I need either ring or strap, so I can wear my mechanical watches without losing data that I like, but I do agree they need to work on syncing between multiple devices first. I had brief experience when changing from 945 to fenix 7 few months ago, and it wasnt pretty
100% agreed. I got a Fenix for every day use, for sport, but I often don't wear it at night. With a ring, I could track some data while sleeping. A GARMIN RING IS WHAT I WANT!
I've had the Epix Pro for 3 months now and I would absolutely buy a ring form factor for sleep tracking and when I just don't feel like wearing the watch
I can’t be the only person wearing whoop and garmin… After a year with whoop, I’m struggling to see the value in a very inaccurate HRV and HR data. I would buy whoop like band from Garmin in a heartbeat.
The subscription to whoop is a DEALBREAKER for me. I would not hesitate to buy outright band even without a display or a ring from Garmin IF the data is accurate. Waiting on the latest watches release hopefully to come in in September. Hopefully a ring or band will be released also. I have the Garmin Venu but it is not super accurate and it has developed burn in.
Im a whoop user! If a bracelet comes without a display I will go for it without thinking!! I want to use my mechanical watches again!! Do it now! Whoop doesn’t count even steps bleat!!!
This! I used whoop for over a year. It was fine but switched to garmin smart watch. Love it, but I'd really love a strap I could wear so I can wear my dress watches and still get the data
I would have a garmin Strap - i want the apple watch for the smart function of it, but i love my garmin too much and the data side of things so I can’t use an Apple Watch, so if there was a strap i could wear it while having my Apple Watch as my daily watch, that way i still get the data as well as a good smart watch - then switch it up when i go on a hike or bike ride where i need the map function in the garmin.
Since I prefer wearing a mechanical watch on working days, I ended up buying the Vivosmart 5 shown in the video. BUT I ordered a nylon watchstrap and wear it around my ankle. That way I works fine in monitoring my heartrate, stress level etc without me having to go double wristed. Unfortunately there aren’t many options for straps that can go around your ankle and the Vivosmart 5 is unnecessary thick due to the screen. So I would jump on anything Garmin would sell that allows me to measure stats (preferably also HRV sleep) around my upper arm, ankle or finger.
Please, not a ring. The only reason the watch can be annoying is during sports where it could get damaged. Not gonna use kettlebells while wearing it. A ring would free my wrist but take out even more exercises, all barbell , dumbbell, tracking bar ,... exercises. A secondary sensor for example on the biceps would be perfect, free up the wrist and also keep the hands/fingers free ✌️
That's an interesting take about a secondary sensor to wear elsewhere. The whoop strap sells exactly that, an armband as well as apparel where it can slot into the waistband. I was definitely envisioning the ring usage as a casual tracker that wouldn't take the place of a watch for an activity. You make some great points though. Thanks for watching!
Totally agree, I would buy one in a heartbeat (if you pardon the pun). I don’t get on with chest strap HRMs so use a Polar HRM on my bicep when cycling. A fitness tracker in its place that would broadcast HR data to my Edge on the bike would be a must buy item for me.
I'm very happy with my Fenix 7. I don't notice the size. I wear it 24/7 except for charging. It feels weird when I don't have it on. So nope, I don't need any other device.
When I got a smartwarptch I was in an awe. After using it for less than a year awe went away. And not because the watch was not good. I still use that watch. But only like a watch - to see the time. But my cell phone is my watch's nearest competition... in terms of showing the time. 😊
As an Epix Pro 51mm user, I'd love a ring just to wear on days I'm not training just to continue tracking steps, sleep etc.. Shut up and take my money. 🙂
I have the whoop and about 6 different garmin products . I still prefer my automatic watches. So the only option I have is vivosmart 4 which I have 2 colors that I use on the other wrist to access my Garmin connect. The small auto scrolling display is perfect for notifications. Hope Garmin can update the vivosmart 6 to a sleeker design with elevate sensor and GPS that is more accurate
I say, let the market dictate what they want. I do prefer to wear the least amount of devices a possible. Hopefully they keep making improvements on sensor tech so you only need to wear one device. But if there is a practical reason why I need to wear a strap or a ring for now to give me a more accurate or consistant reading that is fine with me. Maybe they could try a flat device with multiple sensors that attaches to our clothing maybe with a magnet like some lapel microphones do for daily use or activities.
