*"It amazes me that Volition was self-aware enough to write Nahualli confused by how dumb these characters are, yet somehow not self-aware enough to realize how dumb these characters are and make changes."* Gold star for you, Dartigan.⭐
They probably dismissed it as "Boomers don't get us, man. They just don't understand being sociopathic murderers with a heart of gold and social justice minded." That, or just a mix of self aware writers and woke writers. Either way, this is one of the worst video games I've ever seen. Even Cyberpunk was better than this cause it was a new IP. But what they did to my favorite franchise is like having an ex wife who forced your youngest son to become a woke criminal out of spite to you.
@@MarvinPowell1 let's not forget that violation also refused to refund the game until it was impossible to actually get a refund because they didn't want the bad publicity form the failure the game was
he never even expressed interest in them after the "team building" he seemed amused by the day but that was it, it just comes out of nowhere and also what was his plan, "i kidnap them, we hang out.... now what?" At least he could have gone with the cliche "with you out of the way I will step into the leading role of the saints, and if your friends don't want to work for me, let's just say I have no problem cutting them out." I played through this game and it was rough and fell VERY SHORT of any of the other games in all regards
The plot bends over to make him like them when he clearly had no desire to hang with them. But because the guys are so awesome and cool, he becomes obsessed with keeping them.
He was the only good character in the whole game he was pretty much everyone who was playing this game trying to figure out why we doing this team bonding crap when we should be planning on how we doing the heist what will we need etc instead fuck that hey look free hover bikes we can because convenient
Yeah beacuse if you dont like something/someone in todays World, you are somethingphobic. Its just pathetic that devs dont give a fuck now, they dont listen to the fans, they just pandering to the 1%.
The fact that they actually made this, thought anyone would like it, thought these Blue Checkmarks would immediately be beloved by the public, heard the backlash in August 2021, ignored it and then attacked the fans, had AN ENTIRE YEAR to course-correct the game (which they even could've done in secret and pretended it was the original plan all along), and still released it as is, says all you need to know about why Volition should immediately be shut down and why no one will be sad about it.
They didn't do that though, they stated how no matter what route they went, there will be people who were gonna hate it. The game is fun as fuck even if the story has its bad moments.
It feels like they’re coping and projecting whenever they do it too. Like they’re trying to tell other people that they aren’t bothered by the criticism when they are entirely bothered by it. Hence why they make outdated top text bottom text memes saying that haters are gonna hate
The depression segment becomes 10x dumber when you realize getting fired didn't actually stop the Boss from robbing stores, performing side-hustle, killing other gang members, and pretty much everything else you can do at the beginning of the game while employed. Being depressed after getting fired only works if you don't have an alternative source of income. The illogical decisions that are made in this game are immense.
I still can't get over the fact that the devs wanted these characters to be relatable and "the kind of people you'd want to invite into your home." Are they aware that these guys are suppose to be members of a gang... that KILL AND ROB PEOPLE.
I wouldn’t be surprised if their way of thinking is moral good = bad and moral bad = good. We live in a day and age where criminals are loved and innocent people are hated.
We live in an age where lies are packaged as "truth" even down to not knowing what a "woman" is and putting biological men in women's sports, and the truth is dismissed as a lie, such as the pandemic coming from a gain-of-research lab in Wuhan. The old crew I WOULD invite into my home because they're genuine and true to who they are. And by the third game onward, are intentionally pushed as anti-heroes (or "puckish rogues"). These people though? Are inconsistent walking contradictions who are also liars ("good at what they do, good people" etc). Dartigan is right in that they're perfect Far Cry villains; misguided narcissists who believe they're the "good guys" despite what their actions actually say about them. They're perfect social justice warriors. But in short, you could actually TRUST the likes of the old Boss, Pierce, Shaundi, Gat, and Kinzie. There's nothing trustworthy or likeable about this new gang; especially Kevin. He's literally the worst traits of everything about Zoomers nowadays.
Yeah it was when the devs started making statements like that I knew this game would be a pass for me. The Saints In every game are ultra-violent criminals with a total disregard for human life, who the hell looks at a group like that and thinks “lovable outcasts”?
To be fair, the og saint's I would invite into my home after I found out they were gang members. There is not 1 excuse not to have a brew and a blunt with that crew. Everyone was well thought out and had their own personality strengths despite being a gang member. Gat was a hilarious mess even though he was a psycho. I would go to a comedy club with that man. This team just makes me want to continue walking down the street if I hear them speak or pass them a dollar towards their rent out of sympathy for their dumb broke asses.
Main Character: I have to pay my student loans. Me: But you're a street gang; which means you're criminals. Which means student loans shouldn't even be a concern.
Most of the money you would be getting as a gang member wouldn't be taxable, since, you know, it comes from theft or illicit dealing, therefore none of it would be being taken away to pay of student loans.
@@brandonlyon730 Because Al Capone used a business as a cover, and he was lying about his income for it. They took that angle because they figured since he was already committing crimes he was probably committing more
well intentionally seriously a heist crew of 5 one of which isn't the leader and sits on his ass at home and the guy who saves the leader gets one gold bar
Yeah bruh let the players be evil for once, i thought they would do that for the sucide squad game but they just made the justice league evil in that game
I mean you werent a bad person in the other Saints games either excepts Saints Row 2 when your the most psycho mother fucker ever. The other ones always had you be the better of the options.
When I think of Saints Row, I always think back the monster truck scene from 2 with Maero. It shows how absolutely horrible a person the boss is, and how evil and vindictive they are. It's a fantastic bit that illustrates you as a villain protagonist, because YOU ARE. There are just worse people than you out there, sure, but the Saints don't try to moralize and make what they're doing seem right, it's just what they want to do for their own gain. You're surrounded by murderers, drug dealers, and thieves at all times; you're not the good guy, and that was A GOOD THING. This weird moralizing they throw in the reboot about sturggling young adults and "fighting the system" or what-have-you doesn't endear me to the characters; it makes me dislike them because they're fooling themselves. At least the Saints used to know they were fucked up people.
The brotherhood story line is one of my favorites to think about. Because the Brotherhood are the same as the Saints in a way, they are what the saints would've become had the playa not gone into a coma. And really it shows how petty the playa is. They hurt maero and targeted the brotherhood at first because of an offer of a small cut which makes sense given the saints don't have the pull they once had, it doesn't benefit them to give them a bigger cut. Which the saints would've done if it was some other upstart gang looking to make a name for themselves. Then they retaliated, we lost Carlos, they lost jessie, then more members and their weapons, then Matt, and so on. All over the cut offered to what was an obsolete gang.
When I think about Saints Row, I think about the ridiculously fun missions and all the crazyness and gameplay freedom you get compared to GTA. The reason is because SR3 was my first one. I bought it because it looked cool and had hype behind it, and I was pleased with what I played despite not knowing the story of the characters in it. I found out about their backstories much later
The saints may not be good people, but they HAD personality and relatability on a deep level. Politics isn't deep. Everyone with a a pulse has an opinion on it and you can find several thousand people with the exact same thought process. When it comes to values, character and personality, people may be the same in some ways, but the differences out weight the similarities and that's why the OG crew connected with me personally. It highlighted my uniqueness and individuality as a person. Just like it did others.
