Best Web Browser 2024? Arc Browser vs Chrome vs Safari vs Brave
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
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💬 Description
In this video, we're comparing the top web browsers of 2024. Arc Browser vs Chrome vs Safari vs Brave (along with a few others). Which one is the best browser for you?
In-Depth Arc Browser Review:
↳ efficient.tips/b/arc-conviction
✍️ Full Browser Deep-Dive Reviews
↳ Arc Browser: efficient.app/apps/arc-browser
↳ Chrome: efficient.app/apps/chrome
↳ Safari: efficient.app/apps/safari
↳ Brave: efficient.app/apps/brave
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↳ Workona (Tab Manager): efficient.link/r/workona
↳ Toby (Tab Manager): efficient.app/apps/toby
Screen Recording Software Used
↳ Screen Studio: efficient.link/r/screen-studio
🎬 Quick Editor Notes & FAQ
↳ Realize I didn't make it clear enough in the video, while Arc started as MacOS only, it is headed to Windows later this year (that was always the plan).
↳ We accidentally used the wrong Brave vertical tabs screenshot, the feature released in March 2023 was a nearly direct rip from Arc: efficient.tips/e/brave-tabs
↳ Chromium is actually a fork of Webkit (built atop it), so Webkit wasn't created by Apple to compete with Google.
About the Web Browser Software Space:
↳ What if a web browser didn't need to be built for all platforms out of the gate, and could instead focus their time and attention solely on bringing the best user-experience to the user, pulling forward the industry? We're seeing this happen right now with Arc Browser.
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🎥 What We Covered:
0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Browser Wars
2:19 - Arc Browser
3:06 - Arc Features
5:38 - Chrome Stagnation
7:00 - Safari
8:41 - Switching from Safari to Arc
9:52 - Brave
11:11 - Vivaldi & Firefox
11:43 - How most browsers make money
12:28 - Best Browser Verdict
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Quick Editor Notes & FAQ:
↳ Realize I didn't make it clear enough in the video, while Arc started as MacOS only, it is headed to Windows later this year (that was always the plan).
↳ We accidentally used the wrong Brave vertical tabs screenshot, the feature released in March 2023 was a nearly direct rip from Arc: efficient.tips/e/brave-tabs
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This is actually the best video I've seen comparing Arc to other browsers. Until now, people have focused on "why Arc is good" instead of "why Arc is better." Not only that, but you've described the practices and reasons for why browsers do things and why they're built the way they are. Genuinely a video I'd recommend to people who I believe should take an interest in why they should care about their browsing experience. Great job Alex, this is a great video, love the detail and research.
Okay, this just made my day/week/month, so much appreciate the words of encouragement 🙏 AND for seeing the work and thought that went into this video. Thought about how we could make it different from what's already out there (which covers features great), but the "why Arc is better" is what got me to actually start paying attention. While most will go "it's not cross platform, screw that?" It got me thinking "wait, why is it not launching with cross platform, surely there was a lot of thought that went into this decision". And as I dug, the deeper I got, and the more I started actually seeing the vision they have and WHY it's different, and better. They are iterating and evolving so quickly for it. Never knew a web browser could do that, but it makes sense how they're able to do it 🤯, and I think the "risk" is starting to pay off for them.
Your comment meant a lot to me/us, thank you 🙏
What do you mean? What browser is on your homepage? A bit confused by what you even mean by that 😅
arc is the reason my parents are still together
Amazing! It's because of the Picture-in-Picture mode, isn't it? 😏
@@efficientapp Which all major web browser have.
With extensions yes, natively to the degree that Arc does it (especially with Google Meet and deep integration with Meet screen sharing as well) is what separates Arc from the way that other browsers do it.
Arc for Windows is estimated to come out during the month of December 2023.
Just saw Josh's post on X-so amazing to see this come to fruition and to see Swift running on Windows. The fact that they are also going to be open-sourcing the Swift -> Windows code is incredibly exciting! Wonder if we'll start seeing amazing MacOS apps like Cleanshot X on Windows in the coming years thanks to the hard work by Arc 🙏
I've been using ARC since the Beta and haven't looked back. They do many things I enjoy, hide tab, shortcuts and use AI creatively, and offer nice bonuses like notes and easels.