I wear a fenix when I'm not working & a hrm pro while at work as I work with my hands & don't do any jewelry at work. It would be nice if they'd integrate all the functions of the watches into a chest strap for me.
I would appreciate either a band or ring. Or, like you said, better synchronization in the app with different brands. I love my watch, but hate wearing it to bed and don't care to wear it just working around the house. I have been checking into the ring thing, but I've never had one or even tried one on, so not sure how I'd really feel about it after actually wearing one.
Hey cheers Dave. I have a nice mechanical watch, so I double up, using the Vivosmart 5, as per your video. I looked at Whoop, but the monthly subscription put me off, plus my allegiance to Garmin Connect pushed me to Vivosmart 5. I do think a Garmin ring would be a very interesting item, that I would be very tempted by. By the way great video, first time I have seen you on here 👍
I love it. Took about 10 min to set it up exactly how I like it (similar to the last version). I use a ton of features and activities, and I like the way I can customize glances
Prefer the new design. My take is its similar to an apple vs android experience. Where new one is more android like with customizability and older one is more iOS like, one design fits all.
Which would be more consistent, sensitive or reliable for tracking data, the watch, the ring or the band? Such that if one wore one of each would one get the same data readout? I know even though everything goes through Garmin Connect, there are multiple instances where my watch says take a rest day but my Garmin 1030+ says to go do an interval session.
A ring is a good idea for everyday health tracker, then wear your garmin watch when you want to run or any outdoor workouts. Cheaper watch and combine with a ring device would be fine for me.
Hello, and thanks for your thoughts. From my perspective I don't see Garmin in this direction going. The company has been positioned to address the needs of ambitioned amateurs athletes and professional athletes. I would assume that they are going further in this direction. New products I could imagineare: blood sugar meter, additional bike sensors, sensors to measure swimming form.
I could definitely see further development in health monitoring equipment similar to their blood pressure cuff or existing cycling accessories. I still think there is a large market for casual fitness tracking, but you make a great point that their market lead is in catering to more serious athletes. I'd absolutely love it if they did a lactate testing monitor. Thanks for watching! 💪🏃
@@rcwilli1991 Read the App review comments for the most honest perspective from actual owners. Here are things that seldom work but they market: body battery, vo2max, charts and trends, stress level, etc It's a really good step counter.
personally I would appreciate if garmin would come ot with a whoop competitor product. I like the idea, that the techniqie is easy to take out and put it on hidden places like underwear for example. A ring I wouldn’t buy….i think for cycling it’s bad when you wear them and you crash. In addition it’s very annoying with charging…i mean an other ring size leads normally to a different charger for the ring. So if you forget your charging the device it is less likely that someone can help you out
In love with my MK3i. I feel naked when I need to take it off to charge every 2 or 3 weeks, but there are some moments where I wish I could continue to monitor Garmin Connect data while wearing a mechanical watch instead, especially at formal work meetings. A Garmin smart ring with physio trueup could potentially solve this.
Yes I think I'd be extremely tempted by a ring form factor since it's different enough from wearing a watch and like you said opens up the ability to dress more formally or professionally. Thanks for watching! 💪🏃
I've semi hacked the mechanical watch conundrum with a Vivosmart 5. It's a band, that's just discrete enough, that it doesn't seem weird to have a mechanical watch on one hand and athe garmin band on the other.
@@rxl77 I think one of the other things Garmin has to address is real syncing across multiple Garmin devices. Physio TrueUp doesn’t sync body battery, and if my memory isn’t failing me, I think HRV status requires consistent per-device wearing?
The vivosmart 5 does HRV but is limited in the data it displays. It won't show overnight or real-time HRV stats. It only shows a 7 day average. But fully agree, the killer unlock is to have fully functional multiple device syncing. FWIW, I do have an Instinct 2 which I wear most of the time and will wear the VS5 when I want to wear a mechanical watch out - and the Garmin sync connect works pretty well between the two. I don't really see any double counting and the data tends to sync up nicely when they pair to the app.
1st a screenless band or a clip on for underwear, if not, well a ring is better than anything. i usually wear my Epix in my ankle when i use any watch on my collection, so, mostly i wear it on my wrist only to go to the gym or to go to sleep. I bought a vivosmart, but the sad compatibility of most metrics makes it a bit useless so i hardly wear it anymore, only when using shorts.
