Unseen 1967 Dalek Home Movie Discovery! Viewer Film Analysed
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With huge thanks to Andrew Kirwan who unearthed a hitherto unknown clip of a Dalek from the 1960s. Where does it fit in the Dalek timeline and where was the footage taken? We investigate!
"We got rid of Hitler, so I think we can handle one stupid Dalek" Thats gotta be used in the actual show at some point, it's such a cool line xD
They didn't really get rid of him, just sort of shoved him in the closet
Most likely by some 3rd doctor unit grunt that runs at the dalek, shoots at it, bullets don't work, shocked Pikachu face, then promptly exterminated.
Must have been Wilf !
5:20 What an absolute king. Wish he was around today; he could help us get rid of Birmingham.
@@tortysoft RIP
The Blue Peter picture you show was one I asked Peter Purves to sign at an event at the Quad in Derby. He said that he didn't have that picture in his own archive and commented on how awful the jumper was he was wearing and that his clothes taste had improved since 🙂
I later gave him another copy of the photo for his own collection.
Always blown away by the amount of detailed research that goes into these videos. Such an utter joy to watch.
Thank you Neil.
Please do more of these! Maybe tell us the history of Doctor Who's original Tardis set, and what happened to each version!
Would love that! The console history and its functions have always fascinated me.
We may do that possibly down the line a bit…
@@Dalek6388 Alright, what here's another idea, what ever that led to the cybermen's creations? As well as the og costumes and props?
@@e-convoy1783 I'd rather know what happened to the Roboman helmets.
@@frankshailes3205 I would also like to know as well...
Will I ever need to know ANY of this information? No.
Did I still just sit through this entire video? Yes.
Thanks :) I'm not sure as a kid that I ever noticed one Dalek from another at any point in the history of the show, but the kid in me (who created a card-filing system to catalogue every episode, season, companion, Doctor, actor, writer, you get the idea) does love that other people had such keen interest.
I love seeing non-show footage of 60s Daleks and Who monsters in general, especially when they're just out walking along the streets. Another fantastic video as always!
Thanks!
I personally think this behind the scenes history of the Daleks is absolutely fascinating, showing us ( the Dr. Who audience at large ) all those interesting little bits and pieces that under normal watching conditions, none of us would ever notice. Thankyou, who would have guessed all these years later they could still generate such interest?
The gold Dalek from 'Day of the Daleks' also appeared in Episode 6 of 'Frontier in Space.'
This is, quite possibly, the most fascinating episode ever. And this is the same show that showed new photos of Dalek’s Master Plan in its first episode.
To think that, even with all the research, we can just FIND a brand new Dalek publicity stunt out of nowhere…
Glad you enjoyed it!
It’s so awesome how much you can learn from a few minutes of footage, your mix of history and Daleks is so cool and inspiring!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love the research, love the presentation, magic! As an 8 year old in 1967 I thank you for the nostalgia.
Thank you!
these are THE highlight of my day anytime they are posted. absolute top tier content. thanks for all the hard work of everyone behind the scenes keeping this history alive!
also the idea of a dalek leaving little footsteps in the rain is fantastic haha
Thank you!
The Trogs! With a Dalek! Wild Thing was one of my favorite songs without knowing until years later who recorded it and any monster with a toilet plunger arm has to be a winner. Thank you for the great content. Danni Derpy is absolutely right.
Imagine just asking the BBC to borrow one of their expensive Dalek props for a car boot or something... and they say yes! You'd never get away with that nowadays
Alas that is a sad reflection on the deterioration of humanity.
Payments??
This is a criminally unsubscribed channel, the detail in these videos are always top notch.
Thank you!
Wow! sitting here late at night in the U.S . watching this video thinking what would the world do without the British! Thanks so much 🙏👍 love this old stuff 💞
Arguably the best series on RUclips. Absolutely love the amount of detail and the monotone voice 😊
Thank you!
There's something charmingly British (or Pythonesque) about inviting fictional killer robots to a church fundraiser.
