Restoration Begins on 34058 Sir Frederick Pile Southern Locomotives Ltd
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Ex Barry Woodham Brothers scrapyard wreck has been successfully transported to Southern Locomotives Limited in Kent for its restoration. Watch as 34058 Sir Frederick Pile an Oliver Bulleid designed Battle of Britain Class steam locomotive begins its journey back to life as a working memorial to those that served in the armed forces during the Battle of Britain in 1940.
Southern Locomotives Limited along with the Friends of Sir Frederick Pile group aim to have to have this loco in steam pulling trains in a few short years.
Southern Locomotives can only do this with continued support and fund raising.
If you would like to help click the link below to visit the website
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Wow! This thing has been sitting around since 1965?! And now you're going to restore it? Incredible!
That's a massive undertaking but well done to those willing to take it on.
Good to see some of of the Red Oxide I applied while in the Alresford headshunt has made it onto the video :)
The work you done will make our job easier and has helped Fred keep some dignity and public interest.
Great to see another steam restoration getting started. If it's possible, you guys or someone else should save 34073 Squadron
249 Squadron?
@@mattaustin2128 Correct
Definitely a Merlin engine. What a soundtrack
I’m looking forward to loads of future videos showing how you dismantle and rebuild this locomotive .
I love the way the two younger chaps in the photo, have reduced the average age down to around 70!.? I’m 76; so
I’m not taking the P! It’s the same in so many restoration projects that the requisite knowledge, expertise and desire tends to rest with the old guard eh? Come on all you youngsters, else who’s going to run and maintain this beautiful old yesteryear history for us all!? Cheers and good luck with it all!
You're so right Nigel. One of the aims of this channel is to attract new blood to the heritage railway scene. We all seem to keep getting older. We need to pass on the knowledge, skills and enthusiasm to newer generations.
I knew Sir Frederick he lived in Cottered near Buntingford where he died
Hi John. We'd definitely like to know more. Could you contact us through the Web site www.southern-locomotives.co.uk
Many thanks
It a spitfire. We get them overhead ever summer. I love living in Kent.
I hope we find more classes of southern locomotives to restore.
I didn't know these were 3 cylindered. Did BR adopt the design?
BR carried on building them to the same design.
Please please please restore it to how Oliver Bulleid intended it to be and not just renovate it in butchered Jarvis form!
We have 2 unrebuilt Bulleids (257 Squadron and Manston) already restored and in steam to enjoy.
@@railwaymaniacs7392 Manston looking extremely shabby and tatty, it must be said... but with 34010, 34028, 34053 and now 34058 all on your books, and 34058 missing all components, it's an opportunity to right the wrong BR and Jarvis committed.
Some, including me, would say the revisions created an improved and better looking loco! Each to their own I guess.
@@richardhands8932 better looking is subjective. Improved? Objectively, no.
@richardharrold9736 34058 is missing parts but Mike Vout (this loco's saviour) over years purchased many missing parts in preparation for this restoration. It's a shame he can't see his dream come true.😢
Great video and Well done to all involved , Best wishes Graham
Thanks Graham. 😊
Any chance of an online store for some of that merch?
A merch store is in the pipeline!!
It’s all about the boiler
You're not wrong!
hi,i reckon thats going to cost about two million or more pounds to get going.most of the parts to be made,, given the choice i would take on a Jinty if i was young enough now,
A number of expensive parts for this loco were already acquired by its previous owner Mr Mike Vout, who we thank for rescuing it from Barry Scrapyard.
I can't wait to see her run in a few years!
I thought I remembered this loco at the Avon valley railway sitting in the siding 18 years ago, it would look amazing once restored
It's time to bring back its shine and get it back into steam!
At last
What an exciting project. Also how marvellous to see a Spitfire, Alan a B of B veteran and a B of B pacific locomotive all on one video.
Thanks for watching John.
We have some exciting B of B inspired projects in the pipeline 🙂
just how much of what's there will have to be dismantled?
Hi Kathryn. We will be dismantling it down to its bare bones. Every part will have to be cleaned, de-rusted, and checked before even thinking of using it again.
@@railwaymaniacs7392 oo, ill make sure i tune in for that. :D
It’s an opportunity to build a modern loco variation on an old theme. Oil firing, roller bearings and air/dual braking. Modern electric lights. Modernised controls. Dare to be different.
To re engineer parts and systems that have been proved in service is a real minefield. The additional time, costs of design, testing and approval can be extremely high with no guarantee of success. We tend to stick with what we know and not take the risk.
@@railwaymaniacs7392 By the time you finish it, coal will be prohibitively expensive, if not unavailable. The heritage movement in America will sell you a kit of parts for oil burning, so that is all taken care of, testing wise. Electric lights are another kit of parts easily available. Look forward, not back!
It would make for an exciting project. Maybe in the future probably near future we may have to look into how things need to change.
The Bulleid Pacifics all have electric lights as they were built with a steam powered dynamo .
