[Arknights] Degenbrecher can Replace Mlynar ?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024
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  • @Sciel
    @Sciel  11 месяцев назад +161

    Degenbrecher is better than Mlynar X
    There are cases where Degenbrecher can replace Mlynar O
    After using Degenbrecher at Ascension15 for over a week, I came to the conclusion that surprisingly,
    it is possible to use Degenbrecher instead of Mlynar, and in some cases she is even better.
    Especially, the fact that she can use CC like Disarm even when she is E1 increases safety of the team.
    데겐블레허가 무에나보다 좋다 X
    대체가 가능한 경우가 있다 O
    일주일 좀 넘게 15승천에서 데겐블레허를 굴려본 결과, 의외로 무에나 대신 쓰는 것이 가능하고, 더 나은 경우도 있다는 판단을 내렸습니다.
    특히 1정예 상태에서 전율이라는 상태이상을 사용 가능하다는 것이 안전성을 대폭 올려줍니다.

    • @mirch854
      @mirch854 11 месяцев назад +14

      in my opinion Degenbrecher very useful and easy to play, but there are still many very difficult games but easy to pass with Mlynar, or in some games must have him.

  • @Dr.eleven
    @Dr.eleven 11 месяцев назад +477

    The answer is always “Just use both.”

    • @pixelice6206
      @pixelice6206 11 месяцев назад +19

      Both is good

    • @redbone9553
      @redbone9553 11 месяцев назад +29

      In IS, the option of choice is often limited.

    • @PekoraMamiCouncilHK
      @PekoraMamiCouncilHK 11 месяцев назад +27

      In fact, this does not even answer the question.
      We Have IS and CCs
      Our slots are strictly limited.
      We have to find out which one do better in most encounters

    • @marielcarey4288
      @marielcarey4288 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@redbone9553 in IS just keep restarting till you get both :D -and good rng-

    • @thunderstorm4682
      @thunderstorm4682 11 месяцев назад +1

      Smart doctor

  • @anhdotram5947
    @anhdotram5947 11 месяцев назад +147

    Mlynar still have his niche where you can comfortably put him anywhere without worry about him getting squished by strong enemy . Yes, i know "funny horse uncle can't block haha" but that unique niche somehow help him a lot in many hard content

    • @Kiasis
      @Kiasis 11 месяцев назад +18

      That's valid, until I realize she can Disarm, now she could block AND take no damage
      Gladly the proc chance without skill is 10%, so this is still not reliable, gladly, she's so damn broken already with that 10%, imagine it was 50

    • @wadiyarabhijeet
      @wadiyarabhijeet 4 месяца назад

      Mlynar I wanted him so bad but Gache God had something better waiting for me and I got Degenbrecher. After using her I now don't feel like Mlynar is not needed in my team. Sorry but he got replaced for me 😢

  • @ANTSPlantation
    @ANTSPlantation 11 месяцев назад +72

    Strange comparison honestly. For quick cycles of dps go for degen. For medium cycles of insane total damage go for mlynar. Also mlynar costs 2 times less as well as being way more tanky. His unique 0 block off skill is very niche and comes in handy in many situations.

    • @KommandantAegis
      @KommandantAegis 11 месяцев назад +6

      Also taunt

    • @minorminer
      @minorminer 11 месяцев назад +6

      i think the video refers to early operator choice for integrated strategies
      where you cant have them both every stage

  • @タコヤキ君-n1f
    @タコヤキ君-n1f 11 месяцев назад +164

    Cost: mlynar
    Durability: mlynar
    Total DMG: mlynar
    DPS : Degenbrecher
    Convenience: Degenbrecher
    SP : Degenbrecher
    Range: Draw
    Result: draw

    • @PekoraMamiCouncilHK
      @PekoraMamiCouncilHK 11 месяцев назад +35

      "block"

    • @mysteryofn2955
      @mysteryofn2955 11 месяцев назад +25

      Helidrop. So it's technically Degenbrecher's win. Although I know Mlynar will still be used more.

    • @staremperor8741
      @staremperor8741 11 месяцев назад +4

      For the range degenbrecher wins since she can also hit behind her

    • @georgezhang1573
      @georgezhang1573 11 месяцев назад +31

      @@staremperor8741mlynar reaches farther, which is often more important(can face any direction on melee tile, but need tile in range) also the tile count is 14 for mlynar and 13 for degen, so quite close.

