Very interesting. Do you run your skorpeths in units of 3 or 6? My opponent usually uses csm chosen bricks of 10, do you think they are a good check for that kind of unit or do you suggest something else?
love the video! I agree with most of your list and need to pick up some auto-includes. Was curious to see Tomb Blades in that list, you like them for the movement?
Am I happy with Star Shatter? Yes. But I'm with you. I was waiting for and hoping for a Silver Tide list so hard. I have the box full of warriors waiting, just WAITING for GW to show them ANY LOVE again. Your commentary on this earned the Sub. Good content, keep it up.
The only things i have fully painted and based is (half) my 3x 20 man warrior blobs and my skorpeth destroyers, neither have been used barely at all in 10th 😂.
You're sleeping on 20 warriors (reapers) with Orikan, royal warden with nether realm casket. Followed by a reanimator and ghost ark in Awakened. A basically unkillable Anchor if you can hide the Ark and Reanimator. Also can't go wrong with Szeras nearby as well
@PNW40K yeah about 640 pts for it but its a lot of fun watching a mechanized guard army burn 90% of it's shooting into a warrior blob that loses 0 models by the end of the turn.
I love having a 20-man Warrior blob led by a Chronomancer. Enemies get -1 to hit making them deceptively tough, and even with short range weapons, if the Chrono shoot (18") they can scoot afterwards :)
Just pick-up ONE warrior in the unit with Gauss Flayer replacing Gauss Reaper (it is authorized) and you will gain 24ps range for your Fire and Fade possibility (+6" range than Chronomancer)
This list is pretty accurate except for your placement of the monolith, also warriors. Especially with starshatter acting as a small buff to both of them
Personally I still have a great time in HC (80%wr i think). I think it is a nice tierlist, though it is skewed to your playstyle. (I would rate Ctan higher fe) And that's great! Necron have all kinds of great datasheets and we can play all types of creative lists!
Necrons are in a really good spot, other then Starshatter I think being the outlier but tough to say until Stats come out. It does really struggle in the primary game
@@PNW40K I know thst mr Siegler from Art of War still likes Canoptek Court with 3x Doomstalkers and TSK to hand out ignores modifiers and every thing else our dear king brings
As you I ALWAYS use it. Good description of their rôle done in your deployment vidéo. Early possibility about secondaries (Locus, Cleanse, Extend, Secure, Area Denial...) in addition to push out other infiltrators and make screening... all of that or only 60pts...
Also dude you forgot our flyers! The night scythe is pretty meh but the doom scythe does a pretty good doomsday ark impresion if you squint enough! At least one turn of good shooting at almost anything on the board with access to rerolls of 1's and +1 to hit/wound it does have potential!
how you can say that 190 for Gosharks is criminal for the point cost? have you seen the monter Tyranids shooting units? How many times you roll 1+1 for your shooting? I will only agree to see a point rase at DA if they make the shots D6+3.
No love for the 10 Tesla Immortal + Plasmancer combo in AD? It might be frail and expensive, but it can really wipe infantry and heavy infantry squads off the table
It certainly can, i think its more along the lines of, we dont have problems wiping that out and have other tools that can do that and then some more. Especially with Gauss being double nerfed with AP and then Strength for warriors (Plus 10th ed cover) has caused those units to fall out of favor
On reflection you guys are right, I guess with their current cost Immortals with a leader are ~210 points which does make them quite expensive and like you say, there are cheaper options at the moment
I have lost the last couple of games against my brother who plays Tyranids. He has two tyrranofexs who one shot anything in the open and x9 von Ryan leapers to have like 36 attacks total that shreds anything on objectives, plus his other more typical units. Any advice? I have tried hypercrpyt and starshatter to no avail.
Tyranids are for sure tricky for the crons. You have to make sure you have enough trash in your list in the early game, also setting up overwatch threats to keep them back.
Wrong! Oh my god... Titus is SSS Omega tier. He should be 2000pts alone. Body all of you.... Wait.... Oh, Necrons.. oh.. no your good bro. These are my tears for Anrahkyr. 😢 My power fantasy prince. His time will come again when the Truth about his birth (the worst kept secret) rises to the light. Cheers -Alpharious-
So.. real question. Why is your opinion valid? I can’t seem to find any info on who you are, or why I should listen to you. What makes you an authority? PS don’t listen to these “lip smacking” people. It’s fine. You’re good. It’s a normal thing for that normal people do, and Warhammer is full of idiots who think being a superfan automatically makes their opinions valid even though they contribute nothing more than criticism.