I love my epix watch and would not use a ring or bracelet. I prefer the GPS display and being able to see the time and date and have a fairly accurate heart rate sensor
You are missing something very important when comparing Garmin to the other brands, and that is the moment others came up with solution for longer battery life, more and more of Garmin customers will switch to their respective alternatives, because Garmin lacks of many current features (available in other watches, for example), stable and more or less precise software (see their forum to see whats going on with their buggy software and tons of bugs which never being fixed), customer support (again, see the tons of complaints in their forums) and so on and so forth. Even if they produce a ring, who can guarantee that ring will be direct competitor to Galaxy ring, Aura or something else?
I can’t wear even my wedding ring. I don’t like rings, they are not practical and not compatible with my sports, rings are not for me. Better sync amont multiple devices would be nice. I was a fenix user, but i switched to fr955 because of the weight.
The new Samsung Ring seems to be very unreliable on the stats it provides, making it useless. Not sure if other brands are the same or not. Also, the ring gets in the way of some types of workout, like weights, or most sports that you need to use your hands. Finally, I definitely do not need another paid subscription in my life.
Honestly people who jump on that wagon of rings are either gadget lovers or not good in the head - spend that money plus subscription for bunch of "health metrics " which mostly are made up and have zero value in reality 😅😅😅😅
That could definitely be true, but I'd say the "fitness band" form factor popularized by Fitbit (similar to vivo active) was the fad form factor of the last decade and it had some staying power and made a lot of money. Who knows? 🤷 Where can I learn more about their R&D or these patches?
@@DaveDoesFitness I think back to sales 101, are we really selling the form factor or the data? And in my mind watches are both, Fitbit/Whoop/Aura are exclusively the data. If data is the true selling point then we have to think outside of current form factors into least intrusive and least visible; hence patches. I’m not sure that Garmin is going that route just yet, but with recent technology of CGM’s, sweat patches combined with decades le ‘smart clothing’, we’re probably not far from semi-disposable patches, eventually leading to clothing doing most the tracking
These are good ideas/ alternatives however it depends on accuracy, battery life and costs! I've always worn a watch. I feel like I'm missing something when it's not on my wrist. I own many an I change them up daily and their bands. With the younger generations it more a fade the function as they like in the smartphone era. Garmin need to step up their game and get with the program! Smart rings are not it! They must make all their watches with OLED displays with more face options today. The days of a $1400 smartwatch are coming to a quick END! Just like sunglasses market when they could charge $800, now the same or better sunglasses are costing $40 a decade later! With so many new manufactures in the smartwatch market the competition has already become fierce. As these other smartwatch companies in the next year, start to make watches that are accurate with as long charge- times for under $400, Garmin could get lost in time.
the thing is that a "companion" sensor, should be one more product, not the only one. so i guess there are people who love to wear a smart watch for everything, and those who like to have a healt monitor always, but not necesarilly a screen all the times like me.
I need either ring or strap, so I can wear my mechanical watches without losing data that I like, but I do agree they need to work on syncing between multiple devices first. I had brief experience when changing from 945 to fenix 7 few months ago, and it wasnt pretty
I want this so bad.
100% agreed. I got a Fenix for every day use, for sport, but I often don't wear it at night. With a ring, I could track some data while sleeping. A GARMIN RING IS WHAT I WANT!
I've had the Epix Pro for 3 months now and I would absolutely buy a ring form factor for sleep tracking and when I just don't feel like wearing the watch
I can’t be the only person wearing whoop and garmin… After a year with whoop, I’m struggling to see the value in a very inaccurate HRV and HR data. I would buy whoop like band from Garmin in a heartbeat.
The subscription to whoop is a DEALBREAKER for me. I would not hesitate to buy outright band even without a display or a ring from Garmin IF the data is accurate. Waiting on the latest watches release hopefully to come in in September. Hopefully a ring or band will be released also. I have the Garmin Venu but it is not super accurate and it has developed burn in.
Im a whoop user! If a bracelet comes without a display I will go for it without thinking!! I want to use my mechanical watches again!! Do it now! Whoop doesn’t count even steps bleat!!!
