Hey, Just wanted to stop by and say your videos are great even after 3 years! I learned a lot about my car driving it and watching your videos. Got inspired and did stage 1+ Intake+Catback from Cobb and after I went with your recommendation and did BrenTuning. What a difference!! On Intelligent mode have a 10 boost (awesome in busy traffic), Sport has 18.7 boost for daily driving and Sport sharp reached 21 boost. The power after 3400rpm is linear and love the feeling!! I can't thank you enough! 🙏🙂
Hey man that’s great to hear, what catback did u get? Does it throw check engine light? I’m looking to get an after market gesi downpipe that won’t throw lights at me.
I spoke to them yesterday and it seems like they are tuning with the MAPerformace intake now. They mention something like “their quality has gotten better” So hey! I cant wait to go stage 1+!
Great job on the video! I’ve had a real good experience with BrenTuning as well. He’s tuned a FA for me along with my current STI. Fortunately he’s within 30 minutes of driving so I went with a protune. The only other tuner I would ever trust is JRtuned. I also have been recently hearing good things about Corbin Johnson tuning.
I've been running a stage 1+ Cobb sf intake, catback and Brentuning etune with burble for over a month without any issues. Car pulls great, had their stage 1 since September also. Definitely worth it. Was running the Maperformance tune until my DAM dropped under 1. Haven't had that problem since switching to Bren.
@@mnloring7867 as long as you shift before 4K rpm you shouldnt hear that much backfire. It really only kicks in when you flutter your foot above the throttle at 4k rpms.
Thanks for posting this! I bought a MAPerformance tune a few weeks back and once I loaded it, my car barely ran. Just on easy driving the car had a massive hesitation at around 2,500 RPM, nearly stalled and then had a couple of feedback knock readings over 8 and was getting about 8 miles per gallon after 10 miles. They claimed that I uploaded the tune wrong although I followed their instructions to the letter. Warmed it up before loading the tune and then let it idle over a minute. They did offer to fix things and do an etune of sorts if I sent them some data logs, which was nice of them. But I honestly didn't want that tune back on the car with the knock readings it was spitting out. I just consider it $75 lost. I'll definitely have to check out Bren.
That’s frustrating man. I’m sorry to hear of your troubles. OTS can be hairy. Not ever car can react the same so it can get ugly quick. Bren analyzes and revises you’re data logs several times before sending your final map. I did about 4-5 revisions and they hit the nail on the head. It’s definitely pricier, but you get what you pay for. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@Autofreakgarage Yeah; at least it wasn't too expensive of an experiment (thankfully nothing broke). I've already been emailing with Bren and they seem like they are on top of things. I've been running the COBB stage 1 OTS 93 map without issue; so it was kind of a shock when the car seemed like it wanted to keel over with that map. My big concern was the massive knock events that were happening, I even ordered a 91 octane map for additional safety. Like you said, every car is different, your mileage may vary.
@@Autofreakgarage Hey man - Just following up, got the Bren tune on the car, it only took them two revisions to hit all of the targets and get clean logs. Really easy working with them and the car pulls strong with linear power delivery. The burble is kind of fun. I have the Remark muffler deletes and it certainly puts on a show. Thanks again for the post!
Hey have you notice any power Increases? Just got done talking to Bren they told me it’s 10/15 hp gain over Cobb? Plus have you notice any knocking? I’ve notice Cobb stage 1 plus show lots of knocking
I was between the MApreformance and Cobb stage 2 kits for my 2019 sti. Ive heard rumors that the map intake has boost creep issues and the fact that a reputable tuner like bren tuning refuses to tune with their intake basically makes my decision for me. Cobb here i come.
Quick question, did this tune change the way you go into second gear , because in my sti I have to add a little bit of gas just to get second gear smooth.?
I am here thinking I'm a shitty manual driver even though I've been driving stick for 8 years now. I have to double clutch 1st to 2nd everytime. Is it my car or me??
Yea not too sure I have the MAP sTage 2 with intake and down pipe, was also wanting to go with a Bren e tune. Guess I may have to ask and see what they say
Love this video! Is stage 1+ by Cobb just as reliable as stage 1 by Cobb? Like does the SF intake make the engine healthier? Also, any issues with the crackle pop tune with bren tuning? If I’m just running stage 1 with cat back? Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Just gives the car cooler air and more consistent numbers. No issues with the burble tune. But I don’t run it always. Running it full time can blow your turbo and cats out.