Really loved that. Please keep these coming. Narration is superb!
Thank you!
All these years later & it still breaks my heart to see a Dalek prop in a skip!!! Unbelievable
You must have a very strange life if the sight of a prop being thrown in the bin actually breaks you heart
@@michaelleacy attention seeking kids award for you
This is brilliant, sweet, glorious, well researched and a little bit crazy. I love it so much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I bought a piece of Dalek 7 from Reliquary, a dream come true, love you videos please continue
Such detail and so clearly and accessibly presented as always.
It actually amazes me how long many of these props seem to have been in active use for if they were still using many of the original ones from the early shows in Remembrance of the Daleks.
Excellent video as always guys! It's nice that the newly discovered footage has given us more of an idea what happened to one of these dalek props. Awesome stuff 🙂
Given how many tragic tales that exist about the fates of some Daleks, it's nice to hear a story that's almost a 'Little Dalek That Could' kind of thing.
i would like to think that the Dalek parts that were in the skip got rescued by someone.
my late father worked as a skip lorry driver and would salvage anything of interest he could, much to my mum's dismay.
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If only they were missing episode film cans...
I shouldn't worry about the upper sections of the Daleks on the skip. They weren't going anywhere.
Not a fan of Doctor Who at all, but totally blown away by the knowledge and research gone into the making of this video. There must be people all over the country with intrinsic knowledge like this. Very well described indeed.
Thank you Neil
Great video! Love the cine footage.
I really liked the part at: 14:17 where you put a year label stamp on the prop. Almost cataloging it. Would like to see more of that for the other props. Gives me good OCD Vibes. 😁
I cannot tell you how much I LOVE your channel! All of this is just fascinating and entertaining. True Pop Culture History at a level of granularity one would have thought impossible!
Thank you Adam. That’s great to hear!
It's concerning how wrecked these dalek props get
Superb I’m going to send you photos on Wednesday from my collection it’s the best on the net this
Thank you John! Look forward to seeing them!
I love this channel. It takes everyone back in time.
I have had tea at that cafe many times over the years, never realised a Dalek vivited the site.
Many thanks for the nostalgic dalek footage! I was born in '67 and happen to like vintage sci-fi. Interesting to see the BBC daleks on a publicity stunt, be it a charity or an expo. Must've been fun for the dalek operators, schoolchildren, and the Troggs--this was dalekmania in the late 60s! That's something seldom seen nowadays. 🚀🚀🌌🌠
This was so lovely! I have a weird question though, all the little scuffs and damage they accumulated - was that from being on set or was it from these public appearances? They seem to be treat quite roughly in some of this footage!
Likely both.
Bit if both really. There were patched up but were soon damaged again.
The props were knocked about both in the studio and while being transported. In fact, one of the ways we can identify one particular prop over another is by looking for known damage or repair. It was the same with the TARDIS, which often appeared on screen with considerable damage or poor repair to the prop.
I was on a school photography trip to Oxford recently and I walked past ship street and recognised it from this video! I tried to explain the significance of this street to my friends but they didn’t quite get it 😂
I really enjoyed that! Amazing attention to detail. 👍
Great little bit of history.
On a sidenote,i met Peter Staples,The Troggs bass player and his wife on a train from Lisbon to Paris in 1982,in the same compartment i met Sheila from Canada who kept me in Paris for 3 days,if you read this Peter,thanks for the memories and those beers you got me!,and yes,i did sing for my supper.....I went on to become a repeat witness to UFOs in the 40 years in between,during my research i found out Peter had a UFO encounter with Reg Presley,i wish i had know this at the time.
That was bloody fantastic. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow, the color was so vibrant on that cine film! Great episode
Absolute Splendid Video... My Thanks to Andrew for letting us enjoy part of our past that otherwise just was in our memories .. bur now lives AGAIN!
Pure gold. Another great video. Look forward to these so much. Great work guys, as always.
Thanks Bill!
