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love seeing percy suck at archery. it's such a small part of the books but so accurate to them. it's amazing.
Plays a big part in The Battle Of The Labyrinth
Even though he doesn’t look a lot like Percy, the kid does seem like Percy. His personality it great for him.
Yeah, you can find tons of videos on RUclips that are just compilations of him being the perfect Percy
And the trio all have amazing chemistry together
I agree. I don't really understand why don't they just use hair dye for him though. It seems like a good idea to pick actors on personality first, but stuff like contacts and hair dye seems fairly low effort and a good way to increase the visual accuracy by a lot.
@@SlimeyEmeralds72visual accuracy was quite clearly never there goal lol.
He got Percy's vibes
I do think finding an actual female child actor who is actually as buff as Clarice is supposed to be, sounds really hard.
yeah, but I would've at least tried to cast a girl who was taller and more athletic than the other campers, maybe cast someone a little older than the character is to make sure she's bigger
@@Neutral_TiredThat's the best you could do
@@Neutral_Tiredthats… what they did?
There are some strong children though, even girls that young or younger. Will Tennyson recently made a video with a 10 year old weightlifting girl, they do exist, it’s probably hard to find someone that is simultaneously into acting though
@@Icetea-2000 It’s the acting that’s the catch
I felt the same about chiron until i looked into the actors background and learnt he's like the most qualified person to play chiron. Pro horse rider and at one point ran a summer camp. It's like his whole life was an audition to play chiron!
That is pretty amazing.
They could say that he just has a tan that's been going for centuries.
I dare Disney to do the same with Chinese mythology
What a bunch of bull crap.
@@thehermit8723 i mean there were black people in ancient Greece and Chiron's skin colour is never mentioned in any of the tales he's in so for all we know he could be black in greek mythology. Either way it's a kid show so stop whining it's not worth it.
@@gryfon_gamez8184its easily assumable that he would’ve been white. Majority of Greeks were and are white, the argument that some of them were black and that the race wasn’t specified is a weak argument. The ancient Greeks wouldnt care to manage. He most assembly been white. So it does feel disrespectful to Greek people, but i guess we’ll see how that actor matches when the show comes out.
Rick Riordan said he casted on vibes, and he definitely fits the vibes. I know it would feel better for him to look like Chiron, but I guess this is Ricks chance for Rick to play around with the story. I guess we should blame the movies for not giving us book accurate characters, and now we’re annoyed that a show for a new audience isn’t that book accurate portrayal.
Most of the characters don't look like their book counterparts. Rick did appearance blind casting and looked for the best actors for the job. Also a thing with child actors is there's a lot more important things to consider like experience and ability, how much they feel like the character, and the chemistry they have with the other child actors. I'm pretty sure it was the chemistry which sold Rick on Grover and Annabeth.
Im willingly to forgive them not looking a 1 for 1 with their book counterparts as long as they bring the feel of the characters with obvious more updated things. With Rick being so involved I hope that this rings true. I know a lot of people were disappointed that he was blonde and that Annabeth and Chiron were black (no. Being dissapointed that characters from your favorite series were race swapped is not racist as long as you dont hate on the actors or have that disappointment turn to hate), but after seeing so many trailers and seeing what the actors thoughts were on their characters, I feel like it's in good hands. I am so excited fornthe series premiere next month.
thats what ive been saying. i really think the actors can do great, but it still doesnt feel right that they are different than how they were described in the books. I mean, everyone, and i mean everyone who read the books then watched the movies hated the fact that Annabeth had brown hair in the movies, yet, we're just supposed to go with a complete character change in the show? its a little bit irritating, because camp half-blood has a lot of diversity, and i feel like those characters are undermined a little by changing other characters "for inclusion"
I agree with that 100%. I got into the series a bit later (I was in high school at the time), and Annabeth became my favorite character. When I watched the Mythology Guy’s video comparing the movie (that doesn’t exist) to the books, the comics depicted Annabeth how I felt it should: blonde hair and white skin, so I was a bit disappointed myself to see the race swap.
But I am also willing to give the actress a chance. If she does portray Annabeth how she’s depicted in the books: then I’ll take it.
@@poseidenforceccj2528I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with you, I just wanna point out that for the CHB is diverse statement in the first series by itself, everyone who wasn’t beckendorf was white. HOO and ToA massively upgraded this, but for PJO almost every camper we meet is white, and every named camper who’s not beckendorf is white
I don’t care as much that Chiron is black, saying as I’m pretty sure his skin color is never specified in the books. But annabeth is literally described to be white with blonde hair and grey eyes, and her actress has none of those traits. No hate to her actress who I think will do a phenomenal job playing the character, but I’m not a fan of Disney race swapping for the sake of diversity and for the sake of the story.
With the new cast, Riordan feels that everyone involved is "perfect," even if they don't look exactly like how they might have been written in the original books. With Scobell, Riordan noted, "Did I care that his hair is a different color than what is described in the book? Not at all. He just felt like Percy.” With Simhadri's Grover, Riordan similarly added, "Does he look exactly like I describe him in the book? No. That doesn’t matter."
"Leah impressed me from the moment I met her. She has that sort of steel that makes her a leader, but there’s a bit of vulnerability to her," the author went on to say about Jeffries. “Now, again, does she look like Annabeth looks in the books? No. Was that important to me? No. If anything, it was a massive benefit to broaden the cast in terms of representation.”
