I agree however when you start using it for Real Towing you can feel a difference between less Rubber between Asphalt and Rim. F Rated can help a bit but still a ton of roll when Loaded Heavy
I absolutely love this truck man I understand yours is a 99 I have a 2000 model I happen to stumble across these videos of yours I am a new subscriber and from the looks of it you're just a good old country boy just like myself thank you for sharing and have a blessed day everyone
Thanks man! Yeah I’ve been doing it that way for a while and know quite a few others who do it and we’ve never had an issue! But do at your own risk of course
I'm a Process Engineer for a global tire manufacturer. I am in the earthmover spectrum... however I am trained in architecture and tire design. My best friends are tire designers for passenger car, light truck and earthmover tires. If you look at your video.. the pressure from the outer tire is changing the contact patch. The load of the tire is held from the air cushion between the rim and the contact patch of the tire... I will tell you this.. I have been in my profession for ten years... death by poor decisions by tire selection vs application is a very real thing... so much so lawyers make millions a year from it. You will be responsible for any failures that cause harm or death to someone... bora two inch spacers are a must. Sidewall rubber compound are typically only designed for sidewall marking that are required by federal law and per the manufacturer. Rapid Air loss or clevage is likely once you load the truck... simply due to the sag in the sidewalls will not be able to flex. Don't let a $250 fix define the rest of your or someone else's life! Looks great btw!
Causation doesn't mean correlation. Just because you have been lucky and nothing bad has happened to you doesnt mean its not bad. This is a terrible plan for anyone like the guy above said its very hard for the tire to do its job like this
You’re an idiot for not running a spacer and because you acknowledge it in the video you are no longer negligent, it would be considered willful misconduct. Hope you are never involved in an accident with this setup.
What did it do for your rpm on the highway? I've got 4.10 gears too and run the interstate constantly. I've been thinking about going up to a 35 myself
When you ran the 2" spacers on your old set of 35's that touched at the bottom what psi were you running in them. Awesome truck man, I've got 255/85r16 right now and want to put 315/75r16 soon.
@@floridafenceland1137 oh that's pretty up there considering the max inflated is 65psi. I was thinking of going with 2" spacers to have the least amount sticking out, but I may have to go with 2-1/2". Thank you.
Since the post of the video (2years ago) have you had any issue with the tires making contact 100% of the time? I’m running 285/70-17 and I feel like I have contact 100% and I don’t want to run a spacer.
@@floridafenceland1137 thanks yeah I'm just curious if I'd be able to have the rear inner modified to move the tires in instead of the outers out with spacers.
Are those toyos? I am thinking of doing the same thing for my 2017 duramax high country but I’m not really sure if the back tires rubbing against each other would mess up the tires?
At the time I bought a used intake horn that desperately needed painted, so I painted it that blue color and then my valve cover was awful looking so I painted it blue to match, but then I got a new intake horn and hated the blue valve cover
Ok I have a 2500 that I'm converting to a 3500 my axles that I'm putting in have 410 gears and the stock tire is 215. Lol so I'm trying to figure out what size tire to put on it. Now after you have ran this size tire what is your top speed and what is your rpm at 60 with this size tire. Just so I can get a idea what mine will be like. Thanks bud.
Wow that is a big difference! Ok. I know what I see on the internet people go way over board on stuff and about the tires cant touch but touching 100 percent of the time kinda makes since. But if you and your buddy's aren't having any issues I'll try it. I tow a camper and I'm going to have a 25 foot gooseneck to pull my tractor to different jobs. But I swapped my truck to a 5 speed and my donor truck is a 3500 and I really love these trucks in a dually! So I'm making mine one. Your truck looks awesome man! And thank you for the advice
you have 4.10s or3.53s? you tow/haul much? manual or auto trans, wouldnt mind a set of 35s on my rig, but i have 3.53s and regular put 6000lbs or more of payload on the truck and/or pull 16,000lbs behind it, think ill settle for 33s/ 255/85r16s
Is it lifted at all or just stock height? And I feel you with my dads 01 Cummins 5spd 4x4. Looks like yours but white. Js I think it looks awesome with ranch hand bumper.
Did you know in 1999 dodge sent 2 dodge 2500 and 2 dodge 3500s to be tested for military use. They had a suspension setup that was made to make the truck sit levelish going on the side of a incline. But sadly they did not come through. They were also diesel-electric hybrids also
Clean truck. I’ve seen some of my weldin partners runnin their rigs with the tires touchin. And we go all over the country. So I don’t see a problem with it. Me on the other hand, I’ve got the Bora 2” spacers. lol And the damn thing busted on me. Goin 95 mph down the road after layoffs.. damn near killed 40 Bikers goin to sturgis. 💀🤣 my helper and I looked at each others as the duals bounced on by us, into oncoming bikers.
