It doesn't bother me that a straight actor played a gay character because it is acting. But it is funny, I saw The Idea of Us and for a split second I thought...that is Henry and he should be with Alex. LOL I thought that because of the power of Red White and Royal Blue. I am happy that straight actors are comfortable with playing gay characters! And sadly yes, I think if an actor comes out gay, it limits his or her roles.
I don't agree that his acting choices are as calculated as you posit, beyond simply choosing interesting characters to play. I don't imagine him thinking, "Hmmm, time to go gay again..." Telling more nuanced, honest, powerful, funny, exciting queer stories is what's important to me, whether the actor is queer or not.
@@satireskeptic6787 I get that. I'd solidly place Handsome Devil, RWRB, and Mary & George under "queer cinema." Those are definitely roles that grabbed attention. I became a fan of his after viewing RWRB, then went back to view everything else he'd done prior. I'm a fan now and look forward to seeing whatever he wants to take on. He's got Three Bags Full, The Masters of the Universe, and RWRB 2 coming up.
With his extraordinary talent, he would've got to fame sooner or later. It just so happened that he got cast gay roles and got famous on this one gay role in Red White and Royal Blue which had a very well-written script based on a best-seller. Other actors have gotten gay roles too but they didn't necessarily get famous. Do you remember all the other male actors who played those male courtesans of King James in Mary & George? Do you remember who played Earl of Somerset, the first male courtesan that Nicholas Galitzine's role George bumped off? He got a lot of screen time too and he's not too bad in acting either. Exactly my point. Nicholas Galitzine got famous fair and square and no controversy.
Well it depends he became known because of playing gay royals (I.E Red White and Royal Blue) and he did many others. When the industry type casts you it is hard to break out of it especially if you lean into it like he does. Not saying its wrong just interesting.
@@satireskeptic6787 No he became known due to a very well-written romantic comedy with a heart-warming love story in which he just happened to play a gay character. Script is everything. He's played quite a few gay/bi roles before Red White and Royal Blue but he didn't become known? And he would've become known for playing a heterosexual character in the movie "The Idea of You" if that movie had come out first before Red White and Royal Blue judging by the success of the movie but it came out after Red White and Royal Blue so now we would never know. And it's the director of Mary & George who approached Nicholas for the role of George not the other way around so he's hardly "leaning into it". And I honestly feel he's actually trying to get away from gay roles to avoid being typecast with them. He does not play any gay roles in his two upcoming projects "Three Bags Full" (another movie with a great story which I am really looking forward to seeing) and Master of Universe. Let's see how well he fares.
@@dttra566 the success of the idea of you is directly tied to the Celebrity status of him and Anne Hathaway if he did that movie pre RWB and with someone less famous than Anne it would not have performed nearly as well
@@satireskeptic6787 Well like I said, now we would just never know because "The Idea of You" is another movie with very good script with a very heart-warming story. Like i said, script is everything!! If you look at every single famous actor, they all made it with movies with very good script with stories that captured audience's heart. Nicholas is no exception. I find he does better with heart-warming feel-good stories because he's just so handsome that the audience just wants to see him being happy.
IMO he played the gay roles perfectly especially in Mary & George because in one of the scenes I actually thought of gay porn. He plays his roles very much differently from others
Straight actors can play a gay character (Thank you Heath Ledger for Ennis Del Mar), the point is not here. At the begining, the "queer actor for queer role" was to adress : - The poor quality of gay characters in the industry, - The fact that openly queer actors could'nt get major roles, especially in Rom Com because they were not straight To be honnest, i'm not confortable with this claim. It could be use by producers in the other side to only give major roles to straight actors, and it does not provide a solution for non openly LGBT actors. Regarding Nicholas Galitzine case, he is a great storyteller, and i like his performances, regardless his sexual orientation
He's an EXCELLENT actor who plays all his roles with incredible insight and sensitivity. It's ridiculous to think that a straight actor can't play queer or vice versa. Actors ACT--they portray someone they're not. It's a moot point. By the way, I think the term, "queer baiting," is offensive. Haven't we really moved beyond the gay-straight dichotomy?