With the new cast, Riordan feels that everyone involved is "perfect," even if they don't look exactly like how they might have been written in the original books. With Scobell, Riordan noted, "Did I care that his hair is a different color than what is described in the book? Not at all. He just felt like Percy.” With Simhadri's Grover, Riordan similarly added, "Does he look exactly like I describe him in the book? No. That doesn’t matter."
"Leah impressed me from the moment I met her. She has that sort of steel that makes her a leader, but there’s a bit of vulnerability to her," the author went on to say about Jeffries. “Now, again, does she look like Annabeth looks in the books? No. Was that important to me? No. If anything, it was a massive benefit to broaden the cast in terms of representation.”
This would be better than Bundle of Conflicts and Contradictions movies
Thanks for this, it makes me feel a little better that Riordan himself is not only involved but feels everyone is great for their roles. If they're great for their characters, I don't really mind as much if they're not the same. It only gets frustrating when changing are made for inclusion or seemingly no reason (e.g. british egyptians), but it seems here they'll be pretty good :)
This is what baffles me about so many people being mad about the actors not looking like their counterparts. I’m glad Riordan was so involved with this because I could only imagine what people would be saying if his involvement was limited or straight-up nonexistent. It’s so weird how people are mad about the characters not looking a certain way (when we already have graphic novels for that) and not things like the “a quest is always undertaken by 3” part…
I personally have no problem with annabeth being black if the actress is good at playing her, however percy being blond kinda does bother me, mostly because dying his hair would have been easy.
@@MyNegroAcademia thing is, are they really mad, or disappointed? because for me, i am just a bit disappointed, because, well, she doesn't look like the character is described. if that is the only problem, and she delivers a good annabeth, then my disappointment about it is neither reason to not watch the show nor to say its bad. but i do think it is legitimate criticism when a book with pretty established characters is made into a series.
Lmao if they don't look like the characters in the book then what are you basing it on? Who gives a fuck if the actors have the qualities of the characters? I swear that is all people seem to care about when it is entirely inconsequential. Actors are supposed to act and I swear everyone has forgotten this key piece of information so looks and acting ability is the only thing that matters. Not if the actors reflect the values of the characters. That's just idiotic.
i totally understand where you’re coming from about the characters, however i love how respectful you are about it! and you’re definitely entitled to your opinion
10:40, you’re 100% right also. It is for new people for sure, but I went on the book tour for Chalice this summer and Rick was very adamant that this was the adaptation “lifelong fans have been waiting on and deserved rather than the movie I won’t name or talk about”
There never was a Percy Jackson movie, only two Peter Johnson movies
This is true story: A few weeks ago, I was at Rhode island Comic-Con and one of the guests there was T.C Carson, the voice of Kratos in the older God of war games. I got the opportunity to meet him and I told him about the Disney+ Percy Jackson adaption and I asked him that since he's best known for voicing a half-blood character, if he was ever offered a cameo appearance in said adaption, would he take it. To my surprise, his answer was "Absolutely".
Imagine Carson showing up as myth Kratos- weenus Disney _would_ do it.
As a Greek person I can certainly agree that the choice of actor for Chiron is certainly an odd one. When I read the books I certainly saw the character as more Greek looking and plus in this show is centaur form shows a black stallion instead of a white stallion in the books which I also thought was an interesting choice. Overall coming from a Greek person and answering your question, yes I do think this choice was strange
This is not strange but damn wrong. Why they always need to receive swap characters is amazing and beyond my imagination. Been black it feels off for me.
Look up ESG scores that's why@@winngh
@@winngh They want to make the cast more diverse, but they don't want to write a new character in or expand more on a super unimportant side character.
It's a pretty sloppy method, but it gets the job done at little risk to the actual direction of the story, which is their main job.
It's mainly a budget issue that they're trying to solve due to a developed story being too complex to write something into.
More writing=more costs, employee pay hours, and time before production
Less writing= Less losses before profits, less employees, less hours to pay for, less time before release, and faster profits due to less production time.
At the end of the day money talks, and it gives fast directions, no pun intended.
Honestly as long as the acting is good I doubt anyone will really care what race the characters are. Doesn’t have to be 100% accurate after all
@@snakewriter7786 If I remember correctly Rick said they were picked because they fit the character
Coming from a Greek person, this actually a pretty neat choice of cast for the entire series, and since Rick Riordan is helping out with the making of the show. While the casting is strange, yes the the acting isn't. Just give the actor a chance.
I always appreciate book fans and enthusiasts more than comic/ nerd space. They're more open minded. I never read Percy Jackson but I watched a Crime Thriller series that I read as a teen called Will Trent - it's now on Disney+. I felt what everyone has been saying about swapping characters but gave the actors a chance and was pleasantly surprised. It was a twist that the characters that match the books are swapped. I'd picture Mark-Paul Gosselaar in the main role but he was just a support character in the pilot.
No, America needs to keep its inside politics out of other countries mythology and culture.
@@thehermit8723 But it's a book adaption, not a documentary, it does not have to be 100% accurate to the source material. If they screw it up, the fans will let them know, just like with the Percy Jackson movies.
@@Folker46590It's based on our mythology nonetheless. Do you seriously believe that they whould do this with Chinese or Japanese Mythology?
@@thehermit8723Well I see where you're coming from but it's adapting to the books. Sure it's based on Greek mythology but they're not adapting the mythology itself just the book.
I feel like the grey eyes are more important than skin color when it comes to Annabeth. I can also understand if they didnt want to bother with cgi or color changing contacts.