Atleast in the original 4 games they actually gave a reason why the saints became much more friendly and passive over the years, after SR2 they basically got through all the rough and bloody growing pains of an empire, once they stood ontop they focused on appealing to the public more than brute force to keep control, they already had control and a huge following by the end of 2. They fell off a bit during 3 after losing alot of clout and power and going in exile to steelport, but by then, due to their long lasting fame, they had the ability to find very powerful connections in the government and such (kinzie and her FBI ties being crucial to the saints in 3) to come back ontop without reverting into an overly violent street gang again like they were for years in 1 and 2.
So a criminal gang game, where: -The characters try not to commit crimes -Form a company, not a gang, but call it a gang anyway -Lacks much gameplay Kinda unsurprising when you get Twitter political activists to make a game, rather than game devs building a game for gamers....
@@ScottishScrub Johnny Gat died around the beginning of 3 then came back in 4. But the crazy thing is even 3, 4, and Gat outta hell is better than whatever this game was trying to be
That's what bugged the hell outta me. This man kinda embodied the old but they turn around and make him jealous of the new then kill him off. It almost feels symbolic of what the reboot did.
I would argue that early to mid 2000's games were less buggy because that was still a time they couldn't just release a mess and patch it later. It was either finished or it wasn't. There was no fixing it later.
@@AliBazz Deep Silver isn't really to blame. They have limited budget but give free reign to the devs. The problem is that Volition is no longer led by the devs who made the previous entries of this series.
@@Eskimo_iio you're right let's Lynch and torch the devilivers no but for real I'm surprised the developers set up straight face and like yeah people are going to love this
Nah, if this were a Netflix adaptation then every good main character would be black, all bad characters would be white men, all main characters would be females, male characters would be stupid and useless and at least half of all the characters would be gay or trans.
One reason people liked SR 1 + 2 is that it was about the MC's rise as a character. It fleshed them out. For motive, for means. It was a full arc in and of itself. By the third, you could very much argue high functioning sociopath - but it was earned. He learned, the very hard way, that everyone was going to screw him. Or screw him over at some point. Everyone. Gat was the only one MC ever really trusted, and Shaundi never really got the chance (as asked in SR 4 romance path) because she was busy "fucking half of Stillwater." Again, her character arc was a bit more jarring, but she learned and grew as well. This one doesn't have a Pierce, who never really had to grow because it was accepted that he was not the brightest bulb but might come through as clutch. He was the endearing comic relief that was often tied annoying. They all attempt to replace him for the bad takes on humor. They don't have a Carlos, because you don't really learn to be what you are in this game. Part of that is the devs knowing their player base probably understands all the mechanics but for a reboot story; they needed to treat it less as a tutorial and more as a "stay a while and listen..." It's still a story. If you want to start from the beginning and try to save the legacy, you have to accept that you're tossing the old work out, and actually start. From. The. Beginning. Instant gratification wasn't what the fan base wanted. Either of them. A big problem with the reboot is, it kind of isn't one. They started the story from the point you are a rookie merc, sure. They also kept in the "I prefer puckish rogue" attitude that marks the character a sociopath... BUT it's not. That behavior is learned. Socio. This MC is actually written like Nuali. A full psychopath. It'd be one thing if they actually looked like they were struggling financially. If they'd gone to school in a flashback and everyone but Eli had been turned down for scholarships so they were forced to shit jobs to scrape by; and turned to gang life as means to better themselves. Then you can maybe mitigate the entitlement. However, I think you're right. Volition and Deep Silver probably figured most who play these games don't give that much of a flying rat's arse about story. Maybe they just didn't want to put in the work... but damn, you'd think the industry would have learned it's bloody lesson after the snaffu of Cyberpunk. : /
You know, the current main cast could have worked if it was a fakeout where you play them for a good portion of the game, but are killed, replaced, and the Saint's name is taken by guys who actually act like the Saint's would.
That would require actual talent and/self awareness. Volition is lacking both. An even easier plot twist would've been the game being told through the eyes of unreliable narrators. The four main cast believe they're so cool and likable, but in reality, everyone in Santo Illeso hates them and see them as the narcissist woke assholes they are, and the final act of the game has you either accepting the reality that the new "Saints" are actually full-on villains, or getting to play as Nualli and finally killing them, which is what most players would've chosen anyway and been a great plot twist we've rarely seen in gaming. They could've even had a post credits scene where a young Gat from Stilwater comes in and sees the Saints are imposters and he takes over the remaining NPC Saints and tell them to join the real Third Street Saints or die. Now THAT would've redeemed this horrible game.
The game is only about 4 hours long but because it forces you to complete 6 ventures to progress the main story it stretch’s game time to about 8 hours it’s dogshit and playing it is a chore 😊
This is actually one of the first Sins Channel video that I actually see as well-deserved, Volition should've thought twice before fricking with the old Saints Row Fans
@@Justforvisit Honestly, much like CinemaSins, he's more often than not wrong, and has reached the phase where he's embaressed by his cringe ass SJW ways now that they didn't bring him enough views. The difference is, Dartigan is occasionally funny.
@@TheDapperDragon I don’t really think people watch EWW videos for their reviews and constructive criticism. At least for me anyways, I like the quick summary of the game’s story, with a few funny nitpicks here and there. Of course Cinema Sins kinda sucks though now since they’re not funny
Saints Row the Third is probably my favorite game in the series (the 4th one was okay but didn't really feel like a Saints Row and more like superhero simulator). The humor in it was amazing ("A fucking Tiger!!!") and was just over the top enough that it felt like I was playing around in a really good action movie with some good spoof material on the side. It still felt like I was playing a "gangster," even when it went beyond a little with some of the more out there missions and side content. This new Saints Row just seemed to suck the soul out of the franchise... Its like they rebooted my favorite older movie and decided that everything that was actually good about it is now bad ala "its problematic..." like going out of their way to attract a new audience while simultaneously alienating their old one... Its just disappointing all around.
About 3rd Saint's Row Game being the best I absolute agree with you and to shout out how disgusted I am with this reboot, the probably most famous and funny line of Saints Row III shall serve me here as a statement: In Robin Atkin Downes voice: "Fuck My Life!"
@@mattstansbeary3068 Today, you need to convince people that your opinion is valid with more evidence that is probably necessary or you'll get hit with a wave of trolls. Trolls that agree with you, just don't agree with the fact that they clicked your video to get a 2 word description, "it sucked". People are annoying like that lol. We like to be convinced that our opinions are valid by superior people because a lot of people have little confidence in their decision making abilities
@@kennethkingdon-korab2174 what did that have to do with a joke made by someone not liking a game? Like, who wouldn't want further emphasis if you're being genuine? In some cases you wouldn't need to, but most cases you can't just put it as "I liked/disliked it. Why? I won't say because I shouldn't have to."
Rare is this game that can make me exclaim "Wow, that's so incredibly stupid" with nearly every line of dialogue and plot point. Even going to hell in Saints Row IV had more internal consistency in its writing than this.
