Why this DESTROYS the Apollo Twin, for $400 Less!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- The Apollo Twin is a fantastic interface... that costs WAY too much money considering what it actually does. Here's something that's $400 cheaper.
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I would definmitely check reviews of Antelope's customer service before buying ANYTHING from them.
and shady business practices
Antelope tried to rip me off with an offer for a free modeling mic with purchase that they never intended on providing. Never again. There's a reason Romania isn't known for its honest business practices.
they are a scamming company whit good converters but poor drivers and firmware which means you cant work seriously mix and mastering whit out bugs latency and sync problems that disconnect the device from your computer whit no reason has for afx 2daw its pure scam that brings more latency to the game and in plus they have the native versions of the same plugins and wont give it to the afx2daw users that have been victims on the scam the only thing ok are the mic preamps
+1 to everyone mentioning Antelope’s awful, almost non-existent support. Say what you want about UA’s pricing, but both their quality control and support are unparalleled.
Antelope aftersale is non existent. If you have an issue, they will tell you to downgrade firmware and move on. If it doesn't work. They will tell you to downgrade even more.
AFX2DAW is completely non functioning for WIndows users in most cases despite them charging 299 for it.
On the ZenQ, there is an issue where most compressor plugins will stop working after a few moments and sometimes it produces a loud beep when the plugins fail as well.
Still hasn't been fixed after more than a year.
The hardware might be solid. But the software and the aftersales is anything but.
Also don't confuse the realtime AFX which runs on the DSP with the regular AFX plugins which don't run on the DSP and you don't need any special interface for.
When you buy one, you don't get the other.
It's 1 thing to say you agree with others saying that their support is "terrible" but you don't give any examples
I'm sure just like any business charging out the behind for audio products (that are not expensive to make) there is some "shadyness" but at least stat your experience (albeit one sided) so I can judge based on that rather than, Source; trust me bro
@@Notinserviceij Not sure why my original reply was removed (or maybe it's just me who can't see it anymore?) but I can give you examples if you want. Coming from someone who generally loves their hardware but still wouldn't promote it to anyone.
- All their firmware 'fixes' when you have an issue with firmware of an interface are (in order): downgrade firmware, reinstall firmware, reinstall downgraded firmware, reinstall your computer OS (even tho it's a hardware firmware issue), send device for repair but get the same device back but with firmware upgraded firmware which they told you to downgrade. After that, it's your fault or you get ghosted.
-Their AFX2DAW on their USB interfaces are advertised to work and you are able to buy a license for it. But it will barely work. As in, mostly the software crashes the interface the moment you load the VST.
-There are a lot of issues with their AFX plugins for years now and they haven't been fixed or even updated and most of it gets ignored.
And this isn't just me. You'll find a lot of people having give up on their interfaces. Especially those who bought it specifically for the DSP processing.
I still run Antelope because their routing is fantastically deep and complicated and they do sound good.
But people have to know what they are getting into.
@@NotinserviceijIt takes 10 seconds to hit google and find another 100 reviews talking about their bricked, disconnecting Antelope devices. You won’t find sources because links aren’t allowed in these comments.
@@Notinserviceij Or you could get over yourself, and just ask about the specific incident, lol.
Can't take you seriously anymore. Antelope is the worst company in the music industry.
Antelope has the worst customer service ever. Stay away
They absolutely have a reputation. Sweetwater even stopped selling them, it was so bad.
If the product is great, you should never have to contact customer service and find out how good or bad it is. Companies with great customer service might need it. If Antelope products are problematic and they don't have good customer service, then that's a huge issue.
@MichaelSheaAudio that's the problem the products don't always work. I own a zen studio plus and they took it off they're supported devices after 16 months. They don't even stand by the products they make
Can confirm. Awful quality control, awful drivers, awful firmware updates.
@@joehernandez2021 A 16 month lifespan is criminal.
Yeah these are great when they work. But. Everyone I know who has one tells me they only work about 75% of the time at best.
Where is the paid promotion notice?
Doh!!! Forgot to check that off. Fixed! Thanks for the heads up!
@@SpectreSoundStudios 🤨🤨📸💥
Having to warn people about paid promotion has never bothered me, and I never understood why it should be anyone's problem. . This video was perfect .
@@miguelluigisantoslopes1528 thanks for the random input, but if you're doing paid promotion, you declare it's paid promotion. It's kind legally binding, y'know?
