On the other hand the non-stop, over-the-top moves and transforms added in editing really put me off the first half. Yes, Glenn, we get that you know how to use editing software. Less is more.
The 1/8" TRS MIDI format is gaining popularity with manufacturers (because it takes up much less space than the full DIN-5 socket), but there are two competing formats (basically, whether the tip or the ring is the current source) so you might end up needing different adapters depending on who's gear you're using (Korg and Roland are one format, Arturia is the opposite). Always read the manual !!!
i dont mind it. he gets clicks, he gets paid, and he gets to keep making content we actually come here for. gotta get that bag somehow or the channel wouldnt even be around. i think he trusts us to know when something is a paid ad and when hes allowed to be honest.
You know what? I kind of suspected, so I opened the page for this video without starting the video [auto-play blocked], and I read the comments first. I came across your comment, and I’m not going to play this video. So Glen won’t get my click!
I don't use TRS to XLR adapter plugs because of the excess pressure they put on the TRS jacks just from the rigid leverage (giggity) of that long adapter; use short adapter _cables_ instead! 1-3' work great. Hit up your friends at Hosa for some; they make nice ones with slender molded plugs.
I'm the same way. In fact, I picked up a bunch of 3' adapter cables that I keep in my cable case for when I do sound for others. They have come in handy on a couple of occasions.
I'm a bit disappointed you didn't test the guitar input of the interface more. I'm a full time guitarist, you're a full time engineer. I've never felt the inputs on interfaces match the sound of the input on my Helix. They sound different, I don't know how to describe it in words, but I get a better sound plugging the guitar into my Helix than I do interfaces I've owned, right now I have the Focusrite Clarett. I was keen to try the new Blackstar interface because that allegedly has a proper guitar input, and I would have liked to have seen you test this Presonus more. It seems I can't be the only one thinking this because companies are now releasing these interfaces with proper guitar inputs, but your expertise here would have helped.
Focusrite is hot garbage, at least their ADC is. Plus they have some serious latency which you'll notice when you start adding effects that also increase latency. You don't need anything super-expensive to notice the difference, even a simple MOTU M2/M4 or SSL 2+ will blow it out of the water and you can see that Focusrite does quite a bit more clipping when you compare them. That being said, it shouldn't be that perceivable, maybe Helix is adding some 'color' in the pre-amp stage that you're just used to?
RE: Helix versus plugged into Interface . . . it's gain staging. I've using a Focurite Clarret as a front-end to an RME RAYDat and a Helix and I noticed the same thing. Stuff sounded better plugged into the Helix than it did going into the interface and using Helix Native. The Helix's auto-impedance thingy is wonderful and makes it a fantastic "direct box." I fixed things by getting an RND Direct box and plugging that into one of the Clarret's XLR inputs. That makes Helix Native sound BETTER than being plugged into the Helix.
best guitar interface i have used is the axe i/o. it has tuneable input impedance and some other input settings that you can mess with to further shape tone. also has an extra output you can use for reamping or using software preamp with tube power section. it is more expensive but as someone who really only uses their input for guitar, its worth it.
I have a POD Go plugged in a ROLAND Octa-Capture and it has the Auto-Sens feature (auto gain) and it worked wonderfully. I can send you some riffage recorded with it but all in all, a good interface properly setup will do you good
@@zwerkofocusrite ADCs (on 3rd and 4th gen Scarlett) are good average. And average these days means the noise floor is around -90db or so, with distortion so minimal that it almost gets lost in the noise. TLDR: the ADCs are great. Unless they clip or maybe you like something with a different input impedance.
One thing I've found with Presonus gear after installing it in several churches, clubs, and few home studios over the last 5 or so years. They're pretty good bang for the buck, pretty clean, and the drivers are decent. HOWEVER, the problems usually start after 2-3 years of being in service when internal components start to fail. We've had to switch out too many of the Presonus installs we've done as typically inputs or outputs will stop working or become noisy and unusable. Not sure of the cause or others experience, but for us we simply had to stop installing them as the failure rate of ~30% of installs after 2-3 years was unacceptable with very little help from Presonus to resolve them.
All modern solder has the lead taken out, and has been for a while. Environmental reasons, but they use other metals like silver, which is very soft and brittle. Solder joints are breaking easier. Which conveniently, for the companies, fits in part of the shorter "planned obsolescence" of modern electronics.
I adore studio One, I have the latest pro version, hassle free DAW that stays out of the way and lets you concentrate on the musice. These things look fantastic, thanks Glen for the great info as ever
me too, love Presonus audiobox and Studio One (Presonus is part of the Fender company btw) - low price but you absolutely can get it to sound professional
Been using an S32 Series 3 I got used on Reverb for about 3 years now. Presonus support is awesome. they helped me get it updated to the latest firmware and resolve an issue with registration. They continue to improve the software and still release firmware for these devices. FYI I found this in the owners manual: "These outputs are labeled as Reamp 1 (channel 11) and Reamp 2 (channel 12) in your DAW. Note: The instrument impedance level is optimally set for re-amping. Output level will be controlled from your DAW" looks like the output gain for the Re-Amp output can be controlled in the DAW.
