Better Direct Sounds: UA OX, Two Notes Torpedo Studio & New Headphones - That Pedal Show
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
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This is NOT Ox vs Torpedo Studio. We don't know either device well enough to do that. Nope - it's a follow up to a show we made earlier this year when we were ‘forced’ to play silently. We didn’t really like it. • No Speakers! Can We Go...
This show is the follow up, having a acquired some other stuff and done some things to improve the experience. Good news: Dan is much happier!
What about all the stuff you can’t see during this video: what is Mick doing?
Yes, we should have had a camera on the iPad and Mac. Here are the things we’re talking about…
• Universal Apollo 8P (the interface we use all the time): www.uaudio.com/audio-interfac...
• Universal Audio Ocean Way Studios reverb: www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/re...
•Need a primer on Universal Audio Ox? Watch our first video here: • That Pedal Show - Adve...
There’s a follow-up podcast required, but for now…
Pedals…
Dan’s Board
• Sonic Research ST-300 Mini Tuner
Australia: bit.ly/2mR1s8c
• Analog Man Sun Face NKT Red Dot
www.buyanalogman.com/Analog_Ma...
• Analog Man Bad Bob Boost
www.buyanalogman.com/category...
Analog King Of Tone
www.analogman.com/kingtone.htm
• Keeley D&M Drive
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2oTblU1
USA: bit.ly/3dNlNr2
Australia: bit.ly/2pUDUAE
• Vintage MXR Phase 45
No longer made
• Fredric Effects Dresden Synth Fuzz
www.fredric.co.uk/dresden-synt...
• Analog Man ARDX20 Delay
www.buyanalogman.com/category...
• Strymon TimeLine
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2fzulGD
Australia: bit.ly/2pSEFKm
• Chase Bliss Audio Gravitas Analog Tremolo
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2JOlizN
USA: bit.ly/3dR0TY6
Australia: bit.ly/2po5iru
• Walrus Audio Fathom Reverb
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2Jxexiz
USA: bit.ly/3IGZ0vc
Australia: bit.ly/2JsVFRM
• TheGigRig G2
www.thegigrig.com/g2
Mick’s Board
• Boss TU-3S Tuner
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2nUhodT
USA: bit.ly/3rcyZO7
Australia: bit.ly/2Li9A0Y
• Analog Man Sun Face BC183 Fuzz
www.buyanalogman.com/Analog_Ma...
• Fulltone Octafuzz
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2eG68c3
USA: imp.i114863.net/g0RBB
• Analog Man / Maxon SD-9 Super Distortion
www.buyanalogman.com/Maxon_SD...
• ProAnalog Devices Manticore
www.proanalogdevices.com
• Analog Man ARDX 20 Dual Analog Delay & Amazeo
www.buyanalogman.com/category...
• Free The Tone Tri-Avatar Multi-Dimensional Chorus
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2eKxYoF
www.freethetone.com
• Bigfoot FX Magnavibe
www.bigfootfx.com
• Supro Tremolo
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2pZrAkZ
USA: imp.i114863.net/zMzGM
• Neo Instruments Mini Vent II
www.neo-instruments.de/en
USA: imp.i114863.net/EB014
• TheGigRig G2
www.thegigrig.com/g2
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro jamming: 00:00
- What are we doing? 3:49
- We upset a lot of people with the last video: 5:20
- Dan’s rig and the Ox; Mick’s rig and the Two Notes Torpedo studio: 6:18
- Getting the Marshall dialled: 12:10
- There’s more to the sound of a loud Marshall than the sound of a large Marshall: 17:40
- Marshall and the Ox Box - real world in the room volume: 19:10
- And the headphones appear: 23:20 (listening starts at 30:28)
- What does Dan think of the OX/headphones/Marshall? 39:20
- Back to the Marshall. Again. 43:15
- 8/10. Really? 49:00
- Two Notes Torpedo Studio 51:18:
- Beginnings of concluding thoughts 1:03:00
- Dan tries Mick’s headphones: 1:05:00
- More conclusions: 1:08:09
- What about latency? 1:11:00
Guitars in this episode:
- Gibson Memphis 1958 ES-335 - www.gibson.com/Products/Electr...
- Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
Amps / direct boxes in this episode
• Marshall 1987x head and 1960AX cabinet with Celestion G12M Greenback speakers
- Victory V30 The Countess MkII and V212VH cabinet with 1 Celestion Vintage 30 and 1 Celestion G12H Anniversary speakers
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• Universal Audio OX
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USA: bit.ly/3DEEjwc
• Two Notes Torpedo Studio - No longer made
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Can i just say that this channel along with the Andertons channel has really brought back a spark for me in guitar playing. I am a professional player and teacher but for a while, I lost that passion for playing for pure enjoyment. This channel has helped so much to bring back my passion for tone and playing. I have also learnt SO much from you guys. It has been so helpful and I really appreciate it. You have helped me in my search for my own sound and what I like... as well as how to set things up and power things correctly etc...
I always look forward to your next video : ). Thanks so much.
Thank you James - we’re super chuffed that we help inspire you. Thank you for the kind words!
The more I watch demo videos on RUclips, the more I am impressed with the audio quality you guys have in your videos between discussion and playing. Brighter lighting at the new space is a good fit.
Excellent tip on the Ocean Way Studios plugin. I often take an Apollo Twin on vacation so I can use the amp sims, and having the OWS on an AUX bus really improves that experience.
Love hearing you both play together! Please more content of you both playing. Sounding great!
Mick and his COMICALLY large water bottle. Gets bigger every filming day
Hydration is key
Either that or he's shrinking...
oansun That's not water....
nobodyhere C Major, I believe.
You guys did a great job with this! Thanks for confirming that buying the OX for quiet recording was a good idea and the info on the Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro's.
Thanks guys for bring out you latest pedal boards, much appreciated. I hope you can find time to give us a run-through of you boards and how you use them in a gig/rehearsal context when controlled by the G2. I have seen Dan's latest "GigRig" vid talking through the features and benefits of the G2, but I'd love to see how to use the G2 in a practical and musical context. Loved your intro today guys, i hope you bring this in regularly. It's great to hear you doing what you love, with the gear you currently enjoy. Love you new studio, sounding fantastic. cheers
Love the show, really amazing. You both are doing so much for everyone. Before I started watching these shows I never had a pedalboard, I just had one multi effects pedal and thought that’s it, and all I need. But since watching your shows I’ve got inspired and now got a pedalboard with various types of pedals. Thanks to that pedal show. 🎸
Ah, that’s great Mark, thanks so much :)
THANK YOU MICK! 50:38 - "People are gonna wanna know, should I buy this or this". This is the entire reason I'm here (I like the other vids you guys do too, obv.) But I'm glad you convinced Dan.
As always boys- excellent vid!
Very poignant video for me, just received my OX on Wednesday! So far, I’m loving it, because it IS DOESN’T GIVE ME OPTION PARALYSIS!
It does what I want for recording, attenuates my amp nicely for practice at home.... BOOM AND DONE!
Cheers!
"Dan and I aren't big fans of reality."
I reject your reality, and substitute my own!
Reality is a distortion of perception brought about by a lack of intoxicants ...
I appreciate the respect you have developed for quiet/attenuated playing. I recently compared digital amp emulations to a live tube amp with a loadbox and speaker emulators and discovered there is still no substitute for real tubes in terms of headroom, responsiveness and sustain.
2 things.
1) That Pete Thorn video is still one of my favorite guitar things. Dan's primal scream is hilarious.
2) I love that in this, Dan responds to the attenuated Marshall sounds with an attenuated, sotto voce "get in".
Schwangri La needs a t-shirt!
It’s getting one. And it’s a corker!
The more t-shirts the better!!! 😝
I'll buy that for a dolllar!
Better yet, a flanger pedal.
I’m glad this has come up now. I’ve recently gone to putting my pedalboard into a clean Suhr Corso with the line out running to a BluBox and then to my interface. I can’t remember when I last used used my speaker cab now.