I feel like ares fire eyes will be a thing that happens at certain moments rather than always being there
Yep and Ares personality wise is accurate to the books arrogant, and super-cocky but can back it up due to his mastery of tactics, H2H combat, melee weapons, ranged weapons including firearms, and the frenemy mentor-type relationship with Percy aka yes beating the ever-loving crap out of him and trying to seemingly "kill him" but also teaching him that the world of "gods and monsters" is no game, and if you're not ready for it you will die.
Race notwithstanding, the guy playing Chiron, Glynn Turman, has some unique qualities to him that I see might be the reason why he was chosen.
The guy straight up ran a summer camp at one point, for example. Might be a case of him being so qualified in terms of experience that Riordan considered being more true to Chiron's race in the book a secondary concern.
I never read Percy Jackson but I like the Annabeth change, she is the answer to "black Hermione" since the Harry Potter reboot series is planning on making it more diverse. I don't want them to change Hermione to be black because in the books she is INSUFFERABLE. Annabeth makes more sense as she's not well known and the other movies were failures. Besides, a blonde who is a Valley-girl fighter/strategist female sounds like Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
And that's a reason to play a mythology figure from another culture?
@@thehermit8723 Whites play Egyptians and other cultures all tge time. Why is it a big deal when ots a black person all of a sudden? Especially when history has been white washed? Egyptians are not white and have never been. Jesus isn't white either
@@suezcontours6653 There's no such thing as answer to "Black Hermione". The whole idea is just complete political BS. She's just an actress who can play the role, that's all there is to it. Not sure why they didn't stick with their iconic looks, but as long as they can act good then we can all let that slide. I'm pretty sure people were still impressed with race change with Samuel Jackson and Domino. People love them because the actor and actress were able to portray the character really well.
@@misteris2385 There's such a thing as imagination and, let's not lie, whites are not reproducing. Black people are creating and watching their own content. What will white people do when they're eventually the minorities and black TV is what's dominating. Personally I don't give AF. But seeing as these companies are willing to lose major customer base I'm USA for diversity (they have the data, not me) I assume, that this population crisis is MAJOR and will impact the industry 30 or 50 years from now.
Turn your eyes over to South Africa where the 88% of blacks who dominate that country won't watch a single white TV show (not for prejudice reasons but because language barriers) hence why White South Africans flee to Canada for jobs in media. The same will happen in the USA.
About Zeus' cast, they'll need to recast since the actor sadly passed away): Lance Reddick played Charon in the John Wick saga, and he died a few days before the last movie released
Oh my. If he did scenes before he passed I hope they'll do the same honor that the John Wick4 movie did.
It would be sad if Lance Reddick's work would not be credited here.
That sucks, he was awesome in those movies. I haven't seen him in much else, but I think he played Wesker in that live action show unless I'm thinking of someone else
Rick said that he casted how he did for there personality and how they portrayed the character and not their looks so I hope they do the characters justice
He casted how Disney told him to cast because they are the ones paying him a fortune. What is he supposed to say otherwise?
@@Dieter-Doeddelexactly, I don't think he had any control over the casting
@@tartarus31 that's what I meant, Disney did what Disney always does and Rick as an employee of Disney who is handsomely paid by them is praising his employer choices. You do not bite the hand who feeds you.
If you have a spine though, like the inventor of One Piece, you should have more control of your own IP. Rick obviously lacks that.
@@Dieter-DoeddelQuit being such a pessimistic asshole and a racist. Stop ruining this for us. RICK DID CHOOSE THESE KIDS.
@@Dieter-Doeddel Rick has said multiple times that HE chose the actors, and he was gonna get paid a fortune for the movies but once he read the script, he offered to help but when they refused, he left the project. If he really didn't have any choice, he would've said so. Stop being a fake fan and comparing Rick to the author of One Peice, who you don't even know the name of. He stated that he would only make the series if he got to control nearly everything, and the series is getting made.
I'd rather have the casting prioritise personality rather than looks which seems like what they're doing
For me when it comes to the actors I just want to see how they're performances are.
On a side note I just hope this ends up being at least a better adaptation of the books than the movies.
I mean , yes , personally is more important, if Jennifer Lawrence played tiana and she portrait her personality that would be 100 percent OK
in my opinion, i’m not really upset about the casting. as long as the actors do a good job portraying the characters, i’m not mad. i’m just glad that the characters’ ages are accurate.
i am genuinely really excited for the reboot :)
Hope that you are feeling okay, Mythology Guy.
It's a nice touch that they are remaking this - hopefully faithful to the book
I too, am a massive fan of the books. And have a very clear vision of how the characters look in my head. We do however have to internalize that this is an adaptaion and you have to make changes. Rick and the showrunners seem to have prioritised character over appearance. I think that is the right decision, The PJ books have always been inclusive and diverse, depicting neuro divergent people, people of different origins and appearence.
You're right Percy Jackson has always had that underlying message
I would argue that while true to a point, this is still a visual medium. It's no longer a piece of literature, and therefore the physical appearance of the character has a much greater impact on the impression imparted to the audience than in a book.
The "vibe" of an actor more closely matching the feel of the character form the book is a fair point. Matching that is certainly valuable to a point. But the physically of a character can be just as important. If you cast a 90lb, 6ft tall, rail of a man as a heavyweight boxer, but he has the vibe of a fighter, people still aren't going to be able to see the character as who they were ment to be. A drunk, abusive, disgusting slob of a person shouldn't be seen relatively cleanly put together, timid looking, and having the general additude and vibe of a dumb but harmless milenial dad.