GLEN, power cord issue? Fill/plug into your (hard to get to) power supply(s) with extensions (before you need to plug stuff in) & hook the other ends somewhere CONVENIENT! You are not on average going to get the cord length you want & need out of the box. Also as you add equipment (boat anchors) it gets increasingly difficult to get to the power supply so make sure you have twice (x2) as many as you currently need as you will need more in the future.
Dude I'm a huge fan. I would love a Studio One tutorial video. I am not a "tech guy" and have been using Studio One for a few years and it's pretty user friendly for us dumb guys. Presonus has a lot of tutorial videos out there but there is not much out there for how to produce and record metal. Please do a video on this. Thanks and Fuck You Glenn.
@@SpectreSoundStudiosSame deal here. I know how to get sound in, record, add a bus, add plug ins, render the file. End of know how, good sir. Maybe an uncommonly know feature video. I’d probably watch that video repeatedly just to get it all down pat.
Mighty Crom that comment about old USB is so on the money. It's ALWAYS correct the first time, but won't go in until you've tried it the other way too, and then come back to the first way.
10:45 they need to make the next run in a 2RU box and let the customer worry about the rack footprint. then they could also put a larger display on the front. This is already a "pro" level piece of equipment, a home studio is not using a rack. So another $30 per unit is not a deal breaker to get a 2ru box and a usable power cord.
2:16 lol, yes, Guitarist! i keed i keed. Someone who worked at sequential told me when i was in school that the reason they used din-5 plugs in the first place was because they were so cheap; they only use three contacts to transmit the actual data so a TRS plug will work just as well.
One phenomenon I realized one pair of my speakers were hit with: intersample peaking. The audio player was fine and not brickwalling, but the output sounded like a McDonalds speaker. I cut back the volume in Windows and it sounds nicer. I like 50% (integer scaling for binary). I think I got that on OBS as well for video capture I wonder if the Presonus can be set to 32-bit float. If so, that may let you go above 0dB. If so, that should be something in a manual
i think the free camera u used in this setup, is better than the fixed one. Consider doing other videos like this btw, cool video the world of audio interfaces is a lot complicated
IMHO they missed it with the price, it’s a great idea to have “all in one” (especially if you really need all) but in EU the price tag is 1000€ (ok, 999€), at half of the price you can get Behringer UMC1820 (it has no headroom issues in the guitar input) AND ADA8200 and have 16 mic inputs (260€ + 220€). Also one option is the digital mixer X Air XR18 that has 16 inputs and can be used as interface as well but can be useful also for rehearsal or live gigs (640€).
Yup. I don't think this is a good gear suggestion at all (is it still aimed at broke home users?), for that price you can buy comparable MOTU. Or Arturia with 16 inputs and 2 ADAT-s. Only thing they don't have is reamp out - which is not good anyway. Or yes, you can go digital mixer route, Midas MR18 is cheaper and more versatile. Behringer slashed prices in USA, you can even get XR32 mixer for less. Don't see why PreSonus thinks their gear is worth that much... And I'm saying this as a PreSonus owner. And XR18 :)
@@Dac1980 For a broken musician or home studio I guess re-amp box is not so must but if so - Re-Amp box costs about 140€ (Radial pro RMP) and there are many under 250€, so if need only 8 tracks and ReAmp it’s under 500€ as well.
@@MikoHa I almost went your route with Behringer 1820 and ADAT for more inputs. By chance stumbled upon Xr18 and thought it would be better for the band, got rid of the crappy old analog mixer and got universal unit for rehearsal and recording. Excellent for learning. Yeah, so many better choices. What, auto gain is worth over 500 $ or €? Hell no. People should learn to set gain, not use auto mode with it. And Glenn says almost all AD converters and preamps are good enough for home recording. So...
I have the previous iteration of the hd8, the quantum 2626. The unit has never once let me down. The only issues I had was that the headphones just copied the main outs and they didn't have remote preamps. Nothing world ending, my claretts took care of that issue, I feed them into the quantum via adat for 24 channels of goodness with ridiculously low round trip latency
Idk about re-amping, but I usually plug my guitar into my interface, turn the input gain ALL the way down to zero, and then let Neural DSP do the rest. I find the plugins actually react better at zero as opposed to boosting the gain with the interface. So Id never use the auto-gain function for guitars. Microphones? Entirely different story. Id love it for my SM7B.
The two outputs could either be staggered or make one stand off further than the other. This solution could be as simple as altering the specs on the machine that punches the holes or a very inexpensive bushing and maybe extending the connections from the output to the board. That should also not be a very costly change.
Glenn, what guitar tuner do you use in the studio? I have started doing a lot of guitar repair and setups over the last year, but recently I found out that chemo had damaged my eyesight and needed something brighter, and rack mounted, rather than loose on the table trying to get a good viewing angle. I am looking at the Korg Pitchblack X Pro, because I can't justify 4 figures on some of the offerings out there. I don't do recording but I love the variety of content you produce in this channel. If you are ever in Scotland I'd be sure to say Hi over a coffee.
Presonus Quantum ES2 vs. Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 4th Gen. Similar price range, similar features. Which one is better for a guitarist/bassist who only wants to play and practise using plugins and haven't started recording anything yet? Any other options to consider? Is it even worth upgrading from Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen if I'm not recording?