@@Autofreakgarage Sounds good, smooth power is nice. Eventually need to do a smoke test on the OEM TGV and turbo inlet. They start to slow leak around 15k miles and if you delete TGVs you need a protune.
Is Bren still tuning? I’ve tried reaching out and here’s the message I got “Thanks for the inquiry but we are not taking any new e-tuning jobs at this time.” Any recommendations on any other Tuners? I was thinking about DMann Tunning
I’m not sure what they do or don’t do at this point. I know after the whole EPA stuff went down, I started to see them tune less and less. Your best bet is to go with a protune to tune to your specific car, environment, and mods.
Great video! I wonder what made letting off the gas smoother in the tune? That is very interesting. Are all SI modes the same throttle, but different boost (how Cobb does it) OR is it like stock, where the SI modes only affect throttle.
Smoothing our the rpm band and making the throttle response more linear is what makes it so smooth. Yes works just like stock. Different boost levels in each setting. I drive in s# 99% of them time to have full boost at all times.
I’ve been contemplating going stage 2+(Cobb redline, ebc, injectors, fuel pump, fpr, Cobb dp) vs Bren’s stage 1+ redline. I know you are considering too, but do you think its worth 2x the cost to go stage 2+ over stage 1+? I was reading Bren’s 15+ sti tune thread and it only gave around up to 30hp & tq with stock fueling.
I’m only at bren stage 1+ so I can’t comment on stage 2+ experience. However, I’m not a number hunter. I wouldn’t be taking the next step in power to get more power. It would simply be to increase the longevity and reliability of the motor by allowing it to run smoother and breath cleaner. The extra power is just a byproduct for me.
@@Autofreakgarage ty for the reply. Just did my first 3 logs. Kinda scary doing my wot lol. I have a 2019 sti and they wanted me to do 4th gear. Agian much appreciated for the reply
so to confirm, your Stage 1 MAP was great and much better than Cobb and Stock, but their Stage 1 + is really when it gave you issues? Do you have any complaints about the Stage 1 MAP (Non +)?
Yeah it’s scary stuff. I shut it down and went home. Luckily, that is what it’s supposed to do to save the motor from actually deading itself. Haven’t experienced it since that once time.
@@Autofreakgarage had a wastegate put on by a shop for me, my intercooler was ziptied together cause the guy lost my bolts, and everything was looooooooose. I was mad lol.
@@jb6574 sti doesn't, the factory narrowband does not read WOT, once you hit 100% you end up needing a wideband for security somewhere along down the road.
@@jamesg8246 read the title... it says STi.... Edit: Scooby has an STi. VA chassis STis have nor any other previous model have gotten widebands, ONLY the VA chassis WRXs did.
Maybe about 1-2k or so on the stage 1+ before I started having issues. Nothing really to look out for as it never gave me any warning prior to the codes.
If your in MN go to JM Automotive. Skip MAP. And when you go stage one what ever that is, whatcha out for the urge to spend more money on the power your really looking for.
Awesome video. I just installed sf Cobb intake and now on stage 1+ with Cobb ots. Since Cobb ots is such a safe tune. Do you think it’s naturally more reliable vs. E tune from bren? Ultimately like most people, looking for long term reliability.
@@Autofreakgarage Have you had any prior experience with them? Just want to know why you went with Bren over the NJ place. Im in NY and looking into a protune around me
Oversteer/ I own an old wrx and the engine hates to be below 2000 rpm. The engine also has no power down low because of the 2L displacement so you kinda need to rev it high and get the turbo some what doing something
Lol and...? Is that supposed to be a negative critique? I shift my STI pretty high on the reg because the sound is intoxicating. Its not like it harms the car lol But, half if not more of the video he was shifting at/below 3k.
Hey, Just wanted to stop by and say your videos are great even after 3 years! I learned a lot about my car driving it and watching your videos. Got inspired and did stage 1+ Intake+Catback from Cobb and after I went with your recommendation and did BrenTuning. What a difference!! On Intelligent mode have a 10 boost (awesome in busy traffic), Sport has 18.7 boost for daily driving and Sport sharp reached 21 boost. The power after 3400rpm is linear and love the feeling!! I can't thank you enough! 🙏🙂
Hey man that’s great to hear, what catback did u get? Does it throw check engine light? I’m looking to get an after market gesi downpipe that won’t throw lights at me.