Only problem is now I’m starting to go down a rabbit hole of monitors and as this has highlighted, headphones!
Good Lord!!! I’m less than 3 minutes in and you’re both sounding AWESOME!!!!
Great work guys! Vast improvement on the previous direct video
Your mic + room sounds are so lifelike! It really sounds like amps in a room! The sims are killer too!
Coffee and jams from mick and dan. Best way to start a friday morning here in America!
amen brother
"Schwang-ri-la"
That's it! That's the name of That New Pedal Shed!
You guys are awesome! I've said it before but I have you and Rabea and Chappers to thank for my return to the guitar after a few years of disinterest.
Perhaps: Twangrila.
The Ox is killer. I use it live all the time in combination with a mic’d cab and have my own panned stereo thing going on. Also, the ability to change the rig over to a tweed or champ for a totally new tone is really cool. Also, when front of house says “too loud” its a really easy fix without a total EQ change. Not to mention the 1176 compression is pretty great on the Ox. Once I set my “rigs” on the Ox I haven’t been in the software on the ipad in months.
Mick, the Positive Grid Bias Mini is crazy good, tons of fun, iPad tweakable beyond your wildest dreams, front-end pedal compatible, effects loop, and simple touch and go. Love it! Totally addictive!
That opening Jam was delicious and I thoroughly enjoyed every moment of it thank you :) Also tremendously impressed with the UAD Ox
A minute and a half into the video, and I prefer the live amps and room mics. Great show as always guys!
What timing I've just ordered (last night) a Two Notes Torpedo Captor. Been wanting to pull the trigger for weeks. Can't wait to try it now. Arrives Tuesday. Hopefully her indoors will be outdoors when it arrives. Otherwise I'll cop it.
You guys have a lot to answer for.
Another entertaining and informative video.
Cheers
Loved that OX. I have to play speaker-less and this was an ear opener. Thanks again, lads.
Oh man, Nuraphones. I had to order a pair after this video! I really hope to finally be able to enjoy playing guitar through headphones. Thanks guys.
Great to see that gap bridged between ideal world and rest of the world sound capturing/immersing.
Lot's of interesting alternatives to explore.
Schwangri-la! ! No doubt! ! I can only dream of having the talent, passion, and time that encompasses what you guys and your team do on any given day. Schwangri-la indeed good sirs, Schwangri-la indeed.
i think there is more detail in your description box alone then there is most other peoples videos. love it.
What an opening jam! Such a groove
Really interesting guys! I use a torpedo CAB pedal which is a little more user-friendly than the torpedo studio. It can be used in conjunction with a real cab, and sound guys love the isolated ‘mic’d up’ guitar signal! It’s even better when loaded with celestion impulse responses (best on the market in my opinion).
A lot of thought & care went into this & it's appreciated. All the more-so 'cos it's not your first choice way of doing things, but you've understood our issues. I want quality sounds, but I don't want to keep my shift working neighbour awake. It's important that he's well rested 'cos he's a fireman.....& my house is on his beat!!
With the headphones on, it was like getting a preview of That Pedal Show in in 25 years when Mick and Dan are hard of hearing :)
Glad you did this video! I'm definitely someone who mostly has to stick to headphones especially since the amp that I have needs to be way too loud to sound really good.
This is sounding stellar! Get it Dan🤟👍✌️
Thank you for diving down this rabbit hole.
Hi, Mark here :-)
Great video guys, its a shame you couldn't get to know the Two Notes a bit more before and use the remote for the computer as you can do a lot more than what you guys did (which you did say)
I have the Two Notes Torpedo Live and it is a great bit of kit for home use to crank your amp.
Keep these awesome show coming!
Use it as well, its an awesome piece of kit. Yes like everything else you have to spend a little time with it, not every cab suits every amp .But there is plenty to choose from and moving the mic around and using different mics really helps dial it in. I always A/B with my live cabs to make sure its as close as possible. They defiantly needed to spend more time with the 2 notes and use the free app when you get the 2 notes.