That whole judas plot point made groan so loud. I know theres a certain comedy for stuff like that being in your face but theres a limit im willing to deal with, and that was too much lmfao
AngryJoe tore this game to pieces in a recent review. It’s lazy, it’s unfinished, it’s a bad narrative… the game is just a blatant cash grab! What I’ve come to expect from modern day game companies 👎🏻
And the fact that it’s an Epic Store exclusive, and its Fortnite-esque art direction and cringe writing makes it even more apparent that Volition is pandering so hard to the Fortnite crowd.
Given the dev's ideologies, it is really so surprising that they see no contradiction with characters who are simultaneously morally bankrupt with no regard for human life and incredibly self-righteous to the point of constantly telling the world and themselves how much better they are than everyone else?
100% correct about the Judas knife, I had a three day break between that cutscene and giving it the nahwali and I forgot about the knife depression purchases, I was looking at throphies and one of them is literally just "betrayed by a friend"
I like the gaming sins idea, it’s hilarious but very on point. Bro, it’s really simple. The developers & publishes think their fan base is stupid. They want stupid people playing their games but here’s the kicker, their target market can’t afford all these 80-90$ games. I have the devs a chance when they apologized for Agents of Mayhem because they said they learned from their mistake & what fans didn’t want. I think they thought the only problem was the cartoon look of the game.
Also did you notice that people in the city call you the saints before you're even the saints lol. Like if you change outfits and walk around people will be like oh the saints blah blah
The plot would have worked better if the Saints were actually trying to create a legit start-up business and kept having to engage in gang criminal activity to keep it afloat.
"We hate the other saints row games, so we decided to make one that was ten times worse; and we'll spit on the fans for not wanting a bad saints row." Now that's comedy!
Sin 11 about the raging rant in the car is actually a call back to a movie scene where a character goes on a similar rant down to a similar timing on the use of the words goddamn and mf. I can't remember the movie's name, but the specific scene is showcase in the 100 greatest movie insults video on YT. Look it up, it's funny.
This is easily the most disappointing game of the year for me. I’ve been a fan of this ever since its original release I fight every day multiple times. Into get this water down half baked Game is just a travesty to the series. Whatever sequels or DLC they were setting up in the story ain’t gonna happen the Saints will go away for another 10 years and maybe be rebooted again. And the worst part about this is they had a chance rockstar has been re-releasing GTA five for the last decade they could’ve overtaken them with something awesome but nope.
I asked Dartigan once on a livestream about when he planned on doing a Sins for Condemned 2 (A game he once did a stream on that I love but still wanted to see his piece on it) and he said that he was entertaining the idea but was super backlogged with lots of creator projects. The fact that Saints Row has been barely out for a month and he still chose to make the time to release a video on it now is really telling about the game.
13:09 to be fair, that was how it worked (kind of) in SR1 and 2 as well with the respect system, but of course those were actually good game you enjoyed to explore between missions
And on top of that fully completing like five or six activities usually gave you a lot of respect that's more than enough to finish the game and a lot of cool unlockables
Hell, in the first two games the point was that you needed to earn the respect of your gang’s lieutenants/members to willingly shoulder the risk of violent/high notoriety crime. You do this by expanding the Saints’ territory, resources and influence across the city you're conquering. The gang in SR 2022 doesn't even have the self respect needed to call themselves citizens throughout the game
Julius in saints row 1 created the gang to pull third street back from being a constant bloody war between the gangs, the protag of this saints created the “gang” because he doesn’t like being yelled at by adults
Saints Row without Johnny Gat is LIke Halo without Master Chief. I expect Volition kept him out because they know there is no way he wouldn't just kill all 4 of these rip offs.
I love how most Game Sins videos are just a sped up play through, and calling out or poking at fun at things as they come up, but this Game Sins video is just straight up commentary!
9:24 "Perhaps Volition felt their game sucking as much ass was enough." An entire world of related humour and Dart comes up with a much better joke than my single braincell could have ever conceived.
A sins video for Saints Row... I think a section of Hell just froze and the world is really ending because something like this should never have happened.
I been waiting on this game since it was announced, even though I heard of the reviews I had to see for myself. Man was there a lot to unpack. I enjoyed customization but This game has the quality as an early 2010’s Xbox 360 game. Everything you said is accurate to a T!
I can’t get over they had the nerve to have this game on pre-order for 100$ at the highest tier. Can you believe someone might’ve actually bought a preorder limited edition of this game for 100 fucking dollars and the game is incomplete!? Like they had NO TESTERS before they released this to the public. For purchase. I cannot get over this fact. Many of these game companies are taking young gamers for idiots. Not the older gamers (32+ yrs old). We know better. We played video games before the dawn of micro transactions, online play, and patches.
Also, why exactly would a publicly traded company want to be known as the owners of a street gang? The game would make more sense if the premise was that they decided that an ex-employee becoming a gangster was a PR issue and sent mercs to liquidate you.
Everyone hated how TLOU2 tried making an uncomfortable plot by making characters unlikable, revenge-crazed idiots. Saints Row did the exact opposite and made its cast as wholesome as possible, but people HATED that because that approach doesn't really work when you want to tell a story about a street gang. Making a capitalist-styled criminal empire sounds like it would work in something like Borderlands.
honestly, after looking at several other reviews for this game, i'm shocked and incredibly impressed at the amount of restraint you had in this video one recently came out, that only covers the major events of the plot, the side quests and some behind the scenes interviews, and while it's certainly far more in depth than the sins format allows for, it's still only really scratching the surface of the content in the game that review is 2.5 hours
I remember when the series used to be about gang life, that was a fun time. Now we just have to deal with this university student who sounds like he's a SoundCloud rapper
(Prelude To Game Play) I owned the Reboot, I watch a ton of Saints Row Reboot review videos & Long game play reviews. But i want to give you the real....okay let's start with the day I brought the game. I purchased the game as on the first of September....yes I paid the $65.00 cost....(Sometimes Curiousity Cost). Of course it was a brand-new copy....when I got home popped the disc in my PS4....I was surprised the load bar was quite fast until I push the start button & ran into a long EULA agreement statement. So I agreed...now before I go to war, I like to adjust my settings such as disable the subtitles. Turn up the audio, & adjust the camera rate. The only thing left now to head to the gameplay. So usually I like to keep my difficulty on normal until I complete the game then I play again on hardest difficulty. (The Actual Game Play) .... So I do my customiization of the boss....so I create a bad Azz tattooed up black chick I named her "Tameka".... Tameka once shes available for the open world of Santo Illesso....the world is her oyster,. I experienced minor glitches, 3 game crashes & 1 mission redo.....but most of the time my gameplay ran good. Even though it was many side quest, main story missions, & money making hustles....but unfortunately the open world felt bland....the music radio was stale, & the storyline is dryer than exzyma skin......the characters is weak & out of touch & the only gang In the story that kept it Saints Row was the "Panteros Gang". I would recommend to wait for the day patches & game updates. But if your juices of curiosity gets the best of you. Then check it out..... ❤️💯😎❤️💯😎❤️💯😎
You know a game has some issues when all you can do sometimes is to leave the game on, go do something else, and come back when the free money button is finished cooling down. In Saints Row 3, 4, and Gat this was hardly ever a problem, most of the time that money went into getting me better guns which I didn't need but wanted, Reboot had me doing it to buy more property that I needed to barely change the number of times I had to sit my controller down to wait for my free money.
