This is one of the gems Kobe learned from his time with Hakeem. I remember Hakeem demonstrating using both feet when you break down to shimmy so you can spin from either direction.
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Nah many refs don’t really call travels unless it’s out of a triple threat when it’s pretty obvious but do this move in game , it’s happening so fast that it’s not gonna get called
@@jamie7622 I've never seen a jump stop called a travel, otherwise 99% of layups would be called. If you see this getting called a travel, they either aren't doing it right or the ref is just calling stuff
@@rangogoat that doesn't make any sense... if you move your pivor foot it should be a travel... I know there is implementation of the "0th step" but this is not even it... you basically do the jump stop (allowed), you pivot (allowed) and then you move your pivot foot (travel)... why is this clean then?
Lol the move he explained is indeed correctly not a travel, however the first example he showed in the clip is not the same. The first move establishes a pivot foot then lifts the pivot foot at the finish. That IS a travel. But yeah the actual verbal explanation is correct
@@waynewilson1068 The problem with the first move is the gather. He is pivoting on his left foot as he gathers the ball, then hops, then pivots on the right foot on the finish. Like I said, as he explains the move verbally he is correct but the first example of him demonstrating it is not quite done correctly h. Upon ending his dribble or gaining control of the ball, a player may not touch the floor consecutively with the same foot (hop).
In the 2. clip, where he's playing ball, he also does a small travel. He jumps in and pivots on his left foot (pulls his right foot backwards) to I guess stop himself falling backwards then pivots on his right foot to the basket. I just noticed you were probably talking about the same thing.
@@karihotakainen5210 but his front foot leaves the ground before his pivot foot. Once that happens it’s a travel because the front foot becomes a second pivot foot when the original pivot foot leaves the floor.
According to the rules you’re allowed to change your pivot foot so long as you’re going up for a shot or passing the ball. It’s why stepping through in the post is legal, or Dirk’s post fade is legal even after picking up the ball (Dirks fade you step off your pivot and fade off your back foot which is technically changing your pivot.)
It's allowed to get lifted,if it not then your literally not allowed allowed to jump lol. Your allowed as long aw you pass or shoot whilst in the air. Your basically saying all the great nba players travelled
I agree it would be legal if he didn’t jump off both feet. When u gather the ball in the air and land on two feet, both feet can pivot but once u pivot on one foot and then switch, you cannot then plant your first pivot foot on the floor without getting rid of the basketball.
Hakeem Olajuwon and Michael Jordan did it first, no disrespect to Kobe. In a interview, Hakeem said that he would do a move like that because he hasn't established a pivotal foot.
No. but the NBA, College, and high school rulebooks that say you can lift your pivot foot as long as you shoot or pass before it returns to the ground and also define how to establish said pivot foot would hold up though.
The closer you get to being borderline travelling, the more likely you are to be called on it. There are other less risky ways to try and beat a defender
“But, ref, most players step into like a normal spin move, all I can do if I spin into it is pivot this way. What Kobe does is hop into. I haven’t established my pivot foot so I can shimy either way.”
You are allowed to lift your pivot foot though. As long as it is for at shot and not something else. Special rule and was point of emphasis a few years back. Which is why its always good to practise hooks off one leg from anywhere inside 3 range.
Many players fail to understand and master the jump stop, which by definition means both feet land at the same time. It's not easy to do when you have momentum going in a direction. So many players argue that they made a jump stop when in fact they let one foot hit the ground before the other one, or the second foot actually taps/bounces/drags-which means it touches twice, which is a traveling violation. After a failed "jump stop", now they have no steps left, and no pivot allowed. Work on the jump stop because if you master it, then you can do many things out of it, as this video shows well.
Using what Kobe does, but remember the NBA has a different set of rules then the classic basketball rules. Also after he jump stops, he established a pivot, then puts a foot down to do his layup, and his pivot comes off the ground.
iirc, after establishing a pivot foot, you can take it off the ground without passing or shooting. It just can't come back down with the ball in your hands.
