SCHALE Raid Tactics - General Gregorius Guide [Blue Archive]

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  • Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
  • GENERAL GUIDE FOR ALL BOSSES ON ALL DIFFICULTIES: docs.google.com/document/d/1b...
    INSANE GUIDE: docs.google.com/document/d/1x...
    Additional Links:
    lonqie.github.io/SchaleDB/ for complete student database with stat calculations.
    docs.google.com/spreadsheets/... - Stokesia's student rating list for raids
    docs.google.com/document/d/1U... - ItJustWorks library of stats and formulas
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:42 - Main Mechanic - Debuff Counter
    03:04 - Boss Skills - Choir Minions
    05:11 - Boss Skills - The Organ Pipes
    10:28 - Boss Skills - Final Phase
    11:33 - Team Building
    13:37 - Outro and closing thoughts
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Комментарии • 139

  • @causew
    @causew  6 месяцев назад +63

    EDIT: A patch has been pushed out now and this bug that made the soundwaves invisible should now be fixed.
    So it's been reported there is a visual bug right now where the Blue and White waves do not show up, so you can't see which direction it is facing. That's... super annoying. My advice is to try find some old JP runs of the raid and watch where they show up and try to memorise them...
    You can also try memorise the skill description. There's a more complicated way of knowing which way the Blue/White way is facing by looking closely at the centre organ. The organ has a black side and a white side, and there is a strict order in which waves come out on either the black or white side. You can check the order in Greg's skill descriptions in game or on schale.gg.
    Hopefully they fix this because it's kinda a big deal. Not being able to just react to the waves visually makes the raid far more difficult than it should be.

    • @Fenpwet
      @Fenpwet 6 месяцев назад +5

      Oh ok I was wondering why I couldn't see any of the color symbols and was going nuts... A bug... Hope they fix this very soon because it's impossible without seeing what you're doing...

    • @nicky4092
      @nicky4092 6 месяцев назад

      this is so annoying like I barely cleared insane because of this, really need to know the exact timing instead seeing it yourself

    • @dr.nightmare9093
      @dr.nightmare9093 6 месяцев назад +1

      This was making me think I was tripping or was a dumbass dammit thats annoying

    • @ShayYuichi
      @ShayYuichi 6 месяцев назад

      No wonder. I was doing extreme and I can' clear it since I couldn't see the color waves other than yellow

    • @ayearies
      @ayearies 6 месяцев назад

      i knew it it was visual bug since i cant see the annimation for the piano in the center when it will cast it.

  • @yumietsuchinoko
    @yumietsuchinoko 6 месяцев назад +190

    This is absolutely incredible Causew, thank you for all your hard work in compiling the best Total Assault resources out there!! This is such a great help for fighting one of the most complicated bosses in the game, and I am infinitely grateful that you've put this together in both video and written form on your google doc resource!

    • @andyyy1r
      @andyyy1r 6 месяцев назад +7

      We love legends supporting legends.

    • @thenoisyninja
      @thenoisyninja 6 месяцев назад

      Hi Yumie

  • @strongerthanever2039
    @strongerthanever2039 6 месяцев назад +7

    This guy is literally Silent Orchestra from Lobotomy Corporation - church choir themed, goes through 4 phases of his "concert", 4th of wich instakills everybody in the area.

  • @Cr3zant
    @Cr3zant 6 месяцев назад +56

    I love raids where if you don't have the main unit (Minori) you just die or have to spend hours fishing for the right crits/rng/targeting/movement.

    • @Mario-kf3ej
      @Mario-kf3ej 6 месяцев назад +15

      well then as JP already proved we soon get YET another boss who NEEDS new students (sonic damage).
      Really takes much from flexibility or pulling for waifu , gotta go with meta a bit sadly this round.

    • @thenoisyninja
      @thenoisyninja 6 месяцев назад

      I just borrow

    • @Kindi001
      @Kindi001 6 месяцев назад +2

      for my experience is the debuff its self the problem. Minori its kinda tradeablenfornother unit that do thebse role as Maid Yuzu UE 40 for me and Nagisa. and Having Aru for more AoE dmg is handy too. yo yea S saki is core for me

    • @CrnaStrela
      @CrnaStrela 6 месяцев назад

      I don't think minori is the core solver, she is just accelerating the progress. If there's any student I can call core, it would have been Koharu for keeping your tank and dps alive while turning organ and major debuffer like Saki or Mine, especially saki for enabling special students to dps.