    • @staremperor8741
      @staremperor8741 11 месяцев назад

      @@georgezhang1573 that’s true but it’s compensated by attacking behind her, which will sometimes be important

  • @momomunsta8887
    @momomunsta8887 10 месяцев назад +18

    Based off the comments it seems the click bait title worked

  • @haezer7171
    @haezer7171 11 месяцев назад +20

    Oh God I hope they rework Texas basic atk animation. It's so weird man 😭

  • @nguyenhoanganhkhoa163
    @nguyenhoanganhkhoa163 11 месяцев назад +28

    Degen: Quick Burst
    Mlynar: Long Decimation
    Conclusion: Both is good

  • @EtherSword
    @EtherSword 11 месяцев назад +9

    I think I seen like 10 different videos of how op Degen is and still want to keep watching them lol.

  • @Anthony-vh6ef
    @Anthony-vh6ef 11 месяцев назад +43

    that texas skin is hilarious, that sword is so big.

    • @marielcarey4288
      @marielcarey4288 11 месяцев назад +1

      Just by the icon I at first thought she got a schoolgirl skin

  • @Rafalui
    @Rafalui 11 месяцев назад +51

    Why replace when you can have them both?❤⚔️

    • @Ahmadkhadr.
      @Ahmadkhadr. 4 месяца назад

      not in some content like cc or IS

  • @ikyiAlter
    @ikyiAlter 11 месяцев назад +16

    Uncle can taunt. Such a great mechanic.

    • @nanu604
      @nanu604 10 месяцев назад +4

      For IS?? hell nah

  • @I_Love_Puzzle_from_Arknights
    @I_Love_Puzzle_from_Arknights 11 месяцев назад +51

    Why not have both mommy and daddy?

    • @fabbae215
      @fabbae215 11 месяцев назад +6

      ofc it's for the ppl who have neither, which to roll first something like that (like me no mlynar yet ;-; )

    • @BasedStrong
      @BasedStrong 11 месяцев назад

      What if u unlucky and ftp?

    • @frauflaw100edibleorganicco9
      @frauflaw100edibleorganicco9 11 месяцев назад +6

      Why waste resource when u alrady have 1 that is a little bit superior to the other option? Growing a 6* isnt cheap u know & resource for gacha isnt unlimited either
      Degen only offer damage while mlynar has the advantage of taunt & low cost, besides the similar damage to degen

    • @fabbae215
      @fabbae215 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@frauflaw100edibleorganicco9 it depends still, they both offer big damage but still different for each use case to be fair.
      But yeah 6 stars are just expensive both in orundums and in resources in general.
      For me, just pick one and you're good to go. Both are great anyway

    • @I_Love_Puzzle_from_Arknights
      @I_Love_Puzzle_from_Arknights 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@frauflaw100edibleorganicco9 I already have Mylnar but I'm extremely weak against tomboyish women 😭

  • @히카와쿄우카
    @히카와쿄우카 11 месяцев назад +12

    이네스 나왔을때도 백머엘 대체 가능하냐? 얘기가 있었죠...
    그때도 결론은 같았습니다. 둘다쓰면 그만 아님?

  • @LetMeFLY649
    @LetMeFLY649 7 месяцев назад +2

    6:26, dang, wasn't expecting a lore accurate Mostia

  • @kurei5467
    @kurei5467 11 месяцев назад +18

    is this the same question as "Can ya2 replace Texalt"

    • @BasedStrong
      @BasedStrong 11 месяцев назад +5

      And answer is no

    • @Shadow6OO
      @Shadow6OO 11 месяцев назад +18

      ​@BasedStrong No, the actual answer to that is sometimes.
      @kurei5467 As far as the comparison goes, it sortta fits. Similar to how Yato is immediate burst damage on deploy and retreat versus Texas being deployed and usually staying in a bit longer to deal a bit more overall dps, Degenbrecher does a ton of immediate damage on her skill use before it's over and she's charging up for the next use while Mylnar does tons more damage overall during his longer duration.
      Simplified:
      Mylnar (duration) is to Texas what Degenbrecher (burst) is to Yato.
      It depends on what you want in the moment, though Degen does have more convenience and a special disarm effect as well.