@@miguelluigisantoslopes1528 Because some people are not honest, and when a person might have a monetary reason to not want to disparage a product, the consumer might want to be aware of that fact.
Sturdy tv tray appears stronger than that old folding table 😂
I usually stick with Audient cause of their top quality pre-amp or RME of course, but this looks interesting nevertheless. Thanks for the video Glenn!
I'd stick with Audient as well. It's tried and true. Then rme is amazing with their drivers.
In a world where the RME Babyface exists, it’s hard to justify literally anything else in the sub-$1k market
Recently downscaled to a Audient iD14 MKII since I don’t need much when the bigger studio/live rack isn’t turned on.
Even the cheap Audient interfaces deliever.
@@JoeBaermann They upped the specs on the MKII stuff, converters, SNR etc, they do a great job.
RME is just made for a very long term. Everyone who has RME stuff loves RME. They still have stuff from 2010 or whatever and are still happy, including low latencies and phenomenal drivers still being updated for the old hardware.
I will speak an owner of an Antelope ZenQ TB working on PC
The bad:
-It took them almost two years after they released the interface to release the Thunderbolt 4 driver. In this time I was using their interface as a door stopper.
-You need to download a third party software (free) to work with windows audio
-You need to be very tech savvy (nerd level required) and even then their products have a learning curve. These are not plug & play.
-Their plugins are good but no match to the UA plugins
The nice:
-They now have excellent customer support. I mean EXCELLENT. They always respond ASAP. They even fixed my interface for free when the cat stepped on the thunderbolt cable and broke the TB adapter 😛
-ZenQ sounds so much better than the Apollo intefaces. I am really happy that I chose it. These converters are real studio quality.
-Their plugins cost a lot less that UA plugins when they have them on sale which is almost always :) Some people don't like this practice calling it "shady". For me it's no biggie.
@@KPG76 what time zone are you in the customer service only responds at 4 am for me
@@joehernandez2021 UTC+2 or UTC +3 in daylight saving time.
Oh Damn
Customer support was great for me!
I will be the first to say it.
As usual, people only type to complain, not to compliment so it’s easier to find the odd complaint than good reviews.
I have used Antelope for over 10 years. First unit performed flawlessly the entire time. Not one issue. Ever.
I got a new Galaxy 32, it had a couple of faulty inputs. Reported it to customer support and had a brand new unit from the factory to my door (in New Zealand!) within 5 days. Best customer support I have ever experienced new unit is flawless and performance is incredible.
Drivers are rock solid.
Most of the complaints I see come from people running a PC and for many reasons they will always run into some kind of compatibility issues by virtue of what they are. Antelope and Apple are rock solid together.
Over the years 99% of customer complaints to ANY audio manufacturer have come from PC users, it’s not an exclusive Antelope issue.
I only ever used a Mac with the Zen Go I had that broke down. Sounds like you don’t have any actual data
@@JoeJoel haha how is not knowing about your 1 case mean I have no data? I didn’t claim that no apple user has ever had issues did I?! What a ridiculous statement.
All my audio gear runs on Macs exclusively so every unit became a brick not the Mac but the units they are rubbish as is their customer service. And that is not a bad review that is fact .
@@Telewest792No, it is not a fact. It is just your opinion. As is my opinion that the units I have personally used have been great and my personal experience with customer service has been top notch. I’m not claiming facts but my experience certainly means your ‘facts’ are inaccurate at best.
I know of many top engineers that use, and have used, Antelope for years. What fact of yours does that back up?
It is a fact because it happened to me twice within 2 months it is not my opinion it is my fact. I say good luck to all who have positive experiences but mine was factually a crap experience .and that is a fact.
I used an Antelope for 2 pain staking years. The software was very buggy. I would turn on the phantom power and then go to turn it off, but it would show that it's still active, and it was. Sometimes, the software wouldn't pull up. Freezing up was an issue, and a few other things. The plug-ins were great. The routing was very easy. When it worked, it really worked. Unfortunately, the support service was terrible. They would get back with me but never could solve one issue. Oftentimes, i would have to start at square one every time someone got back with me because it was a different person who had no idea about the issue tickets i would send in. I bought mine for around 1500 dollars, i think, and they would never consider me returning the product because it didn't meet the "return policy " ( if they really had one). My troubles started just about a week of my purchase. I really hope it's a different story now a day's. And yes, i ran it on an IMac.
