Iwata Kiwami W50-136BGC & Meiji 1.2 Finer Spot Unboxing & Patern Test Mini Micro Spray Guns
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Two superb little micro sprayguns that pack a punch, will be getting round to uploading videos using these two soon, cheers 👍
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What I like on your videos is that you take the trouble to find out if parts are swappable with other guns. For the professional viewer, ( I’ve been a smart repairer for 25 years) who has a collection of different guns , that is valuable info as being able to swap out certain parts and the flexibility of different spray pattern etc on guns means you can use some to repair or refresh others and it’s often the case that buying a gun is much cheaper than buying individual items . Thankyou.
Hi Mate, Thank you for watching 👍
I really enjoy looking at the interchangeably of different components on gun's, often things like tips are marked differently but are, in fact, the same, I think it's sometimes a way of manufacturers being able to sell the same thing twice 😂, cheers buddy 😀
I work for a Japanese company Pete and the engineering is spot on bud well made etc
Hi Dean, yes, I stick to Japanese cars and bikes these days, reliable and well made 👍
Nice video Pete, both very nice well built guns I bet they will both perform very well with paint I should imagine with very slight different applications in mind.
Hi Steve, yes, the Meiji is a good micro mini gun, the Iwata is a man in boys clothes. a little canon and a real surprise to me, cheers mate, hope you're well 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Yes the Meiji was my favourite out them both not to sure why though 😁 but both very nicely made guns from what I can see. I’m very well thank you, been a little tired due to work and standby has been hectic as well so not been up to much of late ☹️ hopefully do something with my wheel today and get the filling somewhere near done, I’m just frustratingly slow 😅. Hope your all ok as well mate keep the nice informative videos coming.
Hello Pete , those two look like very nice additions to your collection. As I mentioned on Instagram I have two of the Iwata W50’s in my watch list but they aren’t the Kiwami models and I can only find them in a 1.2 tip , they’re list as the B-sho model W50 124 BPG , and I must say I’m tempted to try one out
Hi Roger, this one is a little more of everything compared to the 124 BPG, as far as I know anyway, it's a little hose, the red tank on my instergram was done with this first time out, it was absolutely sublime, unfortunately I had already finished my top 12 mini gun video otherwise it would have had to be a top 14 video 😂, still, hopefully there we be other top video along in which it will show
@@peteshobbies5383 I think you did a really good job of that top 12 mini guns. If you do another top 10 or 12 or whichever number of guns you list could you please make comment on overspray please
Yes mate, I will do 👍
Hi Pete, another great informative video. Just wanted to ask where you purchased the guns and perhaps provide a link. Thanking you in advance... Sal
Thank you Sal, I've put a link in the description, they have an ebay site as well but i buy off Instagram as it's a bit cheaper, they have just gone on holidays for a week so response may be patchy until there back
@@peteshobbies5383 also not looking for the finest atomisation. So a 1.4 to 1.8 is enough I think.
@@skrefurbishedinteriors If your talking 1.4 or larger there is little choice in the smaller guns, only Sata 4400B and the Iwata AZ4 go larger
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks again will give the iwata az4 ago 👍
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Very nice looking guns Pete, have to say that I'm surprised by the quality of the Meiji as it does look better than the Iwata, looking forward to seeing the review mate 🙏👍
Cheers John, the Meijis are head and shoulders above anything I've come across, real little masterpieces of engineering, it's a shame really because i was hoping i wouldn't like them as it always cost money when you like something, as you will know mate 😉😁😂👍
Yeah I know exactly what you are saying Pete, at least the Meiji guns are not Sata money 😂😨👍
Luckily they aren't although there Finer Core is getting there 👍
Hi Pete, love your reviews! My question is do the needles pull straight out of the back like the lph80? Thank you
Hi David, yes they do, the video link below is of the LPH50 & LPH80, the Kiwami W50 has the same body shell as the LPH50 so things are interchangeable,
ruclips.net/video/4r4fbSad-I8/видео.html
Nice guns mate
Thanks buddy 👍
Pete how would you rank the upol 2084 hs clear regarding gloss and durability ?