You’ve done a lot of testing on tonal differences between humbuckers, and I noticed all of the ones you’ve tested are based on PAF pickups. I know there are other types of humbucking pickups, such as the “mudbuckers” in EB-0 basses. I doubt there are many differences between PAF style pickups and other types of humbuckers, but it seems like a good idea for a test.
7:20 that's so bizzarre from the market perspective considering that electric-guitar-related market and music is like 80% high gain metal and high gain alt rock, punk, etc. It's so werid that the metal-hating normie BS still impacts with dismissing metal as rare and weird even stuff that targets predominantly metalheads, it's just so bizarre I could never wrap my head around it
my take on these is to get the cheapest; sure now usb-c would be an upgrade; but umm would i take 4 harbringer 8 inputs that do work 8 inputs at 96khz, or one of them these fancy pants machines. That reamp output tho, got some noise going from a normal output, maybe, idk, but the noise is not noticeable with loud recordings... and here is the other, should i get one shure sm57, or a behringer clone... Prolly 1:4 ratio, if i had the money. Computers are quite powerful, and tape isn't the limiting factor anymore; so i see there benefit in just stacking mics. There is also an element of redundancy, and modularity. But like 3 snaremics did up the snaresound imho... but i do not hold noi degree nor imply eq :D
Greetings Glenn, we know you run things from Mac now but maybe you can make a video comparison for Audio Interface USB C based VS Thunderbolt based? thank you =D
1:25 that is sooo true you are so right, i never thought about this but its soo annoying with usb normally how didnt i see that little but big difference xD
Hi, Glenn! Greetings from Japan!🎌🗾⛩️ I paused the video to write this when you said “ . . . when I started all this in 1998.“ 1998 is a special year for me, too. It‘s the year I made Japan my permanent home. In closing, your videos are great! Kindest wishes from Japan!🤘😈🔥
Presonus seem to make some solid gear. I’m hoping to get a Faderport 16 in the future - I can’t justify a whole console in my studio and honestly, I wouldn’t use much outside of the faders so having EQ banks seems like a waste of space and money
hey glenn, not sure if this is something that is possible. when doing reamping, is it possible to use one of the regular line outs on the PreSonus for exmaple (or in my case a Scarlet 2i2)? Does it have to be specified as a Guitar line out. Love the videos!!
Hey Glenn. Could you make a video about power conditioners, such as Furman? Apart from surge protection, are they just glorified power outlets with bogus claims about noise reduction?
I use a Presonus StudioLive Series III mixer for my interface. I love it! I have a lot of gear and this allows me to just keep everything plugged in all the time. Can you do a review of these mixers?
I got an 1810c not too long ago to replace an 8 year old AudioBox 44VSL... PreSonus interfaces are so horribly slept on! Also the Eris monitors are pretty fucking decent.
GLENNN! Lewitt DTP 640 REX Dual-Capsule!!! Nice MIC 🎤 🎙 ✌️🎶🎸🤘 would you recommend it for live use, not only studio? Or just go with good placement of a Shure sm57 classic approach. Let me know live setup tips for mic 🎤 placement. Thanks ✌️
On the subject of reamping: I only have one amp/mic, but I do have amp sims. Would I run into any problems if I run my guitar through my A/B/Y box to go to the amp and my 2nd interface input? I'm thinking I could mic the amp through one input and get the guitar direct through the other input. I'm struggling to afford to eat right now so I won't be able to get any new equipment for a while. Are there any potential problems I'm overlooking with the setup I'm thinking about?
Legit looked for your full video on these products hard....yet your meta data isnt there to find...accidently find it now 😂😂😂😂 seen ur short on presonus at launch and couldnt find it on channel😅
I have an amp modeler. After watching one of your videos about using 2 different mics for recording guitar, I embraced that info, and am really digging the sound. But which do you use? A dynamic 57 and a condenser? My ears can't tell what the differences are. In search of tone.
Shootout vz Clarrette pre2+, and a few others preamp wise????? Do they have good headroom for high gain pickups etc? I am in the market and am leaning to the Focusrite 2+ I do not mic amps at all anymore so not an issue for me. but the headroom and clarity, and latency matter more for me.
Presonus is the best. They are absolutely slept on. Their interfaces/mixers are incredible. StudioOne is the GOAT DAW. I'm very happy to see a world where Glenn and Presonus are involved. Hell yeah dude!
ROFLMGDAO!!! Priceless, as always, Glenn. Funny enough, for monitors, I have to keep switching my standard PC speakers between my computer and my damn interface. No joke, I got my speakers at the thrift store. 😂😅 I am actually surprised that they work fairly well, but they are certainly not designed to be plugged into my interface. P.S. - The electronic drum kit actually has me faintly jealous. LOL
i have never once referred to myself as intelligent because i am a musician lol...i use an ssl2 audio interface and presonus eris 8 speakers, both recommended by a friend who knows more than i do...i liked the bogren tone by the way
I'm guessing the reamp problem is because you have recorded with other interface (not 32-bit), hence your gain is bellow 0db. Just guessing. I'm selling my gear to get one of these interfaces, because at last I'll be able to move to Linux with a usable interface.
I sure do love a commercial disguised as original content! Every PreSonus product I've owned has broken in short order, so I'll wait and see if these hold up any better....