S/PDIF: Connect a Helix or AxeFx3 digitally to the audio interface. Quite useful.
My AF3 is in and out of mine.
I connect my Kemper via SPDIF
I have a Helix LT. How can I connect to S/PDIF and what are the benefits?
Yep FM9 here been axe fx spdiffing since 2016 and wouldn’t ever change it. No spdif no purchase.
if it was 1986
YES GLENN
More interface reviews please 👏👏👏👏👏
It’s not a review it’s a paid advert
This thing sucks. If you want to do music seriously and/or seriously, you want a product that actually works and doesn't shit itself with driver issues etc. Not to mention non-existent customer service.
Wow this almost competes with the SSL12, just a hundred dollars more. The SSL is flawless however, great software and support.
Antelope Audio is a piece of crap. I’ve had my ZenQ for over three years. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. The tech support is terrible. I cannot rely on any of the DSP because they sound different every time. AFX2DAW doesn’t work either. If I had known this, I would have never bought it. I would not recommend their products to anyone.
I have Zen Go, but for no reason, it stopped working on my Windows system. It was such a headache getting Windows to recognize it again. I switched to a Mac Studio, and it's been flawless ever since.
I'd say try rolling back to a previous bundle. Oddly enough for my Zen Q, it was the Antelope Launcher that was bugged, but the device and driver was perfectly fine.
MBAudio Matrix is my aggregate device on Windows. ASIO4ALL does the same and is ancient. How long has it been since you sold your soul to the Capitalist Apple?
Uad build quality and customer service kills antelope.
Good luck saving that money.
I’d rather eat ramen for a month, 😂
"i haven't used 'spa-difs' since like 2000"😂🍻
Says the guy that bought a $100,000 console to sound almost the same as before.. this is just paid advertisement, this guy is a sellout
Antelope stuff is great but the customer service sucks
Their software is pretty terrible unfortunately
It might be that good, but as a first interface?? For six fucking hundred dollars? No way dude, if it's the first one get a cheaper one
Does it have built in DSP mixing for all the ADAT and SPDIF inputs?
Thats kind of a must so you dont have to monitor through the DAW with all the latency it gives
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would love to see you review a PreSonus interface for the same price or cheaper :) thx for great videos glenn 🤘
that's a nice little device! I'm using a SSL12 which is surprisingly almost the same, minus included plugins, plus two more mic inputs and switchable 4K pres that sound sweeeeeeet on bass guitar
weird how they ripped off the AMD ryzen logo, and call it Zen, as in the zen cores in AMDs CPUs
I love my Motu M4 and it only cost me $215 on sale.
The reason you buy units like these is because they will offload plugins to run on the device using dedicated processors, so it reduces cpu load on your computer. It made sense at the time, because it was the 2000's and early 2010s, and computers were maybe dual core, and much slower, for much of the time. and if you're spending that much to run plugins, why not build a nice interface as well?
M4 is only an interface, no offboard processing.
The thing I don't understand is why you would buy one today, when you get more bang for your buck spending that money on the PC and you can get more than enough processing power to handle every plugin you want to throw at things with cores to spare.
@@cthalupa6879 if you’ve already heavily invested in their ecosystem. But yeah, I’d buy that m4 over an apollo
I don’t think I’m going to watch this channel anymore.
I used zen go for two years, and changed it for Apollo solo, we just have no choice,antelope drivers just unable to work properly on Mac and it frustrates. Apollo has unison and tight outs but worse pres. twin x needs power.
I've owned two antelope interfaces... one on the middle of the 1grand mark and one at the 2 grand mark.
One died after a week of use, and the other one showed up dead.
It bums me out because I wanna love them.
Glenn, if you really want your audience to get the best bang for the buck, you should checkout and maybe do a video on the motu ultralite mk5
The beast audio interface!
maybe I am one of a few, but I have MANY ISSUES with AFX2DAW plugins of my Zen Go connected via USB to my Windows 11 PC (I7-12700, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD), my DAW is Cubase 12. Antelope support is very weak. For what concerns audio interface and its preamps (except AFX2DAW) I have nothing bad to report
yeah, its called the apollo solo....its like $499 and its exactly the same as the apollo twin..
Except for ? Twin =2 Solo =1
I only say this from experience. I had an earlier zen interface. It was cool. Until it bricked during a firmware update. I will say between their customer service and Sweetwater, I got it replaced.
