As a U.S. locomotive engineer qualified on steam, I was very lucky to have been invited to ride this locomotive during their Long Lunch excursion from Sydney in 2000. My wife was competing as a member of the United States Equestrian Team during the 2000 Sydney Games and the excursion took place on her one day off which permitted me the time off to ride. This is a wonderful locomotive and the entire crew were very welcoming. It was a fantastic trip to Australia and I am grateful for the warm and friendly welcome we received.
richardscathouse, steam locomotives have a safety valve that pops when the locomotive exceeds a safe boiler pressure. The sharp exhaust beats are largely to do with the reverser and throttle being open or closed, mostly depending on the situation (in this case, battling a steep grade with a loaded train).
Steam engines have that whimsical trait electric transmission just doesn't have, taming a stallion is way more spectacular than dealing with a draft horse. The fact you can control torque of an electric engine with power electronics is that's what makes it both reliable and bland in the end (unless you like the sound of power regulators, check here for reference ruclips.net/video/0tDOVwVVBKY/видео.html ).
Takes a huge amount of work and trouble to keep a steam locomotive running as compared to electric or diesel, but they are a thing of mechanical beauty.
I Love to hear the sound when the wheels are slipping on the rails like this one was. Old school railroading in my book. Thanks for a very good video. (Mississippi gulf coast, USA).
This is amazing footage! Not only because it shows how beautifully 3801 has now been restored, but also to show the sheer power of this magnificent, Australian-built piece of engineering! Incredible to think that she's been around since 1943. (As a bonus, I was born in Young, so this footage has some personal significance as well.) Thank you so much for sharing!
I agree, 3801 definitely looks better today than it did in this video. Can’t wait to see people like this getting out and filming it more, you used to only be able to find videos from people who dragged a massive camera and tripod to a station platform and now you see groups of people filming with everything from DSLRs to iPads
That was incredible fast thinking engineers to put sand on the tracks a number of things could have gone wrong there where very lucky thanks for the video 👍🇺🇸
Great video. Sound is superb. I have done this before: hand sanding in the rain, 1: 40 grade, sharp curves, and rusty head on the rail. The rain makes the rust particles from the spinning wheels into a slippery paste. The sharp curves that much harder to drag the train around. So much momentum is lost once the train reaches the curved and graded track. The crew did well here getting her over the bank.
@@calebcurfman4415 I would agree at high speed but would also mention that the Montréal metro system uses rubber tyres. Smoother ride. Don't know about other metro systems.
@@georgeknowles5327 Metro trains can be lighter though. Main line trains are usually much heavier. Another problem with rubber tires is that they reduce the efficiency. Steel wheels/tires have very low rolling resistance.
Amazing how the workers handled this situation, I can't imagine it was their first time doing it. I suspect part of the problem was because they were running the loco backwards so only 4 out of 6 driving wheels where getting sand since the sand shoots are located on the front of the wheel.
Sander spout is located in front of the first driven pair on these locomotives. Running in reverse it can't sand for drive traction. I'm not familiar with the station locations so maybe it originally had a turntable. Or the locomotives would enter in reverse so they could go up the grade forwards.
When I was a kid in Tasmania, we had a rail line through our farm on a short but steep grade. When it was really wet they used to often have to split the train. We were a couple of miles from Scottsdale.
It still blows my mind that something so heavy is still powerful enough to spin its wheels like that. Steam locomotives are amazing. Also, I would hate to have to be that guy with the shovel. One wrong move and let's just say a new shovel isn't gonna be the only new thing you need.
This is the perfect example of what we have lost in the age of modern diesel trains... steams trains are just so much more amazing to look at, very well designed, and overall just beautiful works of art. If we had designed diesels to at Least LOOK like steam trains in a way, then maybe I would like them more. (I feel the same about the way classic cars look compared to modern cars, classic cars always look so much cooler.)
Looks very familiar. I worked in the Norfolk Southern (US) shops. Sometimes on-track equipment would stall, and we couldn't get them in/out of the shops. So, like this video, we, too, took a box of sand and spread it under the wheels so as to get moving. We, too, had steam excursion engines, most notably NW 611. I also got to work with this engine.
nice videography to catch the wheelslip there. Seriously interesting, even kinda fun to watch. Something makes me doubt it was fun for the crew, though.