This! I used whoop for over a year. It was fine but switched to garmin smart watch. Love it, but I'd really love a strap I could wear so I can wear my dress watches and still get the data
I would have a garmin Strap - i want the apple watch for the smart function of it, but i love my garmin too much and the data side of things so I can’t use an Apple Watch, so if there was a strap i could wear it while having my Apple Watch as my daily watch, that way i still get the data as well as a good smart watch - then switch it up when i go on a hike or bike ride where i need the map function in the garmin.
Since I prefer wearing a mechanical watch on working days, I ended up buying the Vivosmart 5 shown in the video. BUT I ordered a nylon watchstrap and wear it around my ankle. That way I works fine in monitoring my heartrate, stress level etc without me having to go double wristed. Unfortunately there aren’t many options for straps that can go around your ankle and the Vivosmart 5 is unnecessary thick due to the screen.
So I would jump on anything Garmin would sell that allows me to measure stats (preferably also HRV sleep) around my upper arm, ankle or finger.
If co-workers spot that they may question your past 😆
Thanks for watching!
Please, not a ring.
The only reason the watch can be annoying is during sports where it could get damaged. Not gonna use kettlebells while wearing it.
A ring would free my wrist but take out even more exercises, all barbell , dumbbell, tracking bar ,... exercises.
A secondary sensor for example on the biceps would be perfect, free up the wrist and also keep the hands/fingers free
✌️
That's an interesting take about a secondary sensor to wear elsewhere. The whoop strap sells exactly that, an armband as well as apparel where it can slot into the waistband. I was definitely envisioning the ring usage as a casual tracker that wouldn't take the place of a watch for an activity. You make some great points though. Thanks for watching!
Totally agree, I would buy one in a heartbeat (if you pardon the pun). I don’t get on with chest strap HRMs so use a Polar HRM on my bicep when cycling. A fitness tracker in its place that would broadcast HR data to my Edge on the bike would be a must buy item for me.
I'm very happy with my Fenix 7. I don't notice the size. I wear it 24/7 except for charging. It feels weird when I don't have it on. So nope, I don't need any other device.
Exact sane here.
When I got a smartwarptch I was in an awe. After using it for less than a year awe went away. And not because the watch was not good. I still use that watch. But only like a watch - to see the time. But my cell phone is my watch's nearest competition... in terms of showing the time. 😊
i want a RING form-factor for 24/7 tracking. I have FR945 LTE, FR245, vivomove HR, vivosmart 3; would love sleeping without a “watch”
As an Epix Pro 51mm user, I'd love a ring just to wear on days I'm not training just to continue tracking steps, sleep etc.. Shut up and take my money. 🙂
I have the whoop and about 6 different garmin products . I still prefer my automatic watches. So the only option I have is vivosmart 4 which I have 2 colors that I use on the other wrist to access my Garmin connect. The small auto scrolling display is perfect for notifications. Hope Garmin can update the vivosmart 6 to a sleeker design with elevate sensor and GPS that is more accurate
I would definitely get a Garmin ring
How can we make some pressure to Garmin develop a Garmin Ring?!
Thats odd they dont have it yet
I support band style sensor only band (no display) so I can wear my watch collection and still not miss my deets and I don't wear rings.
(I have a Garmin Instinct 2X Tactical Solar)
I would have the ring as an additional tracking device so I can wear a more decorative watch when going out I also have the epic pro 2 watch 👍
Subscriptions are deal breakers.
Staying with my Apple watch 8 and Ultra human Air ring.
I say, let the market dictate what they want. I do prefer to wear the least amount of devices a possible. Hopefully they keep making improvements on sensor tech so you only need to wear one device. But if there is a practical reason why I need to wear a strap or a ring for now to give me a more accurate or consistant reading that is fine with me. Maybe they could try a flat device with multiple sensors that attaches to our clothing maybe with a magnet like some lapel microphones do for daily use or activities.
I wear a fenix when I'm not working & a hrm pro while at work as I work with my hands & don't do any jewelry at work. It would be nice if they'd integrate all the functions of the watches into a chest strap for me.
I would appreciate either a band or ring. Or, like you said, better synchronization in the app with different brands. I love my watch, but hate wearing it to bed and don't care to wear it just working around the house. I have been checking into the ring thing, but I've never had one or even tried one on, so not sure how I'd really feel about it after actually wearing one.