CMD + S = ♥️
Being able to hide/show the sidebar when you want more horizontal screen real estate (e.g. using side-by-side tabs, Figma, Webflow, or something of that sort), and then back to expanded mode when you're in browsing/single-focus mode definitely feels like the best of both worlds. And having all of that additional vertical screen real estate by not having anything in the top is 👌
Love the editing on the part where you talked about playing RUclips videos in Arc. Clean
Awe thanks so much 🥹 props to our video editor, he nailed it 🔥
Looks like I'm going to set up Arc now
Let's goooo 🙌 super curious to hear what you think-looks like you'll be using it for programming, their developer mode is pretty awesome 👨💻
Great video and great top pick, all my love goes to Arc! And you have my sub. ;)
Ayyy, means a lot! 🙏 definitely have more to come to make the sub worthwhile 🙌 see you on the next video
How do I like the video a 2nd time? 🔥
I still can't believe you convinced me to be fully on Arc. 😂 I can be pretty stubborn
Hahaha the truth of the matter is I was shocked when you finally gave it a shot. You like to joke around, so I 100% thought you were messing with me when you said you were trying it. Then when I learned you were being serious, you went back to Safari and I thought for sure I'd never see you again. You gave it a totally fair shot. Was in disbelief when you came over a month later and I saw you using it, I think I looked at your screen and sarcastically went "ha...ha..." And you said "what?" and I said you're messing with me again, you said in the most genuine tone "wait, about what?" And I realized in that moment that you had been converted 🤯
Really looking forward to trying Arc (still on Windows for now). Does anyone know how efficient it is resource-wise? RAM hog like Chrome? How is it with battery? Etc
I've had way better memory management than Chrome as they do some pretty solid tab freezing for background tabs, to not be using up your RAM unnecessarily. Battery life has also been good, probably because of the memory management side of things.
Great video
High quality browser content!!
Awe, appreciate you for that 🙏 ended up putting a ton of work into it 🚀
how about the memory usage in arc compared to chrome?
It's better than Chrome because Arc does a lot on the back-end to freeze tabs in the background if they aren't in use and even auto-archive tabs that aren't used for a set period of time. I've had much better memory usage with Arc than I've had with Chrome-it has been night and day.
Thank you for the video. As a windows user, I've been waiting to use arc for a while. Happy to try it out real soon.
Of course! Appreciate your comment, and they're getting there with Windows! efficient.link/e/arc-windows
hey quick question will arc on ios have favorites?
The old companion app did, the new app, Arc Search doesn't yet have that I don't recall but I'm sure it's coming soon!
@@efficientappthanks!! because of this vid im on the waiting list for arc on windows, i hope the have favorites and stuff later on ios too, so i can try it with the full experience of having my history and everything on all platforms
That's awesome, glad the video helped you out! Let us know how it goes once you get access 👀
arc is love. arc is life.
Haha I will say that Arc is up there for one of the top tools that I'd be absolutely devastated if I could no longer use again.
Does arc have offline music playlist like brave browser? or will they add that in the future?
Like that's a native music service with Brave? Or you mean using something like YT Music or Spotify for offline music using Arc? If you're referring to the latter, yeah, should be the same since Arc and Brave both have the same foundation, Chromium, and offline music access is probably built into that.
@@efficientapp thanks , i will look into that,
You got it! Hope it goes well for you!
Interesting video. Safari was out before Chrome and in the beginning Chrome was build on Webkit till 2013.
Thanks! And great context 🙏 Chrome was actually originally built by Darin Fisher after his original stint as an engineer at Netscape and then helping turn that into Firefox with Mozilla. He actually went to Google afterward and was like "I think we should be doing this too" and built an MVP for Chrome (on Webkit) and that's where they broke off like you said in 2013 to fully embrace Chromium at the core (which is essentially just a Google fork of Webkit, as Webkit is an open-source rendering engine built by Apple).