Remember in Saints Row 2 when The Boss and Gat were crazy psychopaths who burned the city to the ground to get what they wanted? Showing a level of brutality that was just as bad if not *worse* than the other gangs? Remember how much fun they still were and how disturbingly interesting it was to see what they were going to do next? No, instead of replicating that, let’s make the Saints come from some light hearted plucky college frat boys! Where our best jokes revolve around waffle irons and something-something capitalism evil when we’re a capitalist product made to profit on people’s nostalgia.
Oh man, they brought back the "Fun" system from the old games? Those were my least favorite part of the games. Having to do side missions to unlock the main missions.
This game with these characters would unironicly exist in the main series, made by some company who wants to exploit the Saints' image while also wanting to appeal to everyone, and then the gang would assault their studio for ruining their image.
Good video as always Dartigan! As soon as Volition said this was going to be a woke reboot with none of the classic SR humour, I knew it was going to be bad, but how bad, didn't predict it. I've not seen a lot of good quality products that have the label woke attached to it and all the things to make PC, Saints Row wasn't it! It's like making It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia woke when the whole point is that these are awful people with awful morals and you're supposed to be laughing at them, not with them! Also, the gameplay is so bad, it's on par with Cyberpunk in its early stages! I don't see this improving with patches like Cyberpunk did! I'm so voting for The Medium, as someone with mental health issues, seeing the game's overall message is that the mentally unwell character has to die to make things right, it's really disgusting and Bloober has another game with the same message (the Blair Witch), it's put me off from buying any of their games and I don't think their Silent Hill 2 remake will be good either!
That makes sense. The style of this channel is very nit picky (which isn't a bad thing for this channel), so that actually means that good games will get more sins since their greatness exposes more flaws that can easily be nit picked. If a game is bad, it's just "ugh this game is bad."
In another series these kinds of characters would be seen as complete psychopaths . There literally walking contradictions.A gang member who cares about student loans XD huh.
These characters aren't believable gang members. It sad to see that this is what we got for a saints row game. The old games weren't amazing but they were fun and had memorable characters.
K: Okay & whatever you do, DO NOT steal the Tank 'Radio call ends' P: We're stealing the Tank right? B: Of course we're stealing the fucking Tank! Sorry one of my fav lines from SR3
I think, the character's don't have to be bad people per say, but they definitely can't be good people, since good people don't usually go around founding or joining gangs, plus when I played the game I ran over so many people who were in my way as I was driving and shot several cops that were annoying me, thats not something a good person does so why does the game want to make it seem like the main cast are good guys? For reference in saints row 2 your character does something that eliminates all possibility of you ever being considered a good person, the the games never really tried to make you a good person, except maybe saints row 4.
remember in saint's row 2 when you could sort of set up uniforms and vehicles for the gang members? that was neat, an open word gang life simulator would actually be kinda cool
There is only one way the series can be saved. If these characters actually are the bad guys and the real saints row heros are in the next game. Too much to hope for I know.
To make the 'no bonus' scene EVEN DUMBER, no, he didn't get paid, because it was the 'FIRST DAY'. The Boss is throwing a shit fit because he didn't get a bonus and everyone cheering his name...on his first day. And instead, got a mild scolding.
@@fieryrebirth race has nothing to do with that it's also a more pronounced trait in milenials also check inner cities suprisingly people in ghettos think the world of themselves
12:12 Saints Row 1 had a mission exactly like this. Except the guy was being held outside the car, being threatened to be thrown out and you had to be careful not to kill him in the process.
*"It amazes me that Volition was self-aware enough to write Nahualli confused by how dumb these characters are, yet somehow not self-aware enough to realize how dumb these characters are and make changes."*
Gold star for you, Dartigan.⭐
They probably dismissed it as "Boomers don't get us, man. They just don't understand being sociopathic murderers with a heart of gold and social justice minded." That, or just a mix of self aware writers and woke writers.
Either way, this is one of the worst video games I've ever seen. Even Cyberpunk was better than this cause it was a new IP. But what they did to my favorite franchise is like having an ex wife who forced your youngest son to become a woke criminal out of spite to you.
Why do you think they didn't release a story trailer because they knew if they did the game would have been dead I should say completely dead
@Colt Wolf student deabts too
@@MarvinPowell1 let's not forget that violation also refused to refund the game until it was impossible to actually get a refund because they didn't want the bad publicity form the failure the game was
Saints Row is the woke cancer of all games ever made.
Y'know it's bad when even the main villain guy is confused and being "friends" with the saints.
Dis dat dan houser writin 😊👌🏼
You stole his slice of avocado toast one too many times and he finally had enough.
he never even expressed interest in them
after the "team building" he seemed amused by the day but that was it, it just comes out of nowhere and also what was his plan, "i kidnap them, we hang out.... now what?"
At least he could have gone with the cliche "with you out of the way I will step into the leading role of the saints, and if your friends don't want to work for me, let's just say I have no problem cutting them out."
I played through this game and it was rough and fell VERY SHORT of any of the other games in all regards
The plot bends over to make him like them when he clearly had no desire to hang with them. But because the guys are so awesome and cool, he becomes obsessed with keeping them.
He was the only good character in the whole game he was pretty much everyone who was playing this game trying to figure out why we doing this team bonding crap when we should be planning on how we doing the heist what will we need etc instead fuck that hey look free hover bikes we can because convenient
The fact that the devs had the audacity to attack the fans on Twitter because they didn't want a bad Saints Row game says it all.
Yeah beacuse if you dont like something/someone in todays World, you are somethingphobic. Its just pathetic that devs dont give a fuck now, they dont listen to the fans, they just pandering to the 1%.
Except the fans went crazy over two bad saints row games but you add a little social justice and people loose there tiny minds
The fact that they actually made this, thought anyone would like it, thought these Blue Checkmarks would immediately be beloved by the public, heard the backlash in August 2021, ignored it and then attacked the fans, had AN ENTIRE YEAR to course-correct the game (which they even could've done in secret and pretended it was the original plan all along), and still released it as is, says all you need to know about why Volition should immediately be shut down and why no one will be sad about it.
They didn't do that though, they stated how no matter what route they went, there will be people who were gonna hate it. The game is fun as fuck even if the story has its bad moments.
It feels like they’re coping and projecting whenever they do it too. Like they’re trying to tell other people that they aren’t bothered by the criticism when they are entirely bothered by it. Hence why they make outdated top text bottom text memes saying that haters are gonna hate
The depression segment becomes 10x dumber when you realize getting fired didn't actually stop the Boss from robbing stores, performing side-hustle, killing other gang members, and pretty much everything else you can do at the beginning of the game while employed.