I spoke to them yesterday and it seems like they are tuning with the MAPerformace intake now.
They mention something like “their quality has gotten better”
So hey! I cant wait to go stage 1+!
Mid 2024 and these are still helping people, thank you
Great job on the video! I’ve had a real good experience with BrenTuning as well. He’s tuned a FA for me along with my current STI. Fortunately he’s within 30 minutes of driving so I went with a protune. The only other tuner I would ever trust is JRtuned. I also have been recently hearing good things about Corbin Johnson tuning.
I've been running a stage 1+ Cobb sf intake, catback and Brentuning etune with burble for over a month without any issues. Car pulls great, had their stage 1 since September also. Definitely worth it. Was running the Maperformance tune until my DAM dropped under 1. Haven't had that problem since switching to Bren.
Can you kinda of pick and choose when to make it burble or is it always backfiring? I want this tune but am a bit concerned about constant noise?
@@mnloring7867 as long as you shift before 4K rpm you shouldnt hear that much backfire. It really only kicks in when you flutter your foot above the throttle at 4k rpms.
Thanks man, keep making videos please, so hard to find good wrx sti content
i'm really likin that head unit screen quality. my miata screen is low res. prolly 720p
Thanks for posting this! I bought a MAPerformance tune a few weeks back and once I loaded it, my car barely ran. Just on easy driving the car had a massive hesitation at around 2,500 RPM, nearly stalled and then had a couple of feedback knock readings over 8 and was getting about 8 miles per gallon after 10 miles. They claimed that I uploaded the tune wrong although I followed their instructions to the letter. Warmed it up before loading the tune and then let it idle over a minute. They did offer to fix things and do an etune of sorts if I sent them some data logs, which was nice of them. But I honestly didn't want that tune back on the car with the knock readings it was spitting out. I just consider it $75 lost. I'll definitely have to check out Bren.
That’s frustrating man. I’m sorry to hear of your troubles. OTS can be hairy. Not ever car can react the same so it can get ugly quick. Bren analyzes and revises you’re data logs several times before sending your final map. I did about 4-5 revisions and they hit the nail on the head. It’s definitely pricier, but you get what you pay for. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@Autofreakgarage Yeah; at least it wasn't too expensive of an experiment (thankfully nothing broke). I've already been emailing with Bren and they seem like they are on top of things. I've been running the COBB stage 1 OTS 93 map without issue; so it was kind of a shock when the car seemed like it wanted to keel over with that map. My big concern was the massive knock events that were happening, I even ordered a 91 octane map for additional safety. Like you said, every car is different, your mileage may vary.
@@Autofreakgarage Hey man - Just following up, got the Bren tune on the car, it only took them two revisions to hit all of the targets and get clean logs. Really easy working with them and the car pulls strong with linear power delivery. The burble is kind of fun. I have the Remark muffler deletes and it certainly puts on a show. Thanks again for the post!
I'm running MAP Stage 1 now, and while i've liked it, I've always been curious about Bren's work because I hear nothing but good things about it.
It’s worth it
Hey have you notice any power Increases? Just got done talking to Bren they told me it’s 10/15 hp gain over Cobb? Plus have you notice any knocking? I’ve notice Cobb stage 1 plus show lots of knocking
Yes. It’s a nice jump in power over Cobb. Cobb is very conservative. I’ve never gotten higher than -1.4 on the knock. Which is completely normal.
I was between the MApreformance and Cobb stage 2 kits for my 2019 sti. Ive heard rumors that the map intake has boost creep issues and the fact that a reputable tuner like bren tuning refuses to tune with their intake basically makes my decision for me. Cobb here i come.
Quick question, did this tune change the way you go into second gear , because in my sti I have to add a little bit of gas just to get second gear smooth.?
It smoothed everything out in all gears and rpm band.
Subie EvoEyes bruhh right? I thought it was just me haha
I am here thinking I'm a shitty manual driver even though I've been driving stick for 8 years now. I have to double clutch 1st to 2nd everytime. Is it my car or me??
I just subscribed, you need more. Good video and keep them coming.
Very curious as to why they won’t e tune with a MAP intake?
I’m not sure. Resources not available? I think it would greatly benefit both their Company as well as their customers.