Hey cheers Dave. I have a nice mechanical watch, so I double up, using the Vivosmart 5, as per your video. I looked at Whoop, but the monthly subscription put me off, plus my allegiance to Garmin Connect pushed me to Vivosmart 5. I do think a Garmin ring would be a very interesting item, that I would be very tempted by. By the way great video, first time I have seen you on here 👍
I surely hope Garmins next product will be a rollback to the old app design because the new one sucks. I really don't enjoy using it anymore
I love it. Took about 10 min to set it up exactly how I like it (similar to the last version). I use a ton of features and activities, and I like the way I can customize glances
Never used the old design. But I can see how navigating can be odd at first but with time it’s easy to setup in a way that does work for you.
Prefer the new design. My take is its similar to an apple vs android experience. Where new one is more android like with customizability and older one is more iOS like, one design fits all.
Which would be more consistent, sensitive or reliable for tracking data, the watch, the ring or the band? Such that if one wore one of each would one get the same data readout? I know even though everything goes through Garmin Connect, there are multiple instances where my watch says take a rest day but my Garmin 1030+ says to go do an interval session.
A ring is a good idea for everyday health tracker, then wear your garmin watch when you want to run or any outdoor workouts. Cheaper watch and combine with a ring device would be fine for me.
A garmin clip on device would be what my wife would 100% want, she doesn't want a band or watch type. her really old fit bit won't last much longer
Good video, liked and subscribed! Keep it up :)
Hello, and thanks for your thoughts. From my perspective I don't see Garmin in this direction going. The company has been positioned to address the needs of ambitioned amateurs athletes and professional athletes. I would assume that they are going further in this direction. New products I could imagineare: blood sugar meter, additional bike sensors, sensors to measure swimming form.
I could definitely see further development in health monitoring equipment similar to their blood pressure cuff or existing cycling accessories. I still think there is a large market for casual fitness tracking, but you make a great point that their market lead is in catering to more serious athletes. I'd absolutely love it if they did a lactate testing monitor. Thanks for watching! 💪🏃
It would be nice is they focused on simply fixing the inaccurate tracking and broken app features
What do you mean? Is it not accurate? I’m thinking of buying a gaming watch
@@rcwilli1991 Read the App review comments for the most honest perspective from actual owners. Here are things that seldom work but they market: body battery, vo2max, charts and trends, stress level, etc
It's a really good step counter.
personally I would appreciate if garmin would come ot with a whoop competitor product. I like the idea, that the techniqie is easy to take out and put it on hidden places like underwear for example.
A ring I wouldn’t buy….i think for cycling it’s bad when you wear them and you crash. In addition it’s very annoying with charging…i mean an other ring size leads normally to a different charger for the ring. So if you forget your charging the device it is less likely that someone can help you out
In love with my MK3i. I feel naked when I need to take it off to charge every 2 or 3 weeks, but there are some moments where I wish I could continue to monitor Garmin Connect data while wearing a mechanical watch instead, especially at formal work meetings. A Garmin smart ring with physio trueup could potentially solve this.
Yes I think I'd be extremely tempted by a ring form factor since it's different enough from wearing a watch and like you said opens up the ability to dress more formally or professionally. Thanks for watching! 💪🏃
I've semi hacked the mechanical watch conundrum with a Vivosmart 5. It's a band, that's just discrete enough, that it doesn't seem weird to have a mechanical watch on one hand and athe garmin band on the other.
@@rxl77 I think one of the other things Garmin has to address is real syncing across multiple Garmin devices. Physio TrueUp doesn’t sync body battery, and if my memory isn’t failing me, I think HRV status requires consistent per-device wearing?
@@DaveDoesFitness Keep making great videos!
The vivosmart 5 does HRV but is limited in the data it displays. It won't show overnight or real-time HRV stats. It only shows a 7 day average. But fully agree, the killer unlock is to have fully functional multiple device syncing. FWIW, I do have an Instinct 2 which I wear most of the time and will wear the VS5 when I want to wear a mechanical watch out - and the Garmin sync connect works pretty well between the two. I don't really see any double counting and the data tends to sync up nicely when they pair to the app.
ring would be a dealbreaker for me. Braclet? I'd be first in line
Id get a Garmin strap on a heart beat. No screen please! Would also consider a ring.