Being depressed after getting fired only works if you don't have an alternative source of income. The illogical decisions that are made in this game are immense.
especially given that the alternatives pay better robbery pays better than grunt mercenary work
I still can't get over the fact that the devs wanted these characters to be relatable and "the kind of people you'd want to invite into your home."
Are they aware that these guys are suppose to be members of a gang... that KILL AND ROB PEOPLE.
I wouldn’t be surprised if their way of thinking is moral good = bad and moral bad = good. We live in a day and age where criminals are loved and innocent people are hated.
I mean, I would invite the old gang into my home
We live in an age where lies are packaged as "truth" even down to not knowing what a "woman" is and putting biological men in women's sports, and the truth is dismissed as a lie, such as the pandemic coming from a gain-of-research lab in Wuhan.
The old crew I WOULD invite into my home because they're genuine and true to who they are. And by the third game onward, are intentionally pushed as anti-heroes (or "puckish rogues"). These people though? Are inconsistent walking contradictions who are also liars ("good at what they do, good people" etc). Dartigan is right in that they're perfect Far Cry villains; misguided narcissists who believe they're the "good guys" despite what their actions actually say about them. They're perfect social justice warriors.
But in short, you could actually TRUST the likes of the old Boss, Pierce, Shaundi, Gat, and Kinzie. There's nothing trustworthy or likeable about this new gang; especially Kevin. He's literally the worst traits of everything about Zoomers nowadays.
Yeah it was when the devs started making statements like that I knew this game would be a pass for me. The Saints
In every game are ultra-violent criminals with a total disregard for human life, who the hell looks at a group like that and thinks “lovable outcasts”?
To be fair, the og saint's I would invite into my home after I found out they were gang members. There is not 1 excuse not to have a brew and a blunt with that crew. Everyone was well thought out and had their own personality strengths despite being a gang member. Gat was a hilarious mess even though he was a psycho. I would go to a comedy club with that man. This team just makes me want to continue walking down the street if I hear them speak or pass them a dollar towards their rent out of sympathy for their dumb broke asses.
Main Character: I have to pay my student loans.
Me: But you're a street gang; which means you're criminals. Which means student loans shouldn't even be a concern.
Most of the money you would be getting as a gang member wouldn't be taxable, since, you know, it comes from theft or illicit dealing, therefore none of it would be being taken away to pay of student loans.
@@Nyghtking Then how did Al Capone get arrested and later jailed for Tax evasion?
@@brandonlyon730 Because Al Capone used a business as a cover, and he was lying about his income for it.
They took that angle because they figured since he was already committing crimes he was probably committing more
I love how games don't let you be a bad person anymore.
well intentionally seriously a heist crew of 5 one of which isn't the leader and sits on his ass at home and the guy who saves the leader gets one gold bar
Yeah bruh let the players be evil for once, i thought they would do that for the sucide squad game but they just made the justice league evil in that game
You must really hate the Yakuza games then. 😆 🤣
@@blackRXrider Majima>Kiryu
I mean you werent a bad person in the other Saints games either excepts Saints Row 2 when your the most psycho mother fucker ever. The other ones always had you be the better of the options.
When I think of Saints Row, I always think back the monster truck scene from 2 with Maero. It shows how absolutely horrible a person the boss is, and how evil and vindictive they are. It's a fantastic bit that illustrates you as a villain protagonist, because YOU ARE. There are just worse people than you out there, sure, but the Saints don't try to moralize and make what they're doing seem right, it's just what they want to do for their own gain. You're surrounded by murderers, drug dealers, and thieves at all times; you're not the good guy, and that was A GOOD THING. This weird moralizing they throw in the reboot about sturggling young adults and "fighting the system" or what-have-you doesn't endear me to the characters; it makes me dislike them because they're fooling themselves. At least the Saints used to know they were fucked up people.
The brotherhood story line is one of my favorites to think about. Because the Brotherhood are the same as the Saints in a way, they are what the saints would've become had the playa not gone into a coma.
And really it shows how petty the playa is. They hurt maero and targeted the brotherhood at first because of an offer of a small cut which makes sense given the saints don't have the pull they once had, it doesn't benefit them to give them a bigger cut. Which the saints would've done if it was some other upstart gang looking to make a name for themselves.
Then they retaliated, we lost Carlos, they lost jessie, then more members and their weapons, then Matt, and so on. All over the cut offered to what was an obsolete gang.
After they literally dragged Carlos to death... all bets were off with Maero ... eff him and his annoying gf
When I think about Saints Row, I think about the ridiculously fun missions and all the crazyness and gameplay freedom you get compared to GTA.
The reason is because SR3 was my first one. I bought it because it looked cool and had hype behind it, and I was pleased with what I played despite not knowing the story of the characters in it.
I found out about their backstories much later
The saints may not be good people, but they HAD personality and relatability on a deep level. Politics isn't deep. Everyone with a a pulse has an opinion on it and you can find several thousand people with the exact same thought process. When it comes to values, character and personality, people may be the same in some ways, but the differences out weight the similarities and that's why the OG crew connected with me personally. It highlighted my uniqueness and individuality as a person. Just like it did others.
Atleast in the original 4 games they actually gave a reason why the saints became much more friendly and passive over the years, after SR2 they basically got through all the rough and bloody growing pains of an empire, once they stood ontop they focused on appealing to the public more than brute force to keep control, they already had control and a huge following by the end of 2. They fell off a bit during 3 after losing alot of clout and power and going in exile to steelport, but by then, due to their long lasting fame, they had the ability to find very powerful connections in the government and such (kinzie and her FBI ties being crucial to the saints in 3) to come back ontop without reverting into an overly violent street gang again like they were for years in 1 and 2.
So a criminal gang game, where:
-The characters try not to commit crimes
-Form a company, not a gang, but call it a gang anyway
-Lacks much gameplay
Kinda unsurprising when you get Twitter political activists to make a game, rather than game devs building a game for gamers....
Yeah at this point the people making / in support of these atrocities are pretty much cancerous, THE PROBLEM!
Welcome to 2022.
Where you're a professional without being a professional
saints row gameplay not making sense be like:
When Johnny Gat died he took the integrity of Saints Row with him…
Yes
Why did they kill him off ?
Makes no sense 🤔
Johnny never died
@@ScottishScrub he died in 3 tho 🤨
@@victorcharles27 No he didn't.
@@ScottishScrub Johnny Gat died around the beginning of 3 then came back in 4. But the crazy thing is even 3, 4, and Gat outta hell is better than whatever this game was trying to be
The Nuhualli was the only character that had any semblance of the old Saints Row till the end where he was jealous of not having any friends
That's what bugged the hell outta me.
This man kinda embodied the old but they turn around and make him jealous of the new then kill him off.
It almost feels symbolic of what the reboot did.
Nuhualli: *OLD SAINT'S ROW GAMES*
the "saints": *NEW SAINTS ROW*
Mid-2000’s bugginess and mission design combined with 2020’s politics/social commentary. The worst of both worlds. Congrats volition.