    • @PekoraMamiCouncilHK
      @PekoraMamiCouncilHK 11 месяцев назад +4

      No
      Different class or skills, different damage output window, different damage type and utility
      You should not put them together for comparison

    • @nanu604
      @nanu604 10 месяцев назад +3

      Lowkey yes because IS. WE NEED TO CHOOSE WHO TO TAKE because gaining ops are tough especially in ascension 15

  • @WordingtonComment
    @WordingtonComment 10 месяцев назад +1

    damn her 3rd skill is auto recovery type, she would be crazy if paired with saga.

  • @heichell
    @heichell 11 месяцев назад +4

    1:34 특사스 퇴근하니까 당황해서 어? 하는 소린가

  • @cover1963
    @cover1963 11 месяцев назад +22

    Sorry but most insane comparasion cuz they are different uses 😭
    Cuz 1 mylnar has more aoe duration and is TD, also bait attacks, lower cost and has more ramping dmg while degen is literal just redploy nuke, to say she replaces him is so to underestimate mylnar by a lot
    2 degen has new toy syndrome and rn is seen as the best unit cuz of this but doesn’t mean she overclasses the others
    3 they are going to use both cuz of the ramping dps 😭 there literal no reason not to have both
    4 she has a module while mylnar doesn’t yet so literal he will over class her in the future anyway

    • @nanu604
      @nanu604 10 месяцев назад +1

      IS. THEY fight each other for guard tickets

    • @robink8317
      @robink8317 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@nanu604 if the question for you is which one to get then mlynar always beats degen because he is more unique than her, degen is a just a nuke, mlynar is a weird ranged tanker with an aoe attack that last for quite a while.

    • @nanu604
      @nanu604 10 месяцев назад

      @@robink8317 laughs in disarm

    • @nanu604
      @nanu604 10 месяцев назад

      @@robink8317 laughs in sp recharge + 0.5sp/s, laughs in increased attack upon skill activation 1S

    • @nanu604
      @nanu604 10 месяцев назад

      @robink8317 laughs in Feater Angelina weedy and God save the king tachanka attack buffed with the spinach can and siracusan pasta, along with Parfum etc etc.

  • @Yammatti
    @Yammatti 5 месяцев назад

    She is better and it isn't like super better but still better
    But Młynar will surely still have his uses and same goes for degen
    She is a great addition and having both for when one is needed is indeed great vegetables

  • @lokouba
    @lokouba 11 месяцев назад +4

    Thats like saying Irene replaces SilverAsh

  • @Dark_WolfPL
    @Dark_WolfPL 11 месяцев назад +4

    Did Cannot stole the buffed tile?
    Also what drugs was Passenger taking?

  • @ironlegion1580
    @ironlegion1580 11 месяцев назад

    She does stomp every damage ops tbh..... Including Irene.......

  • @JustSick_forever
    @JustSick_forever 6 месяцев назад

    For whatever reason she is like 50% more efficient to buffs than any other swordmaster😊

  • @minethyl8284
    @minethyl8284 11 месяцев назад

    What is that guy saying? “All hell to…”?

  • @김현수-o1z8o
    @김현수-o1z8o 11 месяцев назад +1

    이즈믹에서 패신저에 자동 스킬 거부반응 걸어주고싶다

  • @UnscathedAndUnstucked
    @UnscathedAndUnstucked 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is not relate to the question but NAH, both is Hot.

  • @edceltolenntino7147
    @edceltolenntino7147 7 месяцев назад

    nah not gonna replace my horsy ~ that beach can wreck out

  • @Wish-Ender
    @Wish-Ender 6 месяцев назад

    특사스 특야토, 백파이프 이네스처럼 둘 다 쓰면 되는거 아닌가?

  • @azhame100
    @azhame100 11 месяцев назад

    哦!可以用白鐵的工具讓她更快

  • @김이-r7b
    @김이-r7b 11 месяцев назад +3

    이상할정도로 남캐만 성능으로 내주는 직군 원거리가드

  • @anthonysteve8783
    @anthonysteve8783 11 месяцев назад +8

    Sorry Sciel but u kinda bad at making Comparison video, There is no Explanation or opinion share on the video just a game footage only... Really lack of Information on the video itself the same as the Thypon vs Thorns that u make.
    I hope you can Improved it in the future next time.

