This was NOT agood fight. He said he had to give more space to avoid a crash. He even said if there was a crash it was the other guys fault. You are learning the wrong lesson. The lesson is "save your race even if you lose a place" not "this is how I lost a place in a fair fight"
True but GT7 has controller users as well so I've come to expect some shoddy driving just due to the lack of fine control that controller driving gives you
@@g00ndoo Just depends on the play, I use controller and always give space, however I will give space and then the next corner that same guy will just run me off the road, happens so often lol
@g00ndoo you can have plenty of control on a controller. It all comes down to practice and the quality/knowledge of the driver. I've had loads of quality fights on controller when I don't wanna setup the wheel.
that overtake was not art if it was art he would of not of overshot the corner, he only survived because the blue car actually wants to survive and finish the race.
No art here, the goal is the podium and points. In a real race he needs to defend his position and place. His analysis was wrong and it shows by him losing his place and making it easy for his opponent. It's harder for him to regain his place now as his opponent gained 1 mph.
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Great and safe driving of you to give him space and fight back the next lap. I did the same thing during a race, but when i tried to take him back(with closer distance), i got turned into eventhough i held the inside line way before the corner entry.
Should have over under on first corner. Slow way down turn in way late and exit early and fast. Gets easy when you practice alot. Oval racing helps alot with practice for over under defending
I think the straight after the turn is too short to get a full overtake on the next corner. Plus the right hand turn is uphill so the inside entry will get a lot of grip right around the apex. Either way, blue did the right thing staying wide on a lunge. Decisions get made fast and early, he was already too committed to staying wide.
Mind explaining further? So hard brakes on the outside turn in and full throttle on the straight exit? I’m new, don’t understand much but very eager to learn. Please give correct answers 🙏
@@kingstey9151 It would have been the wrong decision, because this isn't an oval. The over-under would put him on the outside for the next corner with it all to do.
False. You clearly have never been behind the wheel of a race car in your life. Nice try. You may fool these simpletons ,, but not I. I will not be made a fool by some person on the internet pretending like you know what you're talking about. Pathetic.
Hey mate, I watch a lot of these types of videos and you are the only one that does it without ego. Giving props to another racer is a class act. Nice work.
As the green driver i would have done exact the same, push you a bit wide, dont lose that much speed and stay ahead to being dominant at the exit to switch line already for the next corner.
Thank you for this. There’s a lot of people in the DNFs that were “right”. Just because they aren’t real cars worth real money doesn’t excuse bad driving.
Man, I really would like to play with you one day. I’m just the same kind of racing drive like you. All the videos of how to take curves, sportsmanship, force others to make mistakes without contact, just playing with their mind, etc, it’s what I always do and observe. Would be lovely play one day together
If you did make contact i wouldn't say it is entirely on him. He made an early apex and kept a consistent and predictable turn rate not opening the steering much during the turn
Eirly brake, let of brakes closer to the corner Turn later carrying speed or throttle braking as I'd know it as missing the apex but on white line next to it able to see the straight more sooner for max acceleration and grip coming out of the corner
whenever i get wheel to wheel with randoms,i let them make a mistake if they are agressive because i dont trust them,there are ppl that are always right in their head and they can take me out the second i match their aggression
Turn three might have gone in your favor if you had been willing to get your elbows out a bit more and take the widest angle you could without edging him off the track. Even without any contact there was way more real estate to your right than you used. Your line into that corner was unnecessarily narrow, but it’s a pretty good drive around the outside to complete the move.
I've been called cliche for saying this, but I'll keep saying it until people understand. In order to finish first, you first have to finish. There's no point banging your car up and having to retire because of it just because "the other car shouldn't have been there". Unfortunately it was there, race your car, if someone is doing dirty dives and missing the apexs, let them, chances are they'll end up wrecking themselves or meet another player who doesn't care about finishing.
