Miller is way overvalued...would have been a fair swap...no chance on Laf, high draft picks, or Drury 1st round prospects...Rangers have money to burn, and more cap to clear to contenders at the deadline for higher bidders. I'll take a top 5 pick and a few UFA's thanks.
Miller and Zibanejad are roughly the same: in terms of production (0.81PPG vs 0.79PPG), salary $8mil/AAV vs $8.5mil/AAV (both with same remaining terms), both are the same age, both on the PP and PK.... Zibanejad has a bit more of a track record in the post-season, Miller with slightly better faceoff percentage, Mika is taller but JT is heavier. One huge advantage Zibanejad has, is that he's the coveted 1st line right shot centre. On paper, it's pretty much a fair trade.
I wouldnt trade miller for 2 zibanejabs. We dont need a dead player with no production left who gets paid more than miller. Think about it i dont want him for free for hoglander even. Wrong player bad contract hell no
@Scott-u9p7u that was an unconfirmed report from 1 janky Canadian news outlet, the same ones who have said Boesser was getting traded every year. Half the NHL insiders now days have close to zero inside information and just make up good sounding stories to try to stay relevant
You are clueless. Miller is a way better player. More points, more physical and a clutch player. Include a first and there would be something to talk about.
It is a 100% fair trade. Z for some reason is not a good fit with Drury. VANCOUVER LOST 2-1 yesterday. AGAIN! Miller has had his chances to show that he can pick up the slack. He cannot.
@@rodneybeggs8705 Let's not split hairs. So, I don't hope that EP40 will miss any more more games, but if it happens let's make a bet: 1. My bet is their winning percentage will be less than 0.5 without EP in the team (if he does not come back the next 2-4 games). 2. My bet is winning % will be > 0.5 after EP returns. Wanna bet? Your dignity is at stake. Since you are being a smart-a$$.
@@rodneybeggs8705 We are talking Miller and EP40 because I say so. I am right, a master coach, and you are a bush league beer fetcher. Let's come back to this thread in 2 or 4 games. Until then, bow to my greatness.
Good! That would have been an atrocious trade, miller has so much more value than a Zib. "The Canucks turned down the offer" I think more like "the Canucks laughed the rangers out of the building"
@Scott-u9p7u your clearly over evaluating a worse production player who is soft and gets paid more money. Even if rangers threw in a first id say hell no.
It’s gotta be Zibanejad + Schneider for JT Miller + Desharnais. Only way it works. They obviously won’t give up Lafreniere, he’s the future at forward of their organization. While most of their defense core are young and still have lots of time left. And if Miller blocks all trades to other teams then I guess the only player who’s trade able is Pettersson, which there doesn’t seem to be any teams willing to trade a star player for a star player and keep trying to give us scraps. I say we just ride it out and call this season an L. Maybe it will work out better next year.
That's where I'm at. I want nothing to do with K'Andre Miller either. Schneider has to be included or no deal. I would even accept Trocheck + Schneider + 1st or that young pf Cuylle ( 6'4, 22 and on pace for 20+ goals this year ). But Miller for Zib straight up.... No thanks..
The Canucks are the one with the issue and need to trade one guy or the other...unless they can deal with their locker room issues somehow. So NY made an offer, got turned down (supposedly), big deal, now they know what Vancouver expects. NY has time, cap space, prospects and picks. They'll make the right move at the right time.
Well this was earlier in the season. Lot has changed... the situation between EP & JT has gotten worse in the media and according to spittin chicklets (which I normally don't think too highly of unless it's player news) claims JT would only waive to NYR. So unless you're trading EP (which VAN should not do) the only place JT would waive allegedly is NYR. Miller has Van but the nuts unless EP is traded or they make up
Ya no way, if they want our player then they need to make it worth our while, we didn’t reach out to them. There needs to be a top 4 defence coming back, for anyone of our bottom pairing guys.
They are acting like, we are in a must sell now situation keep em both and, F them . I think that we need Miller more than we need Pettersson . Just move their dressing room lockers away from each other and for now, keep them on different lines
Zibanejad, Lafrenier, and 2 seconds for Miller maybe...but I'd rather Miller stayed in Vancouver, same with Petey.I know that is a ridiculous trade idea, but Zibanejad just isn't good enough.