It's not the footwork. It's whether you palming the ball into your jump stop gets counted for steps or not. Where I'm from, if you're carrying the ball, even with one hand, they start counting. The count doesn't begin as soon as you want when you put two hands on the ball. A lot of moves where people argue whether it's a travel or not come down to this. The argument is whether you've picked up your dribble even though there's only one hand on the ball. I'd call it a travel since it's picked up during the spin before the jump stop.
In the intro first move is a travel, its just not called. You have to leave the ground off 2 foot jump otherwise you've switched pivot. Your back foot leaves the ground before your front foot.
A lot of casuals here fail to understand that referees are very familiar with pivot foot establishment. If you cannot grasp the concept of a jumpstop, this move will never make sense to you....and you most definitely don't have a post game and footwork.
Bruh I learned that move on my own watching basketball alot I always say jump into your pivot plp thought I was traveling but I hadn't established a pivot yet this move was O P.
It seems like his key focus is on the Shemy move, because at around 14 secs and about 24secs into the video you can actually use another step onto a spin move layup.. when you pick up your dribble your allowed two steps
That first move is a travel tho. Not because you can’t do it, but because this guy didn’t execute it correctly. Pay attention to his steps as he dribbles. He’s trying to abuse the gather step rule into a jump stop which is plausible. Except when you take two steps after dribbling and before gathering, that means you’re taking 2 “gather steps” which isn’t a thing, you only get one.
They calling that a travel everytime and it is , when you took your layup you took a 3rd step, no matter what ...And the kobe break down had nothing to do with up and under and stepping into a layup, kobe and mike faded away or took the jump shot with that kind of gather!
Never took a 3rd step, first. Second they don’t call this a travel. Kyrie does it all the time and hasn’t ever been called. This is a profession players move. A lot of ppl execute this in their own ways every game. I have never seen it called a travel.
I look at Jayson Tatums game! He does a lot of moves like this! And he trained and watched tons of film from Kobe so everything I am learning is coming from the same path
But when you actually lay it up, you need to use your not pivot foot to power yourself in the air so you gotta pick up your pivot. I'm not trying to be a smartass but that seems like a travel.
So in other words kobe saw the rulebook and found a loophole technically allowing him to break a rule without actually breaking it for an advantage. Rest in Peace to the Legend
What he forgot to say is after you jump stop which ever foot you decide to spin off of when you jump to do your lay up you have to jump off of both feet, you cannot stop thru and jump off your none pivot foot or it is in fact a travel.
My footwork use to be crazy & refs would call me fa travels because dey ain’t know shit about da game 🤦🏾♂️ I use to get called for travels every damn game for shit dat wasn’t no travel
It doesn’t matter whether it’s a travel or not. What really matters is whether you’re gonna get called for a travel.
Nobody gets called for a travel
@@jimberry5318 only lebron.
Legit lebron is mainly the only player I’ve ever seen get called for travel.
@@mumblezz__5890 wtf? I think you mean he's the only one who DOESN'T get called for a travel.. along with harden of course
@@thizz707gr ha you just exposed yourself as not watching basketball. Bron gets called every game damn near for travel.
@@mumblezz__5890 you're just a fanboy.. there's literally compilations of lebron not getting called for shit..
This is one of the gems Kobe learned from his time with Hakeem. I remember Hakeem demonstrating using both feet when you break down to shimmy so you can spin from either direction.
Thought I was gonna have to be the one. This man just gave the Dream Shake to Kobe.
Facts! Kobe fans know where he learned it from!
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If it looks like it’s a travel, it’s probably getting called.
Nah many refs don’t really call travels unless it’s out of a triple threat when it’s pretty obvious but do this move in game , it’s happening so fast that it’s not gonna get called
Yep in college and high school. They do whatever they want in the pro's.
@@michaelrichardson6861 Exactly. It’s good to know if a move is or isn’t a travel but if it’s gonna get called each time, why waste your energy?
Not a travel though
@@jamie7622 I've never seen a jump stop called a travel, otherwise 99% of layups would be called. If you see this getting called a travel, they either aren't doing it right or the ref is just calling stuff
Love this! I see alot of people call travel on moves because they don't understand the pivot foot and how it can be utilised
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why isn't it a travel when you end up moving the pivot foot for that step-through?