I have a Marshall DSL20CR An amp that sounds amazing, easy to use, and becomes incredible when you change the original speaker. But there's an Emulated Out output, and I don't know how to record with it and have it synchronized with the video if I'm filming myself. Can someone help ? Thanks
So I heard reamp out and my ears perked up. Then it performance was quite underwhelming. Does anyone know about the reamp outs on the antelope zen tour? Are they any good?
Pre Sonus makes great shit! I personally like their recording DAW the best. My complaints are with the hardware that you have a learning curve. I noticed you have digital drums. Way better for recording. I love the DM5Pro sounds and ease of use. WAY Better than Roland sounds ew and now that they are old as shit reasonably priced on Ebay or Reverb. I like running normal drum shells (again you can use ANY since you are triggering so this lowers the price you can buy the shittiest shells ever and they still work!) then put a mesh head on except for the snare and use Red Shot triggers. Also, I noticed your V cymbals. I did not like the sounds because to my trained ear they had the exact predictable duration and vibrations cycle so obviously triggers not real recorded. Here is a little secret I use... I kept the V ones and got a small set of Zildjians. I ran 4 mics through a small mixer then ran this to my MOTU units and put them on one channel then have each DM5Pro (I use 2 because my set is too large for just 1) running straight to my MOTU on 2 channels. So I level the kits I make with each other then 3 channels total for a whole drum kit on MOTU!! I level them so no clipping and good greens then level finely in the DAW. Super simple and GREAT sounds! The normal cymbals mixed with the V ones masks the triggers with variance and fools the ear. Plus this saves THOUSANDS of $$$ on cymbals which are prone to dents and cracks then need replaced. Nope no more!! A person can make a mega nice set that way for about $1000 - $1500 all in mixer drums and all! Best part is sound checks are super fast, recording again super fast and all easy the only hard part is making your kits which I admit spent days on getting them correct to my ear but once done your done. Back them up on a disk and never again. You could take old buckets and fit heads on them if you wanted to make pro sounding drums literally it is the best way to go EVER! I recall we were so poor when we were kids in the early 1980s some friends of mine had cardboard boxes and a set of sticks! That was before the inner city bucket craze etc hit TV. I was like wow this actually works!! The bad thing is that they don't last very long lol unlike the electric drums now which smoke the real deal! I never thought I would say this but drummers are screwed! I write using Addictive Drums and a computer now with Midi keyboard and loops I modify. Then give to my real drummer he learns the parts. So much quicker and better to go than hours with another person trying to get your ideas across. Anyway, I digress you should get a set of real cymbals and try it like I describe. Trust me you will like it!
Coming from a guy who claims the necessity of the speaker is what makes the sound and then he expects you to hear what he's listening to in his studio? GFY Glen!
Am I the only one that REALLY enjoys “freecam” Glenn? Moving around the studio and showing us behind the scenes
On the other hand the non-stop, over-the-top moves and transforms added in editing really put me off the first half. Yes, Glenn, we get that you know how to use editing software. Less is more.
I think it’s great!
Once a month, gear/studio overview via Glenn-cam would be a cool series I agree 👏🎯
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Years later, we finally got a sequel of glen on drums.
You think he'll ever play bass? 🤣🤣
Your content is good enough without the bogus titles and thumbnails.
The 1/8" TRS MIDI format is gaining popularity with manufacturers (because it takes up much less space than the full DIN-5 socket), but there are two competing formats (basically, whether the tip or the ring is the current source) so you might end up needing different adapters depending on who's gear you're using (Korg and Roland are one format, Arturia is the opposite). Always read the manual !!!
Glenn's content rules but man, I feel like such a sucker clicking on the clickbait titles and thumbnails.
Nah. Glen totally breaks the 4th and all further walls. You know that he knows you know.
i dont mind it. he gets clicks, he gets paid, and he gets to keep making content we actually come here for. gotta get that bag somehow or the channel wouldnt even be around. i think he trusts us to know when something is a paid ad and when hes allowed to be honest.
when this happens, i just don't watch the video (like this one haha)
You know what? I kind of suspected, so I opened the page for this video without starting the video [auto-play blocked], and I read the comments first. I came across your comment, and I’m not going to play this video. So Glen won’t get my click!
I don't use TRS to XLR adapter plugs because of the excess pressure they put on the TRS jacks just from the rigid leverage (giggity) of that long adapter; use short adapter _cables_ instead! 1-3' work great. Hit up your friends at Hosa for some; they make nice ones with slender molded plugs.
I'm the same way. In fact, I picked up a bunch of 3' adapter cables that I keep in my cable case for when I do sound for others. They have come in handy on a couple of occasions.
I'm a bit disappointed you didn't test the guitar input of the interface more.
I'm a full time guitarist, you're a full time engineer. I've never felt the inputs on interfaces match the sound of the input on my Helix. They sound different, I don't know how to describe it in words, but I get a better sound plugging the guitar into my Helix than I do interfaces I've owned, right now I have the Focusrite Clarett. I was keen to try the new Blackstar interface because that allegedly has a proper guitar input, and I would have liked to have seen you test this Presonus more.
It seems I can't be the only one thinking this because companies are now releasing these interfaces with proper guitar inputs, but your expertise here would have helped.