What's so interesting and kinda exciting is that Darin actually left his 10+ years at Google and headed to Neeva (to combat Google search as a privacy alternative) and now he's at Arc Browser as an IC (individual contributor) actually writing code and building browsers again. So he's now made himself a part of each generation of browser being built. It's all super cool!
How do you switch from Safari, with Apple Pay, auto fill passwords, etc, I dont see how to switch. Yes, Apple offers passwords as an extension but not Apple Pay?
I don't rely on Apple pay most days, if I ever really just need Apple Pay in a pinch, I use my phone or Safari. For passwords we use Dashlane instead of the native Apple password manager because it's better.
Think you need to figure out the productivity cost/reward with using Arc in the day to day versus just having access to your Apple Pay in the off chance you're using it on your computer once a week 😁
Brave didn't copy vertical tabs from Arc. Vertical tabs have been a thing way before Arc existed with Firefox extensions, Edge, and Vivaldi.
Yes, vertical tabs have been around, but they copied the design nearly identically to Arc, releasing it in May 2023, right as Arc was starting to get some serious mainstream attention. Look at their launch post here, even the favorited icons at the top are the same implementation:
brave.com/vertical-tabs/
It was most definitely inspired by Arc, timing and visually 🤷♂️
@@efficientapp that's identical to vivaldi, sure sure, keep on
I'm convinced. I have been using Firefox for a year now, coming from Chrome, not that I hate Chrome, no, I hate Google, but Firefox sadly is not better than Chrome. I just downloaded Arc, let's hope it's the one. Thank you for this great video.
Awe, appreciate the kind words! And excited to hear what you think (unfiltered)-totally understand where you're coming from! Be sure to report back 🙏
helpful video thank you .
Course! Thanks for the comment! What browser did you end up going with? 🤔
Arc, I run mac mini m2, but I want to try it on an older patched MacBook air, I've been having trouble opening netfix, this is the current problem that led to the research, I liked how complete your video review seemed, I chose Arc to try because I am a mac user. I have spent time away from mac os, but always come back
Amazing to hear! And that means a lot for you to say that 🙏 so glad to hear, comments like this make all the work worthwhile 🥲
Hope all goes well for you and hope to see you around the channel on other software comparison videos 🙌
I started using Arc but one thing that is bugging me is the archiving. I don't mind it archiving the tabs Im not using but it seems it's taking up more memory than Edge for example. Every time I close a tab it automatically archives instead of closing it.
When comparing with edge, I opened 4 tabs on each. Edge is taking around 200MB where Arc takes 450MB. So that's a bit concerning to me
I've switched between so many browsers in the past few years. Idk, I just don't like sticking to one, it gets boring.
Haha I hear you on that, which ones have you tried? Arc has been the only one to truly keep my attention for more than 6 months. Was hopeful about SigmaOS too, but it was so slow and buggy. Have a lot of appreciation for how relatively stable Arc has been.
im using ARC, but in my work using windows, so i have to move.... how about OPERA ❓❓
Arc is now on Windows though, did you sign up for the waitlist? They've let a ton of people in: efficient.link/e/arc-windows
Personally not a fan of Opera, especially not Opera GX more specifically as they are doing some sketchy things apparently on the security/privacy side of things.
ANY browser that forces you to give up your ID info (email etc) as a condition of use is DOA.
While we totally understand this concern, you're going to heavily limit what a browser is ultimately able to do without some form of login. Chrome uses Google Login, so people don't think much about it, but what a browser is able to do beyond just basic browsing is incredibly limited without being able to tie an actual account to it for storing and syncing of data between devices and desktop/mobile.
I'm on Windows and I use Edge because of the great text-to-speech it has and now because of the Copilot integration. And I've been experimenting with Arc beta on Windows for some time now, and it's nice but I don't see anything that Arc can't do that Edge can't, like the sidebar tabs and workspaces. So I still struggle fall in love with Arc.
Totally fair, I mean it's not just about what Arc can do vs what Edge can do, they are both browsers at the end of the day with the goal of being the operating system for which you view websites with.