1st a screenless band or a clip on for underwear, if not, well a ring is better than anything. i usually wear my Epix in my ankle when i use any watch on my collection, so, mostly i wear it on my wrist only to go to the gym or to go to sleep. I bought a vivosmart, but the sad compatibility of most metrics makes it a bit useless so i hardly wear it anymore, only when using shorts.
I love my epix watch and would not use a ring or bracelet. I prefer the GPS display and being able to see the time and date and have a fairly accurate heart rate sensor
I upload the watch data with the WIFI function, the sync with these Apps is frustrating.
They havent really change in the last 10 years but I keep buying them
You are missing something very important when comparing Garmin to the other brands, and that is the moment others came up with solution for longer battery life, more and more of Garmin customers will switch to their respective alternatives, because Garmin lacks of many current features (available in other watches, for example), stable and more or less precise software (see their forum to see whats going on with their buggy software and tons of bugs which never being fixed), customer support (again, see the tons of complaints in their forums) and so on and so forth. Even if they produce a ring, who can guarantee that ring will be direct competitor to Galaxy ring, Aura or something else?
Would love a ring to follow sleep in the Garmin lineup
Nothing will take the place of my Epix Pro Gen2 watch. Amazing personal appliance - in a watch.
I can’t wear even my wedding ring. I don’t like rings, they are not practical and not compatible with my sports, rings are not for me. Better sync amont multiple devices would be nice. I was a fenix user, but i switched to fr955 because of the weight.
The new Samsung Ring seems to be very unreliable on the stats it provides, making it useless. Not sure if other brands are the same or not.
Also, the ring gets in the way of some types of workout, like weights, or most sports that you need to use your hands.
Finally, I definitely do not need another paid subscription in my life.
Not another subscription. No
I sure would
Honestly people who jump on that wagon of rings are either gadget lovers or not good in the head - spend that money plus subscription for bunch of "health metrics " which mostly are made up and have zero value in reality 😅😅😅😅
This frog is hopping out of the pot. I am tired of my bank account being boiled dry by subscriptions.
A Garmin is a gps, a watch and replaces the polar hrm. A ring is totally pants for anyone but the couch potato!
Absolutely will be willing to give my Epix Pro a break with bracelet or ring by Garmin.
Bracelet please!
They still don’t have phone capabilities
Rings are lame and a decade fad. By the Garmin R&D’d a ring, they could develop disposable patches with similar data
That could definitely be true, but I'd say the "fitness band" form factor popularized by Fitbit (similar to vivo active) was the fad form factor of the last decade and it had some staying power and made a lot of money. Who knows? 🤷
Where can I learn more about their R&D or these patches?
@@DaveDoesFitness I think back to sales 101, are we really selling the form factor or the data? And in my mind watches are both, Fitbit/Whoop/Aura are exclusively the data. If data is the true selling point then we have to think outside of current form factors into least intrusive and least visible; hence patches.
I’m not sure that Garmin is going that route just yet, but with recent technology of CGM’s, sweat patches combined with decades le ‘smart clothing’, we’re probably not far from semi-disposable patches, eventually leading to clothing doing most the tracking
Interesting points Nathan. Definitely worth spending some time on. Thanks for taking the time to reply back!
You lost me at “take a look at their webpage”
Oh well, can't be for everyone. Thanks for giving the video a shot
Bait titles no substance. Blocked now
These are good ideas/ alternatives however it depends on accuracy, battery life and costs! I've always worn a watch. I feel like I'm missing something when it's not on my wrist. I own many an I change them up daily and their bands. With the younger generations it more a fade the function as they like in the smartphone era. Garmin need to step up their game and get with the program! Smart rings are not it! They must make all their watches with OLED displays with more face options today. The days of a $1400 smartwatch are coming to a quick END! Just like sunglasses market when they could charge $800, now the same or better sunglasses are costing $40 a decade later! With so many new manufactures in the smartwatch market the competition has already become fierce. As these other smartwatch companies in the next year, start to make watches that are accurate with as long charge- times for under $400, Garmin could get lost in time.
the thing is that a "companion" sensor, should be one more product, not the only one. so i guess there are people who love to wear a smart watch for everything, and those who like to have a healt monitor always, but not necesarilly a screen all the times like me.