I could go on and on, but my point is that many of these characters on the page are shaped by the wording of the author in your head. Some changes can be made, and are expected to be, in comparison to a mental image. But if the dissonance between description and casting appearance is so stark in some cases, you've put one thing at to high of a priority over another. An actors general impression can be changed through, and hold on for a minute here, acting. But the physical traits that also make the character can often be much harder to change. Both are important, and many of the characters simply don't match their physical descriptions from the books.
I think it’s just one of the issues of a live action series. You won’t always find actors who both look like the characters, and can give a good performance ESPECIALLY with child actors. So you kinda have to prioritise getting good actors over faithful appearances.
Only thing Ive noticed so far is that percy had riptide while fighting the minotaur when he was supposed to have given it back to chiron
I want to believe that they did the best they could, but in the end, they decided that what mattered more was the quality of the actors to tell the story over whether they were perfectly accurate in appearance. I think if the story is actually great, then I think even book readers like yourself would come to love it.
I completely agree with Leo. He needs to be Hispanic. I also agree with pretty much everything else you talking about.
Just let me see Dior Goodjohn get splashed with toilet water and Leah Jeffries to call Walker Scobell “Seaweed Brain.”
Fun fact: luke in the show looks like Percy in the book.
I will say while certain characters have been... Changed, from how I recall them being described in the books, I do feel Riordan is more genuine with wanting the changes since He's actively involved with the project.
Im not the biggest fan of the changes personally, but Im not raging over it. As long as the story is actually closer to the books, thats the only thing I ultimately care about here.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it part of Annabeth's character that she was blonde? Because of the whole "blondes are dumb" stereotype? Maybe i'm remembering wrong. I really hope the show's gonna be good, and if it is, then I can forget if the characters don't look like they should, but some things, like Annabeth being blonde, and Percy's green eyes are mentioned a lot in the books. I can accept that finding a really buff young actress for Clarisse is not that easy, after all she is a demigod and stronger than a normal human, but wigs and contact lenses are available.
Appearances are part of any character, so yeah. Annabeth's appearance especially played a big part in her introduction.
@@jordanholloman5907 This Is what I was looking for. So many people are talking about the actress being close to Annabeth´s character/personality, and yes, that´s important, but personality isn´t everything. As much as people want to deny it, looks/appearance matters. First impressions are a thing, and they are mostly visual.
(And just so the internet doesn´t scream at me, I have nothing against the actress. Frankly I don´t care about her. This is a fault of the casting team.)
We may try not to, but we do judge books by the cover.
@@johnyshadow Thank you. It's rare to find people with common sense these days.
I think that foggy 🌫️ forest scene is the Fields of Asphodels, where souls who were neither good or bad enough go to
, I love the portrayal that the actor done for Percy’s emotions and how he actually felt sad for the fact his mom died and how his mom unlike I’m the movie got 2015 or something and how he wasn’t over his mom just like that after like the first few scenes -
So close to 1 mill hope you get there. love your videos btw
I'm not super jazzed about all the race swaps, I've never really been happy about them with only a few exceptions, but I'll giving the show a fair shot r regardless. The story changes are also kinda strange, especially when they don't seem to make sense given what we see in the books. While I'm sure the overall story will be way more faithful, and Rick okayed these changes, I'm still kinda disappointed that we didn't finally get book accurate depictions, especially when some of the changes to the characters also affect other characters. Like annabeth would logically change Athena since she took a lot from her mother in looks in the books. Gabe's actor honestly just doesn't look bad enough for the character. Nancy is actually pretty book accurate, and remains a ginger which i wasn't sure would happen. I'm hoping the acting and story, effects and sets are good though to counteract all these weird changes.
One thing i am really disappointed about is that they didn't cast Logan lerman as Poseidon. It would've been a great way for him to have a in the series in a more positive way as i saw a few fan casts for him
They might have tried to cast Caucasian characters but the actors they chose is because they acted the best
Sure but there's at least still time to cast Lerman as Paul Blofis.
"Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed"
Riordan picked these characters for how well the can play his characters, so you'll likely enjoy the story itself as it plays out.
I did and I'm still disappointed.
@@jordanholloman5907 I haven't watched it yet but I'll check it out who knows I might like it
Im black and I feel like the races of characters usually dont matter- its actually nice to have representation now that I didnt really grow up with, but like even I feel like the Chiron thing is just pandering. Hes a Greek mythological character, and I think maaaaaybbbe (just maybe!) he could be Greek. Im not Greek though, and so I cant really say my opinion on it or speak for Greek people, but yeah I think making book accurate characters (especially when it matters) isnt a crime. But on another note, Im really excited for this series, Im glad Rick had more of a hand in its creation and Im excited for how things play out and how much better its gonna be than the movies (I just know it).
I felt the same about chiron until i looked into the actors background and learnt he's like the most qualified person to play chiron. Pro horse rider and at one point ran a summer camp. It's like his whole life was an audition to play chiron!
It can be viewed as pandering, but actually including an original character to account for diversity without making them seem unimportant is expensive.
It's really just saving them money.
I agree with you because it shows that they're letting money get in the way of story improvements.
@@TheBigFormerlyPurpleTbecause disney is so tight on on money 💰💰
Greek here.
Personally, the casting for Chiron is ..... "funny". Let's go with that. It's odd for more then 1 reason.
But if he is good at his job I will let it slide.
And Annabeth can be black as far as Im concerned. She is American after all.
@@gilgameshkingofheroes5903 American yes but according to the Magnus Chase books her family goes way back into Norse Heritage on her father's side.
I'm glad you're honest with your audience, and that you're not being racist (if anyone says you are, it's ignorant). Contarily, you're asking for our insight, and understand that there will be differences of opinions.