Hi Mitchell, we don't get that in the UK, we only get 2080 or 2081, there is a new one out called Maximum but i haven't tried that yet, I suspect the 2084 will be one of them but under a different code. The Upol clears I've used have been good for gloss retention and durability including UV protection, there is no doubt they are harder to spray, i have used them for years so get on well with them but recently i have been trying others and they are so much more forgiving
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks for your help on the upol clear. I have been seeking to find a better clear coat system. I have been using upol 2:1 and yes it's not forgiving. It lays flat for me but occasionally a few small spots where it looks a bit dull or cloudy ? Milky maybe ? Don't know how else to describe it. Almost like solvent boil without the pop.
@@mitchellferre1652 Normally cloudy is over application or the gun has got a bit close on that particular section, sometimes under application can do the same thing but normaly you will get a some peel in those areas, do you warm your clear up, i get mine to around 30c or 86f as it really helps it flow out
@@peteshobbies5383 I would say over application on my part caused it. I heat the clear only when it's colder 65f or under.
Have you any experience with the Meiji F55-G? Seems slightly smaller and perhaps a closer match to the LPH50. Really enjoy your reviews.
Thanks Andrew, no I haven't, the LPH50 and F55-G share the same bodies as these two in this video, it's only the tips, air cap and marking that are changed so build quality will be very similar which in the case of the Meiji is the best there is from an engineering point of view, as far as i know they do a 0.5 and 0.8 tip, I suspect it will be very similar to the LPH50 in performance, which is very good indeed
Do you rate the 3m or what are your thoughts on it? Value for money as a whole kit? Thanks.
Looking for a new entry level gun mainly for furniture spraying at home but I don't want to skimp too much and end up buying another soon after. I have a 50l compressor
Hi buddy, I've never used the 3m gun but i know people that have them say they are very good, they are not something that appeals to me, I'm from a engineering type background so the use of plastics for a lot of the gun is just not me really but as i say, people do think they are quite good.
It depends what the size of furniture is and the recommended tip sizes for the products you use but i would say you wouldn't go far wrong with a Iwata LPH80 1.2 E4, your compressor will run it ok, they atomise really fine, low overspray and well made
@@peteshobbies5383 hi Pete that was a swift response thanks. Yes I must say when I saw that most of it was plastic ( in this day and age)! I was not impressed hence still looking around. I just upcycle home furniture the biggest piece I do is a sideboard really. I use mainly water based satin paint or chalk paint and water based satin top coat. I will have a look at your recommendation. And I will be re watching the top 12 air spray guns video. Nice one
If you was to buy three dedicated guns for smart repair jobs which three would you choose for primer base and clear coat. Just would like to know your options seen as you get a hold of almost every spray gun known to man lol. Thanks Pete.
Hi mate, yeah, not far off it these day's 😂, If price was no object I would have a cheap ANI GF3 in 1.2 and drill it out to 1.5 for primer, I would have an W300WB 1.0 for base or small clear jobs and a Devilbiss DV1s in 1.0&1.2 as it comes with 2 tips and use the 1.2 nearly all the time for clear, if there was a fair number of full panels involved regularly i would drop the W300WB and replace it with a Pro Lite S (sri pro lit) in 1.4 TE5 cap as it a good clear gun which delivers a good amount of material so makes full panels easier, DV1S is a bit slow, or a full size gun for bigger jobs for clear like the Sagola Xtreme 4600
@@peteshobbies5383 nice choices it's my 40th birthday soon and I fancy a few new guns the dv1s is a definite for me but have been sitting in the saddle when it comes to a base and primer gun. I was thinking devilbiss flg5 for primer but I reckon its probably going to be a too wider fan. I own a ANI gf3 and have drilled a 1.8mm hole in a nozzle as I bought every tip size they had and spraygunsdirect sent me a extra nozzle tip out. not had time to try it yet though its been sat in its box since. The 1.2 tip does spray bang on for that gun. I'm currently using two sri pro's old ones one for base one for clear both in 1.0's one with hv5 and others got te5 on it. Also use the 3m accuspray in a 1.8 for primer its served its purpose but old now and not a very good gun. Also have a gti pro lite with that I use for bigger jobs with te10 and t110 air caps. Glad you mentioned the guns you did though the iwata may just be the final gun I decide on. 👍 thanks for the reply and the videos you upload.
Your welcome, I really enjoy spraying so to share it with others is enjoyable for me and hopefully all you as well, and because it's not a pressured work environment i can experiment to my hart's content which I know many can't
The FLG5 in a great workhorse, reliable, good finish and not expensive, I used one for 5 years and was very happy with it, it's got a relatively small fan for a full size gun so probably wouldn't be too much overkill in most situations, as far as full size guns go the Devilbiss Gti Pro lite with the TE10 and T110 is a lovely gun and would be my choice if we were thinking about budget, particularly the T110 with a 1.2 tip, really good for a flat finish if that's what's required 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 yes I thought you would be a good man to ask the question seen as your hobby includes sampling different spray guns. You could save me from a disappointing buy.