  • @Kenraali
    @Kenraali 6 месяцев назад +23

    As always, thank you for your hard work in making seemingly complicated raids easy to understand.

  • @GZ1906
    @GZ1906 6 месяцев назад +10

    Man you are super underrated more people should know about you. Thank you for your hard word and dedication Causew!

  • @Thetiaaaa
    @Thetiaaaa 6 месяцев назад +16

    Thanks for this, you made the boss a lot less complicated for me

  • @danvocals123
    @danvocals123 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Causew! I could only ever do extreme until your videos. I'm still only able to do some insane raids but you've helped my understanding of the game so much. Appreciate you

  • @jborgs69
    @jborgs69 6 месяцев назад +12

    best vid guide. only watched once and i immediately understood. other vids i watched multiple times and im still lost. day 1 f2p player here and i ONLY use causew guides. im in 2 decent sized servers with ba players and im the only one who has cleared a torment raid so far vs whales. i trust this guy with my childrens life

  • @tophrii
    @tophrii 6 месяцев назад +2

    This video was absolutely helpful. Thank you so much. I can’t wait to mock!!

  • @Carlos-he1fh
    @Carlos-he1fh 6 месяцев назад +7

    Incredible explanation, finally can use Saya

  • @martinsleith2434
    @martinsleith2434 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for your guide, it really made it a lot easier to understand and tackle the boss of this raid!

  • @TatcheeClips
    @TatcheeClips 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great guide, looking forward to trying it out myself!

  • @addcarl1
    @addcarl1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you so much for this! Keep up the good work!

  • @jzharayjarol2543
    @jzharayjarol2543 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for all this great info and the links too! Honestly was going to just face smash it but I can get to insane pretty easily now.

  • @FukoSan
    @FukoSan 6 месяцев назад +4

    I avoided researching about this boss fight until today and oh man, didn't expect it to have so many layers. I have the units to do insane, but I hope I have the patience to learn how to execute it correctly

  • @stokesia0622
    @stokesia0622 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the guide Causew my favorite Blue Archive content creator

  • @mrtrainee
    @mrtrainee 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you! So useful and helpful info here and in an easy way to understand!

  • @goudaonion
    @goudaonion 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the raid guide Cashew.

  • @duckh0le859
    @duckh0le859 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the guide!

  • @pythonpeanut
    @pythonpeanut 6 месяцев назад +1

    I started playing a month ago lvl 41 by now, the game is fun and the girls are lovely specially Haruka, but now that I know the game have raid with mechanics like wow, I love it! Thx for the guide it's really well explained.

  • @kkj_-ry4kt
    @kkj_-ry4kt 6 месяцев назад +2

    The example team building help a lot 👍

  • @tealk1635
    @tealk1635 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the hard work

  • @MrCrazyhead78
    @MrCrazyhead78 6 месяцев назад

    I really appreciate the explanation. With this I was able to get gold in this raid. I was worried I didn't have the right students.

  • @Lunk42
    @Lunk42 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks as always Causew your raid guides are extremely helpful. Can't wait to get destroyed by this raid since I don't have any of the newer meta units for it.

  • @Alexandragon1
    @Alexandragon1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thx for the guide!
    This is nuts...

  • @gespy796
    @gespy796 6 месяцев назад

    could only finish extreme difficulty
    ngl it was fun learning the ropes the only head scratcher is the soundwave and what each do so this video really helped

  • @melchizedekpsj
    @melchizedekpsj 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you very much! 🙏❤️✨

  • @CrnaStrela
    @CrnaStrela 6 месяцев назад

    I really like how this TA is the only TA where you restart the whole segment no matter how much HP Gregorius had remaining. So the phases are time based (or music based if like it) instead of the usual HP based. No matter how much or how little damage you deal, Gregorius will never jump skip the performance.
    It is also one of the few TA where even if you have every required students, you still can't just faceroll it. It's a fresh experience from usual rotate ako himari and one dps girl to boom the boss.