This reminds me of most of my childhood. As we live on the Liverpool to Manchester Railway, the section through Whiston, which is between Huyton and Rainhill, where the Rainhill Trials took place is a gradient, our back garden was twice the height of the trains, many of which would have to stop right underneath us. The sound and the vibrations would go through you, but the desire to stay and watch was stronger than the fear of the noise..
Excellent video, shows good teamwork. The Engineer knower what he doing, and his crew know their stuff. Maybe, a double header lashed back to back would have made this excursion go a little less stressful. But that life of the railroad, the good with the less than good, but never bad.
The Driver has great response to wheel slip and a feel for the grip and control of the power...most of the time...does concern they are digging sand from the bank that holds them up...:-) Great Footage
Sadly, I disagree. The driver DOESN'T have a great response. After the fourth time with the wheels spinning out, he should've simply got the train moving, ..then let it slowly chuff upward. He's mostly having trouble because he's trying to build speed and momentum, and there's simply not enough friction available to do that.
I grew up in Cessnock in the Hunter Valley. The coal was still moved by steam trains - from memory, well into the late 70's - and on cold winter mornings you could often hear the trains slipping on the tracks, along with the somewhat eerie sound of the train whistle. Wonderful machines. Not everything about progress is good.
I worked at the SRA of NSW in Newcastle in the 1980's when 3801 was doing weekend runs. she would have to use the triangle between Broadmeadow/Islington and Hamilton and would be controlled by the signal box I was a Signalman at, ( Woodville junction ) It was glorious in full flight and throwing the levers to switch 3801 onto the main line involved quite a few tough lever pulls!
During my childhood days, I too used to see how the engine used to struggle with wheel slips. The staff used to pour sand over the tracks to facilitate the engine for a smooth hauling. It's a trill even today to watch the steam engine. The Rhythematic noice it makes during it's travel is so mesmerizing. One has to feel it.
I rebuild a pumping hand car, one day an elderly lady, when she was young lived near a train line where a hand car would go by. So I gave her a ride sitting on the end and gave her a trill of her life and gave her something to remember for the rest of her life. She was in her 80's. Live life & Carry on!
when I was a kid, we still had steam locomotives, grandpa would take us to the station to show the locomotives. Standing near the wheels, sometimes steam would be released (i guess there is a valve near the wheels), and I would run away scared 🤣🤣🤣
Every rail fan's dream.to see and feel the steam engine and the power it packs is awesome..my suggestion is to use sand bags in these difficult terrains and avoid the nightmare.hope my suggestion is taken into consideration
I remember this so well, and so will all those other kids. We lived on the railway line and knew most of the engineers and firemen, the freight trains came through every day most of the year and had trouble climbing the grade where we lived. A flat penny on the line was a good trade item at school. We always got a long whistle from the engineers when they went past. I'd give everything to go back to those days.
5:50 ....absolutely close to tipping point!! Firebox about to melt, steam shell about to burst, cranking gear about to splinter....such palpable mechanical and thermal tension!!! I have just participated in the making of an epic 3801 movie....kudos Dvd
@@lonewolf2156 True. At least that season is pretty limited in time. Here in sweden they have cut down the trees along the lines to prevent them from falling over the OHLE and a positive side effect is that we seldom get leaves on the tracks at all. :) I only ride on the northern parts of the system so I don´t know how it is in the south though...
turokforever007 The comment is indeed true. If it is going to rain, you want it to pour down. Drizzle, especially on rusty rail makes them very slippery.
This video is awesome. Thanks for the great sound. I think I can, I think I can! Reminds me of Norfolk & Western J-611 both today and when I was a kid.
Serie C38 4-6-2 de NSWGR diseñada por Harold Young en 1943. La 3801 se conserva en el Museo del Transporte de NSW, Thirlmere. Espectaculares imagenes estimado Rock Solid. Thanks for shared.