@@denistvarog4053 because he didn’t place it back down
@@rangogoat that doesn't make any sense... if you move your pivor foot it should be a travel... I know there is implementation of the "0th step" but this is not even it... you basically do the jump stop (allowed), you pivot (allowed) and then you move your pivot foot (travel)... why is this clean then?
Lol the move he explained is indeed correctly not a travel, however the first example he showed in the clip is not the same. The first move establishes a pivot foot then lifts the pivot foot at the finish. That IS a travel. But yeah the actual verbal explanation is correct
A travel is lifting your pivot foot and setting it back down... you can lift your pivot foot otherwise almost every up and under would be a travel.
@@waynewilson1068 The problem with the first move is the gather. He is pivoting on his left foot as he gathers the ball, then hops, then pivots on the right foot on the finish. Like I said, as he explains the move verbally he is correct but the first example of him demonstrating it is not quite done correctly
h. Upon ending his dribble or gaining control of the ball, a player may not touch the floor consecutively with the same foot (hop).
In the 2. clip, where he's playing ball, he also does a small travel. He jumps in and pivots on his left foot (pulls his right foot backwards) to I guess stop himself falling backwards then pivots on his right foot to the basket.
I just noticed you were probably talking about the same thing.
100 percent. Thought the same thing. Ball still in hand as he lifted pivot foot. Noob post lol.
@@cheo3030 You can jump for a layup on either foot , doesn't matter
That’s a tuff detail to master
Hence, the KOBE example.
You have to do it as slow as necessary to do it perfect.. then do it faster and fast till you’ve master it.
I really love this move but you must inform the ref and demo this move before you play.
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Why isn't the end of the step through a travel though? He lifts off his pivot to step through and his non-pivot foot is still clearly on the ground
Because he shoots the ball before his pivot foot touches the ground again. It is not a travel. Check out clips of e.g. Luka doing this.
@@karihotakainen5210 but his front foot leaves the ground before his pivot foot. Once that happens it’s a travel because the front foot becomes a second pivot foot when the original pivot foot leaves the floor.
Yeah man, you get called for that in all the lower levels of bball
@@coachs2822 You can jump off of either foot when you're pivoting. A step is not a step until your foot touches the ground again after being lifted.
According to the rules you’re allowed to change your pivot foot so long as you’re going up for a shot or passing the ball. It’s why stepping through in the post is legal, or Dirk’s post fade is legal even after picking up the ball (Dirks fade you step off your pivot and fade off your back foot which is technically changing your pivot.)
That first one definitely is, and I'd LOVE to see you try and fight a ref about it
i like the hop step pivot because it really knocks everyone for a loop if they aren’t paying attention.
Very first clip is definitely a travel. Established pivot gets lifted equals 3rd step
It's allowed to get lifted,if it not then your literally not allowed allowed to jump lol. Your allowed as long aw you pass or shoot whilst in the air. Your basically saying all the great nba players travelled
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That move isn't a travel if you do it right. This dude didn't.
hmmm ... he did ... at least 5 times
I agree it would be legal if he didn’t jump off both feet. When u gather the ball in the air and land on two feet, both feet can pivot but once u pivot on one foot and then switch, you cannot then plant your first pivot foot on the floor without getting rid of the basketball.
I was always under the impression that the jumpstop counted as two, and once you pivot from there, it's a 3rd step.
He had to have learned this from the training with Hakeem
Omg,I really needed this video too😭😭
I was tryna pull this off during the hoop session today🔥🙌🏽
Nice breakdown, I never really paid attention to the jump stop players do when going into this move.
I thought it was something about gather steps lol. Thanks
when i was growing up, you couldnt take any more steps after the hop. So this will always look like a travel to me
Technically the hop is the gather step/zero step so you have 2 more steps after. Essentially the whole basis of the double step back.
Remember when travel didn’t exist? Those were the good ol days
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Hakeem Olajuwon and Michael Jordan did it first, no disrespect to Kobe. In a interview, Hakeem said that he would do a move like that because he hasn't established a pivotal foot.
