To add to step 4: Always, always move trialists to u23/reserves etc. The one you use as the dumpster not the one with your talents. Does not harm workload or dynamics then so only limited by board + As trial extension is not possible just trial for 4 weeks as default. Then check weekly yourself how good everyone is looking. Sometimes even on day 1 you can cull them.
Tip 9, set up the coach who giving you trials feedback. The higher the the judging ability and potential, the better information you will get about the player.
I do a mid season trial farm. Trial lots of players at the start of the season and if their demands are a bit too high id keep tabs on them and re-invite them on trial from time to time. Eventually, their demands will be really cheap especially after January. Got someone who first wanted 2.7k pw on just 500 pw. These players also can still improve your team depending on your teams level Theres also a glitch where if you mess up a contract negotiation when a player is on trial you can untrial and retrial them.
I would also like to add, even though it's not directly related to the concept of trial-farming, but if you want a player who's already considering a contract from another club offering them a trial will force them into a decision (and it in my experience never goes the way of the trial). So if there's a player who has no club and you want to approach them but you already see that nice 'BID' status button, you need to decide if you just want to offer them a contract or not approach them.
Extra tips: As mentioned before director of football suggestions and also people on non contracts or amateurs can also be easily trialed. Can easily filter to expired on contract status.
This is the best video for trial farms in Football Manager. It was an extremely helpful guide and yes try to look at training workload and shortlist often.
Zlatan wanted to join Arsenal but he refused to trial when Wenger asked as "Zlatan doesn't do trials". (In hindsight Wenger should have just taken the plunge of course.)
The other thing on the player search is to look for all players currently in the senior/u21/u18 national teams - picks up those with no caps but close to breaking through
To add to step 3. Sort by the info box on the left side. See who they are wanted by if there is the wnt icon. Bigger or similar size club? Interesting.
@@deeznoots6241 Honestly I started a save as Halifax (local town) and they have literally no money. £100k in the bank and absolutely no transfer or wage budget to speak of (5k free wages) Literally every player i took on trial was signed by another team no matter when i offered the contract. Could be after a day or after 13, made no difference. Bearing in mind it was a dishonest save where my manager had elite attributes it's like why would any player want to go play for a dogshit vanarama level manager when they're literally being offered a manager who has prem stats lmao
I had that problem in Portugal while doing Braga save, few teams share scouting knowledge, in 1st division of Portugal, among themselves which I didn't know at the time.
@@vasilijefilipovic1761 Yeah both the share scouting knowledge can do it. And I think Zealand mentioned it before. Bringing someone to your country then allows the AI that only has knowledge of said country to then also know that player. As the AI works of it's own shortlists. Then suddenly your trialists also show up there.
@@Hyde_Hill ye I figured but took me a while. I was thinking that Moreirense and a few more were just affiliates because of other colours and when I looked them up to send some players on loan there I saw what was affiliation about
Probably, although I don't know about the workload. For instance, if you dump the trials in the reserves, but you're using your reserves coaches in the first team training, I guess the workload would get worse, at least for them.
@@jacopomangini3036 Only for the reserves training and not for the main training. Yes maybe a bit gamey however how it works. And if that has changed just take them off reserves training hehe. It should be the team full of trialists and people to sell anyway.
I’ve been using my non-existent u19s and B team to do the trials. It doesn’t affect my training. I schedule friendlies to keep them fit and see who actually plays well.
I usually batter the trial in the off season when your first team is on hol as then your first team training will not be effected, then during the season limit the trials coming in
You can also sort the players by world reputation, this I find to be a quite useful way to find better players - they usually hang out near the top of the list
Has anyone done a video on how to search statistically on Player Search? Eg, show me all European left backs with more than 1000 min played and more than 1.5 dribbles pg?
I am having trouble in my save when it comes to trials. I can get players up to 4 week trials, but for some reason, i don't get any report after that, only at the time of the trial (without any hidden attributes shown). Does somebody know if it is fixed after this recent patch?