Yea not too sure I have the MAP sTage 2 with intake and down pipe, was also wanting to go with a Bren e tune. Guess I may have to ask and see what they say
Hit them up and see what they say. They are very helpful and know their stuff.
That I will do. Thanks for the video btw
Jerheggs did you ever get ahold of bren regarding tuning with both of those parts? I have both of those as well.
thank you for the info, answered a lot of questions i had!
Glad to have helped!
Love this video!
Is stage 1+ by Cobb just as reliable as stage 1 by Cobb? Like does the SF intake make the engine healthier?
Also, any issues with the crackle pop tune with bren tuning? If I’m just running stage 1 with cat back?
Thanks!!!!!!!!!
Just gives the car cooler air and more consistent numbers.
No issues with the burble tune. But I don’t run it always. Running it full time can blow your turbo and cats out.
what kind of radar detector is that? how you like it. i went from a v1 to uniden r7
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If you are in NJ there's no reason not to get a protune by JRtuned
Maybe someday, but I’m pretty content and pleased with the brentune
@@Autofreakgarage Sounds good, smooth power is nice. Eventually need to do a smoke test on the OEM TGV and turbo inlet. They start to slow leak around 15k miles and if you delete TGVs you need a protune.
North or South Jersey?
Was wondering if u can share ur performance mods on your next videos n also tell us how much hp/ whp u made so far?
I’ll be sure to put that on the list.
Is Bren still tuning? I’ve tried reaching out and here’s the message I got “Thanks for the inquiry but we are not taking any new e-tuning jobs at this time.” Any recommendations on any other Tuners? I was thinking about DMann Tunning
I’m not sure what they do or don’t do at this point. I know after the whole EPA stuff went down, I started to see them tune less and less. Your best bet is to go with a protune to tune to your specific car, environment, and mods.
@@Autofreakgarage thank you for your advice.
Great video! I wonder what made letting off the gas smoother in the tune? That is very interesting. Are all SI modes the same throttle, but different boost (how Cobb does it) OR is it like stock, where the SI modes only affect throttle.
Smoothing our the rpm band and making the throttle response more linear is what makes it so smooth.
Yes works just like stock. Different boost levels in each setting. I drive in s# 99% of them time to have full boost at all times.
@@Autofreakgarage ok so then you are referring to on throttle, more than off?
@@Autofreakgarage did you ever run stage 1 MAP (NOT +) VS COBB Stage 1 to comapre
No I was referring to off throttle.
Yes. I mention this in the beginning of the video. I ran cobb stage 1, map stage 1, map stage 1+, then bren stage 1+ in that order.
What head unit do you have and where did you buy it?
I’ve been contemplating going stage 2+(Cobb redline, ebc, injectors, fuel pump, fpr, Cobb dp) vs Bren’s stage 1+ redline. I know you are considering too, but do you think its worth 2x the cost to go stage 2+ over stage 1+? I was reading Bren’s 15+ sti tune thread and it only gave around up to 30hp & tq with stock fueling.
I’m only at bren stage 1+ so I can’t comment on stage 2+ experience. However, I’m not a number hunter. I wouldn’t be taking the next step in power to get more power. It would simply be to increase the longevity and reliability of the motor by allowing it to run smoother and breath cleaner. The extra power is just a byproduct for me.
Is that a stock display head unit? That screen is huge
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@@Autofreakgarage thanks
Just bought the brentuning. How long is the process.. Noob to the Subaru game
I had about 4-5 revisions. Took a couple days until I received the final tune.
@@Autofreakgarage ty for the reply. Just did my first 3 logs. Kinda scary doing my wot lol. I have a 2019 sti and they wanted me to do 4th gear. Agian much appreciated for the reply
so to confirm, your Stage 1 MAP was great and much better than Cobb and Stock, but their Stage 1 + is really when it gave you issues? Do you have any complaints about the Stage 1 MAP (Non +)?
Correct. No complaints with their stage 1 map.
@@Autofreakgarage Ok, good to know. Is their normal Stage 1 throttle as linear and as smooth as the Brentuning? Are you on 93?
I want a fan of the Cobb. Yes on 93.
also, how did the Cobb map initially feel before Bren cleaned it up?
I didn’t run the Cobb very long so I cannot comment. The only thing I noticed is the Cobb is very watered down to appeal to the masses.
You didn’t get their stage 1 package that includes the ebcs and tgv delete ?