Do NOT trade Miller unless Tocchet thinks it’s a good idea. This team needs heart as well as skill. JT has both… and Canucks will wilt if they start to collect dudes that Tocchet can’t get to play his way. He’ll walk, too….
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Miller is way overvalued...would have been a fair swap...no chance on Laf, high draft picks, or Drury 1st round prospects...Rangers have money to burn, and more cap to clear to contenders at the deadline for higher bidders. I'll take a top 5 pick and a few UFA's thanks.
This trade talk is gone too far personally, I think Peter and Miller will not get traded. Also Ziba? Him of all guys?
Miller and Zibanejad are roughly the same: in terms of production (0.81PPG vs 0.79PPG), salary $8mil/AAV vs $8.5mil/AAV (both with same remaining terms), both are the same age, both on the PP and PK.... Zibanejad has a bit more of a track record in the post-season, Miller with slightly better faceoff percentage, Mika is taller but JT is heavier.
One huge advantage Zibanejad has, is that he's the coveted 1st line right shot centre. On paper, it's pretty much a fair trade.
What a joke of an offer
I wouldnt trade miller for 2 zibanejabs. We dont need a dead player with no production left who gets paid more than miller. Think about it i dont want him for free for hoglander even. Wrong player bad contract hell no
zib isnt even half the leader or player of JTM
Good grief😂
@Scott-u9p7u
@Scott-u9p7u that was an unconfirmed report from 1 janky Canadian news outlet, the same ones who have said Boesser was getting traded every year. Half the NHL insiders now days have close to zero inside information and just make up good sounding stories to try to stay relevant
You are clueless. Miller is a way better player. More points, more physical and a clutch player. Include a first and there would be something to talk about.
@@michaella5799yeah thats true
It is a 100% fair trade. Z for some reason is not a good fit with Drury. VANCOUVER LOST 2-1 yesterday. AGAIN!
Miller has had his chances to show that he can pick up the slack.
He cannot.
I guess you missed his 4 point game 2 nights before ?
@@rodneybeggs8705 Let's not split hairs.
So, I don't hope that EP40 will miss any more more games, but if it happens let's make a bet:
1. My bet is their winning percentage will be less than 0.5 without EP in the team (if he does not come back the next 2-4 games).
2. My bet is winning % will be > 0.5 after EP returns.
Wanna bet? Your dignity is at stake. Since you are being a smart-a$$.
@@matsinilsson9578 we were talking about Miller not Petterson so I guess there’s nothing smart about you
@@rodneybeggs8705 We are talking Miller and EP40 because I say so. I am right, a master coach, and you are a bush league beer fetcher. Let's come back to this thread in 2 or 4 games. Until then, bow to my greatness.
Good! That would have been an atrocious trade, miller has so much more value than a Zib.
"The Canucks turned down the offer"
I think more like "the Canucks laughed the rangers out of the building"
@Scott-u9p7u your clearly over evaluating a worse production player who is soft and gets paid more money. Even if rangers threw in a first id say hell no.
@Scott-u9p7u your point is mute as zin has a full nmc too
Yeah, why trade Miller for a higher paid worse player? LMAO.
Dobson, Nelson and a #1 pick for Patterson, Desjardins. Come on islanders
It’s gotta be Zibanejad + Schneider for JT Miller + Desharnais. Only way it works. They obviously won’t give up Lafreniere, he’s the future at forward of their organization. While most of their defense core are young and still have lots of time left. And if Miller blocks all trades to other teams then I guess the only player who’s trade able is Pettersson, which there doesn’t seem to be any teams willing to trade a star player for a star player and keep trying to give us scraps. I say we just ride it out and call this season an L. Maybe it will work out better next year.
That's where I'm at. I want nothing to do with K'Andre Miller either. Schneider has to be included or no deal.
I would even accept Trocheck + Schneider + 1st or that young pf Cuylle ( 6'4, 22 and on pace for 20+ goals this year ).
But Miller for Zib straight up.... No thanks..
If I'm Vancouver it's starts with Laffy and I want more. Zib is a non starter
@@zachhaist6426 rangers won't trade him
Maybe if they added Kreider and a first............maybe.