But while waiting for the new one I got to reading and realized they don’t seem to support their interfaces for very long and are always coming out with a “newer better” one. I didn’t like that so I sold it and went back to metric halo. They are the only ones I know of still supporting their original interface (the 2882) that came out in like 2002.
And then recently another studio reviewer posted his experience with the contract he was asked to sign before even getting the gear. He didn’t say which company it was, but…. Yeah it’s pretty obvious who it was.
So I’m kind of surprised Glenn is doing this review.
Why Sweetwater stopped carrying the brand.
Either Glenn didn’t do any research or the $$$ made it worth it to him. haha
@@jonkuenningwow. Didn’t realize Sweetwater had quit carrying them. But I obviously wasn’t the only one having issues. Seems a shame. It was a good sounding box. But CS is more important than that.
Yeah. Sound quality and build quality were on par with UA. But that’s meaningless if the software doesn’t work and there’s no support in fixing it. Another stupid quirk (maybe this has changed) but you had to be connected to the internet at all times for it to work. Never understood why they didn’t have an offline registration like utilizing ilok or as UA does use the unit itself as a big ilok type device.
Sweetwater no longer carries Antelope products. That speaks volumes.
RME
Glenn great video, ive watched you for years and we share the same problem. Everyone says we are too loud lol.
I love all the advice you give, im actually going to ask a question. Im wanting to do some recording and composing. Im overwhelmed by all the gear and im just a dumb bass player lol. Im doing a home studio, i will be doing small recordings sessions but also want to do an entire band. Im struggling deciding on an interface. Im not looking at budget models because you get what you pay for. That being said ive recently gotten excited seeing the tascam model 24 mixer with built in recording. Whats your opinion on it for my uses and any other options you recommend. Im all ears.
Thanks for all the content and education, cant wait for more. 🎉
I wouldn’t go near Antelope after their treatment of me and many customers.
How would you rate this against an equivalent Focusrite interface?
Just came here to say the same! I would love to see a comparison between these and a scarlett 2i2 3rd gen
It would be great if we could get a blind test as well. That would help shut up some gear purists.
@@EXPLICITBG Can you provide a link to a blind test like you are recommending? I'd like to see how its all set up in an actual test environment. I'm thinking of doing some blind testing myself, but if its not set up right, it will be a waste of time.
@@AT-wl9yq I haven’t seen one properly done yet.
I saw it yesterday on Warren Huart's channel and I like this interface a lot Except that two inputs are on the front and two on the back What where they thinking cos this might be a showstopper for me. I have to think about this🤔
Glenn, I have a 2000 Marshall head and cabinet . The head stinks because we all know Marshall quit doing things right and 83 that being said I bought a katana GEN 300 W head which as our good friend would say can chug my problem is this I’m getting into the effects part of my amplifier in want to start recording, but I do not know all the abbreviations you use and you talk rather fast you have a show that just goes over a very simplistic set up for a guitar player to start recording thanks I love your show
As an Antelope owner I'm a bit mixed on it. It used to be a pain in the A$$ due to routing. Now, it works ok once you learn to navigate.
Honest thoughts on this unit: If you're going to be using amp sims and lots of sim stuff, get it. It's very useful. HOWEVER, if you're using real preamps, real amps and microphones, it's not worth it. I'd get a cheaper interface. Maybe even the new Presonus Quantum. Just my 2 cents!
i had other Soundcards,never regretted for buying Apollo.
I bought an Antelope interface two years ago, what a mess. Everything is "yeah we will fix it, maybe, later". Their plugs in are buggy, you have to restart your session each time. The Asio is totaly fu**** up. In a mix session, i restarted my interface ten times in less than 30 minutes. The customer service agrees to say that they don't understand why it doesn't work because ... because nothing, it just doesn't work.
A year ago i bought an UAD apollo and ... it works, it sounds good, yes it's not the same price, but for me, Antelope was a terrible experience.
The one month of the 'YT review campaign' is probably the only time these antelope interfaces will have stable drivers and software in their life cycle.
Couple things: $600 is still a shitton of money. I have a super basic Behringer UM2 interface that...works? I've been looking at upgrading to a Focusrite Scarlett, but I don't want to waste my money if there's no noticeable difference in terms of tone or headroom (the Behringer seems to handle my EMG 81/60 pickups just fine). I don't care about whatever software comes bundled with it, because it's gonna be fed right into Reaper with my own effects and other stuff.