Ah that's good to know about the flg5. I've also been looking at the iwata Az3 hte-s for primer seen as there is only about five pound between both guns. Which one would you prefer between the two of those guns. Sorry for all the questions promise this is my last.👍
I would definitely go with the Devilbiss, I'm not that keen on the AZ3, as you say, they are more or less the same price and i think the Devilbiss is made better and works better
Thank you Pete for your videos they are very informative. I am looking for a gun but I am total newbie. Would you mind if I do a newbie question? :) Why if a gun can be adjusted to smaller fan someone would buy a smaller tip? why not always buy the biggest as possible? Thank you in advance 😊
Thanks Adolfo, it's a very valid question, most guns will atomise at there best when the fan is on full, you will maybe notice i use a spray gun at full fan most of the time for that very reason, so fans are adjustable but it is always a compromise
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks for the super fast response! Because of your videos I am sold on the idea of buying the w50 with 1.3 tip (new subscriber here btw). My intention is to paint motorcycle parts and rarely car panels, I dont have much budget so What you think about having this gun as a all in one solution? In what scenarios would you recommend me the lph50 over the w50? it seems like the w50 is more versatile for about the same price....or I am totally wrong? Thanks again Pete! you are an awesome help!
The W50 1.3 is more of everything compared to the LPH50 so is better for bigger areas, the LPH50 is available in 3 sizes and is more suitable for smaller areas so if you mainly doing bike tanks and farings it's probably better to go for the w50 1.3, for example the LPH50 is much better for smaller scale models than the W50 1.3, thanks for the sub btw 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I will be doing everything with this gun because I can't afford to have more than one :) I hope is a good all in one gun. One question pls. Could I test it with water? or it is a bad idea? (I saw you test it with thinner, I guess must be a reason for that...)
@@adolfocano8690 water is fine, i use thinners as it drys much quicker so easy to put away fast, don't leave it with water in it as it can corrode the aluminium over time, keep in mind if you are spraying water or thinners it is thinner that what you will normally spray so you will need to lower the pressure or the fan pattern will split
Hi Pete, I read thru the comments and you discussed the AZ3 which I use for primer and sealer 1.8 and 1.3. What would be your top gun choice for that application . I know I'd need two needle nozzle sets. I was considering the Kiwami4 series but would like your opinion. Thanks again
If you can stretch to the Kiwami4 I would definitely go with that, of course they are full size gun's but sounds like you don't mine that as they are something you were thinking about, the AZ4 is good but not as good as the Kiwami4 BA4-J set up, having said that I've recently had a problem with one of my Kiwami4s with air leaking after very little use, the third Iwata to do it, I will sort a video of it out for RUclips so people can see and what i did to all but cure it, there's a video of it leaking on my instergram if you want to see what i mean 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 thanks Pete. It must be a kiwami thing because I have the lph400, w77 siphon, w101, and now the lph80 and never have so much as a hiccup out of any of them.
The other two I've had do it is a W101 and a LPH80, the Kiwami4 was just the latest to do it, no other make of gun I've got has ever done it, very odd
@@peteshobbies5383 can't wait for the video.
Im really glad you told me,I was all set to pull the trigger on that kiwami4
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Thank you buddy 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 You're always very most welcome Buddy 😍🙏😍
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Blimey, i was racking my brain thinking what's he on about😂, got there in the end though, thanks mate👍
I know you don't use them, Pete, but do you know if it's possible to fit a PPS adaptor to the W50?
Hi Lee, sorry, only just seen this, for some reason it's not in my feed but comes up on the bottom of the page as something i didn't answer 🤔, very odd, the answer is yes, there is a PPS adaptor to fit the side cup Iwatas and Meiji guns, i have one, can't remember the number and I'm away so can't check but they do make one
@@peteshobbies5383 Thanks, Pete - and no worries about the delay.
I'm figuring this could be the answer for spraying under bumpers (something I have to do at least once a week). Rotate the cup 180° and hold the gun upside down.
@@leebroderick9668 Yes, the rotation of the cup is one on the biggest attributes of the side cup, it can spray upside down without problems which is difficult for a top cup for obvious reasons
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