  • @ahmaddanisaputra3580
    @ahmaddanisaputra3580 6 месяцев назад +1

    thank you sensei

  • @Kzarr4979
    @Kzarr4979 6 месяцев назад

    Another blessing guide from Causew :pog:

  • @SpaceGh0st
    @SpaceGh0st 6 месяцев назад +4

    Excellent guide, thank you!

  • @vicenteparicio5296
    @vicenteparicio5296 6 месяцев назад

    I'm just very happy I have a fully upgraded Cheer Hibiki. She's the reason I'll be able to get this one in Extreme because damn, I miss all the other key students

  • @PantsMan21
    @PantsMan21 6 месяцев назад

    Who is this smart and handsome guy making such a good guide

  • @Chaoszwaihander3434
    @Chaoszwaihander3434 6 месяцев назад +1

    aaaay so complicated, but thank you friend! Maybe I will be able to get at least gold since I got Mina and S. Saki in the same 10 pulls,, anyways that's fine, I can't expect much as a new player

  • @yasue1794
    @yasue1794 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you 🙏

  • @zo4199
    @zo4199 6 месяцев назад

    thanks king, I can get midori finally

  • @sagiridesu7230
    @sagiridesu7230 6 месяцев назад

    This looks fun even though it's really hard. I'm at lv.75 and doesn't have much students but I'm looking forward to how I'll progress this year.

  • @CamilleSensei
    @CamilleSensei 6 месяцев назад

    Hiero Jumpscare xD
    We miss that buddy 🥲

  • @shipn
    @shipn 6 месяцев назад +1

    i think what they wanted was, creating another boss that felt like goz. and by that i mean the inmersion it produces.

  • @stef2337
    @stef2337 6 месяцев назад +1

    he truly debuff your sanity to -0
    More sad that Nexon ruin Aru strat, thank you Nexon once again

  • @jinzerox
    @jinzerox 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the guide, I decide this is the 1st raid that I stay at Hardcore. The required students for this raid are just too much for a F2P like me to go invest on new students & learn all of those mechanics. Hell, I will even consider quitting the game as a whole when the Sonic Boss raid come out in the future.

  • @TheAkrillion
    @TheAkrillion 6 месяцев назад

    Considering who I have vs who I don't, I feel like Mina, Reisa, Shigure, Rumi, Saya and S.Miyu would make a great team for Greg.

  • @CdGeste
    @CdGeste 6 месяцев назад

    Captain Mine strat here i goo!!

  • @vincethebanana
    @vincethebanana 6 месяцев назад

    Honestly I think just knowing about the debuffs and actually using AOE makes it actually very easy.

  • @airandou5238
    @airandou5238 6 месяцев назад

    thanks for the guide, but I have a question. How do I know which debuffs stacks and which debuffs overwrite?

  • @user-ns1zj2io2h
    @user-ns1zj2io2h 6 месяцев назад

    I used miyu (swimsuit) so I can damage those minions in the circle and the minions that's near greg

  • @jakethereaper2060
    @jakethereaper2060 6 месяцев назад

    how do I tell what debuffs can stack with what, since my debuffers are NY Haruka, Nagisa and Mine but Mine was overkill in terms of debuffing so I swapped to Akane but im guessing her debuffs dont stack with Nagisas and I have no idea who else to bring as a unit to be the 5th debuff

  • @reignradiant2432
    @reignradiant2432 6 месяцев назад

    Am missing a lot of debuffers for this....
    Can only use Koharu, Azusa, Nagisa, and Akane, since they're good enough
    While I need to build both NY Haruka and Marina to cover and borrow Minori
    Thanks for the guide, will use this to know if am missing something
    Edit, I forgot NY Haruka is Special not Striker, dang it. Might try to roll for S Saki, I think

  • @LeinVansten
    @LeinVansten 6 месяцев назад +2

    I agree with Nexon taking it too far on designing this boss. It's a bit overloaded specially coming from the last raid which is Binah.