Weirdly enough, “gunzel sabotage” actually contributed to a fatal accident involving this very locomotive in 1990. It is thought that handbrakes may have been applied by passengers on a steam special causing the train to wheel slip and stall on Cowan bank. The sand applied by the loco caused the track circuits to malfunction and the following inter urban train was given a wrong side green aspect and subsequently plowed into the back of the special.
@@Jerram89 oh the Cowan bank disaster, my pop and dad were in the cab of 3801 when it happened. They were in the cab because my pop used to drive 3801 until 2008, when I was born. He sadly passed away earlier this year...
Long lasting wheels and rails spells the weakness of poor traction. It hasn't changed much either. I remember as a daily commuter any number of times sliding past the stations in poor wx conditions. I bet this one won't run backwards ever again.
Poor old train does not deserve the struggle. It's already put it's years in. Retire it and let it stand proud as a piece of history that people can climb thru and look at first hand.
@Minecraft777 That is awesome. When it was chugging so hard, it reminded me of myself and trying to breathe during an asthma attack so I felt so bad for it. I know, that's silly to say the least.
When I hear a steam locomotive chugging, all I hear is “ I think I can, I think I can, I think I can” Probably a side affect of my kid watching too much Thomas the tank engine. Lol
That's what I love about old tech. New tech is easy, safe and tries to be pretty. Old tech can barely get its job done, but it does, and it's a marvel to behold. I'd love to work on an old train that has to climb the same hill everyday. Breaks down and whines and gets every muscle in its body steaming hot. But never fails. Everyday. For the rest of your life. Total bliss.
@@haroldwilkes6608, whenyou have the opportunity, watch the 1973 movie "Emperor of the North Pole" with Lee Marvin & Ernest Borgnine. The hobos did it in the movie.
Love to see the steam engines in action...makes my heart skip a beat. 😳I saw the old Chessie Steam Special on a couple of runs...got to stand above the stack on the cat walk and was able to catch many aromas before she headed out.🥰
One of my earliest memories is watching, what I now know to be a D57 or D58, with its Standard Goods Valley Heights banker, struggling up the 1 in 30 grade of Boddiington Hill (in the Blue mountains) in the wet. The chuff...chuff... chuff.... chuff...chuff, chuff,chuff, chuff of 3801 in this clip brought it all back so clearly.......
If the loco was/is fitted with an independent steam brake, then a slight application of the brake sometimes has the effect of checking the wheels from slipping and the steam also to the cylinders given in a gentle manner can sometimes help a loco to move a heavy load away with minimum wheel slip. We would move a 1,000 ton of coal away from collieries ( loose coupled wagons with steam brake only locos) ie J26 or Q6 locos though now and again a B16/1 or WD 2-8-0 but vacuum shut off.
It's every 1/4 turn of the drive wheels the piston sets in a different position and vents the opposite steam. it helps draw air through the firebox and makes it burn hotter, so that you can get hotter steam quicker at speed. at low speed the steam pressurizes longer, which cause it to slightly condense in the chamber, the resulting super saturated steam in the cylinder, when it is released into the stack, creates that booming note you are hearing., not unlike a shotgun blank, but not as instantaneous.
This sharp exhaust beat is synonymous with the 38 class. They have a very distinctive exhaust. You may be interested to know that in the last few weeks, the overhauled boiler of 3801 has been in steam and it won’t be too long before she is back in operation.
I've ridden behind two American 4-8-4 Northerns, and they produce this same sharp shotgun exhaust. If you have ever ridden behind the Spokane, Portland, and Seattle Railway (SP&S) 700 or the world-famous Southern Pacific Daylight 4449, then you'll know what I'm talking about!
The Struggle Is Real!.... That Loco Gone Need A Trip To The Roundhouse For Some Much Needed Maintenance,...She Spinning The Hell Out Of Them Drive Wheels👍👍👍
its amazing how the crew didn't give up they deserve medals for there efforts
How would they give up? They’d be stuck lol.
wow yes, so brave and strong!!!!!! Our heroes!!