Thanks Andrew!
What a superlative video, well done!! When you mentioned the Tacloneston Transmitter Open Day near Norwich, it brought back memories of playing inside a Dalek on the Jenny Lind ward of the old Norfolk and Norwich hospital around 1978 - I was almost 11 years old. Not sure why there was a Dalek there, and no idea if it was an actual prop or a life-size model, but you could certainly get in, sit, articulate the dome, arms and eye stalk, and move it around. Great memories...
I have a feeling I’ve heard that story before. Possibly one of Terry Nation’s Daleks made it there?
@@Dalek6388 Oh wow, that would have been awesome!! If I remember correctly it was possibly black in colour. I think I'll pop something on my social media page and see if it jogs any memories...😁
Wonderful
Always enjoy your channel your indepth research and attention to detail is never missed ...superb 👍👍👍
Thank you!
I hope you do more of these videos there brilliant.
More to come!
This is Brilliant History. Well done
Thank you!
Another fantastic video! And I loved the Longstanton Spice Museum email from Tim gag, proper belly laugh :) Superb work gents, thanks so much!
Thank you!
Can anyone explain why the Daleks in the 70's had a kind of oval plate in the centre of the shoulders? What was it supposed to be for? It's bugged me for years!!
Great video again!
It’s one of those grey ideas that’s never been solved as yet. There is a possible connection to the Out of the Unknown appearance in the late 70s but until images or footage of that appears we can’t be sure.
@@Dalek6388 Thanks for that. It just showed up in the Pertwee era and carried through to Mcoy's Remembrence of the Daleks., except the Imperials were a kind of hexagon shape.
Another fantastic, informative video - thank you! As someone who was captivated by the Daleks when they first appeared (I was 8 at the time) it amazes me just how much info about them is still to be learned if you know where to look! And, obviously, that's where your detective work shines - great work! It's always a pleasure when a new 63-88 video comes along. Oh, by the way, I see one of our Norfolk place names caught you out. There's plenty like that around here whose spelling bears little resemblance to how they are actually pronounced! 😁 - Tacolneston is actually pronounced more like "Tacklestone" - at least you didn't have to "tackle" Wymondham (Windham) or Happisburgh (Hazebro)!
Thank you for the kind words and putting us straight on the pronunciation! I get similar problems with names in the West Country!
Another fascinating video. Thanks :)
Thanks!
I never realized Daleks were such bodyswappers.
This guy is literally a detective
It makes you wonder just how easy it was to hire out an actual BBC Dalek! Kudos to the church for thinking of it, but it would never have even occurred to me that one could ask. Maybe they knew someone in charge of the Daleks?
They appeared at lots of events so it must have been relatively easy.
@@Dalek6388 I remember going to a carnival or something similar at Southall around 1966 - they had a flat-back lorry with a Dalek mounted on the front of the cab while a Zarbi and the console of the Tardis were also on the back of it. I think I have some very bad photos of both of those somewhere.
@@dvdvnr There's some cine footage of it on one of the DVDs I think. I've definitely seen colour stills from it. It was a Shawcraft float, they had a banner on it. There's a venom grub too, and the Dalek radio communicator form The Chase.
@@frankshailes3205 Thanks Frank. Yes, I seem to remember seeing the cine footage somewhere and thinking "I was there!" as well as "That puts my crummy photos to shame!" 😅
The dalek was probably a parishioner, doing its volunteer work for its church.
Does anyone have any memory of a Dalek in Durham?
I was in Durham’s Dryburn Hospital on the children’s ward in 1977 (the week of Saturday February 26th as the first episode of Talons of Weng Chiang aired and a visiting patent switched to ITV after 5 minutes). In the playroom/library conservatory of the ward was a full sized Dalek. It had seen better days, being chipped and scratched. It had wiring to the ear lights. At the time I thought it couldn’t have been a real prop as why was it abandoned in a hospital, but it was too well made to be a amateur model. That week had a mini Doctor Who exhibition in the hospital too. It was a welcome but surreal experience as I recovered from an operation aged 6. I can’t remember the colour scheme of the Dalek, I think a light silver with black hemispheres, different from my silver/blue Palitoy Talking Dalek (but the memory cheats). Later that year my dad made me a Dalek costume for the Silver Jubilee in Sherburn Village, Durham (it was white with red hemispheres, blue neck rings). I should have won the fancy dress competition easily but it frightened some of the smaller children so I was disqualified.