L to deep silver for tryin to screw over their consumers widdis asset flip, campaign for hazelight studios to make a saints row game
@@AliBazz DEF an asset flip #NOTMYBOSS
I would argue that early to mid 2000's games were less buggy because that was still a time they couldn't just release a mess and patch it later. It was either finished or it wasn't. There was no fixing it later.
@@AliBazz Deep Silver isn't really to blame. They have limited budget but give free reign to the devs. The problem is that Volition is no longer led by the devs who made the previous entries of this series.
@@Eskimo_iio you're right let's Lynch and torch the devilivers no but for real I'm surprised the developers set up straight face and like yeah people are going to love this
The Netflix adaptation of Saints Row
🎯
Nah, if this were a Netflix adaptation then every good main character would be black, all bad characters would be white men, all main characters would be females, male characters would be stupid and useless and at least half of all the characters would be gay or trans.
Saints row: *The downgrade*
0:02 Stop the video right there. That’s all you need to watch. Because EVERYTHING is wrong with this game.
LMAOOO
One reason people liked SR 1 + 2 is that it was about the MC's rise as a character. It fleshed them out. For motive, for means. It was a full arc in and of itself. By the third, you could very much argue high functioning sociopath - but it was earned. He learned, the very hard way, that everyone was going to screw him. Or screw him over at some point. Everyone. Gat was the only one MC ever really trusted, and Shaundi never really got the chance (as asked in SR 4 romance path) because she was busy "fucking half of Stillwater." Again, her character arc was a bit more jarring, but she learned and grew as well. This one doesn't have a Pierce, who never really had to grow because it was accepted that he was not the brightest bulb but might come through as clutch. He was the endearing comic relief that was often tied annoying. They all attempt to replace him for the bad takes on humor. They don't have a Carlos, because you don't really learn to be what you are in this game. Part of that is the devs knowing their player base probably understands all the mechanics but for a reboot story; they needed to treat it less as a tutorial and more as a "stay a while and listen..." It's still a story. If you want to start from the beginning and try to save the legacy, you have to accept that you're tossing the old work out, and actually start. From. The. Beginning. Instant gratification wasn't what the fan base wanted. Either of them.
A big problem with the reboot is, it kind of isn't one. They started the story from the point you are a rookie merc, sure. They also kept in the "I prefer puckish rogue" attitude that marks the character a sociopath... BUT it's not. That behavior is learned. Socio. This MC is actually written like Nuali. A full psychopath. It'd be one thing if they actually looked like they were struggling financially. If they'd gone to school in a flashback and everyone but Eli had been turned down for scholarships so they were forced to shit jobs to scrape by; and turned to gang life as means to better themselves. Then you can maybe mitigate the entitlement. However, I think you're right. Volition and Deep Silver probably figured most who play these games don't give that much of a flying rat's arse about story. Maybe they just didn't want to put in the work... but damn, you'd think the industry would have learned it's bloody lesson after the snaffu of Cyberpunk. : /
In short: Everything
I was about to say that. 
You know, the current main cast could have worked if it was a fakeout where you play them for a good portion of the game, but are killed, replaced, and the Saint's name is taken by guys who actually act like the Saint's would.
that would have been a good twist lol
@@Hero1922 i feel like if you can't one-up the in-game story, then one-up the player with a huge troll that's perfectly in line with Saints Row humor.
Or if the actual saints killed them for being copycats
@@chasemorris3537 I honestly hope that's the DLC, and this epic BS was just one big troll job...
That would require actual talent and/self awareness. Volition is lacking both.
An even easier plot twist would've been the game being told through the eyes of unreliable narrators. The four main cast believe they're so cool and likable, but in reality, everyone in Santo Illeso hates them and see them as the narcissist woke assholes they are, and the final act of the game has you either accepting the reality that the new "Saints" are actually full-on villains, or getting to play as Nualli and finally killing them, which is what most players would've chosen anyway and been a great plot twist we've rarely seen in gaming. They could've even had a post credits scene where a young Gat from Stilwater comes in and sees the Saints are imposters and he takes over the remaining NPC Saints and tell them to join the real Third Street Saints or die.
Now THAT would've redeemed this horrible game.
YES! I've been waiting for this one! The fact it's not an hour+ long video, is the surprising part!
The game is only about 4 hours long but because it forces you to complete 6 ventures to progress the main story it stretch’s game time to about 8 hours it’s dogshit and playing it is a chore 😊
The game is so bad, you could cover it in less that that lol. I think the people that liked the game were the media.
You made a great point about them trying to be "likeable" murderers and being villains. Theyre like Handsom Jack with 0% of the character
This is actually one of the first Sins Channel video that I actually see as well-deserved, Volition should've thought twice before fricking with the old Saints Row Fans
Dartigan is a legend. And the only true "Everything Wrong with"
Forget everything else.
@@Justforvisit Honestly, much like CinemaSins, he's more often than not wrong, and has reached the phase where he's embaressed by his cringe ass SJW ways now that they didn't bring him enough views.
The difference is, Dartigan is occasionally funny.
@@TheDapperDragon I don’t really think people watch EWW videos for their reviews and constructive criticism. At least for me anyways, I like the quick summary of the game’s story, with a few funny nitpicks here and there. Of course Cinema Sins kinda sucks though now since they’re not funny
Saints Row the Third is probably my favorite game in the series (the 4th one was okay but didn't really feel like a Saints Row and more like superhero simulator). The humor in it was amazing ("A fucking Tiger!!!") and was just over the top enough that it felt like I was playing around in a really good action movie with some good spoof material on the side. It still felt like I was playing a "gangster," even when it went beyond a little with some of the more out there missions and side content.
This new Saints Row just seemed to suck the soul out of the franchise... Its like they rebooted my favorite older movie and decided that everything that was actually good about it is now bad ala "its problematic..." like going out of their way to attract a new audience while simultaneously alienating their old one... Its just disappointing all around.
About 3rd Saint's Row Game being the best I absolute agree with you and to shout out how disgusted I am with this reboot, the probably most famous and funny line of Saints Row III shall serve me here as a statement:
In Robin Atkin Downes voice: "Fuck My Life!"
Facts! The 3rd was the best imo as well 🔥💯.
Pretty disappointed that the total run time wasn’t a minute just saying everything.
lmao true.
Yeah like he wanted to give the Game a kinder outcome. Me: This Game is Trash Sin:100,000,000 just for Existing.
@@mattstansbeary3068 Today, you need to convince people that your opinion is valid with more evidence that is probably necessary or you'll get hit with a wave of trolls. Trolls that agree with you, just don't agree with the fact that they clicked your video to get a 2 word description, "it sucked". People are annoying like that lol. We like to be convinced that our opinions are valid by superior people because a lot of people have little confidence in their decision making abilities
@@kennethkingdon-korab2174 what did that have to do with a joke made by someone not liking a game? Like, who wouldn't want further emphasis if you're being genuine? In some cases you wouldn't need to, but most cases you can't just put it as "I liked/disliked it. Why? I won't say because I shouldn't have to."
Rare is this game that can make me exclaim "Wow, that's so incredibly stupid" with nearly every line of dialogue and plot point. Even going to hell in Saints Row IV had more internal consistency in its writing than this.