As a U.S. locomotive engineer qualified on steam, I was very lucky to have been invited to ride this locomotive during their Long Lunch excursion from Sydney in 2000. My wife was competing as a member of the United States Equestrian Team during the 2000 Sydney Games and the excursion took place on her one day off which permitted me the time off to ride. This is a wonderful locomotive and the entire crew were very welcoming. It was a fantastic trip to Australia and I am grateful for the warm and friendly welcome we received.
i love how sharp and crisp the exhaust beats sound.
Overpressure! I was afraid he was going to blow it up!
richardscathouse, steam locomotives have a safety valve that pops when the locomotive exceeds a safe boiler pressure. The sharp exhaust beats are largely to do with the reverser and throttle being open or closed, mostly depending on the situation (in this case, battling a steep grade with a loaded train).
richardscathouse nothing to do with overpressure, the safety valves would sort that. Just the shape of the blast pipe that’s making the racket.
The ‘Nooga Railfanmar
The valves were set by one of the best in the business.
There is nothing like seeing pure power and stressed metals pulling tons of weight as friction the area of a small coin fails.
tomtalk24 that’s one was to say it
the PSI of that single coin contact patch is what, 5 tons? (I have no idea)
as everything is being digital and solid state, people came to appreciate mechanical thing now
I think some people like steam loco. They do not see only stressed metals pulling tons of weight.
Ironically the friction area of a small coin offers significant reduction of rolling resistance versus conventional rubber tires
Engine: Almost There...........
(Slips)
Engine: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!
This made me laugh way too much
Wolf 3019 2:42
Bravo! No clickbait, no music. Nice!
NASCAR Martinsville 4.. See me ?. I know a few things about race car drivers.
Absolutely!
(You and I have the same sense of quality, I think.🙃)
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Yeah but that's one sexy engine
@@yixnorb5971 Yep. Green was an odd color in the US.
I always find steam trains to be a lot more entertaining to watch than fast electric trains
Steam engines have that whimsical trait electric transmission just doesn't have, taming a stallion is way more spectacular than dealing with a draft horse.
The fact you can control torque of an electric engine with power electronics is that's what makes it both reliable and bland in the end (unless you like the sound of power regulators, check here for reference ruclips.net/video/0tDOVwVVBKY/видео.html ).
Takes a huge amount of work and trouble to keep a steam locomotive running as compared to electric or diesel, but they are a thing of mechanical beauty.
The sound of Steam engine is so fascinating...I love them since my childhood
@@thafff
TRAXX is a powerfull beast compare to steam weaklings...
@@WadcaWymiaru Not only it is powerful, but its power is way easier to harness.
I’m not really into trains but there’s something really satisfying about watching and listening to a steam locomotive work.
I can't respect you enough for the great work you have done properly documenting this. I felt like I was there.
I Love to hear the sound when the wheels are slipping on the rails like this one was. Old school railroading in my book. Thanks for a very good video. (Mississippi gulf coast, USA).
This is amazing footage! Not only because it shows how beautifully 3801 has now been restored, but also to show the sheer power of this magnificent, Australian-built piece of engineering! Incredible to think that she's been around since 1943. (As a bonus, I was born in Young, so this footage has some personal significance as well.) Thank you so much for sharing!
I agree, 3801 definitely looks better today than it did in this video. Can’t wait to see people like this getting out and filming it more, you used to only be able to find videos from people who dragged a massive camera and tripod to a station platform and now you see groups of people filming with everything from DSLRs to iPads
I was born in 1943, 3801 looks a lot better than i do...
That was incredible fast thinking engineers to put sand on the tracks a number of things could have gone wrong there where very lucky thanks for the video 👍🇺🇸
Great video. Sound is superb. I have done this before: hand sanding in the rain, 1: 40 grade, sharp curves, and rusty head on the rail. The rain makes the rust particles from the spinning wheels into a slippery paste. The sharp curves that much harder to drag the train around. So much momentum is lost once the train reaches the curved and graded track. The crew did well here getting her over the bank.
Its a mixture of fun and frustration! Nice 8w in profile pic, healsville unit? I wish i still had my 6w :(
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I love the no diesel helper like here in the USA you would have a diesel helper, here you have to make it on your own merit.
I find it amazing that a steel wheel sitting on a steel rail can ever get enough friction to move at all.