Thank you guys! It’s wonderful to see you having fun again after the turmoil of the work on Schwangri-La. Some thoughts:
1) Mick, you will probably say it’s not your ambition, but you would be a very good band producer: asking the right questions in the right way and keeping the focus, and of course your phenomenal knowledge.
2) The Bad Bob is - again - convincing.
3) There are basically 3 guitar uses: band situation, practice at home, studio time (RUclips guitar playing is not really a seperate category as it sort of combines these). I want to point out to other viewers that in all three of these situations, owning these devices is not necessary to achieve what you want to. If you want to play or record at home, there are other options that will presumably match your expectations. Also, be aware of the fact that any software-related product will - at one point - ask you money for updates. This being said, hats off to you guys for this marvellous in-depth video and to the makers of these wonderful devices for their innovative achievements.
I like you Tom - Mick here. Thank you for the kind words. As it goes, I am doing a little production at the moment for a couple of our friends and - gadzooks - us! Totally agree with the three uses thing. I was talking to Dan about a show on headspace. Have no idea how we do it. It came up because I was reflecting on how we feel when we’re making these videos. Loose, easy, fun, nothing heavy. When I play live or record proper music
- not sure about Dan - everything changes. Music is really serious for me. As pretentious as it sounds, it’s deep; it’s art. It’s expression and release. Wonder if there is a show in that. Or if I’ll just come off like a mentalist. :0)
Fantastic all the way !!
37:49 Dan plus reverb = waking up to a misty morning at an outdoor concert circa 1969. Knowing yesterday was great, but today is going to be glorious. My man.....
Hahahah!! Love it!!
Gonna help so much when I'm cooped up in a small room in Scotland for a few months!
Great show! Very informative, I've been looking into a headphone solution for a hot minute. Love the new space! Would love to see another episode in the future using a Kemper.
With my Hi-Tone (Hiwatt repro) 50 watter I can attenuate either via the amp’s own VVR circuit (reduces voltage in the power stage) or a PowerStation. The VVR turns the amp tonally into a blackface Fender Deluxe with a Mid knob. Gotta keep the master vol down, though, to avoid overcompressing the amp and roasting the VVR components to boot. The PowerStation OTOH keeps the Hiwatt character intact but this means the power tubes wear out a lot faster. Hiwatts sound glorious with the channel & master vols both at ~3 o’clock! The PowerStation’s tone knobs & Bright/Warm switches are a huge plus in getting a great sound at a small-room friendly volume.
great intro jam guys!! loved it!
Nice episode - great tones and very clear explanations! Would be cool to have a camera showing the Marshall settings as you were tweaking them, or just a verbal indication - sometimes I like to match the settings on mine to see if I can cop similar tones.
I am struck by the situation we all find ourselves in today in music technology, using devices in a signal chain designed and introduced across 80 decades (1950 - 2018). The human spirit continues to reach for new things.. innovate ... advance and improve, hungry for more and more.... and yet at the same time we hold tightly to what we have loved and cherished, that which has found its way deeply into our hearts, souls and the fiber of our bones. Something new to capture something that we knew. We are odd and silly creatures ... and I love it! Great episode dudes, can't wait till next week.
Literally just got an ox box and some beyerdynamics earlier this week!
I completely agree with the conversation at 41:21 - It took me 10mins to find a great sound with my blues jnr - but instead of using a 1x12 I use the 4x10 sim with a random combo of on and off axis mics, as it sounds the closest to me listening to the amp in the room (and importantly retains the character of the amp). It'll never feel like the boominess of the walls and air moving in the room but it is great for guilt free silent playing and is better recording option for me, with no sound engineering skills, faffing around with an SM57 +/- a condenser (and then having trouble replicating the results). My early criticism is that it breaks up too easily/artificially with dynamic playing - I haven't yet found a setting that stays as clean as the amp by itself. It would also be nice to be able to change the type of room in the app (like you can in the Ocean Ways plugin).
There is a now a dangerous rabbit hole where I want to buy an AC30 etc... amps I'd never dream of using at home.
PS. Coincidentally one of my friends is the design engineer at Nura (honk) - he was excited to know word is spreading afar! Thanks for plugging an Australian company!