Should've been more agressive on that inside line into turn 3... you obviously need to leave him room but it just seems you're afraid to push him a little bit wide mid corner to make sure you have the better exit. You can see so clearly that he literally launces himself out of that corner. He takes the opertunity that you gave him after leaving so much space
Well, those cars are RWD, so if you accelerate the car will oversteer while cornering, but if in the 1st corner you braked a bit you could get the inside (beacuse you went from the outside) and clear the corner faster then him. (Btw i don't know any of this rules)
Clipping the Apex doesn't matter. It looked side by side at the apex, maybe fractionally the posters corner, although the pressure made him go wide, so doubt he was going to make the apex here either. Looks pretty legal. The track limits off turn 3 exit however not so much.
Unfortunately, a lot of comments here got the wrong message. This is not showing a "good" fight where the poster just lost a position fairly. This is showing it is not worth risking the whole race to keep a position even if the other guy was at fault, which he clearly was in this situation. Please dont take away from this that the other driver made a great move in the first corner. It was way too late, way too far from the apex, and totally misjudged.
Where in any racing rules does it say the overtaking car must hit the apex? It doesn't. This guy made the corner. He left racing room on the outside at the exit. He was alongside before they started to turn in. It's on the limit, yes, but it's a clean move.
@@RacingAntit's not a clean move. The lead car also only has to leave a car width. If the lead car pinched the apex here and only left 1 car width the green car would've washed out and wrecked them both. It's on the 2nd car to pass safely. Been watching too much drive to survive if you think this okay. And if you do this to me I am 100% taking us both out
His "great" overtake depended on your cooperation, other than that it could have been a bad move for both of you. There was no way he knew you were going to give him space. If you had kept to your line as you had the right, his overtake would not have been so great after all.
I can't do moves like that on GT7. You clearly see he drove off the track for a split second. I don't get clean race bonuses for that. And I hate not getting the bonus
What do you mean hes not close enought? Hes deffinitely was and if hes this cofident to make the move hes probably following you for a while plus its a short straight to a hairpin coner so he was'nt carrying that much speed to make him understeer to make the move
i genuinely wonder though, if this was a casual sunday i understand. but lets just say its the final lap to the biggest championship of your life. would you have still given that extra room? i just wonder about how a driver would feel/think in that situation.
Okay so dumb question maybe, but are you saying divebombs arent allowed? Youre going on about him not hitting "the" apex. But he does hit an apex, just not yours. Of course no one should be pushed off track, but you werent even pushed out halfway, and he made his move before you turned in. You both left space, as both should. If you had turned in, wouldnt it have been your fault if a crash happened?
@@Dyils As brilliant as Max is at holding the line when he is alone. He has shown that he is every bit as bad at staying on track when there is a car on the outside line with a driver in championship contention. Max basically did a 'Stroll vs Ric at Austin' in Brazil. But they all do. Same with Lewis at Silverstone and somewhat also Leclerc at Monza
He did study, that's why he knew even though he was ahead and could take the normal racing line and turn into a vanishing gap, some crazy player is gonna dive bomb him out of the race and say he moved under braking xD
I’m not the guy in this video but I also am watch out on acc this mustang don’t put down qualifying laps in races for no reason I only know all out anything else turns me into a accident hazard or mistake prone all out is my safe mode😭
The only reason he was succesful with that, is because you gave him way too much space, which is good for avoiding the crash, but I think it was too generous of you
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You don't see many people uploading content about them getting done in a good fight, wp
It shows confidence, that you can be beaten without people thinking less of you
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This was NOT agood fight. He said he had to give more space to avoid a crash. He even said if there was a crash it was the other guys fault. You are learning the wrong lesson. The lesson is "save your race even if you lose a place" not "this is how I lost a place in a fair fight"
SOOOOOO many GT7 streamers need to see this!!! Everyone acting like its their birth right to hold the line they want
Couldn't agree more like it's racing ffs
True but GT7 has controller users as well so I've come to expect some shoddy driving just due to the lack of fine control that controller driving gives you
@@g00ndoo the gyro controlls in gt7 😩
@@g00ndoo Just depends on the play, I use controller and always give space, however I will give space and then the next corner that same guy will just run me off the road, happens so often lol
@g00ndoo you can have plenty of control on a controller. It all comes down to practice and the quality/knowledge of the driver. I've had loads of quality fights on controller when I don't wanna setup the wheel.