I dont know how to explain that this is the best adaptation we could get Fans that were into this for a long time get it the writers perfectly understand the characters they have to adapt if you look into the writers directors costume designers vfx and actors you would know they are all so passionate about this. Nit picking on hair color and appearance is really doing the whole book series a disservice because it is about more than that and if you listen to the interviews of the crew (last monster donut podcast episode) you would understand that. Most of the fans that i know are ecstatic
I’m totally with you on the casting. Maybe not every book series needs to be taken at face value when being adapted, but the Percy Jackson series feels purposeful and creative enough for that treatment. These characters are very well defined and likable in the books and I just don’t see the need to change them.
The characters don't seem to be changed though. Just the race. The actors seem like they will do a good job of portraying the characters.
@@dilberthigh😂, they changed clarisse budy type , and you say they only changed the race ??? They changed every single thing
@@dilberthigh
The thing we call "race" is part of the characters.
What bugs me the most is the hypocrisy. Never ever would they hire a African guy to play a chinese or japanese character. (There was a time they might have picked white dudes though)
You can't tell me looking at a supposedly chinese mythological character looking like KSI wouldn't be stupid.
I think it's good to have different races in movies but if it's for something already made/written I think they should keep it true to the character descriptions
Agreed, it just looks a little of putting when your used to a character looking a certain way
I agree.
It just feels like virtue signaling
They could add new characters to the story or use a character with very little descriptions, and as MG said in the video, give them more screen time so that we can have more elements to make the story compelling.
Changing stuff isn't very good in most series, unless it's for the better of the story. Adding more to the narrative is a vital part of any film adaptation.
It's cool with me as long as the actual movie is good at the end of the day.
@@TheBigFormerlyPurpleT that is true
A good point to make is everyones perception of a characters looks different in ones mind.
one thing i dont get, is how many people tell me "well disliking annabeth's casting is racist" which is funny, because i didnt like that they changed annabeth's hair in the movies, im just consistent. make characters accurate to how they were written in the books, is that really too much of a request? there's plenty of diversity in camp half-blood for the show to look into, why do we need to change the characters?
Yeah. We need the actors to both look and act their parts. Not just one or the other.
Didn't even realize Lin Manuel Miranda was going to be In this show until I watched the video
I’ve seen several comments saying RR was fine with the castings, however I do find it strange as he’s the writer of the books so… if he wanted the characters to be diverse… he could’ve done it while writing the book. lol And I get it, the children of the gods can be diverse… but the mythological characters are literally Greek in origin lol That being said,
The trailer looks awesome and I’ll definitely be watching. Maybe we’ll eventually get a Red Pyramid adaptation one day!
The Minotaur appears to be wearing tighty wighties. I just wanted to bring that up, I haven't seen anyone else bring that up, and I just found that a bit odd. Granted it's hard to make out, but it's a fun detail and book accurate.
I've said this before… my sole worry with Annabeth is… whatever her appearance is, that's the appearance her entire cabin is gonna be because of the ‘Apperance of the mother brains of the Father’ however, they could reverse that so it's ‘Apperance of the *Father* brains of the mother’ which… I'm totally cool with.
Clarrise technically never had her skin described in the books… just her hair and eyes… and she's like, 5’6 in the Last Olympian so… those kinda muscles on that small a body… sound pretty nuts.
As for Chiron… after doing some looking ONLY the books describe him as having a white horse body, EVERYTHING else has him with a dark horse body… so I think the casting for Chiron’s fine.
As a massive one piece fan with us having the first good anime adaptation trust me the changes they had to make and everything were pretty upsetting at first but the characters spirits and everything came through and the story was all there and payed good respect to the source as the author was there every step of the way don’t worry try to take it as what it is a adaptation that is trying it’s best to accurately adapt the story
8:48 This has to be a ghost at Asphodel Fields! Ghost that just stand there, no feelings, no memory, just plain standing...
The race swaps are odd. But if Rick thinks himself that they are a good fit, then I’m sure they’ll make a great fit. Even if the show isn’t completely faithful to the books, I’m sure it’ll be way more faithful compared to the movies.
“There is no Percy Jackson movies in Ba Sing Se.”
Ohhhh my God, it's finally here!!! Been waiting to hear your reaction and thoughts on this
Annabeth is the only casting I’m really questioning. Just because she’s described a lot in the books, it’s hammered into your brain with what she looks like. So it’s just off putting.
Percy’s hair seems closer to brown in this show. I think it depends on the lighting. I have the same feelings about Percy being blond as I do with Slappy being ginger in that weird 90s Goosebumps show.
I sort of agree that I am a bit disappointed about how the actors don’t look like what I imagined them to be like but I think that since Rick Riordan picked them that if he thinks they will be good then I will support that. Also when reading the Chalice of the Gods I realised that he didn’t mention any physical features of any of the main characters which I thought maybe was because of the new series that is coming out. Overall I am so looking forward to watch it and cant wait for it to come out.
Honestly, the more I see of this show, the more I question it. The casting choices don't really bother me, but all the random changes to the story that keep cropping up make me wonder "what are they doing?" What is Hermes doing in the Lotus Hotel? Why is it Sally telling Percy that he's a demigod? Why is Medusa conventionally attractive _again?_
I'm sure the show will ultimately be a better adaptation than the movies. But aside from that (which let's be honest, is a really low bar to clear)... I just don't know.