  • @d9zirable
    @d9zirable 6 месяцев назад

    new glitch: If using M.Aris EX on organ or choir member they will completely disappear in the next choir phase
    from comment on Arisu Archive video

  • @GoldenFPSz
    @GoldenFPSz 6 месяцев назад +4

    Apparantly there is bug that cause dmg to the choir not reflecting against greg during JP initial release

    • @vgrunner5759
      @vgrunner5759 6 месяцев назад +5

      This only applied to 2/7 of the choir members on the 2nd and 3rd minutes iirc. Global may have this fixed

  • @diegolozano4967
    @diegolozano4967 6 месяцев назад

    So a team with Mina and S.Saki and Nagisa with Minori can deal enough dmg ?

  • @tardwrangler1019
    @tardwrangler1019 6 месяцев назад

    It would be great if my units stayed in the s.hoshino ex circle

  • @VaporwaveSunset
    @VaporwaveSunset 6 месяцев назад

    Is this possible with only 1 - 2 star students only?

  • @yatagarasu_merui
    @yatagarasu_merui 6 месяцев назад +1

    Gold looks better anyway, Aruji-dono

  • @rinkujoka232
    @rinkujoka232 6 месяцев назад +1

    Without mine and ako.... I might struggle on doing aru clear in Insane

  • @90enemies
    @90enemies 6 месяцев назад

    I pulled Nagisa for Gregorius,
    Just to end up not using her because I dont have Minori or the Swimsuit Rabbits. Aru Team it is.

  • @Diceboxx
    @Diceboxx 6 месяцев назад

    Ngl I managed to bring his hp down x90 on a blind extreme run with random students slapped together

  • @pyrored5212
    @pyrored5212 6 месяцев назад +6

    As a lvl.79 newer player who only plans on clearing up to extreme, is there anyone I can borrow to do a comfortable one team clear? The only team slots I have planed out for now are Nagisa and Koharu with maybe maid Yuzu or s.Miyu.

    • @tonikinTV
      @tonikinTV 6 месяцев назад +1

      minori is the best dps on this raid, considering the 😎 mood, extreme will be baby mode with her, just know u need to survive long enough for minori to do enough dmg 👍

    • @baplox8323
      @baplox8323 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yep as the comment above said, fully maxed minori is the best borrow option. You'd just need striker students who could survive while minori gets the job done.

    • @abstract7272
      @abstract7272 6 месяцев назад

      are you on eu? i might help you out with a maxed minori

    • @pyrored5212
      @pyrored5212 6 месяцев назад

      @@baplox8323 Okay, so, Borrowed Minori for the Attacker. For strikers I was thinking Koharu, Marina, Aru and Akane. I wanted to bring Nagisa, but I might need NY.Haruka for more debuffs. Does this team seem okay?

    • @pyrored5212
      @pyrored5212 6 месяцев назад

      I'm on NA server. Thanks for the offer though. @@abstract7272

  • @Sr_Bobby
    @Sr_Bobby 6 месяцев назад

    Anyone knows if Focused Asault counts as debuff? 🤔

  • @xxvaltielxx1789
    @xxvaltielxx1789 6 месяцев назад +1

    My head hurts, I'm too dumb

  • @BoneyGaf
    @BoneyGaf 6 месяцев назад

    So you can’t turn the yellow wave to make it hit him instead of your team?
    So you only really have to worry about aiming the blue and white waves it seems?

  • @depressedtraingirl1056
    @depressedtraingirl1056 6 месяцев назад

    The boss is so cool but holy hell this is so complicated

  • @thgngugame7921
    @thgngugame7921 5 месяцев назад

    can you increase your voice volume?

  • @AsianRailgun
    @AsianRailgun 6 месяцев назад +1

    Is it possible to cancel an organ attack with groggy?

    • @causew
      @causew  6 месяцев назад +3

      I actually don't think i've seen it happen before, but I wouldnt be surprised if you could. If it is possible, the timing on it would be very awkward because to build Groggy you need to knock the choir down. Since you usually want to knock the choir asap so they don't murder your team, it's unlikely you'll line up the groggy timing with an organ you don't want. If you manage to make it work though, all the power to you!