I don't think the "but Kobe used to do it" will hold up in court
What about “but kobe, mj and hakeem used to do it.” ?
@Ronit Banerjea He got away with that?
No. but the NBA, College, and high school rulebooks that say you can lift your pivot foot as long as you shoot or pass before it returns to the ground and also define how to establish said pivot foot would hold up though.
Funny how star players have tiny tricks all over to get an edge...its amazing how extremely competitive some people can actually be.
It’s a travelling……just before ball releases from your hand you change your ‘stable foot’…….advantage for the offence player……those are the rules……
Facts. The move he breaks down slowly and what he actually does at real speed have a 1-2 steps difference 🙄
You know, Kobe made a real impact on the earth!
Great speech but the Ref won't care once he's called a travel.
Looks like something Kobe picked up from Hakeem. That’s exactly how he would hop in to set up the Dream Shake.
The closer you get to being borderline travelling, the more likely you are to be called on it. There are other less risky ways to try and beat a defender
They'll call it at the junior high level. NBA level will let one get away with a little more.
kobe & hakeem used it mad often and never got travels called
Great call!!
“But, ref, most players step into like a normal spin move, all I can do if I spin into it is pivot this way. What Kobe does is hop into. I haven’t established my pivot foot so I can shimy either way.”
So this is why footwork is key
You are allowed to lift your pivot foot though. As long as it is for at shot and not something else. Special rule and was point of emphasis a few years back. Which is why its always good to practise hooks off one leg from anywhere inside 3 range.
Many players fail to understand and master the jump stop, which by definition means both feet land at the same time. It's not easy to do when you have momentum going in a direction. So many players argue that they made a jump stop when in fact they let one foot hit the ground before the other one, or the second foot actually taps/bounces/drags-which means it touches twice, which is a traveling violation. After a failed "jump stop", now they have no steps left, and no pivot allowed. Work on the jump stop because if you master it, then you can do many things out of it, as this video shows well.
Using what Kobe does, but remember the NBA has a different set of rules then the classic basketball rules. Also after he jump stops, he established a pivot, then puts a foot down to do his layup, and his pivot comes off the ground.
Hakeem hit the shake better than anyone else. Surprised you didn't mention him.
Couldn’t even tell you the last time I saw a travel called.
This is actually an up and down bro. Your turning the ball over every time with this one
Nope, called a jump step. Your dad must have taught you 50s rules.
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It's not the shimmy that's important. It's the drive forward after you take that first pivot backwards.
Basketball looks like a dance routine when he breaks it down like this.
He said Kobe! Bro give Hakeem his credit bro! He literally taught Kobe this post move.
The first move was a travel. The one against the defender wasn't. He didn't reproduce the first move correctly as he explained.
Once he layed up off the other foot, right??
That is a travel because your pivot foot lifts when you spin
Yeah.
He raised the pivot foot before shoot, 0:45
It's not travel
Bro looks like a travel to me
It’s called a jump stop, great move every beginner should learn
iirc, after establishing a pivot foot, you can take it off the ground without passing or shooting. It just can't come back down with the ball in your hands.
It’s a travel in HS ball. And lots of organizations use HS/college rules to ref games. Whether it’s your local men’s league and what not.
In the beginning of the clip, you left your (right)pivot foot once you stepped in for the layup. Travel..........
Exactamundo. Pros do it aaaall the time🤷🏾🤦🏾
If you master the correct footwork you will very rarely ever get travel calls in a game lol. Pretty simple
Landing on both feet is great because you can choose your pivot.. bo bell has a bunch of great drill for this
0:16 yes you can. That first step is your gather, no need to pivot.
Depends if the ball is considered to have been caried to the position.
That really Hakeem TheDream Olajuwon move THE DREAM SHAKE
You get two steps anyway. Hence the huge lead ups to lay ups and dunks where they just stride and leap.
It's not the footwork. It's whether you palming the ball into your jump stop gets counted for steps or not. Where I'm from, if you're carrying the ball, even with one hand, they start counting. The count doesn't begin as soon as you want when you put two hands on the ball. A lot of moves where people argue whether it's a travel or not come down to this. The argument is whether you've picked up your dribble even though there's only one hand on the ball. I'd call it a travel since it's picked up during the spin before the jump stop.