Could we get a shootout between cheap interfaces (like my Behringer UM2) against some other popular interfaces? Thanks Glenn, and fuck you!
sorry man, but I thing you got something wrong...
in the old good times of cakewalk 9, I used to use 3 soundblaster 16 to get 6 channels (at that time, interfaces were way more expensive in Brazil) and I didn't had any problem...
Antelope are the worst ever customer service company and their products become bricks and they never fix them stay with the Apollo twin and the 4, hell all the universal audio stuff is solid and they work as advertised. So from personal experience of both i also say stay away from anything that is made by Antelope.
HONESTLY, the SOFTWARE s+cks and is sometimes really buggy. Support is mediocre.
The sound and latency is GREAT but I'm really thinking about selling the interface. I want something that is reliable.
Let me guess: The software is for Windows and MacOS only, and is required to use the device to it's full potential, standards be damned? Mine came with software too, of course not for Linux, but it's only a convenience, I still can control all of it's features via my DAW because it adheres to Audio transfer protocol standards, and whatever software that does audio can work with the standard, so then why even make devices that don't? BECAUSE THEY CAN CHARGE $300 FOR $40 WORTH OF HARDWARE, AND MAKE YOU BUY A WHOLE NEW ONE WHEN YOUR COMPUTER HARDWARE OR OS HAS S0ME MAJOR CHANGE THEY MAY NOT TAKE THE TIME TO UPGRADE THE SOFTWARE TO WORK WITH, SO PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE!
Yeah, f*ck that shit!
I bought an antelope interface when they went on sale a few months ago. Massive upgrade from my presonus interface. The only complaint I have…
The software is finicky.. sometimes you will go to track, and will get no sound. After some trial and error, it seems like the onboard plugins will just stop working. You’ll have to remove them from the signal chain and build the chain again. That seems to have fixed that issue, until it decides to do it again.
All in all, I’m very pleased with the purchase!
If you're gonna "compare" two things, maybe you should Actually Compare them.
You got the Price difference right.
The rest was just reading thier websites and holding a prop.
Actually ABing the two, you know with audio running through them, and comparing how they suit different workflows etc.....well that $400 difference for many may simply disappear....
(If you can afford this level of interface. If you can't, neither one is great bang-for-buck. The SSL2+ for example makes way more sense for a ton of people. )
I have a Zen q but the antelope launcher after v 2.5 crashes no matter what config I use very frustrating but the sound is amazing of course my issue is with their software,, mind you I'm a systems engineer and I just can't get v3 or 3.1.2 work on my system without it saying that the launcher has stopped working
I've had a great experience with Antelope interfaces and have always been able to resolve issues with their customer service or a simple update. Maybe I'm just lucky? I am a Mac user, so I think that helps. Personally, I would go with RME or a newer MOTU interface before UA. They are both fast, stable/reliable, and have good sound quality. I do like the UA plugins though. Excellent stuff! Interesting that a hardware company killed it on the software, while the hardware has serious shortcomings (listed below). Of course, if you are happy with your UA interface, then by all means keep using it!!
"The only problem is that it is $999." Honestly, If that was the only problem I would have stuck with the Apollo. They are certainly very stable and user friendly. But.....The UA interfaces are too slow to play guitar with native plugins. They don't have enough memory to mix full band tracks without buying more UA devices or using native plugins. The converters aren't nearly as good as Antelope, especially the DAC. There is no digital out in the Apollo, so you can't use a different DAC. The plugins are very expensive (I own most of them anyways haha). Maybe the newest high-end UA interfaces are better. I haven't had a reason to try those. At $999 for two preamps, I expect an interface to be competitive on all technical specs, not just 2 or 3.
Is it actually better or just cheaper and maybe even marginally worse? It's a huge difference in price. I would treat like being a quote from a contractor -- don't get the cheapest or the most expensive.
So, Glenn... what about us mere peasants who cannot afford such glorious hardware?
Any chance you could give this subject the Glenn Fricker treatment and get something like a big Behringer and maybe some other budget options coupled up with some Reaper plug-ins for maximum bang-for-buck?