Maybe some sort of tyre could be put on the wheels for more traction.
Simon Tay Utterly useless. Not only would the rubber fail super early on, but the speed of a trail would be significantly reduced.
@@calebcurfman4415
I would agree at high speed but would also mention that the Montréal metro system uses rubber tyres. Smoother ride. Don't know about other metro systems.
@@georgeknowles5327 Metro trains can be lighter though. Main line trains are usually much heavier.
Another problem with rubber tires is that they reduce the efficiency. Steel wheels/tires have very low rolling resistance.
@@Santibag
Yes, I suppose that they're not much heavier than a bus.
Amazing how the workers handled this situation, I can't imagine it was their first time doing it. I suspect part of the problem was because they were running the loco backwards so only 4 out of 6 driving wheels where getting sand since the sand shoots are located on the front of the wheel.
Sander spout is located in front of the first driven pair on these locomotives. Running in reverse it can't sand for drive traction. I'm not familiar with the station locations so maybe it originally had a turntable. Or the locomotives would enter in reverse so they could go up the grade forwards.
@@Cragified Couldn't they have gone back downhill and sanded the tracks while doing so, then gone back uphill again, gaining momentum?
So MUCH power!
Just the traction thing.
Incredible how much torque.
Smoke them tires like nothing.
Não entendi,a tal Lacomotivas?
Não anda ,Nada!
Só faz Barulho?
Parece trem da R.f.f.
2:32 It's very neat to see the fires intensity synchronising with the exhaust blasts.
great video, really shows how affective a little sand can be
The little engine that almost could't.
I'd like some sand
I'd like some sand
I'd like some sand
I'd like some sand
lol
Loco was build by Ankin Skywalker...he HATE the sand!
One thing about steam locomotives THEY NEVER QUIT
That was absolutely fascinating. Well filmed from angles that really showed the viewer what was going on. Thanks for posting.
When I was a kid in Tasmania, we had a rail line through our farm on a short but steep grade. When it was really wet they used to often have to split the train. We were a couple of miles from Scottsdale.
Man, Australia has some beautiful streamlined engines
It still blows my mind that something so heavy is still powerful enough to spin its wheels like that. Steam locomotives are amazing. Also, I would hate to have to be that guy with the shovel. One wrong move and let's just say a new shovel isn't gonna be the only new thing you need.
welcome to the world of no traction becasue no sand wet rails and a hill equal not a good time
This is the perfect example of what we have lost in the age of modern diesel trains... steams trains are just so much more amazing to look at, very well designed, and overall just beautiful works of art. If we had designed diesels to at Least LOOK like steam trains in a way, then maybe I would like them more. (I feel the same about the way classic cars look compared to modern cars, classic cars always look so much cooler.)
My maternal grandfather was a steam engine driver up until the late 60's, he would have loved to see and hear this as do I.
The movement of those pistons was so satisfying
Excellent Great catch and video Thanks for sharing your work!
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@@sunderdass9893 you ok?
Looks very familiar. I worked in the Norfolk Southern (US) shops. Sometimes on-track equipment would stall, and we couldn't get them in/out of the shops. So, like this video, we, too, took a box of sand and spread it under the wheels so as to get moving. We, too, had steam excursion engines, most notably NW 611. I also got to work with this engine.
nice videography to catch the wheelslip there. Seriously interesting, even kinda fun to watch. Something makes me doubt it was fun for the crew, though.
The amount of torque on display here is just insane, i can only imagine how hard it must be to control such amount of power
This reminds me of most of my childhood. As we live on the Liverpool to Manchester Railway, the section through Whiston, which is between Huyton and Rainhill, where the Rainhill Trials took place is a gradient, our back garden was twice the height of the trains, many of which would have to stop right underneath us. The sound and the vibrations would go through you, but the desire to stay and watch was stronger than the fear of the noise..
Excellent video, shows good teamwork. The Engineer knower what he doing, and his crew know their stuff. Maybe, a double header lashed back to back would have made this excursion go a little less stressful. But that life of the railroad, the good with the less than good, but never bad.