That’s for the wrx
Also know what it's like to get shoved into limp mode WOT. It feels like you hit a god damn wall and it is scary as crapppp.
Yeah it’s scary stuff. I shut it down and went home. Luckily, that is what it’s supposed to do to save the motor from actually deading itself. Haven’t experienced it since that once time.
@@Autofreakgarage had a wastegate put on by a shop for me, my intercooler was ziptied together cause the guy lost my bolts, and everything was looooooooose. I was mad lol.
@@jkljkl218 yikes. I don't blame you. That is messed up. Time to find a new shop or diy!
@@Autofreakgarage I went back to DiY
Out of curiosity did you go with 93 or 91? Thinking of doing the tune as well I’m just running the Sf tune right now
We have 93 in nj so I am on the 93 tune.
Scoobyfreak86 cool, it didn’t take you the full 30 days did it ?
Did you have to get a fuel pressure regulator? I know alot of tuners recommend/ require one for tuning. And most require a wideband.
No sir
Most new cars have wideband sensors from the factory..even economy cars
@@jb6574 sti doesn't, the factory narrowband does not read WOT, once you hit 100% you end up needing a wideband for security somewhere along down the road.
@@jamesg8246 read the title... it says STi....
Edit: Scooby has an STi. VA chassis STis have nor any other previous model have gotten widebands, ONLY the VA chassis WRXs did.
how long do you have the MAP stage 1 plus before the problem ? i am running MAP stage 1 plus right now, what should i look out for ?
Maybe about 1-2k or so on the stage 1+ before I started having issues. Nothing really to look out for as it never gave me any warning prior to the codes.
@@Autofreakgarage sorry i am new to this but how do i know when i have the code ? will the access port tell me ?
Yes your car will go into limp mode and flash all the warning lights on the dash. Then read the code(s) through the accessport
@@Autofreakgarage I think it already happens to me once time, but I just check there was not active code right now , and thank for the reply
If your in MN go to JM Automotive. Skip MAP. And when you go stage one what ever that is, whatcha out for the urge to spend more money on the power your really looking for.
Been tuned by Mikey Botti for 2 years no issues whatsoever
Krzysztof Kunka I've been running Mikey Botti stage 1+ for a while and haven't had any problems. I would recommend.
Awesome video. I just installed sf Cobb intake and now on stage 1+ with Cobb ots. Since Cobb ots is such a safe tune. Do you think it’s naturally more reliable vs. E tune from bren? Ultimately like most people, looking for long term reliability.
Etune will always be safer than any ots. Ots is a blanket map that’s not specific to your car. Etune is custom to your specific car.
Scoobyfreak86 thank you! Keep up the content. You’ve helped me a lot!
Dude what radio is that
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Did you end up getting a wideband O2 sensor for brenntuning’s e tune?
Not for this stage, but I will when I go stage 2
Scoobyfreak86 thanks! Im considered getting the Brentuning Stage +1 e-tune as well but i wasnt sure if I could do it without the wideband sensor
Youre from NJ, ever get tunes at Prime by JR or precision?
I know of them, but I’m tuned by bren.
@@Autofreakgarage Have you had any prior experience with them? Just want to know why you went with Bren over the NJ place. Im in NY and looking into a protune around me
I went with an etune. Bren is extremely reputable and a brand that Cobb trusts.
your petrol is low! hahaa nice vid mate
Haha I was on my way to fill it up!
do you need boost solenoid before doing e tune?
If you are going over stage 1+, yes it is recommended. Along with a wideband.
What are expected gains for this set up?
Every car is different, but you’ll see ~30 gains in both hp and tq
@@Autofreakgarage thanks
What was the cost for the brentuning
Check their website for the latest pricing
Great comparison
👍🏻👍🏻
Your shifting pretty high for regular city driving...
3.8 is normal what are you talking about? You probably bog your engine down all the time
Dan Stumpf I shift at about 3k
Oversteer/ I own an old wrx and the engine hates to be below 2000 rpm. The engine also has no power down low because of the 2L displacement so you kinda need to rev it high and get the turbo some what doing something
CoopDoop that’s understandable but he’s driving around normal, not in need of torque
Lol and...? Is that supposed to be a negative critique? I shift my STI pretty high on the reg because the sound is intoxicating. Its not like it harms the car lol But, half if not more of the video he was shifting at/below 3k.
Ig?
In the description