Focusrite is hot garbage, at least their ADC is. Plus they have some serious latency which you'll notice when you start adding effects that also increase latency. You don't need anything super-expensive to notice the difference, even a simple MOTU M2/M4 or SSL 2+ will blow it out of the water and you can see that Focusrite does quite a bit more clipping when you compare them. That being said, it shouldn't be that perceivable, maybe Helix is adding some 'color' in the pre-amp stage that you're just used to?
RE: Helix versus plugged into Interface . . . it's gain staging. I've using a Focurite Clarret as a front-end to an RME RAYDat and a Helix and I noticed the same thing. Stuff sounded better plugged into the Helix than it did going into the interface and using Helix Native. The Helix's auto-impedance thingy is wonderful and makes it a fantastic "direct box."
I fixed things by getting an RND Direct box and plugging that into one of the Clarret's XLR inputs. That makes Helix Native sound BETTER than being plugged into the Helix.
best guitar interface i have used is the axe i/o. it has tuneable input impedance and some other input settings that you can mess with to further shape tone. also has an extra output you can use for reamping or using software preamp with tube power section. it is more expensive but as someone who really only uses their input for guitar, its worth it.
I have a POD Go plugged in a ROLAND Octa-Capture and it has the Auto-Sens feature (auto gain) and it worked wonderfully. I can send you some riffage recorded with it but all in all, a good interface properly setup will do you good
@@zwerkofocusrite ADCs (on 3rd and 4th gen Scarlett) are good average. And average these days means the noise floor is around -90db or so, with distortion so minimal that it almost gets lost in the noise.
TLDR: the ADCs are great. Unless they clip or maybe you like something with a different input impedance.
One thing I've found with Presonus gear after installing it in several churches, clubs, and few home studios over the last 5 or so years. They're pretty good bang for the buck, pretty clean, and the drivers are decent. HOWEVER, the problems usually start after 2-3 years of being in service when internal components start to fail. We've had to switch out too many of the Presonus installs we've done as typically inputs or outputs will stop working or become noisy and unusable.
Not sure of the cause or others experience, but for us we simply had to stop installing them as the failure rate of ~30% of installs after 2-3 years was unacceptable with very little help from Presonus to resolve them.
All modern solder has the lead taken out, and has been for a while. Environmental reasons, but they use other metals like silver, which is very soft and brittle. Solder joints are breaking easier. Which conveniently, for the companies, fits in part of the shorter "planned obsolescence" of modern electronics.
The thumbnail! Lol. Poor Stevie
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I adore studio One, I have the latest pro version, hassle free DAW that stays out of the way and lets you concentrate on the musice. These things look fantastic, thanks Glen for the great info as ever
I love my presonus audiobox. Got the 2 cannel with studio one artist for $70 new. Amazing products especially considering the price
me too, love Presonus audiobox and Studio One (Presonus is part of the Fender company btw) - low price but you absolutely can get it to sound professional
Been using an S32 Series 3 I got used on Reverb for about 3 years now. Presonus support is awesome. they helped me get it updated to the latest firmware and resolve an issue with registration. They continue to improve the software and still release firmware for these devices.
FYI I found this in the owners manual: "These outputs are labeled as Reamp 1 (channel 11) and Reamp 2 (channel 12) in your DAW. Note: The instrument impedance level is optimally set for re-amping. Output level will be controlled from
your DAW"
looks like the output gain for the Re-Amp output can be controlled in the DAW.
GLEN, power cord issue?
Fill/plug into your (hard to get to) power supply(s) with extensions (before you need to plug stuff in) & hook the other ends somewhere CONVENIENT!
You are not on average going to get the cord length you want & need out of the box.
Also as you add equipment (boat anchors) it gets increasingly difficult to get to the power supply so make sure you have twice (x2) as many as you currently need as you will need more in the future.
Dude I'm a huge fan.
I would love a Studio One tutorial video. I am not a "tech guy" and have been using Studio One for a few years and it's pretty user friendly for us dumb guys.
Presonus has a lot of tutorial videos out there but there is not much out there for how to produce and record metal.
Please do a video on this.
Thanks and Fuck You Glenn.
Ok, I’ll see what I can do
@@SpectreSoundStudiosSame deal here. I know how to get sound in, record, add a bus, add plug ins, render the file. End of know how, good sir. Maybe an uncommonly know feature video. I’d probably watch that video repeatedly just to get it all down pat.
I agree, please do that!!! @@SpectreSoundStudios
Mighty Crom that comment about old USB is so on the money. It's ALWAYS correct the first time, but won't go in until you've tried it the other way too, and then come back to the first way.
10:45 they need to make the next run in a 2RU box and let the customer worry about the rack footprint. then they could also put a larger display on the front. This is already a "pro" level piece of equipment, a home studio is not using a rack. So another $30 per unit is not a deal breaker to get a 2ru box and a usable power cord.
2:16 lol, yes, Guitarist! i keed i keed.
Someone who worked at sequential told me when i was in school that the reason they used din-5 plugs in the first place was because they were so cheap; they only use three contacts to transmit the actual data so a TRS plug will work just as well.