The Driver has great response to wheel slip and a feel for the grip and control of the power...most of the time...does concern they are digging sand from the bank that holds them up...:-) Great Footage
Sadly, I disagree. The driver DOESN'T have a great response. After the fourth time with the wheels spinning out, he should've simply got the train moving, ..then let it slowly chuff upward. He's mostly having trouble because he's trying to build speed and momentum, and there's simply not enough friction available to do that.
WHAT VALIANT EFFORT. IT MAKES ONE FEEL AS THOUGH 3801 IS REALLY A LIVING THING.
I grew up in Cessnock in the Hunter Valley. The coal was still moved by steam trains - from memory, well into the late 70's - and on cold winter mornings you could often hear the trains slipping on the tracks, along with the somewhat eerie sound of the train whistle. Wonderful machines. Not everything about progress is good.
I worked at the SRA of NSW in Newcastle in the 1980's when 3801 was doing weekend runs. she would have to use the triangle between Broadmeadow/Islington and Hamilton and would be controlled by the signal box I was a Signalman at, ( Woodville junction ) It was glorious in full flight and throwing the levers to switch 3801 onto the main line involved quite a few tough lever pulls!
I like how when the wheels spin, the train wobbles a little. Kinda makes me think of a person trying not to fall over on ice xD
I agree. She's trying her best!
Hahaha didnt saw it intill your comment
During my childhood days, I too used to see how the engine used to struggle with wheel slips. The staff used to pour sand over the tracks to facilitate the engine for a smooth hauling. It's a trill even today to watch the steam engine. The Rhythematic noice it makes during it's travel is so mesmerizing. One has to feel it.
That's pretty much what it takes to get me up a flight of stairs, these days.
Looked sort of like Biden climbing stairs...
lol
I rebuild a pumping hand car, one day an elderly lady, when she was young lived near a train line where a hand car would go by. So I gave her a ride sitting on the end and gave her a trill of her life and gave her something to remember for the rest of her life. She was in her 80's.
Live life & Carry on!
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My respects to that dude, I would've pissed myself getting that close to the wheels.
Why not? The machine is slow, but powerfull
@@wdowa94 it's dangerous also , how it immediately rotates fastly, it can Crush any human being easily.
when I was a kid, we still had steam locomotives, grandpa would take us to the station to show the locomotives. Standing near the wheels, sometimes steam would be released (i guess there is a valve near the wheels), and I would run away scared 🤣🤣🤣
Great Video . What a " Battle Royal " . Bravo Zulu to the Crew . Power not an issue . Too MUCH . And the Old Girl sounds CRISP .
Old Henry, he was giving it all he had.
That exhaust bark is so awesome. Reminds me of Nickle Plate Road 765.
Yep! It sure does! I'd say that SP&S 700 and SP 4449 are pretty darn loud too!
Every rail fan's dream.to see and feel the steam engine and the power it packs is awesome..my suggestion is to use sand bags in these difficult terrains and avoid the nightmare.hope my suggestion is taken into consideration
Even the mighty struggle at times. Great video.
Great video, incredible effort for that locomotive!
I remember this so well, and so will all those other kids.
We lived on the railway line and knew most of the engineers and firemen, the freight trains came through every day most of the year and had trouble climbing the grade where we lived.
A flat penny on the line was a good trade item at school.
We always got a long whistle from the engineers when they went past.
I'd give everything to go back to those days.
5:50 ....absolutely close to tipping point!! Firebox about to melt, steam shell about to burst, cranking gear about to splinter....such palpable mechanical and thermal tension!!! I have just participated in the making of an epic 3801 movie....kudos Dvd
aww waht a awesome sound i love it is life, it is so strong
Every engineers worst enemy: a soft drizzle.
Soft drizzle is nothing compared to wet leaves on the track
@@lonewolf2156 True. At least that season is pretty limited in time. Here in sweden they have cut down the trees along the lines to prevent them from falling over the OHLE and a positive side effect is that we seldom get leaves on the tracks at all. :) I only ride on the northern parts of the system so I don´t know how it is in the south though...
in the UK the rail service have a excuse for all types of weather.