The trail blade is an attractive tire for the price, but everybody I know who has used them say they can’t be balanced right and you’ll have awful vibrations and what not. I personally test drove a lbz truck I was looking at buying and it had those trail blades on it, and the truck rode awful, bouncy, shaky, all over the road.. can’t say it was all the tires doing it, but I ended up passing on the truck cause I didn’t wanna buy a truck and immediately spend $1500 or so on good tires.
Yeah I totally agree with you, I had a few buddies give me crap about it but honestly it balanced really well, I think only 2 oz if that, and it rides really nice so far, brand new for 100$ hard to say no, if I get 6 months out of it that’s more than money’s worth so I’m not worried at all
You can not run those tires like that being so close together. They will blow. And it will suck lol. That outter tire should be sticking out the fender alot more. I ran a 2" on my 2nd gen
@@floridafenceland1137 no disrespect intended but just cause u have gotten away with it DOES NOT make it right. It is not proper. I wouldnt be driving it till u get them spaced. Spacers are cheap
I understand your concern, but also, if this has the same Out come as running spacers, which it does, then it dosent really Matter tbh, I don’t like to run spacers on a truck a I tow with, and Have never had an issue with tires before so that’s why I Choose to run these this way
I’m not arguing, I’m just saying I’m not ok with running 3 inch spacers the rear of a truck I tow with. Not safe, 35x12.5s touch at the bottom with a 2 inch spacer which is way more un safe than what I have going on
The thought process behind not letting dually tires touch is: when your tires heat they do expand. When your tires expand on dually tires that are touching, those two beads could be seeing pressure pushing them off of the seat of the rim. Additionally, your lug nuts and rims will see additional pressure from the heat expansion besides the pressure they are already seeing from sandwiching the two tires together. This could lead to broken lug studs, or cracked rims. Its a “do at your own risk” deal. If you are checking your lugs and tires for issues before your wheel comes off on the road, then youll be safer than the “set it and forget it” guys
Nice truck but the stock wheels are perfect Plus you cant tow with your tires rubbing. Heres mine on stock wheels and smaller tires. ruclips.net/video/iWfJ0v4tLHA/видео.html Bored with a 2nd gen and out of things to do. Wooooah Nelly. These 2nd gen duallys just look good i concerted mine to single rearcwheel on 3rd gen wheels. Its still nice rides way better but not wnd gen dually nice anymore
meaty tires on a dually always looks great! not a dually guy but i appreciate and respect them
I agree man, also not a huge dually guy but I believe they all need meaty tires
Dually's are for workin
Yes sir!
Now that's what kind of wheels you should put on you're truck not no lo pro tires on a massive rim
Yeah no way I’m
Not into that at all
I agree however when you start using it for Real Towing you can feel a difference between less Rubber between Asphalt and Rim. F Rated can help a bit but still a ton of roll when Loaded Heavy
Yeah absolutely
That’s what i’m fuckin sayin. Just bought my dually with these stupid fuel offset 22 inch wheels i’ll have stocks on before the thing gets registered
You are truck
I absolutely love this truck man I understand yours is a 99 I have a 2000 model I happen to stumble across these videos of yours I am a new subscriber and from the looks of it you're just a good old country boy just like myself thank you for sharing and have a blessed day everyone
I like your truck a lot! Man if I were to get my 2nd gen I would have it similar to yours. Thank you for sharing your bad ass truck!
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed!
What a awesome look. Sweet truck
Thank you
Did you ever have any issues with the duallys touching
I got a 3rd gen dually ! Do you think I can put Toyo M/T 37 in on it without lift kit of trimming? Thanks your truck is awesome
I have a reg cab 06 dually...thanks for the input and feed back on your tires and how you run them.....thx.
What size lift are you running? How many inches front and how many inches in the rear?
That's super interesting that you can run the rears like that. But hey, if it works it works! Truck looks great!
Thanks man! Yeah I’ve been doing it that way for a while and know quite a few others who do it and we’ve never had an issue! But do at your own risk of course
What lift do u have on it? Absolutely love this look.
I had to run a 2.5 inch spacer on mine. 2 was not enough. 315/12.5/16
Iam planning on doing it to my 97 dually dodge.
Do you tow much?
All the time
Love the truck,GOD BLESS Y'ALL
Thank you sir!!