It's more in the micro opinionation and features that Arc has that makes it, in our eyes, different and impressive.
Not sure how limited Arc is on Windows, but features like Peek have been so game changing on MacOS for us, and some of their AI features that allow us to shift + enter for it to bring us to the site it thinks without first going to Google. It's those micro interactions that make Arc really special in our eyes. But I get it totally.
@@efficientapp Sure, I love browsers and have them all installed and try to use them every time it's possible to see what's new. I like Chrome for how fast and robust it is, I like Firefox because it's open source, I like Edge because of its wonderful TTS functions and Copilot integration, I love Opera for its VPN, I love Vivaldi for its customization, and Arc is interesting because how simple and focused it is. So, I'll keep using Arc and trying to fall in love with it, because in my heart there's space for every browser, hehehe.
Oh wowowow okay, you're like a proper browser fan! Which of all of those do you think you go to, say 50%+ of the time? Is that where it's Edge like you mentioned in your first comment? Or is TTS not needed that often?
@@efficientapp I'm a TTS addict, and Edge's TTS system can't be beaten. And no TTS add-on for Chrome is as good. And I also love AI, so having Copilot integrated makes things much easier.
Got it! I've never gotten much into TTS, but it makes sense and sounds like a great accessibility feature to have!
I would like to hear Corey's workarounds on the autofill and password thing. That's the best thing about safari to me.
Cory's workaround for passwords was to use a proper password management + credit card autofill tool like efficient.link/r/dashlane - you can see a full write-up on the benefits of using a proper password manager here: efficient.app/apps/dashlane
It's just if you're relying on Apple for your autofill and passwords, you're just locking yourself into Apple for everything, when Apple is not being friendly with making their software accessible on non-apple devices or outside of non-apple software.
Using a 3rd-party password management solution means you actually have full control and ownership over your most critical information. If there's one area that you should be concerned about this it's for storage of the most important assets you have, your passwords and credit cards.
EDIT: He also said that he's had a ton of success with iCloud Passwords earlier on. Have you tried this?
@@efficientapp Thanks for the reply. I'm enjoying Arc so far. I am fully immersed in the Apple ecosystem and quite comfortable using it for all my passwords and personal information needs at this stage, but point taken. I like using Face ID, fingerprint on MAC or even autofill with my apple watch as a confirmation.
I appreciate the advice. I've had a few experiences of Arc crashing today for some reason, but otherwise definitely a superior browser. Looking forward to having arc search on desktop as well.
Love it! Appreciate you reporting back on your experience after using it 🙌 totally understand re: Face ID and Fingerprint/apple watch confirmation. It's a tough one, but the biggest question is, are you going to keep giving Arc a shot? Sounds like you are, bummer to hear about the crashes though, they released 2 releases the past 2 days, so my guess is today they pushed a fix to whatever bug you might have been experiencing.
And it is important between the operating systems in which the Browsers work. In Linux, for example, many browsers want to access keyring management. This is disturbing!
That's a good point to call out, thanks for letting the Linux folks know about this!
Arc got me in within 10 minutes!
Oh no way, that's quick! What was it that did it for you? Also curious what you moved over from? 🤔
I just really liked the aesthetic and customization. The AI features were also very cool. I switched from Chrome
Awesome, yeah they did a super thoughtful and impressive integration with GPT & Claude. The way they expanded upon CMD+F when the exact match is no longer found is such an impressive UX. The pop-up summary cards and sharing around it make the web feel super fun.
I think that's what I appreciate most, sounds like they went through 20+ AI ideas and landed on those, after many iterations. So much thought seems to be going into every aspect and feature release.
I too switched to Arc from Chrome 👌 glad to hear it's working well for you!