Very interesting. Not one I’ve heard of before but it was possibly one of Terry Nation’s Daleks. They were battered by that point.
This is so fascinating, thanks to all who helped make it happen!
We are pleased you enjoyed it!
Fantastic 👌🏽
Excellent footage, research and presentation. Thank you!
Thanks!
Quality and detailed research, not to mention presentation. Being from Norfolk and an electrical engineer, a slight correction in the pronunciation of Tacolneston, pronounced Tackleston.
Thank you! Yeah, a few people have pulled us up on the pronunciation! 😂
Great to see the Dalek at St Giles in Oxford. I came to Oxford when i was 5 in 77 and spooky worked in a shop right next to the church in the the footage in the 90's (Boswells) so thank you
Brilliant.
Fascinating stuff !
Such a amazing and a wonderful piece of history, thanks to the man in question, thank you so much, I love to see more apperances of my fav foes, heres that I hope im not the only one wishing there is media out there of some public apperances of 80s Daleks easpecially the Imperials, necros and SWD.... it looks to be a maybe... by the chances of these tape recordings, so who knows there maybe a camera in storage with some that will be unvailed soon .... fingers crossed
Lovely work as always and hopefully more to come I hope....
Cameron
Fingers crossed for more hidden gems to come!
Awesome video (as usual)!
Thank you!
Love these! I watched the intro 3 times, just cause I loved it so much!
Thanks!
What an awesome find!
Do we know if the BBC differentiated the upper and lower sections for these appearances, or did they just select the nearest parts and ship them out?
It’s a mixed bag. They seem to remain fairly consistent in pairings when filming actual episodes, but get swapped around quite a bit on publicity runs.
It seems initially they were marked to keep them together but after a while it became a bit of a free for all! Check out our main site to see some of the combinations
@@Dalek6388 Thanks, I will! 😁
that was the year I was born and grew up fearing the terrifying creature. there was always a pillow at the back of the sofa. thanks for a dip in the past.
As a child i remember the Dalek at the St.Giles Fair Oxford.
Wow that’s great! I hope the footage brought back some good memories!
Amazing details as always, wonderful stuff
Thank you!
Love this kind of stuff. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
How about that scene where the Doctor, having blocked the only khazi in the Tardis, has to enlist the aid of a Dalek with its plunger thing to unblock it... or have I imagined that bit?
😂
that was an awesome video
Thank you! We’re glad you enjoy it!
How I wish 63 had been the year of my birth, when classic Dr Who started on tv in monochrome with Bill Hartnell and ran a full 26 years on BBC1 before it was axed.
Wonderful, detailed and meticulous Who history as ever, cheers guys, always a pleasure.
Thank you!
I wish I was old enough to have seen these old props in person =(
Wow, that is amazing
Love your videos, always pleased to see a new one... But have a minor suggestion- the background music was a bit loud and distracting. Maybe bring the volume down in future?
Ok, thanks for the suggestion. It tricky to gauge how to loud to do it as so many people have different systems to play through. I didn’t notice any issue on my hi-fi at home but it’s something to think about.
That, s why Star Wars was so hugely succesful. Imagine that R2 was looked like that coffee tin .
That was quite sweet!
It’s amazing to me how often the BBC loaned out actual Dalek props for very minor local fundraising events.
Cool. This is like archaeology, the past being painstakingly reassembled from bits and pieces. What else is there possibly to know?
Lots of areas we’d love to uncover still! 😂
What a lovely piece of cine footage! The children's reactions are fantastic!