I can attest that touching duallys will catch on fire. But everyones mileage varys
I'm a Process Engineer for a global tire manufacturer. I am in the earthmover spectrum... however I am trained in architecture and tire design. My best friends are tire designers for passenger car, light truck and earthmover tires. If you look at your video.. the pressure from the outer tire is changing the contact patch. The load of the tire is held from the air cushion between the rim and the contact patch of the tire... I will tell you this.. I have been in my profession for ten years... death by poor decisions by tire selection vs application is a very real thing... so much so lawyers make millions a year from it. You will be responsible for any failures that cause harm or death to someone... bora two inch spacers are a must. Sidewall rubber compound are typically only designed for sidewall marking that are required by federal law and per the manufacturer. Rapid Air loss or clevage is likely once you load the truck... simply due to the sag in the sidewalls will not be able to flex. Don't let a $250 fix define the rest of your or someone else's life! Looks great btw!
Glad someone said what was needed to be said lol
They’ve been good for me for years and years on tons of different trucks
Causation doesn't mean correlation. Just because you have been lucky and nothing bad has happened to you doesnt mean its not bad. This is a terrible plan for anyone like the guy above said its very hard for the tire to do its job like this
Boom Boom Room thanks for your opinion
You’re an idiot for not running a spacer and because you acknowledge it in the video you are no longer negligent, it would be considered willful misconduct. Hope you are never involved in an accident with this setup.
Is your truck lifted? If so what lift kit
Only an 2 inch level up front!
Great video Mike. I have a 2nd gen and love it!
Beautiful truck
Thank you!
hey do did you run spacers on the inside? or did they clear the springs fine?
No spacers at all
not rubbing in the front control arms?
Did it rub at all? And just a leveling kit?
No rub at all and yes just a level
I have the same setup but mine are spaced in the rear I can check pressure between the rear 2. It’s dangerous you blow when you tow you’ll be bummed
Great truck Mike!
Thank you Ivan!
What did it do for your rpm on the highway? I've got 4.10 gears too and run the interstate constantly. I've been thinking about going up to a 35 myself
When you ran the 2" spacers on your old set of 35's that touched at the bottom what psi were you running in them. Awesome truck man, I've got 255/85r16 right now and want to put 315/75r16 soon.
I don’t remember what Exactly but I usually run 55 in them so probably 55
@@floridafenceland1137 oh that's pretty up there considering the max inflated is 65psi. I was thinking of going with 2" spacers to have the least amount sticking out, but I may have to go with 2-1/2". Thank you.
Since the post of the video (2years ago) have you had any issue with the tires making contact 100% of the time? I’m running 285/70-17 and I feel like I have contact 100% and I don’t want to run a spacer.
How much space do you have between the inner rear tire and the leaf spring?
I can check but I think it’s about 3 inches it’s not even close
@@floridafenceland1137 thanks yeah I'm just curious if I'd be able to have the rear inner modified to move the tires in instead of the outers out with spacers.
These came off a jeep? Are they E range tires?
They were
This looks really good!
What kind of lift did you need to fit those?
All I have is a 2 inch leveling kit, rear end is stock
@@floridafenceland1137 how tall are your rear blocks ?
Factory
@@floridafenceland1137 that looks like a 3 inch lift . Looks great
Are those toyos? I am thinking of doing the same thing for my 2017 duramax high country but I’m not really sure if the back tires rubbing against each other would mess up the tires?
Yes they are toyos, if your worried about it jusy throw a 2 inch spacer between em and you’ll be alright
Ok thanks!
When you had 35" on the stock 16" rim how did that work? Was the tire too wide?
I know this might be a odd question but why did you paint youre valve blue anyway? Id paint the whole engine red cause its a cummins engine
At the time I bought a used intake horn that desperately needed painted, so I painted it that blue color and then my valve cover was awful looking so I painted it blue to match, but then I got a new intake horn and hated the blue valve cover
@@floridafenceland1137 ok I get it now
So those are 35x12.5 on stock rims, did you have to lift it or use a spacer for the duals?
Also yes with the comments.. Tou need a spacer
How was it getting 12.5s to set on 6 inch wide rims?
Good deal bro, mean truck
Thanks man
What do you have for lift on this truck?
Hey bro, i have a question, is the truck lifted or is it like that just with the 17 rims and 35 tires?
It has a 2 inch level kit and that’s all
@@floridafenceland1137 what leveling kit do you have ?
It’s a 2 inch from Amazon
Any need to change the control arms and track bar?
What kinda suspension do you have ?
Stock with 2 inch level in the front
4th gen steelies are da bomb in black
Yes sir!
You have a badass truck make more vids on it
Got a lot coming!!
Those rears will pop
Never had a set pop before
Yea I’m curious how no space works out. Unless you never tow anything.
