttle WITH good, healthy and full charged battery !!!
2:20 all I could think of was that song from Star Wars Episode I called Duel of Fates
My 97’ powestroke starts almost right away in the winters in Minnesota and most nights I don’t plug it in it can get to -30 where I live