  • @nicky4092
    @nicky4092 6 месяцев назад

    my brain exploded

  • @mkzhero
    @mkzhero 6 месяцев назад

    Can barely even keep track of the counter and all the enemies spawning, my student abilities and hp, but the need to keep track of the organ thing is already ridiculous... Not to mention you need to also have a student to actually attack it, or you're gonna spend a lot of your aoe! Can't even do the lvl 50 one without an assistant... Well, granted, i'm lvl 50 myself

  • @BapyTheSnowman
    @BapyTheSnowman 6 месяцев назад +1

    Atsuko fills both tank and team healer role, so its probably advisable to have her somewhere in a formation

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella 6 месяцев назад +4

      Atsuko can't tank for her life here because Greg is Blue attack type. Extreme and below, sure, but just use Koharu.

  • @inokori7146
    @inokori7146 6 месяцев назад +5

    i completely disagree in that the boss doesnt feel bad, the fight mechanics are clearly there to be exploited, but that doesnt change the fact that of the 10 or so core students needed for a reasonably comfy clear, 6 came out in the last 3 months, and the others are permanent units that saw little usage before the boss, so a lot of people skipped them (Reisa, Mine, etc)
    so yeah, i think this is the Dev's first massive L, Kurokage kinda is too, but Sonic is not as restrictive as people think, not to mention Ichika/Kasumi where well spaced with Vol.5 characters usefull for the fight
    in conclusion, Greg fucking sucks, JP hasnt had Hiero for a year, and i hope the same happens with Greg

    • @d9zirable
      @d9zirable 6 месяцев назад +1

      #BringBackHiero

  • @Potramon
    @Potramon 6 месяцев назад

    So knowing myself, i am not touching greg extreme.

  • @TMQuan202
    @TMQuan202 6 месяцев назад

    No mina, no s saki, no minori, no aru and mine. Welp I'm just stick to hardcore/extreme for now, hope club minori is stronk lol

  • @butteredsalmonella
    @butteredsalmonella 6 месяцев назад

    For once, Saya actually has a niche lol.

  • @andrewlawrence3308
    @andrewlawrence3308 6 месяцев назад +1

    Who can replace nagisa for the example team 1

    • @Mydlako
      @Mydlako 6 месяцев назад

      I'm gonna go with M.Yuzu

    • @Kindi001
      @Kindi001 6 месяцев назад +2

      if what you searching is aoe dmg, Maid Yuzu or Miyu swim suit do its role, tho you minus 1 debuff nagisa bring and auto heal

    • @andrewlawrence3308
      @andrewlawrence3308 6 месяцев назад

      Unrelated to the first question but should I save up for Yuzu eleph or just go with recruitment tickets for the grand assault shop. Also thanks for the answers

    • @maroXUprising
      @maroXUprising 6 месяцев назад

      @@andrewlawrence3308 Yeah, save to buy Yuzu elephs. i'll always pick up any of the purchasable character specific elephs that i don't have, in this case...i don't own mimori, i'll pick up both yuzu/mimori elephs anyways.

    • @lunafreed
      @lunafreed 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@andrewlawrence3308 go for the 10-pull ticket every time before buying anything else

  • @ChengDilan
    @ChengDilan 6 месяцев назад +1

    I just want to complete extreme difficulty

  • @tai4077
    @tai4077 6 месяцев назад

    can I put a debuff on the choir guys?

    • @swaggjuice11
      @swaggjuice11 6 месяцев назад

      no, it is not two way. you'll need to put the debuff on greg itself so it reflects its debuffs onto the choir

    • @tai4077
      @tai4077 6 месяцев назад

      @@swaggjuice11 so students with their debuff in basic skill cannot use in greg right? Bc we cant decide the target for them

    • @swaggjuice11
      @swaggjuice11 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@tai4077 yes. majority of the basic skill debuffers cant use their debuffs for greg due to this
      only a few are able to work like Saya having AoE on her basic or Azusa's having the correct timing to activate right when the minions disappear so it hits Greg

  • @ToirSimps
    @ToirSimps 6 месяцев назад +1

    imagine reading

  • @DocLudwig
    @DocLudwig 6 месяцев назад

    i hate thinking

  • @ItzTonkla
    @ItzTonkla 6 месяцев назад +1

    What even is this game anymore.. why would they keep pushing super complex bosses out? I mean it's cool but it's too overwhelming for the majority of the players. Even worse is that they don't teach you at all how to fight the boss and you have to look it up yourself from youtube or something (if guide videos even exist at all)

  • @naeangold
    @naeangold 6 месяцев назад

    Wtf, DoT works too??? Whose that bastard yesterday telling me that DOT doesnt count? 😠

    • @causew
      @causew  6 месяцев назад

      DOT adds to the counter, but it does not spread from Greg to the Choir. They may have been getting it confused.