@@satireskeptic6787 I don't agree. I think it's sexism. But that's the opinion I hold. It has been similar for Black, Hispanic, and Asian actors in the past--which was racist.
@@satireskeptic6787 So what? "queer baiting" equals click-bate. Luke Evans, Jim Parsons, Sarah Paulson, and Neal Patrick Harris all got their start playing straight roles, were they straight baiting or were they working actors?
Well actually it was a question not a statement it's not "he's queer baiting" it's "is he queer baiting?" Also I'm not for or against this I was just exploring the topic.
@@satireskeptic6787 It doesn't say "Is he queer baiting?" it clearly says "Queer Baiting?" The point is, who cares, he's an actor doing his job, he's not a "queer tease" which is what you're implying with your exploratory question.
He is an absolutely amazing actor, whatever he feels or identifies with, is only his business. Most likely he is a very decent person, that is the main thing.
Why are you attempting to smear Nicholas - what is that stupid thrill you get from attempting to belittle people who have made a success of their life while you sit and do nothing with your life. Lets not explore the life of Nicholas lets instead explore the life of that individual who would rather be known by a fake name (Satire Skeptic) than by his real name - what lies behind that very false/fake name?
I wanted to be a marriage and family therapist. There was several married women who told me that me as a single woman wouldn't make a bad marriage counselor. I had to put them in their place. I just said that the right counselor barely says anything during a session. They take therapy models and research to guide the clients. You don't need to be married to understand how a marriage works. Then just to be petty, i said that I learned from the mistakes of people like them to better help my clients.
@@satireskeptic6787 not sure what Robbie Taylor Hunt has to do with it Except that he has been the intimacy coordinator working with Nick in two films, red white and royal blue and Mary and George
He is awesome. And who cares if he is not gay? OMG, it's called ACTING and he does a fantastic job. Sorry, bit I love romcoms, and rwrb is one of my favorites, it so darn cute and sweet. This video is so malicious, so sad.
I don't relish the idea of straight men playing gay roles. It ruins the image when they star in straight roles. That is my opinion. I can never watch a movie with Galitzine again. His acting portraying a gay character was too convincing in some scenes in "Red White and Royal Blue. He was too convincing and was sex scenes were overwhelming. It makes you think that straight guys can play better than gay guys. Stick with the straight roles Nicholas..you're not what I thought you were.
There have been several straight actors who have played gay roles, so now that his agent has picked some challenging characters to play, he has to be gay. WOW!!! Even if he is, that's his business.
@@satireskeptic6787 let’s just start with the title of your stupid little commentary. “Went Gay” and using the phrase “queer Baiting “. He is a great actor and obviously directors and producers recognise his talent , nothing to do with his sexuality just his presence on the screen. Actors don’t have to be part of the LGBT community to play a part. That’s the whole meaning of acting. You are just an idiot.
❤I was conceived gay my parents wanted a a gay family member since nice a mm I guess some jst are gifted & talented 💓 ❤& Fame well W I started performing on stage when Waiiii was preggies @w ❤only date Real Makes for Real Love & Passions @w ❤ N❤ I think your famous cos your attractive ❤@w
I have honestly no idea what you are talking about, since you obvieusly are no actor, and never paid attention on clear pronouncation of what you wanted to say !
Galitizine is not a great actor, he is OK at most, and obviously without his looks he would be, ...how to put it mildly.... by far less known than he actually is. The fact that he immediately got a role at his first audition and afterwards struggled should ring a bell. Especially "Red, white and royal blue" is a rather mediocre movie (to say the least), which survives on looks, funny moments, and by depicting closeted gay characters in a comical but nonetheless slapstick-like, very straight way (there is practically nothing gay in the movie except the fact that both are men, and the level of acceptance they enjoy can only be found in fairy tales). So yes, nothing new, surprising or advanced there. Numerous unknown Thai, Korean, and Japanese BL movies and series feature actors with considerably better talents (and, do keep in mind) many of them are straight. If you want to see Hollywood-star straight actors (and I mean great actors) who did not play gay characters in order to become famous, but rather despite being famous, watch "Tom Hanks in "Philadelphia", Wesley Snipes, Patrick Swayze, and John Leguizamo in "To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar", Hugo Weaving and Guy Pearce in "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert", Hugh Grant and Rupert Graves in "Maurice", Cate Blanchett in "Carol and Tár", Jake Gyllenhaal in "Brokeback Mountain", Benedict Cumberbatch in "The power of dog", Colin Firth in "A single man", Ewan McGregor in "I Love You Phillip Morris", Stanley Tucci in "Devil wears Prada" and...oh well ... shall I continue?