Not even then, Kreider is washed
@Scott-u9p7u Zibanejad and Krieder are both trash
A first? No fn way adding a first for a player on the downswing of his career is never a good idea
They probably offered such a poor trade because they've seen Canucks accept terrible trades in the past
The Canucks are the one with the issue and need to trade one guy or the other...unless they can deal with their locker room issues somehow. So NY made an offer, got turned down (supposedly), big deal, now they know what Vancouver expects. NY has time, cap space, prospects and picks. They'll make the right move at the right time.
Well this was earlier in the season. Lot has changed... the situation between EP & JT has gotten worse in the media and according to spittin chicklets (which I normally don't think too highly of unless it's player news) claims JT would only waive to NYR. So unless you're trading EP (which VAN should not do) the only place JT would waive allegedly is NYR. Miller has Van but the nuts unless EP is traded or they make up
This has been in the news for 2 weeks.
Why would Vancouver give up one of their best players for a scrub like Zibanejad? Try tossing in some depth and a 1st rounder...then just maybe
Ya no way, if they want our player then they need to make it worth our while, we didn’t reach out to them. There needs to be a top 4 defence coming back, for anyone of our bottom pairing guys.
Pertterson and Zibanejad might be a good working combo
what got was last night against the Habs. Miller had no emotion when lekkerimaki got a goal or any of them. guy isnt a team player. He is a downer
They are acting like, we are in a must sell now situation keep em both and, F them . I think that we need Miller more than we need Pettersson . Just move their dressing room lockers away from each other and for now, keep them on different lines
There are no single pieces on the Rangers roster that would replace Miller. It would have to be a bundle.
Well... Panarin is a far better player but that would never happen.
@@tcmanchanhe’s not far better dude….
@@srange1342 delusional
@@srange1342yes, he is. Panarin reached 500 points in 384 games with the Rangers. The stats are not even remotely comparable.
@@tcmanchan as much as I hate the rangers panarin is on another level. Millers good but he’s not the bread man
Zibanejad for a bag of pucks and some gatorade then we can talk
throw in a bag of peanuts
Miller to the Rangers for this year’s first round pick plus future considerations,…
No wonder chris drury is hated by his own players. He lives in lala land offering a salary dump player for a primed 10p points player
this isn't confirmed
That's because the offer from the Rangers is horrible and not even close.
No thanks!
Best trade I heard was Peterson for Svechnikov. Imagine a Sven/Miller/Sherwood line.
if it's D Pettersson, then yes
slavin and svech for petey vinny
OMG the delusion is beyond belief!!
"Earned" is laughable
Played well in his contract year and a ghost ever since. Get this guy TF out of NY
Like 80% of players. They need to get rid of the 8 year contracts.
What a joke, Rangers are desperate. Zibenechad below Millers talent. Ziba has a big ego also.
Pretty bad trade lol. Shocking Vancouver didn’t take it hahaha
What was the trade. Miller for zib , a first round pick and his first child.
Sounds like the trade market is getting biblical now lol. First born and a fallen sar in the deal@@JackConrad-e4v
Zibanejad, Lafrenier, and 2 seconds for Miller maybe...but I'd rather Miller stayed in Vancouver, same with Petey.I know that is a ridiculous trade idea, but Zibanejad just isn't good enough.
No one wants to play for the Canucks too much Shame wearing the jersey lately
Nobody wants zabs
thats disrespectful asf dury is a joke
100,000% fair trade. Miller is overrated by people like you.
Worsed trade Rangers
To slow no thanks
who cares i tnever happened
Anybody that think it is a joke offer should compare their stats.
Miller was away for a month plus stats are only one part of the equation. 🤷
Do NOT trade Miller unless Tocchet thinks it’s a good idea. This team needs heart as well as skill. JT has both… and Canucks will wilt if they start to collect dudes that Tocchet can’t get to play his way. He’ll walk, too….
no.
@ Yes.
@@PollyTheWog-ff8rt No. Bow down.
The rangers are desperate to get rid of zibanebad mayhbe the hawks will take him because he will be a downgrade for anyone
@@lannysstache dude thats a bad contract they will have to give up mad assets and retain salary to even dump him.