Expecting a 1 to 1 recreation is just never gonna happen. With the power of hindsight, they can change many things in the story of the first book to flesh it out. Don’t get me wrong, I love the first book… but there are a lot of things wrong with it. Like why does Percy know so much about Greek myths even though he fails every class he studies, including Latin, which he himself says after he takes the final exam? Why does Mr. Brunner just disregard the very apparent danger Percy is in at Yancy? Grover couldn’t help with the fury, and Hades isn’t known to just stop after one failed attempt. Luke and Percy also felt a bit rushed, so maybe Hermes is there to set up the parallel between him and Luke to Percy and Poseidon?
Adding onto the fact that it’s really difficult to do a 100% perfect adaptation, Rick did mention that he wanted to use this show as an opportunity to add new scenes that he didn’t have in the books. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sally telling Percy about Greek mythology and half-bloods was one of them
@@mallikaanand7917 It makes sense… Like Sally knows how dangerous life is for half bloods so she wants to prepare him but not give too much away to the point he realizes he’s a demigod
@@TheIndianDeity Exactly
I wish this is the kind of stuff Mythology Guy would fuss over rather than skin color
It should be for the book readers. My nephew is 9 and recently finished reading the books. He's looking forward to the series and see the characters come alive. I was excited to share this with him. 2 generations have high hopes.
I’m glad you also liked the Riptide song
Id really be looking forward to your videos reacting to the show in December!
I'm not one of your Greek viewers, but I still wanna share my thoughts on the race swaps. With Annabeth, I don't care as long as she's black because of her dad, but if it's because of Athena, then I have an issue. I agree with your stance on Chiron, and I kinda agree with your stance on Zeus possibly being race swapped. I'd much prefer the characters matching their cultural origins, but in the end, since the casting has been picked, and the filming is done, I just hope everyone does a great job portraying the character they were cast to play.
Also, as a side note, love the GWP Tahu and Takua on the shelf. You are a man with good tastes
Well, she gets her eye and hair color from her mother in the books, so it could go either way. Or both. Who knows? They probably haven't decided on the casting for those roles.
@@TheBigFormerlyPurpleT she endeed inherited her mother's eyes but not her hair color, given that athena is never described as blonde in all 3 series but alw either brunette or w/ black hair. Classic mandela effect suffered by th fandom
@@TheBigFormerlyPurpleTno, Athena has black/dark brown hair. It's just that she makes her children have blonde hair and grey eyes. Fredrick and the rest of the Chase family have natural blond hair though.
@@mastertofu not all of her children. George washington, auguste bartholdi n bea wise had blue-gray eyes n reddish hair, brown eyes n hair n dark eyes hair, respectively
Get well soon, your one of the best mythology youtubers
Thing about the earlier trailers I loved that they kept for this one in a way is Ares' sort of frenemy mentor-type relationship with Percy sure he's trying to beat the ever loving crap out of him and basically "kill him" but he's also teaching Percy that the world of "gods and monsters" is no game and if you're not ready for it you will die basically these quotes.
"You think you're ready for this?"
"This isn't a game kid one and only warning stay down and stay out of the way cause one mistake here has very bad consequences."
As a Greek I'm not offended at all about Chiron because I'm certain Carter Cane is going a played by a tall, blonde, blue eyed, Swedish kid...oh wait....
Yeah, it is ironic isn't it?
I feel like anabeth's character ties into her "blond bimbo" appearance too, right?
hey binge all at once or do it episode by episode i'm down for whatever and congrats on almost hitting a million subs
Percy is blond BUT Luke has black hair! They swapped! I think that's kinda cool
About Annabeth... I was worried at first. In the books she built a reputation as "the scary blond one" (even the Gods call her that lol) so I was a bit dissapointed with new Annabeth UNTIL I realized that was the ONLY memorable thing I could remember about her character, so I welcome this change and the possibilites of new depths to Wise Girl. Also the confederate ghost scene is bound to be reeeeeally interesing this time around.
Now, thinking waaaaay ahead: what about best boy Magnus? We still haven't heard about Frederick, but I'm guessing Annabeth takes after Athena (we haven't heard about her either) given that Zeus is black now and Athena is basically a clone and stuff. I know the probability of getting a Magnus Chase adaptation is slim, but raceswapping him would actually be rather weird because of the Kurt Cobain thing, imo.
Please do episode by episode! I would watch them all! Even multiple videos on one episode. Love your content and this book series is my fav of all time
As a black individual and a die-hard fan of this whole series that got me through rough times at school, yeah, a lot of race bended characters is interesting. One or two is a given but changing a lot of them is interesting to say the least. All that said, it's not the end of the world if there is a difference color to their skin. There are ALWAYS going to be a difference in material at any given point. The dialogue is different, the costume is different, the hair alwayyys wrong (rip blonde comic book characters) the dynamic a little different. And all those things don't change much or go unnoticed. Sometimes can make it better or more fun. Remember when Samuel Jackson was Nick Fury? In the comics he was always white, only ONE run was he actually black and that was within one of the worst and most hated of Marvel runs. Remember when Chris Pratt was Mario? We hated that it was him and not someone Italian and how bad it was going to be. Not only did he do great, the brothers didn't even a fucking Italian accent and everyone still loved the movie. Morgan Freeman replaced a ginger character in Shawshank Redemption, no one was the wiser about it. Despite Aquaman being white with blonde hair, Jason Momoa killed the role while being neither. James Earl Jones voices Darth Vader, didn't make Vader's voice any less awesome.