@@didigogo139 The essence of the question already gives the answer. From the moment on that something "seems gay" while at the same time being politically correct at every other level, the approach is simply wrong (at least imho). If you watch the movies I mentioned you should get a pretty good idea.
@@georgesas7090rwrb holds true to the book in style and tone. So the actors did an amazing job translating the book into a live action version while holding the essence of the book. There are gay/bi/fluid people in the world that aren’t “stereotypical” but are still queer nonetheless. Yes RWRB was a typical rom-com but that’s kind of the point.
It doesn't bother me that a straight actor played a gay character because it is acting. But it is funny, I saw The Idea of Us and for a split second I thought...that is Henry and he should be with Alex. LOL I thought that because of the power of Red White and Royal Blue. I am happy that straight actors are comfortable with playing gay characters! And sadly yes, I think if an actor comes out gay, it limits his or her roles.
He's definitely attached himself to RWB
Do you mean “The Idea of You”?
I don't agree that his acting choices are as calculated as you posit, beyond simply choosing interesting characters to play. I don't imagine him thinking, "Hmmm, time to go gay again..." Telling more nuanced, honest, powerful, funny, exciting queer stories is what's important to me, whether the actor is queer or not.
It's more of a funny coincidence but you can't say that he didn't make a name for himself through queer cinema
@@satireskeptic6787 I get that. I'd solidly place Handsome Devil, RWRB, and Mary & George under "queer cinema." Those are definitely roles that grabbed attention. I became a fan of his after viewing RWRB, then went back to view everything else he'd done prior. I'm a fan now and look forward to seeing whatever he wants to take on. He's got Three Bags Full, The Masters of the Universe, and RWRB 2 coming up.
Ya hopefully RWRB 2 is good since I don't think there is a book to base it off
@@satireskeptic6787 True, but the book's author and the RWRB director are writing the new script together, so it should stay true to the characters.
With his extraordinary talent, he would've got to fame sooner or later. It just so happened that he got cast gay roles and got famous on this one gay role in Red White and Royal Blue which had a very well-written script based on a best-seller. Other actors have gotten gay roles too but they didn't necessarily get famous. Do you remember all the other male actors who played those male courtesans of King James in Mary & George? Do you remember who played Earl of Somerset, the first male courtesan that Nicholas Galitzine's role George bumped off? He got a lot of screen time too and he's not too bad in acting either. Exactly my point. Nicholas Galitzine got famous fair and square and no controversy.
Well it depends he became known because of playing gay royals (I.E Red White and Royal Blue) and he did many others. When the industry type casts you it is hard to break out of it especially if you lean into it like he does. Not saying its wrong just interesting.
@@satireskeptic6787 No he became known due to a very well-written romantic comedy with a heart-warming love story in which he just happened to play a gay character. Script is everything. He's played quite a few gay/bi roles before Red White and Royal Blue but he didn't become known? And he would've become known for playing a heterosexual character in the movie "The Idea of You" if that movie had come out first before Red White and Royal Blue judging by the success of the movie but it came out after Red White and Royal Blue so now we would never know. And it's the director of Mary & George who approached Nicholas for the role of George not the other way around so he's hardly "leaning into it". And I honestly feel he's actually trying to get away from gay roles to avoid being typecast with them. He does not play any gay roles in his two upcoming projects "Three Bags Full" (another movie with a great story which I am really looking forward to seeing) and Master of Universe. Let's see how well he fares.