I tow, no issues
In my state, touching duals won’t pass safety inspection.
Your state doesn’t sound fun
So realistically you couldve gone with 37s and spacers.
These look good. Clean for stock height
Got a Question: Do the tires rub the leaf springs in the rear , , , , and is there any interference with the front turning sharp?
No sir! No rubbing on the springs and no front rubbing
@@floridafenceland1137 Thanks. I have a 4th Gen and I "think" it has even more clearance. Thanks again for the reply. Good video.
I see people do the same setup on 4th gens all the time I think your fine!
What’s the biggest tires I can put on a stock 2nd gen dually ? Stock wheels stock everything … I could do spacers and leveled front if need
If I'm not mistaken the biggest you can go is 35 because you can only use 17 inch rims and that's the highest you can go on 17s. I might be wrong
How does the truck do for fuel milage?
About 16-18 can do better if I really try but average like 18
@@floridafenceland1137 Ok Thanks that's not to bad
Ok I have a 2500 that I'm converting to a 3500 my axles that I'm putting in have 410 gears and the stock tire is 215. Lol so I'm trying to figure out what size tire to put on it. Now after you have ran this size tire what is your top speed and what is your rpm at 60 with this size tire. Just so I can get a idea what mine will be like. Thanks bud.
Ahh I see what your doing, and I haven’t gone to my top speed but I can tell you my 70mph is about 2k rpm when it used to be 2500 on 235s stocks
Wow that is a big difference! Ok. I know what I see on the internet people go way over board on stuff and about the tires cant touch but touching 100 percent of the time kinda makes since. But if you and your buddy's aren't having any issues I'll try it. I tow a camper and I'm going to have a 25 foot gooseneck to pull my tractor to different jobs. But I swapped my truck to a 5 speed and my donor truck is a 3500 and I really love these trucks in a dually! So I'm making mine one. Your truck looks awesome man! And thank you for the advice
How are the Tack on the highway?
Seem fine! Really not too loud at all and very smooth
@@floridafenceland1137 How are your Rpm's??
Need open those tow l mirrors
They are awesome man!
Is your tier size 35/12.50r17
you have 4.10s or3.53s? you tow/haul much? manual or auto trans, wouldnt mind a set of 35s on my rig, but i have 3.53s and regular put 6000lbs or more of payload on the truck and/or pull 16,000lbs behind it, think ill settle for 33s/ 255/85r16s
What type of leveling kit is on that truck
Just. 2 inch in the front!
Git r done boyz!!!
Love the set up!! What is the width of those gen 4 wheels?
They are 17x7!
Nice. I’m interested to know if my 17x6 alcoas will work with these same 35s?!?!
They should!
My dads truck has 3 inch straight pipe and I don't think it is very loud at all.
Did you had to lift it for those 35s ?
I have 33s with a level and want 35s but don’t want to lift it. Just want to know if it will rub.
Yeah just a leveling kit and 35s fit fine no rubbing
The Diesel Ranch thanks!
@@floridafenceland1137 hi there,
Did adding 35s and 2inch level kit affect your towing in any way?
It towed great
Looks good bro just subscribed
Thanks brother
Is it lifted at all or just stock height? And I feel you with my dads 01 Cummins 5spd 4x4. Looks like yours but white. Js I think it looks awesome with ranch hand bumper.
2 inch leveling kit that’s it
Dude I Love your videos I got 35 inch toyo mud tires on my 2nd gen those things will crawl out of anything.
Hell yeah! Great trucks, haven’t had it in the mud yet but I’m interested in seeing how they pull in the mud
Did you ever have any issues running your tires against each other?
Love your truck ! , What lift does it have ?
2 inch level up front stock rear
The Diesel Ranch thanks ! 👍🏼
Of course!
How far are you from Florida vi we have the same truck and I want help froM you
I’m in Florida
Ima have to come see you bro 😎😎
Badass rig bro.just subbed myself dream truck right there.
Thanks brother I appreciate it
Did you know in 1999 dodge sent 2 dodge 2500 and 2 dodge 3500s to be tested for military use. They had a suspension setup that was made to make the truck sit levelish going on the side of a incline. But sadly they did not come through. They were also diesel-electric hybrids also
Never knew that!
@@floridafenceland1137 they failed cause of the auto trans
Nice truck 👍 it looks good keep up the good work 👍👌
Thanks man I appreciate it!
How wide are your wheels ?
7 inch
Do you think I can run those tires of 6 inch or 6.5 inch alcoas ?