Here is how I beat Real Madrid to sign Mbappe free in summer 2022 by abusing trial (mbappe has preference to play for Real Madrid): 1) Starting in January, whenever someone offers a contract to Mbappe, offer him max wage + 50% yearly wage rise + 50% sell on fee. After he accept offer, delay whenever he ask for confirmation. He will pull out of the deal. (Do not press cancel; let Mbappe be the one who pull out) 2) repeat 1) until his contract at PSG runs out in summer 3) offer him trial immediately. Every time a new trial starts all interested clubs disappear. 4) when some clubs starts to get interested, terminate trial and offer trial again. 5) wait until transfer deadline day and Real Madrid will be uninterested ( or if you are lucky, Real Madrid might have no budget left before that) 6 Bonus: Being the first to offer Mbappe contract while he is on trial at your club will result him asking for lower wages
As a person who is Ivanov himself, I beg you: the surname has emphasis on the last syllable (actually, this particular one has variants, there was a painter called Alexander Ivanov and his surname is IvAnov). Just like a lot other Russian surnames, including Golovin and Miranchuk.
Since the uldate, I can no longer see the shirts and numbers of my players on the bottom during a match. Now I can only see their faces. I wonder if there is a way to change it back.
how come i can have someone on trial for 3-4 months... and when i finally have the money to sign the player and give him a contract offer.... 10 other clubs also try to sign him. why didnt they give him a contract offer before???
No such thing as a free lunch - 'free' players still have to be paid salary and bonuses. The real financial question here is how big a squad you should run.
Hahaha if English isn't your first language. English customers of mine e regularly tell me to slow down as I sound d to excitable, I'm northern Irish with a better grasp of the language than those who I speak to
I can't believe you've done this.
He's done you dirty here😂😳
Not as dirty as he done Ben
I read that with that vine accent
Wow. Jack, was this the first ever parody anyone ever did on you?
😂😂
Jacks been mudded here. well done.,
To add to step 4: Always, always move trialists to u23/reserves etc. The one you use as the dumpster not the one with your talents. Does not harm workload or dynamics then so only limited by board + As trial extension is not possible just trial for 4 weeks as default. Then check weekly yourself how good everyone is looking. Sometimes even on day 1 you can cull them.
exactly, I do the same, and cut a lot on day 1.
I was just thinking this! I’ve never done it but will be from now on
i can only give players match of 5 pounds for wage hahah casue im alloa
Tip 9, set up the coach who giving you trials feedback. The higher the the judging ability and potential, the better information you will get about the player.
Indeed, sir!
how do you do this?
i can only give players match of 5 pounds for wage hahah casue im alloa
I do a mid season trial farm. Trial lots of players at the start of the season and if their demands are a bit too high id keep tabs on them and re-invite them on trial from time to time. Eventually, their demands will be really cheap especially after January. Got someone who first wanted 2.7k pw on just 500 pw. These players also can still improve your team depending on your teams level
Theres also a glitch where if you mess up a contract negotiation when a player is on trial you can untrial and retrial them.
Animation is top quality, great job! :)
The "don't sue me please" logo - nice touch on the Man UFC player. xD
i can only give players match of 5 pounds for wage hahah casue im alloa
SO JACK GETS THAT AND I.... never mind Jack, I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS
Didn't ask + ratio g
Jack got rejected and sent away! You did not :)
I would also like to add, even though it's not directly related to the concept of trial-farming, but if you want a player who's already considering a contract from another club offering them a trial will force them into a decision (and it in my experience never goes the way of the trial). So if there's a player who has no club and you want to approach them but you already see that nice 'BID' status button, you need to decide if you just want to offer them a contract or not approach them.
My Spennymoor trial farm in FM20 has already gotten me 3 straight promotions and a few cup wins as well, very nice!
I'm still doing fm20 as well good game, my only previous FM was fm16
FM 21 is free right now if you have Amazon prime
@@joshua5174 ah I don't and my laptop wasn't really able for fm20.... Fm16 worked like a dream but fm20 struggle. Can't imagine 21 be better
@@deckyBWFC91 yeah my laptop isn't much better than a toaster either. Enjoy.
@@joshua5174 it's a killer isn't it, I play it on dots now or half and half zoomed out screen, just not the same. But great overall game. Cheers bud
The animation had me in stitches. Good for you, I hope you're okay.
You take the bad corn away, you have less corn to water. Therefore reducing the workload
1:25 "if English is not your first language, this might have been a bit fast"
Me, a German, watching at 1.5x speed: "you underestimate my power"
Extra tips: As mentioned before director of football suggestions and also people on non contracts or amateurs can also be easily trialed. Can easily filter to expired on contract status.
This is the best video for trial farms in Football Manager. It was an extremely helpful guide and yes try to look at training workload and shortlist often.