Very, very true.
turokforever007 The comment is indeed true. If it is going to rain, you want it to pour down. Drizzle, especially on rusty rail makes them very slippery.
Great video all round, thank you very much!
Fact of the day: if a steam engine is heading a train,you know it will put on a good show
rumors are that they are still trying
I don't know much about trains but I would say a very skilled engine driver was driving that train.👍
This video is awesome. Thanks for the great sound. I think I can, I think I can! Reminds me of Norfolk & Western J-611 both today and when I was a kid.
That's sound so very therapeutic
Serie C38 4-6-2 de NSWGR diseñada por Harold Young en 1943. La 3801 se conserva en el Museo del Transporte de NSW, Thirlmere. Espectaculares imagenes estimado Rock Solid. Thanks for shared.
I like to See Work with steam machine.
A beautifull Video.
Greetings fromm Germany
Those 38's certainly weren't designed to run in reverse very much with the sanders placed for mainly forward running.
That´s it. You can see the sand get down to the weels, but on the wrong side 🙄
@@TheKalle45 you can still use it to drop sand but you'll have to wait a bit until the centre axle hits it
Especially this one which is bulletnose streamlined...the only restored one of its' class.
Such an Amazing Footage of an Engine struggling.
excellent capture. i've sean that happen one before but on narrow gauge. well done team.
Awesome work on capturing this moment in time.
2:42 bet he greased the track at this spot so he could get this footage xD
The dudes just laying sand on the tracks and spots an empty 44 gallon drum of lube on the side of the track
Weirdly enough, “gunzel sabotage” actually contributed to a fatal accident involving this very locomotive in 1990. It is thought that handbrakes may have been applied by passengers on a steam special causing the train to wheel slip and stall on Cowan bank. The sand applied by the loco caused the track circuits to malfunction and the following inter urban train was given a wrong side green aspect and subsequently plowed into the back of the special.
@@Jerram89 oh the Cowan bank disaster, my pop and dad were in the cab of 3801 when it happened. They were in the cab because my pop used to drive 3801 until 2008, when I was born. He sadly passed away earlier this year...
Пробуксовка 😁
@@thatonec_set3730 may he rest in peace and my condolence for his passing
love steam trains, remind me of being a kid, the noise is lovely...
What a battle. And recorded. Ye har. Hand laying samd what a contest
Notice how shiny and well-polished the rail heads are
Long lasting wheels and rails spells the weakness of poor traction. It hasn't changed much either. I remember as a daily commuter any number of times sliding past the stations in poor wx conditions.
I bet this one won't run backwards ever again.
At least not uphill!! But if you have a pass and no way to turn the engine around, you do your best. Simply brilliant video.
Poor old train does not deserve the struggle. It's already put it's years in. Retire it and let it stand proud as a piece of history that people can climb thru and look at first hand.
@Minecraft777 That is awesome. When it was chugging so hard, it reminded me of myself and trying to breathe during an asthma attack so I felt so bad for it. I know, that's silly to say the least.
Every body get out and push.
My doctor has forbidden me to push.
You shall never come out again.
good idea
Ronnie Lobello Okay, One, Two, Three push!!! Ha ha ha ha
On the way down, it will be great though
When I hear a steam locomotive chugging, all I hear is “ I think I can, I think I can, I think I can” Probably a side affect of my kid watching too much Thomas the tank engine. Lol
I think of "The Little Engine That Could" myself.
it's a fine line between pleasure and pain.
Such an incredible example of pure power.
I can feel the torque of the engine. A little more traction would make the job easier
That's what I love about old tech. New tech is easy, safe and tries to be pretty. Old tech can barely get its job done, but it does, and it's a marvel to behold. I'd love to work on an old train that has to climb the same hill everyday. Breaks down and whines and gets every muscle in its body steaming hot. But never fails. Everyday. For the rest of your life. Total bliss.
Damn hobo's greased the rails again to hop the train! :)
blame shoestring
I've heard that actually happened, to make it easier to hop a freight...
@@haroldwilkes6608, whenyou have the opportunity, watch the 1973 movie "Emperor of the North Pole" with Lee Marvin & Ernest Borgnine. The hobos did it in the movie.