One phenomenon I realized one pair of my speakers were hit with: intersample peaking. The audio player was fine and not brickwalling, but the output sounded like a McDonalds speaker. I cut back the volume in Windows and it sounds nicer. I like 50% (integer scaling for binary). I think I got that on OBS as well for video capture
I wonder if the Presonus can be set to 32-bit float. If so, that may let you go above 0dB. If so, that should be something in a manual
i think the free camera u used in this setup, is better than the fixed one. Consider doing other videos like this
btw, cool video the world of audio interfaces is a lot complicated
IMHO they missed it with the price, it’s a great idea to have “all in one” (especially if you really need all) but in EU the price tag is 1000€ (ok, 999€), at half of the price you can get Behringer UMC1820 (it has no headroom issues in the guitar input) AND ADA8200 and have 16 mic inputs (260€ + 220€).
Also one option is the digital mixer X Air XR18 that has 16 inputs and can be used as interface as well but can be useful also for rehearsal or live gigs (640€).
Yup. I don't think this is a good gear suggestion at all (is it still aimed at broke home users?), for that price you can buy comparable MOTU. Or Arturia with 16 inputs and 2 ADAT-s. Only thing they don't have is reamp out - which is not good anyway. Or yes, you can go digital mixer route, Midas MR18 is cheaper and more versatile. Behringer slashed prices in USA, you can even get XR32 mixer for less. Don't see why PreSonus thinks their gear is worth that much... And I'm saying this as a PreSonus owner. And XR18 :)
@@Dac1980
For a broken musician or home studio I guess re-amp box is not so must but if so - Re-Amp box costs about 140€ (Radial pro RMP) and there are many under 250€, so if need only 8 tracks and ReAmp it’s under 500€ as well.
@@MikoHa I almost went your route with Behringer 1820 and ADAT for more inputs. By chance stumbled upon Xr18 and thought it would be better for the band, got rid of the crappy old analog mixer and got universal unit for rehearsal and recording. Excellent for learning. Yeah, so many better choices. What, auto gain is worth over 500 $ or €? Hell no. People should learn to set gain, not use auto mode with it. And Glenn says almost all AD converters and preamps are good enough for home recording. So...
I have the previous iteration of the hd8, the quantum 2626. The unit has never once let me down. The only issues I had was that the headphones just copied the main outs and they didn't have remote preamps. Nothing world ending, my claretts took care of that issue, I feed them into the quantum via adat for 24 channels of goodness with ridiculously low round trip latency
Idk about re-amping, but I usually plug my guitar into my interface, turn the input gain ALL the way down to zero, and then let Neural DSP do the rest. I find the plugins actually react better at zero as opposed to boosting the gain with the interface. So Id never use the auto-gain function for guitars.
Microphones? Entirely different story. Id love it for my SM7B.
@4.52 in. I'm sold. It has Glenn's curiosity.
onboard DI's almost always struggle with non weenie guitar pickup levels
The two outputs could either be staggered or make one stand off further than the other. This solution could be as simple as altering the specs on the machine that punches the holes or a very inexpensive bushing and maybe extending the connections from the output to the board. That should also not be a very costly change.
Glenn, what guitar tuner do you use in the studio? I have started doing a lot of guitar repair and setups over the last year, but recently I found out that chemo had damaged my eyesight and needed something brighter, and rack mounted, rather than loose on the table trying to get a good viewing angle. I am looking at the Korg Pitchblack X Pro, because I can't justify 4 figures on some of the offerings out there. I don't do recording but I love the variety of content you produce in this channel. If you are ever in Scotland I'd be sure to say Hi over a coffee.
I have been using Presonus interfaces for 10 years. I am currently using the Studio 192 which has been discontinued. Might be time for an upgrade.
I've been reamping straight out of my Tascam DP32, seems to work fine.
Presonus Quantum ES2 vs. Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 4th Gen. Similar price range, similar features. Which one is better for a guitarist/bassist who only wants to play and practise using plugins and haven't started recording anything yet? Any other options to consider? Is it even worth upgrading from Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen if I'm not recording?
Hooray a good guitar input!!!!! Happy gear streeting
Setting up drum kits' has always been the most annoying, time consuming endeavour😂. That said, those electric drums are cool!
You’ve done a lot of testing on tonal differences between humbuckers, and I noticed all of the ones you’ve tested are based on PAF pickups. I know there are other types of humbucking pickups, such as the “mudbuckers” in EB-0 basses. I doubt there are many differences between PAF style pickups and other types of humbuckers, but it seems like a good idea for a test.
7:20 that's so bizzarre from the market perspective considering that electric-guitar-related market and music is like 80% high gain metal and high gain alt rock, punk, etc.
It's so werid that the metal-hating normie BS still impacts with dismissing metal as rare and weird even stuff that targets predominantly metalheads, it's just so bizarre I could never wrap my head around it
my take on these is to get the cheapest; sure now usb-c would be an upgrade; but umm would i take 4 harbringer 8 inputs that do work 8 inputs at 96khz, or one of them these fancy pants machines. That reamp output tho, got some noise going from a normal output, maybe, idk, but the noise is not noticeable with loud recordings... and here is the other, should i get one shure sm57, or a behringer clone... Prolly 1:4 ratio, if i had the money.