That whole judas plot point made groan so loud. I know theres a certain comedy for stuff like that being in your face but theres a limit im willing to deal with, and that was too much lmfao
I feel like I could shorten this video easily
Everything Wrong With Saints Row
Start
1. It Exists.
End
AngryJoe tore this game to pieces in a recent review. It’s lazy, it’s unfinished, it’s a bad narrative… the game is just a blatant cash grab! What I’ve come to expect from modern day game companies 👎🏻
And the fact that it’s an Epic Store exclusive, and its Fortnite-esque art direction and cringe writing makes it even more apparent that Volition is pandering so hard to the Fortnite crowd.
Given the dev's ideologies, it is really so surprising that they see no contradiction with characters who are simultaneously morally bankrupt with no regard for human life and incredibly self-righteous to the point of constantly telling the world and themselves how much better they are than everyone else?
I can’t think of a game in recent history I’ve wanted to see here/deserved to be here more than this one.
cyberpunk 2077?
@@mastergwaha I should have specified stuff that hasn’t been covered. (There’s an argument it wasn’t on the devs on that one, it was management. )
You’re opening dialogues keep getting better
100% correct about the Judas knife, I had a three day break between that cutscene and giving it the nahwali and I forgot about the knife depression purchases, I was looking at throphies and one of them is literally just "betrayed by a friend"
I like the gaming sins idea, it’s hilarious but very on point.
Bro, it’s really simple. The developers & publishes think their fan base is stupid. They want stupid people playing their games but here’s the kicker, their target market can’t afford all these 80-90$ games. I have the devs a chance when they apologized for Agents of Mayhem because they said they learned from their mistake & what fans didn’t want. I think they thought the only problem was the cartoon look of the game.
Also did you notice that people in the city call you the saints before you're even the saints lol. Like if you change outfits and walk around people will be like oh the saints blah blah
The plot would have worked better if the Saints were actually trying to create a legit start-up business and kept having to engage in gang criminal activity to keep it afloat.
"We hate the other saints row games, so we decided to make one that was ten times worse; and we'll spit on the fans for not wanting a bad saints row."
Now that's comedy!
Sin 11 about the raging rant in the car is actually a call back to a movie scene where a character goes on a similar rant down to a similar timing on the use of the words goddamn and mf. I can't remember the movie's name, but the specific scene is showcase in the 100 greatest movie insults video on YT. Look it up, it's funny.
The title of this video explains the whole game
This is easily the most disappointing game of the year for me. I’ve been a fan of this ever since its original release I fight every day multiple times.
Into get this water down half baked Game is just a travesty to the series. Whatever sequels or DLC they were setting up in the story ain’t gonna happen the Saints will go away for another 10 years and maybe be rebooted again.
And the worst part about this is they had a chance rockstar has been re-releasing GTA five for the last decade they could’ve overtaken them with something awesome but nope.
hard agree
I asked Dartigan once on a livestream about when he planned on doing a Sins for Condemned 2 (A game he once did a stream on that I love but still wanted to see his piece on it) and he said that he was entertaining the idea but was super backlogged with lots of creator projects. The fact that Saints Row has been barely out for a month and he still chose to make the time to release a video on it now is really telling about the game.
13:09 to be fair, that was how it worked (kind of) in SR1 and 2 as well with the respect system, but of course those were actually good game you enjoyed to explore between missions
And on top of that fully completing like five or six activities usually gave you a lot of respect that's more than enough to finish the game and a lot of cool unlockables
Hell, in the first two games the point was that you needed to earn the respect of your gang’s lieutenants/members to willingly shoulder the risk of violent/high notoriety crime.
You do this by expanding the Saints’ territory, resources and influence across the city you're conquering. The gang in SR 2022 doesn't even have the self respect needed to call themselves citizens throughout the game
Julius in saints row 1 created the gang to pull third street back from being a constant bloody war between the gangs, the protag of this saints created the “gang” because he doesn’t like being yelled at by adults
Saints Row without Johnny Gat is LIke Halo without Master Chief. I expect Volition kept him out because they know there is no way he wouldn't just kill all 4 of these rip offs.
My biggest pet peeve of the entire gameplay was the dodge roll. The moment I saw it in the preview I was turned off
I'm so happy he used the speed racer Mach 5 drifting around the block clip.
I love how most Game Sins videos are just a sped up play through, and calling out or poking at fun at things as they come up, but this Game Sins video is just straight up commentary!
9:24 "Perhaps Volition felt their game sucking as much ass was enough."
An entire world of related humour and Dart comes up with a much better joke than my single braincell could have ever conceived.
A sins video for Saints Row... I think a section of Hell just froze and the world is really ending because something like this should never have happened.
That Love Shack karaoke ending
*Shudders from cringe*
Surprised that you didn't sin the fact that the Reddit and Discord mods were both thanked during the credits of this game.
I been waiting on this game since it was announced, even though I heard of the reviews I had to see for myself. Man was there a lot to unpack. I enjoyed customization but This game has the quality as an early 2010’s Xbox 360 game. Everything you said is accurate to a T!
I can’t get over they had the nerve to have this game on pre-order for 100$ at the highest tier. Can you believe someone might’ve actually bought a preorder limited edition of this game for 100 fucking dollars and the game is incomplete!? Like they had NO TESTERS before they released this to the public. For purchase. I cannot get over this fact. Many of these game companies are taking young gamers for idiots. Not the older gamers (32+ yrs old). We know better. We played video games before the dawn of micro transactions, online play, and patches.
😂
“Everything IS wrong with Saints Row” should be the video title!
Also, why exactly would a publicly traded company want to be known as the owners of a street gang? The game would make more sense if the premise was that they decided that an ex-employee becoming a gangster was a PR issue and sent mercs to liquidate you.
Everyone hated how TLOU2 tried making an uncomfortable plot by making characters unlikable, revenge-crazed idiots. Saints Row did the exact opposite and made its cast as wholesome as possible, but people HATED that because that approach doesn't really work when you want to tell a story about a street gang. Making a capitalist-styled criminal empire sounds like it would work in something like Borderlands.
Getting hurt every time you step out of your vehicle. The struggle was real with that
Imagine each sin is a punch to the face to every Volition dev that worked on this game and said yeah this what the fans want 😤
Companies need to learn to just make a new IP.
Agreed!
That would require putting in effort, and we know very few game companies do that.
Oh I’ve been waiting for this
honestly, after looking at several other reviews for this game, i'm shocked and incredibly impressed at the amount of restraint you had in this video
one recently came out, that only covers the major events of the plot, the side quests and some behind the scenes interviews, and while it's certainly far more in depth than the sins format allows for, it's still only really scratching the surface of the content in the game
that review is 2.5 hours
I've prayed for this, and you provided. Bless thee 🙏
This game existing is a sin in of itself. Which is worth at least 1,000 sins
I remember when the series used to be about gang life, that was a fun time. Now we just have to deal with this university student who sounds like he's a SoundCloud rapper
(Prelude To Game Play)
I owned the Reboot, I watch a ton of Saints Row Reboot review videos & Long game play reviews. But i want to give you the real....okay let's start with the day I brought the game. I purchased the game as on the first of September....yes I paid the $65.00 cost....(Sometimes Curiousity Cost). Of course it was a brand-new copy....when I got home popped the disc in my PS4....I was surprised the load bar was quite fast until I push the start button & ran into a long EULA agreement statement. So I agreed...now before I go to war, I like to adjust my settings such as disable the subtitles. Turn up the audio, & adjust the camera rate. The only thing left now to head to the gameplay. So usually I like to keep my difficulty on normal until I complete the game then I play again on hardest difficulty.