Had to pause the video just to comment on my love for these animations.
Zlatan wanted to join Arsenal but he refused to trial when Wenger asked as "Zlatan doesn't do trials". (In hindsight Wenger should have just taken the plunge of course.)
Meanwhile.. kolo toure. 🤣
Poor Jack... Is Lollujo up next in a future video? :))
Great animation, Tomleggosaurus!
The other thing on the player search is to look for all players currently in the senior/u21/u18 national teams - picks up those with no caps but close to breaking through
how do you get that filtered in Player Search? Couldn't find a way to do it
@@DerJuelz International -> National Team, then choose Main, U21 or U18
To add to step 3. Sort by the info box on the left side. See who they are wanted by if there is the wnt icon. Bigger or similar size club? Interesting.
Another tip that I’m sure most know, DOF, regardless of you actually have one can suggest very good free transfers and EOC players
I find that whenever i take players on trial it just allows other clubs to sign them easier
Lmao maybe one of your coaches is getting paid off
@@deeznoots6241 Honestly I started a save as Halifax (local town) and they have literally no money. £100k in the bank and absolutely no transfer or wage budget to speak of (5k free wages)
Literally every player i took on trial was signed by another team no matter when i offered the contract. Could be after a day or after 13, made no difference. Bearing in mind it was a dishonest save where my manager had elite attributes it's like why would any player want to go play for a dogshit vanarama level manager when they're literally being offered a manager who has prem stats lmao
I had that problem in Portugal while doing Braga save, few teams share scouting knowledge, in 1st division of Portugal, among themselves which I didn't know at the time.
@@vasilijefilipovic1761 Yeah both the share scouting knowledge can do it. And I think Zealand mentioned it before. Bringing someone to your country then allows the AI that only has knowledge of said country to then also know that player. As the AI works of it's own shortlists. Then suddenly your trialists also show up there.
@@Hyde_Hill ye I figured but took me a while. I was thinking that Moreirense and a few more were just affiliates because of other colours and when I looked them up to send some players on loan there I saw what was affiliation about
Can you 'game' the workload/cohesion problems a bit by putting triallists in the reserves/U23s perhaps?
Yup always do that.
Probably, although I don't know about the workload. For instance, if you dump the trials in the reserves, but you're using your reserves coaches in the first team training, I guess the workload would get worse, at least for them.
@@jacopomangini3036 Only for the reserves training and not for the main training. Yes maybe a bit gamey however how it works. And if that has changed just take them off reserves training hehe. It should be the team full of trialists and people to sell anyway.
ARTHUR MEMES!!!
so many people will miss that. well done!
Love the animation
I’ve been using my non-existent u19s and B team to do the trials. It doesn’t affect my training. I schedule friendlies to keep them fit and see who actually plays well.
And there's that little thing I didn't know. The little tab beside transfer to add players Unsure . Have my like
My English is so good I watch Zealand at 1.25x speed
I usually batter the trial in the off season when your first team is on hol as then your first team training will not be effected, then during the season limit the trials coming in
You can also sort the players by world reputation, this I find to be a quite useful way to find better players - they usually hang out near the top of the list
I just have this image of Zealand as the farmer with Kev as the sheep dog herding his trialists on the farm.
I love the subscribe shout-out there, very sneaky sir
Soooo cool my friend 🔥☺
I always send trialists to u-18 team so the workload in first team is not impacted
Does that really work?
will you still get all the info?
Exactly what I was going to comment, you still get all the info and the impact on your 1st team is negligible.. and allows you to run a 300+ farm 😃
Has anyone done a video on how to search statistically on Player Search? Eg, show me all European left backs with more than 1000 min played and more than 1.5 dribbles pg?
Very sneaky. Already subbed tho 😉
This channel just keeps giving amazing content
So well done
Smashed it bud
I am having trouble in my save when it comes to trials.
I can get players up to 4 week trials, but for some reason, i don't get any report after that, only at the time of the trial (without any hidden attributes shown). Does somebody know if it is fixed after this recent patch?
According to the patch the info will last a bit longer after they leave.
It is fixed now, yes
Nice! Thanks m8s
I hope that plane ticket costs something in future FMs ..
In my experience you know as much about a trialist 10 days into the trial than you do 14+ days into the trial. So I always make a decision on day 10.