Computers are quite powerful, and tape isn't the limiting factor anymore; so i see there benefit in just stacking mics. There is also an element of redundancy, and modularity. But like 3 snaremics did up the snaresound imho... but i do not hold noi degree nor imply eq :D
Just like a Scarlett 18i20 that costs less than 1/2 the money. Anyone who hears a difference in the pre-amps has bionic hearing. Tonewood anyone?
Greetings Glenn, we know you run things from Mac now but maybe you can make a video comparison for Audio Interface USB C based VS Thunderbolt based? thank you =D
2:59 the picture is so clear, the box looks exactly like a chyron and not a physical box 😮
6:54 That's not an ideal edit point when showing off how fast a machine calibrates. How much time did you cut out?
1:25
that is sooo true
you are so right, i never thought about this
but its soo annoying with usb normally
how didnt i see that little but big difference xD
3:54 a box fart 🤣🤣
love it 🤘🤘
editing game is on point!
Aren't you a guitar player Glenn?
"You gotta select Mic Two and spit on that thang!"
I just wish they had a thunderbolt version. The 2626 is the only Presonus that does and the 1ms latency is unbelievable. That’s real amp speed.
I think PreSonus is going away from Thunderbolt because Thunderbolt 4 isn't backwards capability to 3 or 2
UI settings
Loopback, you have to click the eyeball
Saw it on Taylor Danley's vid ;)
Hi, Glenn! Greetings from Japan!🎌🗾⛩️
I paused the video to write this when you said “ . . . when I started all this in 1998.“
1998 is a special year for me, too. It‘s the year I made Japan my permanent home.
In closing, your videos are great!
Kindest wishes from Japan!🤘😈🔥
I love Japan!!
USB C is much better than micro's B jacks or connectors would always break. Whoever engineered the design did a good job.
One thing you mention a lot is DI boxes, something I still don't have. Are they necessary if you use a mixing board?
Seeing Glenn with "RUclips" editing is like I'm in the twilight zone. The first video I watched of his is the autotune one.
MiniTRS for midi is becoming a new standard. Means dropping money on DIN converters but much less bulky
Cool, thanks Glenn, I been watching the HD8.
As a bass player, I really enjoy all the shit talk Glenn dishes out to bass players.
First time a bass player is on time for anything 😊
I really want to see more e drums content. You play better than I would
Have u tried boosting the output send in Reaper when reamping?
Hi Glenn! How do you think 2 Creamback speakers would pare with 2 Hesu Deamons in a cab?
What’s your multi-input connector plugged into the MacBook Air?
presonus was legit before fender bought them out, i love my io station in line with my other interfaces the single slider is fantastic.
Presonus seem to make some solid gear. I’m hoping to get a Faderport 16 in the future - I can’t justify a whole console in my studio and honestly, I wouldn’t use much outside of the faders so having EQ banks seems like a waste of space and money
Yeah I hope that PreSonus comes out with HD Quantum 4848 version with the DB25 ports
hey glenn, not sure if this is something that is possible. when doing reamping, is it possible to use one of the regular line outs on the PreSonus for exmaple (or in my case a Scarlet 2i2)? Does it have to be specified as a Guitar line out.
Love the videos!!
Great video Glenn. I definitely learned a few new things about Audio Interfaces.
Hey Glenn. Could you make a video about power conditioners, such as Furman? Apart from surge protection, are they just glorified power outlets with bogus claims about noise reduction?
Loved the analysis on the prosonus and demo, right on.
I use a Presonus StudioLive Series III mixer for my interface. I love it! I have a lot of gear and this allows me to just keep everything plugged in all the time. Can you do a review of these mixers?
I got an 1810c not too long ago to replace an 8 year old AudioBox 44VSL... PreSonus interfaces are so horribly slept on!
Also the Eris monitors are pretty fucking decent.
GLENNN! Lewitt DTP 640 REX Dual-Capsule!!! Nice MIC 🎤 🎙 ✌️🎶🎸🤘 would you recommend it for live use, not only studio? Or just go with good placement of a Shure sm57 classic approach. Let me know live setup tips for mic 🎤 placement. Thanks ✌️
Dual channel interface and a reamp box in one?? Why hasn't anyone done this before??
The 2 channel at $229.99 doesn't have that feature, the HD models have it but thats starts at $499.99
@@zaphodrahja then maybe not such good value
On the subject of reamping: I only have one amp/mic, but I do have amp sims. Would I run into any problems if I run my guitar through my A/B/Y box to go to the amp and my 2nd interface input? I'm thinking I could mic the amp through one input and get the guitar direct through the other input. I'm struggling to afford to eat right now so I won't be able to get any new equipment for a while. Are there any potential problems I'm overlooking with the setup I'm thinking about?
I see so many conflicting reviews of them, but what's your take on the combination 1/4 inch / XLR jacks?
Been a while since I've watched one of your vidz, Glenn and holy crap! You upgraded big time! Happy for all your success!
Can you jump the guitar jacks on the front panel, plexi-style?
Just a dozen more cameras away from one of those Matrix camera moves. Would make a drum roll look awesome.
those samson racks are the goat. i have 3 16u, 2 21u and a 8u
Legit looked for your full video on these products hard....yet your meta data isnt there to find...accidently find it now 😂😂😂😂 seen ur short on presonus at launch and couldnt find it on channel😅
Great video... good to see a good review and no bashing!