Thanks for sharing your expertise once again mate, always appreciated 👍
Glenn, I have a 2000 Marshall head and cabinet . The head stinks because we all know Marshall quit doing things right and 83 that being said I bought a katana GEN 300 W head which as our good friend would say can chug my problem is this I’m getting into the effects part of my amplifier in want to start recording, but I do not know all the abbreviations you use and you talk rather fast you have a show that just goes over a very simplistic set up for a guitar player to start recording thanks I love your show also, what is the definition of headroom? In fact the definition of a lot of the terms you’re using would be a great help and to understanding the technical aspects of what you’re talking about and trying to do I feel like I have a treasure map and a shovel, but no compass.
Antelope are a joke....they make great hifi dacs but their customer care is non-existent....the Apollo was written off by reviewers..are they not Apple freindly only ?...sure i watched videos on YT ...i use a PreSonus 1810c,up to 18 inputs,including ADAT, Coaxial in & out & great for me midi in & out for keyboards, ,& 10 outputs,4 mics, 2 instrument inputs, 2 independent headphone outputs with there own headphone amp each...got it for £200, impressed at the quality...my only gripe you can only switch 48v phantom power on all channels so no mixed mics at the same time, i can work around that...great 3 colour real multi led display not a flashing green ring that tells you nothing...sounds painfull...the 1810c is fantastic, those iMax pre-amps are first class...used with BD DT-700 Pro X headphones(10 times superior than the old BD DT-770 Pro 80ohm)...good luck with the new interface..
Do you think a mic pre-amp before an interface will help ?...the ART Studio 3 mic & multi instrument pre-amp ?...or am i wasting money ?...cheers
behringer um2 25$ is fine for me... maybe focus on playing
The UAD unison mic pre amps are real good. I like UAD hardware.
i would not buy a zen tour because usb powered device are not loud enough. I had the zen tour rocking with a tube mic.
I like the antelope discrete 4 better (older model). I got a discrete 4 used for $599 at a sam ash in Queens NY. The Antelope discrete 4 have more flexibility than the apollo twin. It only takes up a half rack space with a stereo out plus 4 mono outputs which is 6 outputs plus you could used headphone outs 2, 3 and 4 for a total of 12 analog outs (headphone output 1 mirrors the main output). The antelope software allow you to use to the 3 headphone ports for individual outs. Then you got the spdif and adat outputs. I got a rme 2 channel converter on my spdif ports. I use the anatelope discrete 4 with a SSL Big SiX
and outboard gear.
If i want that much flexiblity with UAD i would have to spend $3,000 but with the antelope discrete 4 for $599 and im rocking.
Apollo x4 is eating all other interfaces for breakfast. Tone, features, value for money, and usability considering. Why would you rule over a twin?
Where's all the Behringer bashing bots to explain how renaming zen core to zen q, and using the same logo is ok? 😂😂😂
I just bought a UAD Volt 476P a few days ago because you did a review on the new volt a while ago.
The Apollo Twin is really only necessary if you want the native plugins from UA.
THis.
$599? ok try adding any serious plug in and boom its $1800.
Yes, but Antelope Customer service is rude at best... I have $3000 brick in the studio with an antelope logo on it. On the other hand, I ve had good customer service from UA, albeit late, but better late than never. And if budget is a question, I think the RME is best value for money.
Well, to be honest I've found this review... mean. With today's interfaces with DSP inside, the real cost are DSP plugin licenses, and you don't talk of them at all. I keep my old mentality: an audio interface should not contains DSP, I'll keep my cheap Audient interface and won't change for anything.
TOPPING E4X4 does it even better for half the money. Better headphone amps, more simple gui... Equal micpre's.
I have had an Antelope for a few years and while the hardware is spectacular, the software is finicky and support is terrible. On my previous OS it would cut out randomly about once and hour; it still often struggles when i ask it to change buffer size. Really, really annoying and pretty much unacceptable for gear that is marketed as pro-level. Hoping if we make enough noise, they will get their act together because, again, the hardware is top-notch
Why would anyone want to fiddle with onboard DSPs and dedicated plugins in 2024 is beyond me. Even a modest laptop nowadays can power all the extra heavy plugins you throw at it without even breaking a sweat. I use to drool over hardware accelerated plug ins too but that was almost 20 years ago when most PCs were slow. If you are on a budget just get a good sounding audio interface with solid drivers and some killer plug ins and you're set.
Yeah antelope is known to have many lemons, bad customer service, and worse quality “plugins”.
Don’t recommend! Poor quality control to say the least.