When he explains the quick hop but then doesn't even do it in his last example haha
Not traveling but have fun telling the ref that lol
In the intro first move is a travel, its just not called. You have to leave the ground off 2 foot jump otherwise you've switched pivot. Your back foot leaves the ground before your front foot.
Woooooow pure genius becux u never established a pivot
The is the Dreams footwork! He has video teaching Lebron
A lot of casuals here fail to understand that referees are very familiar with pivot foot establishment. If you cannot grasp the concept of a jumpstop, this move will never make sense to you....and you most definitely don't have a post game and footwork.
THIS MOVE CAME FROM HAKEEM OLAJUWON
Oh shit he talked about the pivot foot when I went to watch the rest of the video 😂😂
The first video I can see that it is a travel because I see the pivot foot is OFF the ground like it’s jumping to reposition
Good Kobe shout out!
Even refs don't know what a travel is anymore
Bruh I learned that move on my own watching basketball alot I always say jump into your pivot plp thought I was traveling but I hadn't established a pivot yet this move was O P.
2nd not a travel 1st one is
But after shimmy you do only can hop forward with both legs leaving ground at same time for a lay up
Finally, clarification!
It seems like his key focus is on the Shemy move, because at around 14 secs and about 24secs into the video you can actually use another step onto a spin move layup.. when you pick up your dribble your allowed two steps
That girl in Colorado witnessed this move first hand in her bunghole
The first one bounced off one foot. So he traveled
Cant wait to do this i know theres people going to be ready to call a travel
That first move is a travel tho. Not because you can’t do it, but because this guy didn’t execute it correctly.
Pay attention to his steps as he dribbles. He’s trying to abuse the gather step rule into a jump stop which is plausible. Except when you take two steps after dribbling and before gathering, that means you’re taking 2 “gather steps” which isn’t a thing, you only get one.
Yeah I ain’t explaining this to people turning to throw hands at the park
This would be me trying to explain how it’s not a travel to the ref
Start of the video, you pivot on your left foot, then raise that and pivot on your right, aka. travelling...
Ok Kobe. I just learned this today
"TRAVEL"
They calling that a travel everytime and it is , when you took your layup you took a 3rd step, no matter what ...And the kobe break down had nothing to do with up and under and stepping into a layup, kobe and mike faded away or took the jump shot with that kind of gather!
Never took a 3rd step, first. Second they don’t call this a travel. Kyrie does it all the time and hasn’t ever been called. This is a profession players move. A lot of ppl execute this in their own ways every game. I have never seen it called a travel.
I look at Jayson Tatums game! He does a lot of moves like this! And he trained and watched tons of film from Kobe so everything I am learning is coming from the same path
Doesn't matter if the ref thinks otherwise, that move looks mad sus
But when you actually lay it up, you need to use your not pivot foot to power yourself in the air so you gotta pick up your pivot. I'm not trying to be a smartass but that seems like a travel.
Yea it’s called the Dream Shake
So in other words kobe saw the rulebook and found a loophole technically allowing him to break a rule without actually breaking it for an advantage.
Rest in Peace to the Legend
Supposedly learned from olujawon
This is the basis of the Dream Shake. Kobe learned this from Hakeem.
What he forgot to say is after you jump stop which ever foot you decide to spin off of when you jump to do your lay up you have to jump off of both feet, you cannot stop thru and jump off your none pivot foot or it is in fact a travel.
He learned it from dream
It’s all in the jump-stop...
He mentioned kobe but actually kobe learned that move from Michael jordan 💯r.i.p to the Black Mamba
Completely traveling
Kyrie be fucking boys up with this move
Dang the detail is crazy
Yeah it's not a travel it's a expedition
definitely a travel
I tried this in a high school game and the refs picked up on it after the second time Lmaoo they stopped calling when I did the move
My footwork use to be crazy & refs would call me fa travels because dey ain’t know shit about da game 🤦🏾♂️ I use to get called for travels every damn game for shit dat wasn’t no travel
Actually it is because your left foot hit slightly earlier than your right foot.