@@railwaymaniacs7392 You get my drift. I think it’s a great starting point to look into the future. Attract young people into the railway heritage world. There are plenty of Bulleids kicking about in original condition. So why not use one as a basis for some different thinking.
@@22pcirishthey had a stones generator and electric lights all round
My parents live near avon valley railway and I grew up there, I remember this being there when I was a kid and my dad would walk me around the yard looking at everything. I would marvel at the size of this loco, longing to see it working so this is great to see.
It's nice to hear of stories like this as it reminds us of why we do what we do. We want people to enjoy seeing these wonderful machines working away helping to earn their keep and also help get new generations of kids interested in railways and engineering.
Progress on the restoration of this loco is rapid and another video of its progress should be released soon. Don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss it.Keep an eye out for it 🙂🙂
@@railwaymaniacs7392 Thanks already subscribed and looking forward to the next video
I went to Woodhams scrapyard in Barry in about 1975. There were loads of steam locos there at that time. especially several 0-6-2 GWR tank locos which looked almost complete. I read that every single loco at Barry got restored. I don't know if that's true but it would be nice to believe.
Saved, not all restored. A small number weren't so lucky and did indeed get cut up at Woodhams.
Our very own Merchant Navy Class loco Brocklebank Line was about to get cut up the next day but was saved when a large number of wagons arrived to be dispatched instead.
@@railwaymaniacs7392 wasent ottery st Mary scrapped at barrry
When Woodhams ran out of trucks to cut up they would cut up a loco instead so some didn't survive😢 our Merchant Navy Class Brocklebank Line was one day away from being cut up at one point!
@@railwaymaniacs7392 yes 9f 92085 was cut up with a large prarie yes merchant navey brocklebank line was the next to be cut but thankfully more waggons entered the yard
Excellent news getting the loco back to working order how long do you think it will take to get back running
We are really building up a good head of steam with our restorations, with our increasing number of enthusiastic volunteers and our highly skilled staff we are making a lot of progress BUT....we have a number of boilers that require overhaul by specialists that are declining in number and require a LOT of money to repair. Many thanks for watching and taking an interest 😊
Amazing to think we have acquired yet another Bulleid Pacific.
As Jim Bowen used to say...
"You can't beat a bit of Bully!"
Great video, love the detail on the loco.
Thanks
Will 34058 Sir Frederick Pile be mainline certified after being restored from scrapyard condition?
Hopefully. It would be good to see it stretch it legs.
Will 35025 Brocklebank Line be mainline certified after being restored to working order?
Possibly.
I remember some years ago reading about a Fireman on Bullied Pacific’s. Apparently Bullied Pacific’s were difficult to fire. They had a supervisor on the footplate. The Supervisor asked the fireman is there anything that you would like to see on the footplate.That would help ? He replied,Yes, bloody Bullied.
Bulleid boilers were known to make steam very well. Maybe that particular loco wasn't in the best of health at that particular time so giving the fireman a hard time. The unrebuilts had their problems at the time but the boiler wasn't one of them though.
that was the fireman interviewed after firing on a Leader test run. Not a pacific. Makes more sense as he only had a window and no escape from the heat.
Astonishing that ex-Woodhams locos are still being restored from Barry condition. Woodhams stopped taking locos in 1965.
Woodham continued taking steam locos after 1965, throughout 1966&1967 with the final consignment of steam locos 48151/305,61264,76077/9/80/4 & 92212 arriving in September 1968 the same month the first loco 43924 departed for preservation
Very good.
Thanks!
How many bullied pacifics do you now have
Currently we have 3 in steam. Eddystone, Manston and 257 Squadron.
1 under overhaul, Sir Keith Park.
3 under restoration, Brocklebank Line, Sidmouth and Sir Frederick Pile.
You can see all our locos on our Before and After video "Who does this"
@@railwaymaniacs7392 do you find mutch difference between the unrebuilt and the rebuilt becuse bullieds chain driven valve gear whas one of the engines achillies heal
Hi James. Good question...we'll answer that in an upcoming video!
Great locomotive even though I’m a LMS man as I live in Manchester 😊 But as all steam engines of this age are in need of lots of hard work 😮 But in a typical British way she’ll get done ✅
Great work
Thank you so much 😀
Great news. Will it be converted to a "rebuilt" without the cladding?
It is a rebuilt. So will look the same as Sir Keith Park 34053.
Fantastic. I think they look better, purely because you can see everything.@@railwaymaniacs7392
@@railwaymaniacs7392 Altering the BR Walshaerts gear to Bulleid's enclosed chain-driven would be a mammoth task.
It will be interesting to see the chain drive of the middle cylinder.
It's not got chain driven valve gear, it's a rebuild.
@@simonwass6315 Oh that’s interesting. Does that give it the double chimney?
@@glynluff2595 it hasn't got a double chimney, it's a multi jet lemaitre chimney - gives them a very soft chaffing sound
@@simonwass6315 Ah! I shall have to dig out my book on Bullied and catch up again!