Well done! Really good revisit. The headphones and the reverb (no matter how you achieved it) made a huge difference, which is what many commenters said last time. But the reverb really needs to go onto the headphones for your monitoring only. If you put the extra reverb into the mix and listeners are using speakers in a room, they get yet another layer of reverb from the room they are listening in. In my case, I always listen to youtube through headphones and always have some reverb dialled in to give it some "space". When you put the reverb on the Ox or the Two Notes, it was overkill until I dialled out the reverb on my own headphones. You really don't want the "compensation reverb" to go into the mix.
TPS Broadcasting to you from Schwangri-La! Sounds like the name of your new place. As always enjoyed the show!
Great jam, appreciate the humbucker love!
Thanks guys for demoing and trialing this digital gear today." Giving it a good crack in Schwang-ri-la"
Dan, your playing went to another level when you started playing with your " music listening" cans..you had fun. Well worth looking into for practising and having fun, but not for recording. " Careful with those cans Eugene", you'll hurt yourself. You need reference headphones for recording, and I don't think you would enjoy those as much as your new cans. I'm sure you guys will work this digital domain out eventually, as the gear is getting better. Great summary and running the gear Mick. I learn't that I'd like the OX and your groovy cans, as i could have fun at any time of day/night.
thanks guys, cheers
This was awesome and super informative!
I have a suggestion for a follow-up video, and that's to do a setup for those of us who can't or don't want to have an amp on stage and want to plug directly into the mixer. I'm thinking specifically about using preamp or amp sim pedals with cab sims and plugging them into a PA speaker and comparing that to using an amp. I'm curious how those two experiences compare for y'all, because y'all know amps super well and I don't. I'm also curious about whether or not there's a difference between analog and digital cab sims in this kind of application.
Thanks guys, good one.
you had me in the first 10 seconds. What an awesome opening jam. :))
I recently picked up some shure srh1540 closed back phones, only due to a deep discount, and they’re pretty remarkable. Admittedly I don’t play guitar with phones typically, but for tracking and mastering they certainly make a tremendous difference
The "Yeah come on!" at 34:12 made me happy that the guys gave direct another shot.
Dan in cans, smiling. Who would have thunk it :-)
Great episode gents!
You have the option of using two mics on one cabinet on the two note. By default it’s one mic left and another right (stereo). Choose to use for an example physical output Right and set the two notes to “dry/dual mic in the output menu. Then you can blend the volume on each mic. I think that the volume blend/mic placement should be done from the computer app though.
What could be interesting is to record a amp and cabinet with one or two mics and at the same time make an IR of that exact same setup and then compare the two sounds.
Regards
Mikkel
Proper gear festival boys. Well played.
Interesting about the headphones. Since I ripped all my CD's to FLAC format I've been hearing all kinds of new stuff in music.
Dans face at 34:44 said it all. Big improvement in vibe.
That intro jam is on ANOTHER LEVEL GENTS!
Cheers Zac ;)
The Ox with the Marshall sounds amazing!!
Your best intro ever !!! Thanks
I'm Very happy that you guys did this video because this is my guitar experience with guitar usually. I spend most of my time playing through the computer and recording. I like in the burbs in Australia and I am often working late into the night and have to work in silence. It was good to see your experience with this technology.
Mick is right , you can't get the real feedback experience without the speaker but it does need to be a guitar speaker as studio monitors react in a different way and can be damaged if you are using them incorrectly.
You didn't use the Two Notes Software, it comes with a package similar to the UA so I don't think it was a fair comparison.
I would love to see how you go with Virtual amps some time
While I use alot of digital stuff in my recordings I do find that there has to be something real in the chain for it to sound real weather it a pedal, A real Amp there has to be something. I and usually recording with pedals before the interface unless I am going into the Real Amps.
I cannot however remember the last time I mic'd a cabinet. I am using IR's all the time now
I would love to see more videos like this
Doug
Speaking of Pete, he'd be a great resource to have on the show for a show-and-tell for how he does low-volume stuff and has it sound amazing (tracking with a real amp into a load box + cab IRs, etc).