The real rarity here is people actually racing at snetterton
LOVE snetterton
It's so fun though
That overtake was art. Precision braking, his abilty to maintain his car position, and knowledge of the track limit.... masterclass
He couldn't handle his line and was saved by the op being smart. He couldn't handle second overtake well enough to not leave the track.
that overtake was not art if it was art he would of not of overshot the corner, he only survived because the blue car actually wants to survive and finish the race.
No art here, the goal is the podium and points. In a real race he needs to defend his position and place. His analysis was wrong and it shows by him losing his place and making it easy for his opponent. It's harder for him to regain his place now as his opponent gained 1 mph.
this type of analysis is so cool i'd love to see more
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Great and safe driving of you to give him space and fight back the next lap. I did the same thing during a race, but when i tried to take him back(with closer distance), i got turned into eventhough i held the inside line way before the corner entry.
Should have over under on first corner. Slow way down turn in way late and exit early and fast. Gets easy when you practice alot. Oval racing helps alot with practice for over under defending
I think the straight after the turn is too short to get a full overtake on the next corner. Plus the right hand turn is uphill so the inside entry will get a lot of grip right around the apex.
Either way, blue did the right thing staying wide on a lunge. Decisions get made fast and early, he was already too committed to staying wide.
Mind explaining further? So hard brakes on the outside turn in and full throttle on the straight exit? I’m new, don’t understand much but very eager to learn. Please give correct answers 🙏
@@kingstey9151 It would have been the wrong decision, because this isn't an oval. The over-under would put him on the outside for the next corner with it all to do.
False. You clearly have never been behind the wheel of a race car in your life. Nice try. You may fool these simpletons ,, but not I. I will not be made a fool by some person on the internet pretending like you know what you're talking about. Pathetic.
Agreed 💯
Hey mate, I watch a lot of these types of videos and you are the only one that does it without ego. Giving props to another racer is a class act. Nice work.
A beautiful fight, and the overtaking was done cleanly, without incident.
i expected him to understeer at the hairpin but i was very pleasantly surprised
I thought he was gonna shank it and go waaaay deeper than he did there
@@kwabz9346 exactly what i was expecting. just a little but of an overdo followed by a switcharoo... ooor some rally driving.
As the green driver i would have done exact the same, push you a bit wide, dont lose that much speed and stay ahead to being dominant at the exit to switch line already for the next corner.
Love these types of content you're putting in.
finally a more realistic view...like others also know a few tricks....good manouvers are good manouvers
Thank you for this. There’s a lot of people in the DNFs that were “right”. Just because they aren’t real cars worth real money doesn’t excuse bad driving.
I love these analysis moves. Feels like a school for racing
Man, I really would like to play with you one day. I’m just the same kind of racing drive like you. All the videos of how to take curves, sportsmanship, force others to make mistakes without contact, just playing with their mind, etc, it’s what I always do and observe. Would be lovely play one day together
Valtteri? Is that you?
If you did make contact i wouldn't say it is entirely on him. He made an early apex and kept a consistent and predictable turn rate not opening the steering much during the turn
Very clean and confident driving, you don't get that a lot of the time 🔥
Eirly brake, let of brakes closer to the corner Turn later carrying speed or throttle braking as I'd know it as missing the apex but on white line next to it able to see the straight more sooner for max acceleration and grip coming out of the corner
Some overtakes take a series of corners, and I find them beautiful than last ditch overtakes
You should add the full overtake clip after the analysis so we can see it for ourselves. Very informative content, you've earned a sub🫡
whenever i get wheel to wheel with randoms,i let them make a mistake if they are agressive because i dont trust them,there are ppl that are always right in their head and they can take me out the second i match their aggression
crazy how overtakes in gp2 and gp3 usually last for 304 corners while overtakes in f1 are like a single corner
Turn three might have gone in your favor if you had been willing to get your elbows out a bit more and take the widest angle you could without edging him off the track. Even without any contact there was way more real estate to your right than you used. Your line into that corner was unnecessarily narrow, but it’s a pretty good drive around the outside to complete the move.