@@dttra566 the success of the idea of you is directly tied to the Celebrity status of him and Anne Hathaway if he did that movie pre RWB and with someone less famous than Anne it would not have performed nearly as well
@@satireskeptic6787 Well like I said, now we would just never know because "The Idea of You" is another movie with very good script with a very heart-warming story. Like i said, script is everything!! If you look at every single famous actor, they all made it with movies with very good script with stories that captured audience's heart. Nicholas is no exception. I find he does better with heart-warming feel-good stories because he's just so handsome that the audience just wants to see him being happy.
He’s an amazing actor. Playing gay or straight he’s always excellent.
He's such a talented person. I love no matter what movie or part he is playing his facial expressions and eyes say everything before he can.
Tis True
IMO he played the gay roles perfectly especially in Mary & George because in one of the scenes I actually thought of gay porn. He plays his roles very much differently from others
Ya he definitely does a decent job portraying most of his characters
Yes very detailed and meticulous with dead-on accuracy.
Straight actors can play a gay character (Thank you Heath Ledger for Ennis Del Mar), the point is not here. At the begining, the "queer actor for queer role" was to adress :
- The poor quality of gay characters in the industry,
- The fact that openly queer actors could'nt get major roles, especially in Rom Com because they were not straight
To be honnest, i'm not confortable with this claim. It could be use by producers in the other side to only give major roles to straight actors, and it does not provide a solution for non openly LGBT actors.
Regarding Nicholas Galitzine case, he is a great storyteller, and i like his performances, regardless his sexual orientation
Could all be discussed in a non person specific video.
He's an EXCELLENT actor who plays all his roles with incredible insight and sensitivity. It's ridiculous to think that a straight actor can't play queer or vice versa. Actors ACT--they portray someone they're not. It's a moot point. By the way, I think the term, "queer baiting," is offensive. Haven't we really moved beyond the gay-straight dichotomy?
Some people still have not. Both sides are valid in their own ways.
@@satireskeptic6787 I don't agree. I think it's sexism. But that's the opinion I hold. It has been similar for Black, Hispanic, and Asian actors in the past--which was racist.
Let me see, Click-Baiting-Skeptic, Hmmmmm, What is the word I'm looking for............... Oh, I know, the word is, ACTING!
Well he became famous through queer roles it's not really click bait
@@satireskeptic6787 So what? "queer baiting" equals click-bate. Luke Evans, Jim Parsons, Sarah Paulson, and Neal Patrick Harris all got their start playing straight roles, were they straight baiting or were they working actors?
Well actually it was a question not a statement it's not "he's queer baiting" it's "is he queer baiting?" Also I'm not for or against this I was just exploring the topic.
@@satireskeptic6787 It doesn't say "Is he queer baiting?" it clearly says "Queer Baiting?" The point is, who cares, he's an actor doing his job, he's not a "queer tease" which is what you're implying with your exploratory question.
What does a question mark mean please define it.
He is an absolutely amazing actor, whatever he feels or identifies with, is only his business. Most likely he is a very decent person, that is the main thing.
Why are you attempting to smear Nicholas - what is that stupid thrill you get from attempting to belittle people who have made a success of their life while you sit and do nothing with your life. Lets not explore the life of Nicholas lets instead explore the life of that individual who would rather be known by a fake name (Satire Skeptic) than by his real name - what lies behind that very false/fake name?
@@rhh3582 name the smear I'll wait
I wanted to be a marriage and family therapist. There was several married women who told me that me as a single woman wouldn't make a bad marriage counselor. I had to put them in their place. I just said that the right counselor barely says anything during a session. They take therapy models and research to guide the clients. You don't need to be married to understand how a marriage works. Then just to be petty, i said that I learned from the mistakes of people like them to better help my clients.
I heard Nicholas is fascinated by Robbie Taylor Hunt
Interesting 🤔
@@satireskeptic6787 not sure what Robbie Taylor Hunt has to do with it Except that he has been the intimacy coordinator working with Nick in two films, red white and royal blue and Mary and George
@@judithmurray1376 wow
He is awesome. And who cares if he is not gay? OMG, it's called ACTING and he does a fantastic job. Sorry, bit I love romcoms, and rwrb is one of my favorites, it so darn cute and sweet. This video is so malicious, so sad.