    • @Khroniclas
      @Khroniclas 11 месяцев назад +2

      At least with Typhon vs Thorns they had the same purpose on his squad (Infinite duration, physical ranged damage). In that video he also showed both operators doing the same stages, but in this video he is only really showing Degenbrecher, in a very uncontrollable environment as well.
      Having a longer burst skill vs an instant nuke burst skill is way too different to even consider any sort of similarities.
      Like seriously, the only similarity between Mlynar and Degenbrecher is that both have 4k+ DPH which is a completely pointless statistic and can't be used for any sort of comparison *or* benchmark to begin with.

  • @TopGlobalRac1sm
    @TopGlobalRac1sm 7 месяцев назад

    after seeing the comments, it's confirmed that arknight fanbase=genshin fanbase (they're definitely the same person).

  • @lazuardialdi2646
    @lazuardialdi2646 5 месяцев назад

    WAT ABOUT FUCJING RAY AND CHEN ALTER????

  • @justsomeplayer3225
    @justsomeplayer3225 11 месяцев назад +1

    No.

  • @hendrihendri3939
    @hendrihendri3939 11 месяцев назад +2

    Can we talk about that 13K damage Typhoon?

    • @clytievangogh2421
      @clytievangogh2421 11 месяцев назад

      what kind of relic combo did he get for that dmg 😮

  • @Guythatlivesaquietlife
    @Guythatlivesaquietlife 11 месяцев назад +1

    She's doing the get back for silver ash

  • @yozakura1848
    @yozakura1848 11 месяцев назад

    Why not both tbh

  • @koschwarz275
    @koschwarz275 11 месяцев назад +1

    Just Ryuzakiichi it.

  • @B배경엑스트라
    @B배경엑스트라 11 месяцев назад +7

    그냥 둘다쓰고싶지만 항상 부족한 희망...

  • @stef2337
    @stef2337 11 месяцев назад +1

    She must pull

  • @浮尘-v7m
    @浮尘-v7m 11 месяцев назад

    有几关的站位和操作有点抽象

  • @caffeholic432
    @caffeholic432 11 месяцев назад +4

    목소리에서..왠지 더블오 그 안경잡이 대령 눈나 스멜이 느껴지는군요
    ...성우보니 진짜였네

  • @anhkhoanguyen8562
    @anhkhoanguyen8562 11 месяцев назад +3

    I haven't read Degenbrencher's skill, what does she has over other swordmasters, i.e Irene and Chen (with module of course), other than better damage perhaps?

    • @dimastrisnawan8867
      @dimastrisnawan8867 11 месяцев назад +40

      just read then

    • @sorashiro7611
      @sorashiro7611 11 месяцев назад +5

      Auto recovery on s3, disarm mechanic (iirc it prevents enemies from using their auto attacks), CC (gladiia s3 pull to an extent + stun)

    • @fogheta
      @fogheta 11 месяцев назад +3

      Dmg ofc, Auto recovery CC S3, disarm is MASSIVE, even in general content a lot of enemies just do insane dmg normals and she completely invalidates that - quite a few clears now just have stall a tanky enemy + degenbrecher S2 spam to perma disarm as long as you get a proc or two of her normals. Also during her S3 she's Invul and stun + freeze immune, like Ch'en - really good against the eggs, for example.

    • @electrobrotm217
      @electrobrotm217 11 месяцев назад

      She also attacks everyone in her skill range, unlike Chen's S3 which is single-target and Irene's S3 which has an AoE caster splash effect on her bombardment.

    • @aadipdip1326
      @aadipdip1326 11 месяцев назад +10

      Let's just summarise what he does
      - Invincibility frame similar to Chen.
      - Huge AoE similar to Irene.
      - Hit 6 units (including air units) at the same time similar to Cutter.
      - Disarm
      - Huge Damage (Almost 2x Irene damage)
      - Pull everyone closer to her after the skill ends like Gladiia.
      - Low SP cost, and lastly...
      - Auto SP recovery...
      And everything that i said above is what her S3 does. 😅

  • @kroa2621
    @kroa2621 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nope

  • @yjin93290
    @yjin93290 11 месяцев назад

    5층에서 제일 역겨운맵이 어디임?

  • @existencex3855
    @existencex3855 9 месяцев назад

    Ah yes another texas2 vs yato2😮

  • @icebang_ak
    @icebang_ak 5 месяцев назад

    그냥 둘 다 쓰자

  • @TerraGreatestLoveMachine
    @TerraGreatestLoveMachine 11 месяцев назад +9

    Texas skin is just... wierd

    • @marielcarey4288
      @marielcarey4288 11 месяцев назад

      How?