@@ernestanderson3726 Darn, I've seen that movie (not lately) and had forgotten that part. Thanks for the reminder.
An excellent video - so pleased you were there to record this!
“I told you Richard, drinking backwards never works.”
Very skilled and patient engineer on a difficult pull.
Now that's what I call Stack TALK of one of Australia's Super Power!
Excellent footage.
You can't deny steam or ice, amazing
I think all adds to a great display of this train.
I just couldn't do that to the engine! All it needs is a bit more patience and another 100 yards of dry sand...
I love trains it.s nice vidéo iam SNTF from algeria thank.s for this vidéo
well done old girl! That railway needs a turntable OR sanding equipment fitted to the tenders if they are going to run tail first!
Love to see the steam engines in action...makes my heart skip a beat. 😳I saw the old Chessie Steam Special on a couple of runs...got to stand above the stack on the cat walk and was able to catch many aromas before she headed out.🥰
This is what a steam burnout sounds like...awesome...
One of my earliest memories is watching, what I now know to be a D57 or D58, with its Standard Goods
Valley Heights banker, struggling up the 1 in 30 grade of Boddiington Hill (in the Blue mountains) in the wet.
The chuff...chuff... chuff.... chuff...chuff, chuff,chuff, chuff of 3801 in this clip brought it all back so clearly.......
If the loco was/is fitted with an independent steam brake, then a slight application of the brake sometimes has the effect of checking the wheels from slipping and the steam also to the cylinders given in a gentle manner can sometimes help a loco to move a heavy load away with minimum wheel slip. We would move a 1,000 ton of coal away from collieries ( loose coupled wagons with steam brake only locos) ie J26 or Q6 locos though now and again a B16/1 or WD 2-8-0 but vacuum shut off.
such an interesting video, thank you for uploading this. I'm from a country that trains are non-existent so this is super fun to watch
Excellent. Man and machine overcoming the elements, with great teamwork. great sound too. Thanks for sharing
Wow that exhaust bark sounds like gunshots, have never seen a steam locomotive that sounds like that.
That sounds nothing like gunshots.
I was thinking the same thing, very sharp note
It's every 1/4 turn of the drive wheels the piston sets in a different position and vents the opposite steam. it helps draw air through the firebox and makes it burn hotter, so that you can get hotter steam quicker at speed. at low speed the steam pressurizes longer, which cause it to slightly condense in the chamber, the resulting super saturated steam in the cylinder, when it is released into the stack, creates that booming note you are hearing., not unlike a shotgun blank, but not as instantaneous.
Yeah it sounds like the world's worst machine gun, awful
@@oliverbendt3104 Why do you have a problem with such a beautiful sound?
Until the tracks get all slippery again and those wheels start spinning. Awesome video.
It's like the children's story "The Little Engine That Could."
Wow I had no idea that sand would have such a huge impact on traction. Amazing stuff
That sharp steam barking sound doesn’t sound good. Would hate to think this is causing stress and damage
This sharp exhaust beat is synonymous with the 38 class. They have a very distinctive exhaust. You may be interested to know that in the last few weeks, the overhauled boiler of 3801 has been in steam and it won’t be too long before she is back in operation.
I've ridden behind two American 4-8-4 Northerns, and they produce this same sharp shotgun exhaust. If you have ever ridden behind the Spokane, Portland, and Seattle Railway (SP&S) 700 or the world-famous Southern Pacific Daylight 4449, then you'll know what I'm talking about!
After watching this video so many times, I'm asking how I missed your comment.
@@bigkiwimike sehq.
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Great video, thanks.
I am surprised that there is no rear sanding facility, even a crude funnel and pipe to manually pour a bag of sand from the cab
the thing is that these engines were built to drive forward, now they need sometimes to drive backwards because most of the turntables are gone...
The Struggle Is Real!.... That Loco Gone Need A Trip To The Roundhouse For Some Much Needed Maintenance,...She Spinning The Hell Out Of Them Drive Wheels👍👍👍
Lovely locomotive . style reminds me of Merchant Navy / West country class , green , box pock wheels etc ?