@@rominafranza name one malicious thing about it that isn't true.
@@satireskeptic6787your whole attitude. It’s completely unnecessary.
I don't relish the idea of straight men playing gay roles. It ruins the image when they star in straight roles. That is my opinion. I can never watch a movie with Galitzine again. His acting portraying a gay character was too convincing in some scenes in "Red White and Royal Blue. He was too convincing and was sex scenes were overwhelming. It makes you think that straight guys can play better than gay guys. Stick with the straight roles Nicholas..you're not what I thought you were.
There have been several straight actors who have played gay roles, so now that his agent has picked some challenging characters to play, he has to be gay. WOW!!! Even if he is, that's his business.
For clarity I don't think he's gay cause I usually take people at their word on those things.
You’re not exactly correct …. Most actors struggle in the beginning …and then do better as doors open
@@michaelwhitmire9285 yes that is correct idk where I implied that wasn't true.
I think you are just jealous of an extremely handsome and majorly talented young man so you have to pull him down.
Where did I put him down.
@@satireskeptic6787 let’s just start with the title of your stupid little commentary. “Went Gay” and using the phrase “queer Baiting “. He is a great actor and obviously directors and producers recognise his talent , nothing to do with his sexuality just his presence on the screen. Actors don’t have to be part of the LGBT community to play a part. That’s the whole meaning of acting. You are just an idiot.
I'm sorry a title offends you.
❤I was conceived gay my parents wanted a a gay family member since nice a mm I guess some jst are gifted & talented 💓
❤& Fame well W I started performing on stage when Waiiii was preggies @w
❤only date Real Makes for Real Love & Passions @w
❤ N❤ I think your famous cos your attractive ❤@w
I have honestly no idea what you are talking about, since you obvieusly are no actor, and never paid attention on clear pronouncation of what you wanted to say !
Maybe you need to watch it again then to clarify.
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Galitizine is not a great actor, he is OK at most, and obviously without his looks he would be, ...how to put it mildly.... by far less known than he actually is. The fact that he immediately got a role at his first audition and afterwards struggled should ring a bell. Especially "Red, white and royal blue" is a rather mediocre movie (to say the least), which survives on looks, funny moments, and by depicting closeted gay characters in a comical but nonetheless slapstick-like, very straight way (there is practically nothing gay in the movie except the fact that both are men, and the level of acceptance they enjoy can only be found in fairy tales). So yes, nothing new, surprising or advanced there. Numerous unknown Thai, Korean, and Japanese BL movies and series feature actors with considerably better talents (and, do keep in mind) many of them are straight.
If you want to see Hollywood-star straight actors (and I mean great actors) who did not play gay characters in order to become famous, but rather despite being famous, watch "Tom Hanks in "Philadelphia", Wesley Snipes, Patrick Swayze, and John Leguizamo in "To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar", Hugo Weaving and Guy Pearce in "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert", Hugh Grant and Rupert Graves in "Maurice", Cate Blanchett in "Carol and Tár", Jake Gyllenhaal in "Brokeback Mountain", Benedict Cumberbatch in "The power of dog", Colin Firth in "A single man", Ewan McGregor in "I Love You Phillip Morris", Stanley Tucci in "Devil wears Prada" and...oh well ... shall I continue?
Tis the way
O baby you cry😂😹😂
So what would make Red White and Royal Blue seem more gay...?
@@didigogo139 The essence of the question already gives the answer. From the moment on that something "seems gay" while at the same time being politically correct at every other level, the approach is simply wrong (at least imho). If you watch the movies I mentioned you should get a pretty good idea.
@@georgesas7090rwrb holds true to the book in style and tone. So the actors did an amazing job translating the book into a live action version while holding the essence of the book. There are gay/bi/fluid people in the world that aren’t “stereotypical” but are still queer nonetheless. Yes RWRB was a typical rom-com but that’s kind of the point.
I don't like him at all.