@@efficientapp :)
I may or may not have been persuaded to buy my first MacBook after arising jealousy from seeing my wife use Arc on the day-to-day 😅
🤭
I used Firefore
Switched to Chrome
Stayed on Chrome for like 9 years
Switched to Opera
Switched to Chrome
Sounds like the next step is:
Switch to Arc 🤭😏
Your information about Webkit and the chrome engine isn't accurate. The chromium engine is a fork of Webkit, which was renamed to Blink. Blink was open-sourced and continued forward, with the reference implementation existing in the Chromium browser. That's what people are using for the basis of other browsers. But Apple didn't "choose not to use the Chrome engine." The Blink engine was a fork of Webkit. Apple continued developing Webkit and continues it today.
Hey hey, you're right, I had actually made an editors note on the description and comment section, I realize there's not an easy way to draw people's attention to the editors note though. Appreciate you leaving a comment and pointing it out, it has definitely been notated and those that read the description (or read your comment) will learn this 🙏
I really love Arc, I just hope it was based on webkit instead of chromium
I hear ya! Maybe they'll do something with that in the future, but for now it makes sense just for getting to market and initial adoption.
I don't use Arc, by the way! Why? Because it's not open source. I can make my Firefox look like Arc, but it's MacOS only. I also dislike companies that make tools I use, so I prefer community-made tools. And before I forget, I use Arch, by the way!
Requiring a company be open source in order to use them is limiting yourself quite heavily, but I also get the sentiment.
That said, we aren't all using Arc because of how it looks, but rather what it does. Just having Firefox look like Arc doesn't make it like what makes Arc so great feature-wise.
Vivaldi or brave with vimium
Have you tried Arc with Vimium though? 😏
Where was opera gx?
This video was more focused on Chrome vs Safari vs Arc Browser vs Brave, it wasn't covered in detail. Opera and Opera GX are both Chromium-based browsers though, that are built for cross-platform. So while Opera has definitely managed to stay relevant in the space with Opera GX (unlike that of Vivaldi it seems), still managing to hold ~3% of the browser market share is definitely impressive.
They've been getting more traction lately especially with RUclips gamers talking about them, but there's some privacy concerns with certain unnecessary calls happening in the background.
All of that said, many of the standout features with GX, like the pop-out video mode, and color schemes are actually done much better in Arc for example. With all of that, we just didn't feel like focusing on Opera GX made sense for this video.
They nee a linux version of Arc. I find it very strange the went from MacOS directly to Windows. It should have been a esy jump to Liinux. the could have done a appimage
Because it was built in Swift, I didn't think Swift to Linux is that easy of a jump? Also there are far more users on Windows than Linux, so if they're going for userbase, it's the right move to make. They also built and open sourced tech to make Swift run on Windows, so it makes porting from MacOS to Windows easier.
im just chillin with opera gx ngl
Haha oh no! Haven't you heard of all the pretty serious privacy concerns that have been popping up with GX?
Arc here we go
Are you using Arc? 👀
@@efficientapp I’m going to give it a try after seeing this video starting Monday. Let's see if it works better than the current browsers I use, Chrome and Safari. Does Arc have an app for IOS?
Awesome to hear! Just seeing this comment now 😅 so curious to hear how it went/is going for you?
And I'm guessing you've also probably seen by now their iOS app called Arc Search, it's pretty minimal, but we're pretty impressed with v1, more is sure to come soon!
feels like Vivaldi on different skin. Ill stick with ghostery or brave
Haha I think you need to actually give Arc a shot versus calling it Vivaldi and writing it off. I promise you the actual experience of using it is nothing like Vivaldi and more special than Brave. You'd just need to try it to see the magic though.
🎥 Full video: efficient.tips/yt/browser
Safari is crazy as it can't play >2x speed, big bummer
What do you mean? Like playing videos more than 2x speed? Using an extension for example? Or what do you mean?
@@efficientapp whenever I try like 3x, video frames freezes and skips with no audio, tries all playback extension like accelerate, video speed controller etc., try on other than youtube, its not 5he case with chromium
Super interesting! I can totally see the frustration there, seems like a huge oversight of Safari (WebKit) 🤯
Microsoft edge is winning rn for me
Super interesting! What makes Edge the winner right now for you? Also, super curious what Operating System you're using?