This is something F1 2024 ai drivers should know. YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A SPACE
I've been called cliche for saying this, but I'll keep saying it until people understand.
In order to finish first, you first have to finish.
There's no point banging your car up and having to retire because of it just because "the other car shouldn't have been there". Unfortunately it was there, race your car, if someone is doing dirty dives and missing the apexs, let them, chances are they'll end up wrecking themselves or meet another player who doesn't care about finishing.
A dive but it was invited. It was a fair move imo. I would have positioned myself in the middle of the track heading in to the hairpin personally.
Need to be closer to him on entry to turn 3, thats what made you slow, but driving side by side is tough !
Nice clean maneuver.
Now thats drivin right there, impressive
subbed, great video!
If only all sim racing was like this…
Very interesting!
Should've been more agressive on that inside line into turn 3... you obviously need to leave him room but it just seems you're afraid to push him a little bit wide mid corner to make sure you have the better exit. You can see so clearly that he literally launces himself out of that corner. He takes the opertunity that you gave him after leaving so much space
Well, those cars are RWD, so if you accelerate the car will oversteer while cornering, but if in the 1st corner you braked a bit you could get the inside (beacuse you went from the outside) and clear the corner faster then him.
(Btw i don't know any of this rules)
Clipping the Apex doesn't matter. It looked side by side at the apex, maybe fractionally the posters corner, although the pressure made him go wide, so doubt he was going to make the apex here either. Looks pretty legal. The track limits off turn 3 exit however not so much.
Just one issue there: He got off road on the second turn where he overtook you. Him not giving back the position will give him a nice 15s penalty
what forza motorsports online lobby is this? never seen such clean racing
Show this to Max and Lando
Beautiful crisp
Most normal verstappen overtake on Hamilton (colorised)
Unfortunately, a lot of comments here got the wrong message. This is not showing a "good" fight where the poster just lost a position fairly. This is showing it is not worth risking the whole race to keep a position even if the other guy was at fault, which he clearly was in this situation. Please dont take away from this that the other driver made a great move in the first corner. It was way too late, way too far from the apex, and totally misjudged.
Where in any racing rules does it say the overtaking car must hit the apex? It doesn't. This guy made the corner. He left racing room on the outside at the exit. He was alongside before they started to turn in. It's on the limit, yes, but it's a clean move.
@@RacingAnt so according to you Hamilton did nothing wrong against Verstappen in Silverstone 2021?
@@RacingAntit's not a clean move. The lead car also only has to leave a car width. If the lead car pinched the apex here and only left 1 car width the green car would've washed out and wrecked them both. It's on the 2nd car to pass safely. Been watching too much drive to survive if you think this okay. And if you do this to me I am 100% taking us both out
@@MegaIronicahis logic is so twisted it's insane lol
@@austinwalters3219 logic has to exist first to be twisted 😅
Always say it take 2 great drivers to clean
We know this is why Senna was so dominant. His assertion was over the top.
He was prepared to have an accident
Pretty much why verstappen is on top rn, same type of mentality
Feels weird seeing an online racing clip at snett and even weirder with a matching carrera cup gb car's livery on the number 8 car
Max verstappen should see this video..
@@adhnanriyaz Max moved under braking. Green car didn't. This was a standard block pass. A good one.
To be fair, green car didn't full dive bombed it in that corner. It was an ok move.
im not a race expert but wouldnt a switchback on the turn be better?
self preservation 👏👏
Meanwhile on the first turn of the first lap in an assetto server gets you flying to mordor.
Good content❤
Why not move a bit outside, making a wider turn ar higher speed at 0:31?
SNETTERTON!!! I live near snetterton w track
Do you trail brake around turns? Or have you done all your braking before the turn?
Dude has a trail braking guide video on his channel. Take a guess ;)
@@noer0205 thanks
Bro was up against Danny Ric
You made a little zigzag to the end allowing him to go ahead, you should've pushed him in the grass I believe!