I would no problem
Clean truck. I’ve seen some of my weldin partners runnin their rigs with the tires touchin. And we go all over the country. So I don’t see a problem with it. Me on the other hand, I’ve got the Bora 2” spacers. lol And the damn thing busted on me. Goin 95 mph down the road after layoffs.. damn near killed 40 Bikers goin to sturgis. 💀🤣 my helper and I looked at each others as the duals bounced on by us, into oncoming bikers.
Have any trouble with them rubbing/touching?
The rears were touching 100% all the way around fronts never rubbed
@@floridafenceland1137 oh okay I have a 2011 with a 6in lift with 35/12.5/17 with a 2in steel spacer and i was gonna through 39/12.5/17 on it
Should put the front passenger off brand on the inner dually
Sooo….what size are the tires…
Truck looks great with those tires and heck of a deal.
Thanks man! I’m quite happy with it!
I feel like that much sidewall roll would be bad...
It’s been fine no issues
What about spacers? Sorry I posted without seeing the whole video. Love the look.
I might be getting a 1999 dodge ram 1500 with a 360 v8 would you watch if I put a 24 valve with a 6 speed in it?
Nice man sounds like a fun project
I wish somebody made a skinny 35 that would work for towing...
Search 35x10.50r17 there are one or two E rated out there now
Looks awesome! 👏🏼
Thanks man!! Appreciate it
Sexy tires! New to your channel! Just subscribed
Thank you!!
The trail blade is an attractive tire for the price, but everybody I know who has used them say they can’t be balanced right and you’ll have awful vibrations and what not. I personally test drove a lbz truck I was looking at buying and it had those trail blades on it, and the truck rode awful, bouncy, shaky, all over the road.. can’t say it was all the tires doing it, but I ended up passing on the truck cause I didn’t wanna buy a truck and immediately spend $1500 or so on good tires.
Yeah I totally agree with you, I had a few buddies give me crap about it but honestly it balanced really well, I think only 2 oz if that, and it rides really nice so far, brand new for 100$ hard to say no, if I get 6 months out of it that’s more than money’s worth so I’m not worried at all
You can not run those tires like that being so close together. They will blow. And it will suck lol. That outter tire should be sticking out the fender alot more. I ran a 2" on my 2nd gen
Like I said in the video I’ve ran tires this way for a long time with no issues
@@floridafenceland1137 no disrespect intended but just cause u have gotten away with it DOES NOT make it right. It is not proper. I wouldnt be driving it till u get them spaced. Spacers are cheap
I understand your concern, but also, if this has the same Out come as running spacers, which it does, then it dosent really Matter tbh, I don’t like to run spacers on a truck a I tow with, and Have never had an issue with tires before so that’s why I Choose to run these this way
Hub centric spacers are ALOT safer and proven then running touching tires. I'm not gona argue man. Ur mind is made up
I’m not arguing, I’m just saying I’m not ok with running 3 inch spacers the rear of a truck I tow with. Not safe, 35x12.5s touch at the bottom with a 2 inch spacer which is way more un safe than what I have going on
You got a 2nd gen I got 2 square body chevys
I’ve always wanted a square body Chevy
@@floridafenceland1137 well mine are far from being done my 84 1 ton is getting a cummins
@@floridafenceland1137 I see you pulled off the brush guard I like these trucks without the brush guards. But its you're truck
Yeah I got offered a good price for the ranch hand and I wanted a full ranch hand anyways so i sold it but i really don’t mind the stock
Bumpers
@@floridafenceland1137 whould you check out my dodge 1500(its in sad shape poor truck
The thought process behind not letting dually tires touch is: when your tires heat they do expand. When your tires expand on dually tires that are touching, those two beads could be seeing pressure pushing them off of the seat of the rim. Additionally, your lug nuts and rims will see additional pressure from the heat expansion besides the pressure they are already seeing from sandwiching the two tires together. This could lead to broken lug studs, or cracked rims. Its a “do at your own risk” deal. If you are checking your lugs and tires for issues before your wheel comes off on the road, then youll be safer than the “set it and forget it” guys
better crank yr music up couldnt hear it
I ran a dually with no spacers and never had a problem.
Same here brother
In everybody's opinion,nothing is good. Who cares. Nice looking rig big dawg.
Sikk truck
Thanks man!
Nice truck but the stock wheels are perfect
Plus you cant tow with your tires rubbing.
Heres mine on stock wheels and smaller tires.
ruclips.net/video/iWfJ0v4tLHA/видео.html
Bored with a 2nd gen and out of things to do. Wooooah Nelly.
These 2nd gen duallys just look good i concerted mine to single rearcwheel on 3rd gen wheels. Its still nice rides way better but not wnd gen dually nice anymore
Wat the f