I have an amp modeler. After watching one of your videos about using 2 different mics for recording guitar, I embraced that info, and am really digging the sound. But which do you use? A dynamic 57 and a condenser? My ears can't tell what the differences are. In search of tone.
I use a Lewitt 640 Rex
@@SpectreSoundStudios thanks
Shootout vz Clarrette pre2+, and a few others preamp wise????? Do they have good headroom for high gain pickups etc? I am in the market and am leaning to the Focusrite 2+ I do not mic amps at all anymore so not an issue for me. but the headroom and clarity, and latency matter more for me.
At least 3 inputs for drums, 1 bass, 2 guitars and 1 vocal mic and you have a setup for a small band.
man, the opening of the video should be printed on paper and lay it around town
Which re-amp would you instead recommend?
Presonus is the best. They are absolutely slept on. Their interfaces/mixers are incredible. StudioOne is the GOAT DAW. I'm very happy to see a world where Glenn and Presonus are involved. Hell yeah dude!
ROFLMGDAO!!! Priceless, as always, Glenn.
Funny enough, for monitors, I have to keep switching my standard PC speakers between my computer and my damn interface.
No joke, I got my speakers at the thrift store. 😂😅 I am actually surprised that they work fairly well, but they are certainly not designed to be plugged into my interface.
P.S. - The electronic drum kit actually has me faintly jealous. LOL
i have never once referred to myself as intelligent because i am a musician lol...i use an ssl2 audio interface and presonus eris 8 speakers, both recommended by a friend who knows more than i do...i liked the bogren tone by the way
Was that a clean tone I heard when you were setting up the drum kit? Lol
I'm guessing the reamp problem is because you have recorded with other interface (not 32-bit), hence your gain is bellow 0db.
Just guessing. I'm selling my gear to get one of these interfaces, because at last I'll be able to move to Linux with a usable interface.
Looks like a good unit it even pick up background whos playing 😊
I sure do love a commercial disguised as original content! Every PreSonus product I've owned has broken in short order, so I'll wait and see if these hold up any better....
Stevie T?
I did see Stevie T on the thumbnail but I couldn't tell if there was a reference to him in this video-
As if Fender was ever recognized for that kind of gear…..
Glenn!!
When I spend next time I'm getting a 8 channel to go with a 8 channel eq
I have a Marshall DSL20CR An amp that sounds amazing, easy to use, and becomes incredible when you change the original speaker.
But there's an Emulated Out output, and I don't know how to record with it and have it synchronized with the video if I'm filming myself.
Can someone help ?
Thanks
your videos make my day
that actually looks really cool
Final verdict on the Quantum HD 8? HAMMER OF TRUTH!!!! /srs
Videos with Beavis and Butthead references get auto-liked.
Rhe quantum seems like the audient id14, i like that
So I heard reamp out and my ears perked up. Then it performance was quite underwhelming. Does anyone know about the reamp outs on the antelope zen tour? Are they any good?
Pre Sonus makes great shit! I personally like their recording DAW the best. My complaints are with the hardware that you have a learning curve. I noticed you have digital drums. Way better for recording. I love the DM5Pro sounds and ease of use. WAY Better than Roland sounds ew and now that they are old as shit reasonably priced on Ebay or Reverb. I like running normal drum shells (again you can use ANY since you are triggering so this lowers the price you can buy the shittiest shells ever and they still work!) then put a mesh head on except for the snare and use Red Shot triggers. Also, I noticed your V cymbals. I did not like the sounds because to my trained ear they had the exact predictable duration and vibrations cycle so obviously triggers not real recorded. Here is a little secret I use... I kept the V ones and got a small set of Zildjians. I ran 4 mics through a small mixer then ran this to my MOTU units and put them on one channel then have each DM5Pro (I use 2 because my set is too large for just 1) running straight to my MOTU on 2 channels. So I level the kits I make with each other then 3 channels total for a whole drum kit on MOTU!! I level them so no clipping and good greens then level finely in the DAW. Super simple and GREAT sounds! The normal cymbals mixed with the V ones masks the triggers with variance and fools the ear. Plus this saves THOUSANDS of $$$ on cymbals which are prone to dents and cracks then need replaced. Nope no more!! A person can make a mega nice set that way for about $1000 - $1500 all in mixer drums and all! Best part is sound checks are super fast, recording again super fast and all easy the only hard part is making your kits which I admit spent days on getting them correct to my ear but once done your done. Back them up on a disk and never again. You could take old buckets and fit heads on them if you wanted to make pro sounding drums literally it is the best way to go EVER! I recall we were so poor when we were kids in the early 1980s some friends of mine had cardboard boxes and a set of sticks! That was before the inner city bucket craze etc hit TV. I was like wow this actually works!! The bad thing is that they don't last very long lol unlike the electric drums now which smoke the real deal! I never thought I would say this but drummers are screwed! I write using Addictive Drums and a computer now with Midi keyboard and loops I modify. Then give to my real drummer he learns the parts. So much quicker and better to go than hours with another person trying to get your ideas across. Anyway, I digress you should get a set of real cymbals and try it like I describe. Trust me you will like it!
Coming from a guy who claims the necessity of the speaker is what makes the sound and then he expects you to hear what he's listening to in his studio? GFY Glen!