Totally valid, I don't claim to be the best in the world. I am simply someone who has played 200 games of 10th edition with only Necrons at a high level
Do you really think HC is foing wrong ? Ok it was nerfed. But really, minus 1 jnit for HC is not so bad and Deep Strike 3 to 6 is a big nerf sure but not an impossible way to play HC game. My Gameplay in HC is mainly based on Primary Denial and force commit by recall then Primary scoring by Protocole Réanimation way. It works well if you protect yoir monolith and manage units thar can one shot your warriors packs
Need more mouth smacks and mouth sounds! I think your mic is great, but it literally picks up every little annoying sound. Just FYI if you arent watching your vids back.
Very interesting. Do you run your skorpeths in units of 3 or 6? My opponent usually uses csm chosen bricks of 10, do you think they are a good check for that kind of unit or do you suggest something else?
You would need more or something else to hit them first
Absolutely love your videos, just got myself 3 arks🙏
Appreciate you being here! Build those baby's up!
love the video! I agree with most of your list and need to pick up some auto-includes. Was curious to see Tomb Blades in that list, you like them for the movement?
Just a great utility unit in SSA
Am I happy with Star Shatter? Yes. But I'm with you. I was waiting for and hoping for a Silver Tide list so hard. I have the box full of warriors waiting, just WAITING for GW to show them ANY LOVE again. Your commentary on this earned the Sub. Good content, keep it up.
For real man, so bummed about that as all my warriors are collecting dust. Thank you for being here and a lot of good stuff coming down the pipeline!
I feel this, I have a army bag full of them (180 warriors) that i was gifted a long time ago.
The only things i have fully painted and based is (half) my 3x 20 man warrior blobs and my skorpeth destroyers, neither have been used barely at all in 10th 😂.
You're sleeping on 20 warriors (reapers) with Orikan, royal warden with nether realm casket. Followed by a reanimator and ghost ark in Awakened. A basically unkillable Anchor if you can hide the Ark and Reanimator. Also can't go wrong with Szeras nearby as well
Definitely a solid combo, it is quite a point investment for that package though
@PNW40K yeah about 640 pts for it but its a lot of fun watching a mechanized guard army burn 90% of it's shooting into a warrior blob that loses 0 models by the end of the turn.
I love having a 20-man Warrior blob led by a Chronomancer. Enemies get -1 to hit making them deceptively tough, and even with short range weapons, if the Chrono shoot (18") they can scoot afterwards :)
It is a great combo!
Just pick-up ONE warrior in the unit with Gauss Flayer replacing Gauss Reaper (it is authorized) and you will gain 24ps range for your Fire and Fade possibility (+6" range than Chronomancer)
@@oblik889 that's true!
16:37 lokhust lord in heavies significantly increases damage in almost any target because of enhancement and 5+ crits
This list is pretty accurate except for your placement of the monolith, also warriors. Especially with starshatter acting as a small buff to both of them
If you can make it work I am here for it
Personally I still have a great time in HC (80%wr i think). I think it is a nice tierlist, though it is skewed to your playstyle. (I would rate Ctan higher fe) And that's great! Necron have all kinds of great datasheets and we can play all types of creative lists!
Necrons are in a really good spot, other then Starshatter I think being the outlier but tough to say until Stats come out. It does really struggle in the primary game
Hot take:
Cryptothralls only home is Canoptek Court with access to a wraithbrick with infiltrait to off set their slow speed
@@Matsdur CANOPTEK could have some legs with the points drop
@@PNW40K I know thst mr Siegler from Art of War still likes Canoptek Court with 3x Doomstalkers and TSK to hand out ignores modifiers and every thing else our dear king brings
You have an example or an elaboration about why flayed ones are so good?
Early game scoring and cheap trade piece. It makes it very easy to score a lot secondary's T1. Area denial, engage, secure, extend
As you I ALWAYS use it. Good description of their rôle done in your deployment vidéo. Early possibility about secondaries (Locus, Cleanse, Extend, Secure, Area Denial...) in addition to push out other infiltrators and make screening... all of that or only 60pts...
I was hoping to get your opinion on the Seraptek Heavy Construct. Is there anything to do with this model in the new detachment?
I mean if you have it, super damn fun in a causal game. But not going to see it in your local tournaments
Also dude you forgot our flyers!