Also, if you haven't listened to Pete Thorn II yet, do it now -- it's amazing. (=
You two are rapidly making 'The Doug & Pat Show" seem 21st-century... :))))))
Very interesting to get your perspective on this. What's interesting to me as someone who's recently recorded with a progressive metal band is that Dan's obsession with having the guitar in the room with the amp is an absolute anathema to the standard practice for recording in heavier genres. From Metallica to Pantera to more modern artists in the Djent sphere (at least, ones who aren't using Kempers or plugins), as well as our producer's set up at Brighton Electric (where Rabea recorded his album with Toska), the setup is pretty similar. The musician is in the control room and their signal is routed to the amp in the studio, either mic'd with the room or covered in moving blankets in an acoustically dead vocal booth. For our record we even did this with the bass, eschewing the usual DI for a vintage SVT and a 70s Fender Bassman into an 8x10, but again it was mic'd in the studio and I was in the control room to play. Have you guys never had any experience with this kind of setup and, in either case, why do you think so many producers record this way if having the instrument, player and amp in the same room makes such a difference in your opinion?
For sure, when you’re talking about tracking a record there are plenty of reasons for not being in the same room as your amp - not least ear fatigue! These videos are about just normal playing and trying to enjoy it, not necessarily pro recording. However... Couple of things from my point of view - Mick here. For the kind of music I play, the interaction between guitar, amp and human is absolutely essential, so that’s why I like to be in the room. But I’ve been to my fair share of metal tracking sessions and that’s a whole different thing not least because the guitars end up being //vastly// more produced than in other genres, to the point where they often don’t sound much like what’s coming out of the speakers at all. Hence the prevalence of digital solutions in that world, in my opinion. Going back a click or two, again, you’d have to be slightly mad to stand in the room with a cranked Plexi while tracking! So I’m sure it’s a mix of practical and stylistic reasons in those genres. But for me, I want to feel my amp. I want to feel the band for that matter! Though I appreciate that progressive music is rarely recorded like that. Tracking tracking tracking. And to me anyway, boy does it sound like it!
Also. Will just add this... it was also common practise to track segments of chords separately so that the intonation and gain levels could be tweaked between pairs of strings - I’m not kidding! That’s how much some of that particular kind of metal was basically constructed and fixed. And, get ready to be potentially offended but please understand I’m not directing this at you. A lot of those guys frankly weren’t together (or good) enough to play the parts that ended up on the records. So they had to be laboriously tracked in that way. Nobody wanted to stay in the room with that. If I was a producer, I’d want the guy in the control room so I could urge him to play it right.
Now. That happens in every genre and I’ve done more than my fair share of hopelessly bad comped takes. Feed a few producers with a drink or three and ask them about rubbish guitar players. You’ll be there for weeks! :0) That’s why they want you in the control room - they want to finish the record and get paid before they die of old age and or scrapped takes. ;0)
Great jam at the beginning blokes!
Tell the truth, Mick. You twisted a knob and dribbled a little. It happens to us all! ;)
If I had a nickel for every spot of wee that hit my jeans during a session...
Great show as always, guys!
I have the ox and I’m not going back to being without one. The only situation I don’t necessarily need it is during band practise (even then it might be nice to have a multitude of different cab sounds but that is just because I could do it, not a necessity). With a budding tinnitus I want to be very aware of avoiding loud sounds whenever possible without sacrificing sound quality - and ox allows that in style and convenience :)
I use two notes with custom IR's and I think you need some kind of reverb to have it sound more natural. The IR's are truncated down to 18ms I believe, this means you can't get reverb from room mic IR's, they will only make a tonal difference. It would have been really nice to be able to use longer IR's for natural room reverb, OwnHammer sells IR's up to 500ms. On the other hand you may want you amp recorded without any room and put a reverb after.
Yeah the Two notes will allow for multiple mics, multiple positions within a room however you need a pc/laptop hooked up to it.
It is ALL about musical inspiration not tech frustration! I'm with Mick on that point!