    • @clytievangogh2421
      @clytievangogh2421 11 месяцев назад

      weird laid back stance and upward slash, tho the effect are cool🤌@@marielcarey4288

  • @烏龍茶-x2y
    @烏龍茶-x2y 10 месяцев назад

    Why do you use Japanese voices?

  • @Rodiacreed
    @Rodiacreed 11 месяцев назад +1

    Degenbrecher is the guard queen ❤

  • @junghejyu
    @junghejyu 10 месяцев назад

    개멋졍

  • @waffen3978
    @waffen3978 11 месяцев назад

    스킬 쓰면 걍 다 썰리네;;

  • @mysteryofn2955
    @mysteryofn2955 11 месяцев назад +6

    As I can see, she will perfectly serve as a sidegrade to such a mistake as Mlynar. Especially for waifu enjoyers until Shining alter as a Liberator Guard (copium).

    • @obsiangravel
      @obsiangravel 11 месяцев назад +10

      If you consider Młynar a mistake I'm sure you must also hate Texas and Yato right.

    • @Snowdrop-s3v
      @Snowdrop-s3v 11 месяцев назад +9

      ​@obsiangravel tbh, yes, they all are mistakes, because how they deal unrecoverable brain damage to community

    • @obsiangravel
      @obsiangravel 11 месяцев назад

      @@Snowdrop-s3v we are witnessing it's effects in this very comment section.

    • @ramahikari1014
      @ramahikari1014 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@obsiangravel wait how tf Texas and Yato is relevant to his comment? Both of them are completely different from both Mylnar or Degenbrecher.

    • @obsiangravel
      @obsiangravel 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@ramahikari1014 they're all overtuned nuker dps that pretty much delete the difficulty of the game. How's that hard to grasp?

  • @twinstr
    @twinstr 11 месяцев назад +1

  • @Ender_Wiggin03
    @Ender_Wiggin03 11 месяцев назад +2

    Chen power crept...

    • @marielcarey4288
      @marielcarey4288 11 месяцев назад +2

      No, her sp recovery for allies is still there and imo that'll make me have her on my team more

    • @erics4133
      @erics4133 11 месяцев назад +6

      At least Chen still has use as a sp battery. It’s Irene that’s the one who’s truly powercrept.

    • @Nian91131
      @Nian91131 11 месяцев назад +2

      Said by someone who doesnt use chen nor even know what she is used for 😒

    • @marielcarey4288
      @marielcarey4288 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@erics4133 Irene may not be powercrept... let's just wait for levitate to become meta in a few years

    • @PekoraMamiCouncilHK
      @PekoraMamiCouncilHK 11 месяцев назад +1

      I would rather quit play if count on Chen as SP battery
      Because it just dump
      Just rethink the deploy order and position to save a slot and deploy count

  • @buinguyenman
    @buinguyenman 11 месяцев назад +1

    when her banner comming to global

    • @fogheta
      @fogheta 11 месяцев назад +5

      She's in Reeds slot, so July-ish

    • @manyblock4192
      @manyblock4192 11 месяцев назад +3

      New Operator in CN? Just count around 6 month after they released

  • @TerryBear167
    @TerryBear167 11 месяцев назад +7

    rip mlynar, bro fell off 😔😔💀💀

    • @mudrockisqueen
      @mudrockisqueen 11 месяцев назад +17

      No. Degenbrecher burst damage is really high however mlynar total damage and range is still bigger (atleast without buffs 💀)

    • @BasedStrong
      @BasedStrong 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@mudrockisqueen what is total damage if she has faster cycle ?

    • @mudrockisqueen
      @mudrockisqueen 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@BasedStrong I know but I think its not so fast what she deals more damage than mlynar (again without buffs)

    • @marielcarey4288
      @marielcarey4288 11 месяцев назад +2

      Midnar rip only killing 5 elites every second instead of 10 smh smh unplayable trash

    • @obsiangravel
      @obsiangravel 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@BasedStrongBoss fight.

  • @alasterclavis9480
    @alasterclavis9480 11 месяцев назад

    yes finally you can make "waifu only squad" for replace mlynar to any stage

  • @Spectacure
    @Spectacure 5 месяцев назад

    Chen better 🤷