Can you plz try GT7
you brake for turn 3? i swear it’s just a quick lift for t3?
His "great" overtake depended on your cooperation, other than that it could have been a bad move for both of you. There was no way he knew you were going to give him space. If you had kept to your line as you had the right, his overtake would not have been so great after all.
I can't do moves like that on GT7. You clearly see he drove off the track for a split second. I don't get clean race bonuses for that. And I hate not getting the bonus
not matter you can do same next lap
Track limites say he should give the place back or at least take a warning or penaltie
How does the screen capture of this look so good?? My uploads are terrible quality in comparison
Is that brands hatch?
What do you mean hes not close enought? Hes deffinitely was and if hes this cofident to make the move hes probably following you for a while plus its a short straight to a hairpin coner so he was'nt carrying that much speed to make him understeer to make the move
Man was good
Which game is this?
i genuinely wonder though, if this was a casual sunday i understand. but lets just say its the final lap to the biggest championship of your life. would you have still given that extra room? i just wonder about how a driver would feel/think in that situation.
Definitely not, if that was the case then it would be 'to the death' 100%
@@dannyleeracing to the death it is💯😈💀
if you dont make the apex it doesnt matter at all, who cares about the apex? it doesnt matter
Game ?
Bro pulled an anime move
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The green car goes wide, so he need to give the position back, so he won't receive the penalty, Efayeyay told me.
Track limits are different to F1 hete
Track limits on exit?
Okay so dumb question maybe, but are you saying divebombs arent allowed?
Youre going on about him not hitting "the" apex. But he does hit an apex, just not yours.
Of course no one should be pushed off track, but you werent even pushed out halfway, and he made his move before you turned in.
You both left space, as both should. If you had turned in, wouldnt it have been your fault if a crash happened?
Textbook overtake
Snetterton, right?
“I’d rather live to fight another lap” said no Max Verstappen ever
It would be his fault if he couldn't hold the apex, unless his name is Max.
The one guy that almost always hits the apex? At least way more consistently than others? Nice example bro... Shows how clueless you are
@@Dyils you are the clueless one 😂
@@Dyils As brilliant as Max is at holding the line when he is alone. He has shown that he is every bit as bad at staying on track when there is a car on the outside line with a driver in championship contention. Max basically did a 'Stroll vs Ric at Austin' in Brazil. But they all do. Same with Lewis at Silverstone and somewhat also Leclerc at Monza
U mean Lewis huh?
@@taskfootball10 Imagine being confidently wrong lmao
didn't he technically overtook you outside the track lines ? which would make it ilegal move ?
Making the Apex? Nvm that, #8 couldn't keep all wheels on that corner; that's some bs passing.
He got that 3 extra km/h by going completly off track...
Exactly seems track limits don't exist
Green car should get punished for violating track limits.
You should study Max Verstappen IRL driving, that green car aint going nowhere
He did study, that's why he knew even though he was ahead and could take the normal racing line and turn into a vanishing gap, some crazy player is gonna dive bomb him out of the race and say he moved under braking xD
"TRACK LIMITS!!!!"
I’m not the guy in this video but I also am watch out on acc this mustang don’t put down qualifying laps in races for no reason I only know all out anything else turns me into a accident hazard or mistake prone all out is my safe mode😭
Max didn't get this memo. . . .
You lost the moment you fell for his bluff at turn one.
You were already under his ninjutsu
Speaking facts
What game is this?
iRacing.com
That dude!
Max and Lando?
This what Polyphony though how GT7 players would act playing online
bro just hit em. it’s just a bloody game
What’s this game
Just me or was that track limits out the 2nd corner?
You had to pressure him a little bit more
I'll take things Max Verstappen would never say or do for $1000 Alex...
Is that a game or real life i honestly can't tell
Lol me too
Can someone tag Max Verstappen? Lmfao
The only reason he was succesful with that, is because you gave him way too much space, which is good for avoiding the crash, but I think it was too generous of you