These changes hurts the og appearance, not the performance or effect or even value. Am i saying Race-swapping/bending is a good thing? No, not at all! Fuck that. I rather have lesser know black or raced characters just be more important or make something new. I have my moments when i hate it. I remember fuming when they casted at a black woman as Starfire in the Titans HBO show, i would rant about it all the time. But as time went on, i went to enjoy the character in the show just fine. Now the show wasn't that good tbh, but Starfire being black had nothing to do with how the show performed. What i am saying, is that we need to take these changes with a grain of salt. We need to fight for lesser characters of race to get the spotlight instead of race-swapping og characters but at the same time we don't need to flip Tyr's temple if it characters get race swapped. At the end of the day, it is the writing and storytelling that breaks an adaption.
I have never read Percy Jackson, I missed it completely because it seemed like Greek Mythology was a "white thing" - this was the 00's - I didn't know better. I read Cassandra Clare books and Skulduggery Pleasant because of the graphic novel style cover and all the way through high school I obsessed over Adult Crime fiction: Karin Slaughter books. They developed her books into a ABC series and changed all the characters, it wasn't so bad but some of the core characters are no longer recognizable.
No offense my friend but it's offensive to us Greeks. They could have race swapped any modern day character from the books but deities and creatures from Greek myths must remain Culturally correct. It'd supposed to be based on actual Greek myths not a South Park episode.
@@thehermit8723 Greeks are not white, though. So white person playing one is offensive. Especially jowls because your population numbers are in decline and civilization is becoming black again. Rhiodan is predicting the future, good man.
@@thehermit8723 every Greek person who I've seen commenting is not offended by it they find it odd, but not offensive and you're under each of their comments trying to convince them to be offended. You're an American doing that thing, being offended on behalf of others stop it's coming off as racist.
@@thehermit8723
I'm not necessarily offended, but it is both funny, ironic and quite hypocritical.
Just a little tip for mythology guy if he sees this, you can use the '' keys on the keyboard to go frame by frame through the RUclips video if you want to analyse the footage like trying to see if the Chimera has the snake tail 😁
Did you hear Disney is making Hercules black in the Hercules remake coming out next year😂😂
There's like 3 people saying that and one of them is ryan kinel
Bro, Annabeth's family plays a major role in Ricks works. Her family is tied to multiple pantheons, namely the Greek and Norse gods.
I love how most times, your hair's just, there 😂
I love the " huuh, who cares " lifestyle and mindset 😅
Honestly I don’t really have a problem with the characters not looking like that do in the books as long as they act like they should. At the end of the day they also have to cast actors they can find, and especially with child actors it’s harder to find kids that look like what you want for characters
Imagine if the author made a more Percy Jackson books but had Norse mythology as the driving point, like maybe a half blood son or daughter of Loki or something shows up at camp half blood and then Dionysus and Chiron are like: "Who's Loki...and Odin...?"
CHB is 100% aware of the Norse gods because of Annabeth
@@TheIndianDeity I see
Read Magnus chase it's a spin off of Percy Jackson
I know they've done egyptian gods because one of the books has apophis I believe, and they did roman in the second series of books (which were just different versions of the Greek gods but it was still cute). Wouldn't be surprised if riordan does norse one day since its one of the more popular mythologies
@@darcidious99 he has done Norse, it’s the Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard series, which is also set in the PJO universe
That hadn't even occurred to me with Chiron lol.
Oh my gosh he's actually 12?! The madness! It's like they're actually trying for once!
“The nature of a thing is more important than the form of a thing.” -Brok 2022
I hope you do reactions to the series when it comes out. Or record yourself watching it then for your review cut in moments of your reactions
All I will say is, all your remarks are completely understandable, personally, I don't share your views, I am completely open to changes in character. But, please do give the show a chance, I would love to see episode reviews from you.
My expectations after everything I’ve seen so far (trailers and interviews) are really high, but the bar is literally so low I will be happy with anything they put on screen
I'm still salty about Annabeth, since there are way too little blond female characters that are neither the "classic highschool popular girl" nor the "op strong female with zero personality", but if they don't screw up this show I can partially forgive them.
My biggest nitpick is still Percy getting Riptide before the Minotaur fight, whereas he should only get it right before leaving for the quest
While it will certainly take some getting used to, I don't mind the characters looking different from the books all that much, as long as the actors and actresses were chosen based on their ability to portray the characters rather than to fill out some representation checklist.
i did notice a couple things in this trailer that i maybe dont like. idk. in this video at 8:59, it looks like percy has a camp necklace with at least 4 beads, even though hes not even supposed to have a necklace at this point in the story. and he has riptide during the fight with the minotaur??? that was exactly what they did in the movie, and idk about you guys, but i feel like that diminished how impressive he was in that battle. the whole point of it in the book was that he fought and defeated the minotaur empty-handed. thats why everyone at camp was impressed and a little jealous. also, you cant really tell his eye color in this trailer, but i looked it up and it looks like walker scobell has BLUE eyes. im not sure if theyre doing colored contacts or what, but i hope they do make his eyes green. thats why hes such a heartbreaker lol. and then there are a couple things he mentioned here that i agree with, mainly the race-swapping. im fine with percy's look, bc he definitely has the right personality for it, and hes actually a good actor. but annabeth? im not trying to be racist or anything, my main problem is her hair. shes supposed to be blonde. her race might not be an important part of her character, but her hair color is. the first time we get to see her perspective in the books, the mark of athena, she mentions that her being blonde means that she has to work twice as hard to prove herself at everything. because of the "dumb blonde" stereotype. she breaks that stereotype a lot, bc shes blonde and shes also probably the smartest character in any of the books. again, im not trying to racist or rude, and no hate to the actress, i bet she'll do a great job. these are just my personal thoughts. i think i'll have a hard time reconciling annabeth with leah jeffries on screen.