I do wish that uad would get a real routing matrix with easy multing, but the console is still great.
hardware great. software crap. customer service has always been there to help me with my orion 2017, but it's only a matter of time before my os will not be compatible with the software. even though they have up to date software for it, and i'm using the latest gen os and comp, they can only get the thing to work with a 5+ year old version of their panel and interface code. these issues, or similar had existed since 2017 when i bought it.
their stuff sounds amazing. when i went to antelope, it blew away everything i'd used before hand. i would likely not invest with them again due to the massive hassle i've had, and the studio down time that resulted.
Ive had 2 antelope interfaces and their customer support was fine, i hear horror stories but ive never had that happen to me. Great quality clocking and converters
I know the debate about pickups being expensive or cheap big or small etc but are there tones a single coil will make that a humbucker won't and vice versa? I don't really know much about the ins and outs of guitar workings, I buy all mine on the basis of shapes and colours really. Feel free to tear me a new one but I genuinely don't know and I suppose it won't haunt me if I never know, so fuck it if you don't want to answer don't bother 😂👍
Nice BUUUT with a $1000 dollars I can buy a 16 channel 96khz multitrack digital mixer like the Allen & Heath CQ-20B that can work flawlessly in a studio and in live settings. You should try a digital mixer for studio recording, at least a Midas MR18 or a Soundcraft UI24R, greetings from Colombia and fuck you Glenn
Antelope Audio have SERIOUS software issues, making their built in effects unusable
Dude this is not a good explain for audio Studio devices. Because price doesnt matter at all. I have the alesis io2 and the pre amps are oke, thats what you need to know.. If the pre amps are good and the rocord quality is good then you must be happy and record your music .
If you use vst amps then you got to look at the noise floor too and then you need a decent audio device .. thats why i use the Kemper or boss or blackstar.. blackstar has bad customer service 🎉
So if you have real hardware amp digital then its useless to buy an dexpensive one because there is no difference at all .. and comp and delay and reverb and IR i have in my DAW so i am not going to pay for extra comps and delays ..
You OK now Glenn?
Yeah, I am going back to Focusrite. The 4th Gen looks and sounds good. Nice knowing you Audient, but you’re a time bomb with that capacitor issue…
Well... I owned the zen Go model and plz... the rotary knob lasted less than a year. The interaction that you have to be connected to them all the time is terrible. Support is... not supportive. Went on RME UCXII which ok, is so overkill for me but its just ON...and works.
will like to see it against the cheap berhinger 404 that for 150eu give 4 mic , 8 outputs , 4 inserts , ok dost not have adat ,that is in my opinion the best bang for the buck , but if you get the 1820 for 270eu you get 8mic pre and adat , and all the output and insert bla bla ,, has iven 2 the headphone jacks ,
Apple is the gibson of electronic devices
All uad interfaces are overrated and overpriced. They are decent consumer grade products, they are not professional and they are not worth the price. Pro tip- black lion revolution smokes everything in the consumer/prosumer range
Uad is way more reliable then Antelope. But I prefer RME over them all. They sound way better to me and are reliable as well.
I owned an Antelope Audio deiscrete 8 and it was the worst audio interface I've ever owned. It all came down to the drivers. They were not even beta level. Never again.
I'm not really into watching someone open a box, regardless of the speed......
These days, it’s hard to find crap gear across most budgets. I like my UA Apollo equipment but you don’t need it unless you want to track through their plugins.
“Now, fuck off” 😂 You cracked me up at the end there with that. 👏🏽
The drums sounded great raw, room mics. Sounded like...a real drum set. Don't hear that at all anymore.
what's the hype about the apollo twin btw? just 2 inputs 2 outputs and an adat, that's it or am i missing something? the dsp? most have that nowadays
Cheap gear is awesome but sometimes I worry it was made with forced labor or sweatshop conditions. I like affordable stuff but man, this world we live in
Im so glad they included the spdif cause that way i can monitor the guitars or Bass through a Kemper or Helix with zero latency while i record directly into the Interface for the DI.
I use my Apollo 8x for live mixing using the UA plugins
Do the right thing and just get a used apollo. Better, bulletproof, resale value, etc.
In this price bracket the Motu mk5 is a no brainier. would pick it 10 times over these two.
oh man, is so terrible... you got something for free, and now you say this is the best interface. so homeless
You can do aggregate device on windows using VB-Audio Matrix Coconut
Do you have any recommendations for an alternative to the oxbox?
I really like the Presonus Revelator, it’s been really solid for me
Final thoughts... save the extra 4 bills for the Apollo.