33:52 I heard that “yes, yes, yes...” in another video - but somehow I can’t recall which one exactly. It was probably not on RUclips then ;)
Great vid guys
I love my torpedo, it's changed how I play live and at home, no more useless sound guys with bad mics or waking the baby at night
That said here are my tips
Using third party IRS like ownhammer or celestion is key, especially if you use the quick starts folder as it makes the two notes virtually plug and play with awesome sounds in 5 seconds. All I wanted was my amp to sound like it does with the cab I own and using the 3rd party IRS I feel I got a good match
I use kz zst in ears, they sound really good live and noodling at home, really accurate, natural and balanced and they're only $20!!
I found the load part of the torpedo can put strain on smaller amps and reduce headroom, I get the best results and dynamics bypassing the load on my Princeton combo, but that only works for live and not at home
That said I try not to run my amps louder into the torpedo than I would live as I have red plated my marshall running it close to full
The ox looks and sounds so good! But it's lack of 3rd party IRS means my collection will go to waste
Would love to see you guys experiment with the Built-in cab filter on the Big Sky! It’s saved me on more than one gig when no decent amps were available.
Excited for this one, always been interested in your opinions on this sort of thing.
P.S. I saw Julian Lage this week and he is, first and foremost, an astonishingly good guitarist - but also gets an unbelievable tone from a '54 Tele and a '50something Fender Champ and not much else that I could see. Would love a show about jazz tones - get Nels Cline or Julian on!
Saw him a few times as well and I'm a big fan of Julian (no to mention Nels, which I adore), but I must tell You he uses some pedals when playing with his trio, even with the new Nels Cline quartet. He's not a tweaker just a "set and go" player. Last time I saw a Strymon Flint, Tube Dreamer and a booster some kind of, but those were never tweaked during the whole performance, they are just situated where the amp is.
Ah that's fair. I couldn't see the stage floor, just the top of the amp. What a glorious tone.
Shwangri-La! Love it!
Great, video guys. Thank you!
Yep, both the Ox and Torpedo sound really excellent. Not at all like sitting next to a Cab, but The best part here I think, is that both of these boxes put you (and your Amp head) right in the control room of a recording studio. It’s a fantastic setup and incredibly realistic.
Interestingly I own both the Torpedo and the Ox and I’ve been running them both in Stereo and also Wet/dry with a Princeton and Vox through a Lehle Split box. That setup sounds amazing by the way. Maybe you could try it before Danish Pete gets back. Or is that just a big can O’ worms?!!
Also. Yes. Two Notes interfacing ain’t all lovely like UA’s. and for that, I’m with you. The one advantage of the Torpedo is that you can adjust mics etc directly on the box. Yes...Even room mics (they’re in there Mick, dig deeper!)
iPads/iPhones/WiFi can be annoying too, when you just wanna turn knobs. That reminds me. I haven’t opened my TonePrint app for a while!
Anyway. Cheers chaps. Loving your work. X
TFI TPS! Only a few minutes in & I’m smiling & nearly forgetting that downstairs lurk the sticky remains of my son’s 18th birthday party.
Mick, I love your honesty.
Cheers Patrick. It’s a fine line having an opinion. Because most of the planet disagrees with you when you do. But I figure it’s better to have something to disagree with than a load of vanilla marketing regurgitation at the end of the day. :0)
That Pedal Show Well said sir!
It always bugs me when people say "that's just your opinion, man"
It's that little word "just" - that's the flaw. It's similar to the "all value judgements are subjective" claim. Well, if that's true then is *that* claim merely subjective?
As the late Robert Pirsig wrote:
"Between Subject and Object lies the Value"
I'm sick of watching adults lie and pander to kids all over youtube. This and tonymckenziecom are where I have to go to find adults that actually can play and have some actual experience...and honesty.
You guys are so much happier in this version....got your attenuator on! Did Dan also get his Nuo headphones off Amazon? And double-thumbs up on the Schwangri La t-shirts!
Kudos on all the effort you put into this. I was definitely a bit negative on the previous video. You went above and beyond for this one. Much appreciated.