i do wonder if they make it to where Annabeth calls Percy seaweed brain not bc of his hair (as it is blond) but bc he is kinda dull and seems like he has seaweed clogging up his brain
I really hope the show turns out good! Love your channel btw! ❤
Leo is also my fav beside Percy. and With the discussion. I was excited for book accurate characters. But of course I am very excited for the show and to see the story. I think the reason why it hurts a bit is just because he is so accurate with description so we can envision these characters so well that the changes kind of hurt our visions
As a Greek i don't really have a problem with Anabeth cause if you want to find an excuse for for dark skinned Greek person you can, like especially after Alexander the great there were a lot of black people that spoke Greek but also it does feel strange when it comes to Chiron since he like you said had not been black in the myths so i do feel like that's kinda pushing it
Although i should add i am not THAT big of a fan of the Percy Jackson books i have only read the first one
As another Hellinas I to don't really have a problem with black Annabeth. She's American after all.
But Chiron should look greek. If he acts good I'll let it pass though.
This is what I say for every "race change" that happens when adaptations reach the big screen: Look at the story. If the story being told is not suffering as a result, then bringing up a race change to a character is actually adding fuel to a social media fire that you're not paying enough attention to. In this case with a story about mythological characters, commenting on race is especially unnecessary and thus only serves to be damaging in the long run. Chiron is a centaur, he's not a modern Greek human. Horses have multiple skin colors, and yes, that includes all dark skin horses. That's really the only thing that needs to be said for Chiron's case, but let's go further into the idea of a "Greek race identity". Much of Greek history that we've been able to recover goes back to a time where there was no centralized "Greek" identity to the people living in the Balkans. What you had were multiple different cultures who vaguely spoke similar languages (sometimes) and who worshiped some of the same gods. And yes, being so close to Africa, there's a belief in the historic community that the differing skin colors that likely inhabited the Balkans were as big of an effect as which culture a person identified with. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone during that time as pale white as some of the anglo-saxon actors who've portrayed ancient Greek characters over the last century. So even if Rick Riordian actually did dedicated a sentence in the first Percy Jackson book to how pale Chiron's skin is, any "race change" in this case really isn't important or even worthy of commentary to the actual story being told. The benefits of casting Annabeth and Chiron as they did far FAR outweighs whatever "issue" people think it's causing to the story: It allows the black kids who love reading Percy Jackson to see the new series and say "Look, there I am!", something that they can't always do in mainstream media. Have you ever thought maybe there were plenty of little black girls who read the books and envisioned themselves as Annabeth? How excited they were to see the new trailer? That's more important than anything to me, and anything else is just a smokescreen for people who're even slightly put off by anything that alters the status quo that they're very very comfortable with. I'm just saying, it's fine to discuss race change in media where it hurts both the story and the people it's portraying, but there are other times when you probably shouldn't spend 20% of a video discussing this kind of casting decision in a case where it does far more good than any perceived grievance we can come up with. You're honestly just giving certain people justification to their unjustified rage. Just a thought...
I think I remember someone else who is a hard-core book fan say thar some of the changes are ones that Rick has thought about and wished he had done since they came out. Hopefully that might be some of the smaller stuff
I would love to see episode by episode content of this show from you, but if it ever becomes too much I fully understand you just making one big video about it all
making an adaptation that's not intended for fans of the original sounds like a really terrible idea for so many reasons. It's the one audience you can guarantee you'll have and it's the audience that will judge you the harshest so surely it's the audience you most want to appeal to?
I just know both the show and this vid will be🔥
Im honestly happy enough that we get something that's story wise close to the book and i hope that it's good enough that we atleast we get to nico. I need to see my Italian emo boy
Lin-Manuel Miranda: appers for a second
Me: take my money
There is a new book with Percy Jackson. Also another one coming out next September.
I dont really get the take on “the characters arent defined by your race”. At point blank reading it makes sense sure. But that doesnt mean that characters should just be swapped even if their race isnt a factor in their character. Why not just get actors who look like or are capable of looking like the characters they will be playing? You are trying to adapt these characters for the fans of them. Wouldnt the fans want to be able to see how the characters they like actually look when they get to see them adapted? Bruce Wayne isnt defined by his race. Neither is Clark Kent. Nor Peter Parker. But they certainly shouldn’t be race swapped.
The new How To Train Your Dragon movie has already announced it’s first 2 castings of Astrid and Hiccup and they are both not the race of the characters. And when asked about it the actor for Astrid said they wanted ti add more diversity to the island of Berk and not focus to much on Vikings. You’re telling me they could find someone who resembles Hiccup or Astrid or are capable of resembling them?
Sure there are still characters who have race swapped and i still enjoy watching like Heimdall, The Ancient One for examples. But i really wish that they would’ve been adapted as their comic selves so much more instead.
If it’s an adaptation of a character who never got a description on what they look like fine. But a lot of these characters have official descriptions or images of them from the creators
You do know that you can spring frame to frame with dot and comma
i really wish the actors looked like the characters, i cannot visualize annabeth as annabeth or chiron as chiron when they or percy as percy because they just look soo different
Hey did you forget about record of the ragnarock prt 2 ?? Man it was fun.
Good vid btw
Yo walker goes to my school, should I buy a camp half blood t shirt and ask him to sign it?
I am really over the Disney race swapping. They never swap a character to be Chinese or Native American or any other race than African American which makes it feel like it has noting to do with true diversity.