The night scythe is pretty meh but the doom scythe does a pretty good doomsday ark impresion if you squint enough! At least one turn of good shooting at almost anything on the board with access to rerolls of 1's and +1 to hit/wound it does have potential!
@@Matsdur I know haha realized that after but I think it seems GW is wanting to move away from flyers in competitive play
I too like Skorpekh destroyers, but anything that has fight first totally defuses them...and there are a lot of those!
Totally true, but most early skirmish units they will pick up
how you can say that 190 for Gosharks is criminal for the point cost? have you seen the monter Tyranids shooting units? How many times you roll 1+1 for your shooting? I will only agree to see a point rase at DA if they make the shots D6+3.
I get where you are coming from but I think you have to factor in the suite of strats available
Are you going to LVO? What would by the better Dynasty?
Not this year :/ probably for sure next year. I will be at a Local GT same weekend. Next Super Major would be US Open in July
No love for the 10 Tesla Immortal + Plasmancer combo in AD? It might be frail and expensive, but it can really wipe infantry and heavy infantry squads off the table
It certainly can, i think its more along the lines of, we dont have problems wiping that out and have other tools that can do that and then some more. Especially with Gauss being double nerfed with AP and then Strength for warriors (Plus 10th ed cover) has caused those units to fall out of favor
@@JohnSmith-bf1qy you are totally right i just think we have better tools that can do it for cheaper
1CP for the rerolls, getting
On reflection you guys are right, I guess with their current cost Immortals with a leader are ~210 points which does make them quite expensive and like you say, there are cheaper options at the moment
@@JohnSmith-bf1qyplease could you list a couple cheaper options? Genuine question
Are you located in Seattle?
Portland
I have lost the last couple of games against my brother who plays Tyranids. He has two tyrranofexs who one shot anything in the open and x9 von Ryan leapers to have like 36 attacks total that shreds anything on objectives, plus his other more typical units. Any advice? I have tried hypercrpyt and starshatter to no avail.
Tyranids are for sure tricky for the crons. You have to make sure you have enough trash in your list in the early game, also setting up overwatch threats to keep them back.
23:00 it's Zandrekh
I love the content but it's hard to watch with all the lip smacking
@@kylemacgillivary5577 getting fixed next week and agree with you!
Should be a pretty easy fix! Your mic is too close. Love your content as well, great job!!!
Killed me too 😖😖😖
@@PNW40K Awesome to hear!
Like the video but saw this comment first 😭 still get the like 👍🏻
I agree with almost all, I’d probably rate the Chronomancer and Immortals higher😊
Chrono/immortals are addicting
Wrong! Oh my god... Titus is SSS Omega tier. He should be 2000pts alone. Body all of you.... Wait.... Oh, Necrons.. oh.. no your good bro.
These are my tears for Anrahkyr. 😢 My power fantasy prince. His time will come again when the Truth about his birth (the worst kept secret) rises to the light.
Cheers
-Alpharious-
hahaha nah man at least make him 1980 so I can get a good enhancement
Cheers,
From yours truly
So.. real question. Why is your opinion valid? I can’t seem to find any info on who you are, or why I should listen to you. What makes you an authority?
PS don’t listen to these “lip smacking” people. It’s fine. You’re good. It’s a normal thing for that normal people do, and Warhammer is full of idiots who think being a superfan automatically makes their opinions valid even though they contribute nothing more than criticism.
Totally valid, I don't claim to be the best in the world. I am simply someone who has played 200 games of 10th edition with only Necrons at a high level
Do you really think HC is foing wrong ? Ok it was nerfed. But really, minus 1 jnit for HC is not so bad and Deep Strike 3 to 6 is a big nerf sure but not an impossible way to play HC game. My Gameplay in HC is mainly based on Primary Denial and force commit by recall then Primary scoring by Protocole Réanimation way. It works well if you protect yoir monolith and manage units thar can one shot your warriors packs
HC will still be good just overshadowed by others
Need more mouth smacks and mouth sounds! I think your mic is great, but it literally picks up every little annoying sound. Just FYI if you arent watching your vids back.
lol getting fixed this week, I agree
Every time you pronounce it s'tan instead of c'tan. I want to click off. Otherwise good content.
Appreciate the feedback
The lip smacking is horrible.. I can't watch this mate..
Totally agree, check back next week
I do not understand this kind of comment from people about a free experience sharing... Just get out of there and shut up.