Super Video Guys. So thanks for this. Soundwise the OX and the Two Notes are equal. At least here in the clip. All rockguitarplayers are missing the interaction with the speaker. Will be another world forever. At least with the OX you have the chance to get it. Just attenuate while running the cab. Don´t know, if its possible with the Two Notes. Conclusion: I´m happy in The Land of OX. Greetz
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Can we talk about how Mick keeps bringing out larger and larger water bottles?? I about lost it when I grabbed that 30 gallon jug of sorts 😂
Great show. I hope to see in future show "how to sound good using IRs live" with Rebea :D please please plase. No matter what device would be used, there are lots of IRs and some of them are mixes of many microphones and with eq ready to play without adjusting such parameters like mics position or adding room mic's. Please :D Please note torpedo is working on an update and there will be available using 2 mic's and room mic's (now this functionality is avicilable too in CAB and Studio, don't know anything about torpedo studio).
Excellent show guys, really informative and plenty to think about. Big water bottles? managed to squirt half a pint of water up my nose driving down the M4 yesterday trying to drink one handed out of a full 2L bottle !
Just added the ox to the wish list. :) and those headphones that Dan was using. I almost picked them up on their kickstarter. Wish I would have now.
I'd be curious to see a poll among this audience on how they play on a regular basis. Headphones, combo, monitors, 4x12 etc. Maybe even more detailed stats on wattage and volume levels.
This episode seems to prove whats been said of the OX…a great sound quick with easy tweak ability. Neither sounded the same as miked .The OX sounded different but damn good. Sounding good, I think , is what matters most…different or not. Great show guys!
I'd agree Glenn. That's 20 per cent of it. The other 80 is what you play and whether it's worth playing in the first place. On a semi-serious note, Dan and I have to remind ourselves from time to time that all this is for nothing if we're not actually trying to say something with the music itself. Outside of TPS of course. Not much music here! :0)
LOVE my BeyerDynamics! All headphones are different though and each persons hearing range is different. Just like open cab/ closed back cabs, v30's, greenbacks, creambacks, Jensens, 12" drivers, 10" drivers, front ported, rear ported blah blah blah.
Hello. In case of the Torpedo . You can put a Volume pedal in the Fx loop of the Amp to attenuate. Same Effekt ;)
Going off the vintage Fender video that I just rewatched for the 100th time, you guys should try and do a vintage guitar with vintage pedal vs. reissue guitar with reissue pedals if you can get your hands on some old gear again.
Mick,seriously has the most comically large bottles of water that have ever existed. Like honestly. Where do you even get that.
Hey boys, great video! Another angle to this subject, I'm a worship pastor and have played with in ears and amps off stage for several years now. I recently played a gig in an outdoor venue and with a conventional loud stage...aka floor monitors, cranked amps, etc. It got me thinking that having in ears, allows you to hear your guitar at all times above the mix without the issue of it getting "lost" in the band, which I struggled with recently at the outdoor gig. I used my tube screamer the whole night which I almost never use when playing with in ears. The philosophical question then is, when you play with a loud stage conventionally as a musician and need to use sounds that "cut through the mix" to hear yourself, do you make a sacrifice trying to hear yourself and not using the right tone to fit the context of the band and the song you are playing? Whereas when playing with in ears, you can always clearly hear yourself and therefore are more freed up to allow your guitar to use a better variety of sounds that compliment the band and song...? Maybe a topic for a future show on the subject of direct vs amps on stage.
Mick, I'm glad you didn't have time to practice using the gear! This way, we get a sense of how complex it is to learn the stuff! That's important info for me.
I was very close to buy an OX, but instead built a 2m x 1.5m x 1.5m isolation cab/room in the garage.
Got two cabinets dualmiced with the sm57 fredman technique.
Im Able to crank the amps and listen to studiomonitors or headphones loud or quiet. Only thing missing would be a room-mic, but that can be sorted with reverbpedals or IR's of rooms in DAW😊
Ah man, that’s awesome!
SCHWANGRI-LA!!! Yes!!!!
Got to be a t-shirt with Dan as Buddha?