(I do have to be a typical pedantic fan and mention that it's "Tackle-stn" rather than "Tackle-neston", though!)
Thanks Paul! Yeah it’s been noted before! 😂
How did you stabilize the cine film frames to keep the subject centered (at the 8 minute mark, for example)? Another terrific video!
It’s done in Adobe After Effects
Wow - and I thought I was a nerd!😊
If only Shawcraft or someone at the Beeb had put some markings inside the parts that formed the Daleks, the skirt of Dalek 2 would not have been placed under the dome of Dalek 7 and variety of variation thereof, you know what I mean, I can't remember what book it was, it may have been Doctor Who the Sixties, which had a lovely behind the scenes pic of a squad of Daleks waiting on the floor, before being taken to the location, and domes and skirts were probably mixed up then, because once the operator got out, no one could recall which two pieces were used and that's why switches occurred. But you know that.
They did in 1963. When the four original props were delivered to Lime Grove studios from Shawcraft, the BBC marked them on the back with horizontal lines. So one line for Dalek number one, two lines for Dalek number two and so on. The black marks were at the back between the collars and also at the top of the skirt (and can be seen in some photos) so special effects could match the correct two halves back together. Later on it seemed like they weren't so bothered.
Oh fuck, I wasn't expecting to see my hometown mentioned in one of these! That was a shock. Had no idea Maldon had ever had an event where a Dalek turned up :u
GR8 vid, as usual! ... Jon Pertwee famously said that the Daleks were made from an Egg Whisk, a Sink Plunger, and Tennis Balls, and that they were "Ridiculous!" ... I started watching Doctor Who in 1971, with "Mind Of Evil" (the Keller Machine still creeps me out!) and I'm disappointed that Pertwee was so dismissive of the GREATEST TV VILLAIN IN HISTORY! ... Yes, on paper, the Daleks are indeed "ridiculous," but it didn't stop them being hugely popular for 59 years and counting! ... Long live the Daleks! ... S.O.S. "Sons Of Skaro!"
EDIT: I'd also like to add, when I first encountered an ACTUAL DALEK, at the Blackpool Doctor Who Exhibition in 1974 (aged 11), I nearly shat myself! ... Kids burst into tears! ... Happy days!
I walk past that courtyard all the time during term. I’m gunna have to go lick the ground there or something
I haven't seen a Yeti since they were on Dr Who in the 60s until I watched this fascinating film. Yetis freaked me out far more than Daleks. Big hairy bastards.
Totally fabulous, thanks
Thank you!
Does anyone know who and why the black eye dot was added to the props following Evil of the Daleks? Its the great mystery for me and have never understood the logic
There are some theories but nothing concrete. One suggests it was to show which were the human Daleks but the telesnaps seem to disprove that. Another theory is that it was to hide small burn marks on the lens from the internal bulb. That seems unlikely to me as there are pupils of different sizes including one tiny dot. If the footage ever turns up it may make it clearer?
@@Dalek6388 And here silly me always presumed it had something to do with moving to colour TV in 1972...!
Wicked stuff as ever. It`s amazing how many Daleks or their parts just disappeared without trace over the years. Landfill? Someone`s shed? They`re out there somewhere.
Let’s hope they are!
Or a pond in Hampshire!
@@frankshailes3205 Do you mean that hoax "find" of years ago?
@@frankshailes3205 that one was a fake. Or a fanbuild at least
Standard 8 film is a lovely gauge. Scissors and glue to edit. I will pretend I did not hear that.
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Really interesting video! Love a bit of archive home film…
Couldn’t hear the narration over the music, though… 😢
We will look into that for future videos
Wow...most interesting!
Fab!
Have you done a timeline of when props were created and destroyed yet?
Have a look over in our main website - dalek6388.co.uk
I love the title music from these videos. It reminds me of the music from Death To The Daleks, but is it just a rearrangement or a new composition?
Spot on! And arranged by the amazing Graeme Allen for us!