Here is how I beat Real Madrid to sign Mbappe free in summer 2022 by abusing trial (mbappe has preference to play for Real Madrid):
1) Starting in January, whenever someone offers a contract to Mbappe, offer him max wage + 50% yearly wage rise + 50% sell on fee. After he accept offer, delay whenever he ask for confirmation. He will pull out of the deal. (Do not press cancel; let Mbappe be the one who pull out)
2) repeat 1) until his contract at PSG runs out in summer
3) offer him trial immediately. Every time a new trial starts all interested clubs disappear.
4) when some clubs starts to get interested, terminate trial and offer trial again.
5) wait until transfer deadline day and Real Madrid will be uninterested ( or if you are lucky, Real Madrid might have no budget left before that)
6 Bonus: Being the first to offer Mbappe contract while he is on trial at your club will result him asking for lower wages
Maybe give Jack a trial as assistant manager xD.
As a person who is Ivanov himself, I beg you: the surname has emphasis on the last syllable (actually, this particular one has variants, there was a painter called Alexander Ivanov and his surname is IvAnov). Just like a lot other Russian surnames, including Golovin and Miranchuk.
And the Andrei Ivanov Zealand is talking about is the best left-footed corner taker I have ever seen
What hidden attribute Jack had? 👀🤔🤷♂️
FM is my first languange, don't worry
I'm infinitely grateful that this planet's food security isn't up to Zealand.
I thought that was Hank Hill alongside Ronaldo and Messi lol
Could you do a position tier list for FM22 please? You didn't rate a BWM highly in FM21 however you use one now in the Dorfa save..
Would it be viable to use your B Team as the trial farm if you can afford to maintain a B Team? This way, it won’t affect first team coaching.
Stay tuned for next week when Zealand tells you all about how to Work The Space
Regarding training and cohesion decline, I move all my trials to the B or U19 teams. I'm pretty sure this fixes the problem, but please confirm.
That's the best "click subscribe" clip ive seen
You should do ten steps rehab program for FM addicts.
If you put your triallists in your reserve squad, does it have less impact on the cohesion/atmosphere?
That's what I posted up in the thread. I think so.
Yes. I think I got it now.
Bada boom. Bada bing.
very helpful thanks :(
It's that the Milovan?
Since the uldate, I can no longer see the shirts and numbers of my players on the bottom during a match. Now I can only see their faces.
I wonder if there is a way to change it back.
how come i can have someone on trial for 3-4 months... and when i finally have the money to sign the player and give him a contract offer.... 10 other clubs also try to sign him. why didnt they give him a contract offer before???
If they have an agent, he’ll notify other clubs that he has received a contract from you. So then other clubs may offer him contracts as well
Jokes on you.... I watch everything at 2x already so I can just slow it down to 1.75x ;)
You are the bear.... Beast? Hawk?
LETSGOOOO
Can't believe that you rejected Work the Space already in the intro.....
Does it effects the dynamics?
Next minute, SI patches trialling just like they’ve done with near post corners. 😂
These animations are fire ahahahahah
In regards to training set all trialists to 'Rest'?
How does one simulate a couple seasons? Better way than to just "Go on Vacation"?
Can you change a player with the black suilette* to a regen face?
No such thing as a free lunch - 'free' players still have to be paid salary and bonuses. The real financial question here is how big a squad you should run.
What if downloaded a chrome extension and was on 3x speed and still understood what u were saying
Poor Jack! :(
you are funny
badabing badaboom
what about place all trialist to u-19? It damage only u19 team which is still empty :D
Does trial affect club's finance?
Feel sad for the guy in the beginning .
so if I got it right it's bada-bing bada-boom, right? thanks for the tip Z
Has jack jacksplained to you how unhappy he is?
Its so funny he said we could watch it slower... but I watch all my videos at 2x XD
Is Zealand Okay?
ty z
Bada bing bada boom. Send Zealand back to Florida. New York is having a bad effect on him
Damn Jack :(
Spoilers Z :( i was not up to date with the dorfers...
Hahaha if English isn't your first language. English customers of mine e regularly tell me to slow down as I sound d to excitable, I'm northern Irish with a better grasp of the language than those who I speak to
Is that other player supposed to be WorkTheSpace lol
6:03 is that a typo in link? omegalul
Poor Jack
slow it down to 0.75x... anything less that 2.0x and i get bored lol
nice polarised ray bans
Lord zealand
Fqk trials. Just use the scouting the right way.
badebeng
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