(The Actual Game Play) ....
So I do my customiization of the boss....so I create a bad Azz tattooed up black chick I named her "Tameka"....
Tameka once shes available for the open world of Santo Illesso....the world is her oyster,. I experienced minor glitches, 3 game crashes & 1 mission redo.....but most of the time my gameplay ran good. Even though it was many side quest, main story missions, & money making hustles....but unfortunately the open world felt bland....the music radio was stale, & the storyline is dryer than exzyma skin......the characters is weak & out of touch & the only gang In the story that kept it Saints Row was the "Panteros Gang". I would recommend to wait for the day patches & game updates. But if your juices of curiosity gets the best of you. Then check it out.....
❤️💯😎❤️💯😎❤️💯😎
Dartigan does it again! Lol as much as I want to love this game, this was a great roast.
11:57 One thing this game is good at are the freaking drifting mechanics. That was fire 🔥.
I’m glad I never wasted $60 on this game
You know a game has some issues when all you can do sometimes is to leave the game on, go do something else, and come back when the free money button is finished cooling down. In Saints Row 3, 4, and Gat this was hardly ever a problem, most of the time that money went into getting me better guns which I didn't need but wanted, Reboot had me doing it to buy more property that I needed to barely change the number of times I had to sit my controller down to wait for my free money.
wow this games campaign is so short I didn’t even realize how close to over this video was
So glad this video came out I started this game and immediately said that’s a sin
Remember in Saints Row 2 when The Boss and Gat were crazy psychopaths who burned the city to the ground to get what they wanted?
Showing a level of brutality that was just as bad if not *worse* than the other gangs? Remember how much fun they still were and how disturbingly interesting it was to see what they were going to do next?
No, instead of replicating that, let’s make the Saints come from some light hearted plucky college frat boys! Where our best jokes revolve around waffle irons and something-something capitalism evil when we’re a capitalist product made to profit on people’s nostalgia.
this game makes cyberpunk unfinished state when it was first released feel like a pure masterpiece from day one.
Oh man, they brought back the "Fun" system from the old games? Those were my least favorite part of the games. Having to do side missions to unlock the main missions.
This game with these characters would unironicly exist in the main series, made by some company who wants to exploit the Saints' image while also wanting to appeal to everyone, and then the gang would assault their studio for ruining their image.
Maybe spending less time in sensitivity meetings and focusing on making a fun game should be a bigger priority
Good video as always Dartigan! As soon as Volition said this was going to be a woke reboot with none of the classic SR humour, I knew it was going to be bad, but how bad, didn't predict it. I've not seen a lot of good quality products that have the label woke attached to it and all the things to make PC, Saints Row wasn't it! It's like making It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia woke when the whole point is that these are awful people with awful morals and you're supposed to be laughing at them, not with them! Also, the gameplay is so bad, it's on par with Cyberpunk in its early stages! I don't see this improving with patches like Cyberpunk did!
I'm so voting for The Medium, as someone with mental health issues, seeing the game's overall message is that the mentally unwell character has to die to make things right, it's really disgusting and Bloober has another game with the same message (the Blair Witch), it's put me off from buying any of their games and I don't think their Silent Hill 2 remake will be good either!
I just find it horrifying that this game has less sins than something like Days Gone.
That makes sense. The style of this channel is very nit picky (which isn't a bad thing for this channel), so that actually means that good games will get more sins since their greatness exposes more flaws that can easily be nit picked. If a game is bad, it's just "ugh this game is bad."
Love the line about the devs losing their jobs.
Especially considering the studio that made this just shut down lmao
@@CraftBattleAxe Yeah, that’s what I meant.
10:25 aged perfectly.
13:07 is my issue with modern games, forcing you to do things that should be fun to get extra content until it's no longer fun.
Looks like they buried Agents of Mayham in the pet cemetery so they can kill it again.
This game is basically what if Twitter users became gangsters
Did you watch those walkthrough from The Professional
In another series these kinds of characters would be seen as complete psychopaths . There literally walking contradictions.A gang member who cares about student loans XD huh.
These characters aren't believable gang members. It sad to see that this is what we got for a saints row game. The old games weren't amazing but they were fun and had memorable characters.
24:00 the Hell’s Angels biker gang have a heavily enforced copyright over their name and logo. You can, legally own a gang, through copyright law.
One of the worst games i played, way too many game and progress breaking bugs.
K: Okay & whatever you do, DO NOT steal the Tank
'Radio call ends'
P: We're stealing the Tank right?
B: Of course we're stealing the fucking Tank!
Sorry one of my fav lines from SR3
12:53 Its kind of ironic that saints row refrenced Bethesda
"It just works"
They should have just went with the ending where earth gets brought back and made a game off those events
I went through Dartigan's old videos, and not once did he sin a GTA game. I think those are overdue for that.
I think, the character's don't have to be bad people per say, but they definitely can't be good people, since good people don't usually go around founding or joining gangs, plus when I played the game I ran over so many people who were in my way as I was driving and shot several cops that were annoying me, thats not something a good person does so why does the game want to make it seem like the main cast are good guys?
For reference in saints row 2 your character does something that eliminates all possibility of you ever being considered a good person, the the games never really tried to make you a good person, except maybe saints row 4.
Make this “everything not wrong with saints row (2022)” and save a few days
remember in saint's row 2 when you could sort of set up uniforms and vehicles for the gang members? that was neat, an open word gang life simulator would actually be kinda cool
Thanks for the captions, it's much appreciated.
There is only one way the series can be saved. If these characters actually are the bad guys and the real saints row heros are in the next game. Too much to hope for I know.
To make the 'no bonus' scene EVEN DUMBER, no, he didn't get paid, because it was the 'FIRST DAY'.
The Boss is throwing a shit fit because he didn't get a bonus and everyone cheering his name...on his first day. And instead, got a mild scolding.
Tbf, a lot of white Americans believe they're entitled the world for the barest minimum of effort.
@@fieryrebirth race has nothing to do with that it's also a more pronounced trait in milenials also check inner cities suprisingly people in ghettos think the world of themselves
@@fieryrebirth Not where I expected to find a random zoomer racist comment, but ok.
12:12 Saints Row 1 had a mission exactly like this. Except the guy was being held outside the car, being threatened to be thrown out and you had to be careful not to kill him in the process.
It's like the plan for this game was take everything that was awful from the other Saints Row games and implement them onto this game
Everything wrong with this game is the game itself. The End.
People rage when they have a bad day at work, but not like that.
How did this not get 250 sins? You've gone soft Dartigan
Or woke