  • @mobage9770
    @mobage9770 6 месяцев назад +5

    I really don't undestand how people can think this fight is overwhelming when it's literally scripted and the same every time. Raids in game like FFXIV or WoW are way heavier mechanincs-wise. Even Dragalia had more depth in some fights.
    Awesome video, btw

    • @cartoonvideos5
      @cartoonvideos5 6 месяцев назад +3

      This is a pay2win pedo mobile game, not a full blown MMO.

    • @abstract7272
      @abstract7272 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@cartoonvideos5 Imagine calling an anime game pedo mobile game lmao

    • @cartoonvideos5
      @cartoonvideos5 6 месяцев назад

      @@abstract7272 haha

    • @novaboy1174
      @novaboy1174 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@abstract7272he's not wrong tho. People want to seggs Kokona and she's 11!

    • @causew
      @causew  6 месяцев назад +3

      It's related to target audiences. Gamers like yourself who are seasoned and well played will be fine, especially with how alike they tried to make this boss compared to actual MMO's - but seasoned MMO gamers are usually the minority of people playing Mobile Gachagames. The vast majority of players playing Blue Archive are just regular casuals who might not be so experienced with games and don't have the broad range of experiences they would have picked up from playing other games for years or even decades.
      I'm like yourself and have played games for many decades, and I was able to intuitively pick up Greg's mechanics quite quickly. However I fully respect that not everyone has the same experience and I'm happy to help people catch up in the knowledge gap to hopefully make what *should* be a casual game actually a bit more casual.

  • @Phaeron123
    @Phaeron123 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is easily the worst raid. Completely overtuned

  • @shipn
    @shipn 6 месяцев назад

    ok after playing this. is easily the worst raid in the game, its not fun at all lmao

    • @d9zirable
      @d9zirable 6 месяцев назад

      binah enjoyer???

    • @nicky4092
      @nicky4092 6 месяцев назад

      It is indeed the worst designed raid boss so far. If you don't have the specific students you'll have a hard time even in extreme difficult but if you do have and invested a lot on them you can even clear torment with 1 team. I managed to 1 team clear torment since I do have those specific students at high investment.

    • @d9zirable
      @d9zirable 6 месяцев назад

      @@nicky4092 Tell me how is binah or srkr better than this

    • @shipn
      @shipn 6 месяцев назад +1

      yea, its just so dumb. even when ppl claims this is very heavy mechanic wise, thats just far from the truth lol, mechs are so basic is easily the simplest part about it.
      having the cc countdown bugged also makes this incredibly inconsistent to do because theres just no guarantee on how the boss will turn out every time u mock battle...
      ah yea, ex can be dumb but the cc countdown is just so much more manageable that even if u only manage to keep it yellow, still killable due to being not blatantly overtuned as insane +

  • @daviddavidson1450
    @daviddavidson1450 6 месяцев назад

    What a shit raid. I play this game to relax, not do homework after work. If they make complicated raids they should at least make mechanics easy to understand. If I have to look up tactics online, they failed. Thanks for the explanation.

    • @novaboy1174
      @novaboy1174 6 месяцев назад +1

      Oh boy then you probably won't like Kurokage the purple raid either. Very specific student requirements and if you don't have S.Hanako...then RIP

    • @grid9343
      @grid9343 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I personally feel the same. It feels so unnecessarily difficult for no real reason other than to put in "artificial gameplay".

    • @d9zirable
      @d9zirable 6 месяцев назад

      gold looks better anyway

    • @EriconatorV2
      @EriconatorV2 6 месяцев назад

      But it's not that hard