@@efficientappmy reasons:
- it has built in 4.0 AI-powered features that make browsing super convenient, especially for workflows (copilot comes in handy when studying and getting useful insights and links).
- its productivity features I've used more than any other browser: collections, its tab features like auto grouping tabs (cleaner experience overall and when working with many tabs open), and not to mention the splitscreen & sidebar that has microsoft 365 integration.
- its built in learning and accessibility tools, like the immersive reader, read aloud and web capture.
- it's also Chromium-based.
- its performance is great, even when running a lot of programs in the background or gaming. it loads pages faster and feels more secure than chrome.
p.s. i'm using windows 11 on pc, i use it more than safari on my iphone now as well for the previously stated reasons.
Got it! All great points! Also, sounds like Microsoft 365 integration is important to you, so it makes sense that you would pick the Microsoft product 👌 I am curious, when Arc comes to Windows 11 late this year/early next year, if you'd give it a shot, and if so, what your thoughts are!
Sounds like you've made the right decision for your needs right now, appreciate you sharing what's working for you, as hopefully others that relate with your needs will also find Edge working for them too!
This video is basically an ad for arc, not really a fair comparison IMO.
Why do you say that? It's my experience of the best browser having tried them all and this is my genuine opinionated experience. Would you have preferred that I had no opinion and was super objective about every single word that was said? Is that the only way it wouldn't be considered an "ad"?
Sadly if that's the case, all the videos we produce are going to feel like "ads" to you because we're incredibly opinionated about what we recommend 🤷♂️
@@efficientapp "why do you say that"... really? you can't be more obvious than this video, arc is literally a copy of vivaldi and you spent like 30 seconds talking about it...
Erm... have you actually used Arc? Vivaldi and Arc are incredibly different. Are you saying that solely because they both have sidebars...? A browser is more than just having a sidebar or not. I'd recommend you actually try out Arc before stating that they just copied Vivaldi, they are a totally different experience.
That moment when you realize you could have been paid for something you spent 40+ hours making and doing for free... If we were paid, we'd have disclosed it. You're on a channel that does opinionated software reviews and comparisons. Yes, we are opinionated, and when we like something, we are vocal about it.
so the title of the video is: it's about arc - not about best browsers
It is indeed about the best browser, which Arc happens to be the top pick and leading innovator in the space right now-the point of the video is explaining why we believe this to be the case as compared to the other leading browsers in terms of market share.
If you'd prefer a more in-depth write-up for each other browser on the market, we did that here versus cramming it all into a single video:
efficient.link/browser
If we make a video about the best browser and don't actually select what we believe to be the best browser, then what exactly is the purpose of the video? 🤔
@@efficientapp LMAOOOOOOO kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@@efficientapp tu é uma piada
No need to be rude my friend 🙏
I use edge.
That's surprising! 🤯 How come?
Arc❤
My people 🫶
10:55 uhu, yeah, cuz definetly vivaldi didn't do it ages before this browser
We accidentally used the wrong Brave vertical tabs screenshot, the feature released in March 2023 was a nearly direct rip from Arc: efficient.tips/e/brave-tabs
The point of that segment was not about "who was the first browser to do sidebar tabs".
Edge is the best in my heart: Split and read aloud. Amazing
Interesting! Are you on Windows or MacOS? Well done Microsoft for taking an awful browser (IE) and actually making something that some people like.
Edge is a piece of garbage browser that no one uses. Everyone despise edge because is to bloated and crappy. Their bunch of liars and also forcing everyone to use it against user’s will. No wonder crappy edge market share is decreasing to 10.69% due to their dirty tactics. Crappy edge is digging its own grave. Just stick with google chrome.
merciiiiiiii brave i can stop pub
Hmmm, to Arc you go? 👀
All browsers are really fast enough now so it only comes down to personal preference. But with that said if you care about the internet you probably shouldn't use a chromium based browser.
Going to the extent of "if you care about the Internet, you shouldn't use Chromium based browsers"... Everyone worried about Google with Chromium, and yet no one acknowledges that all the core non-Chromium based browsers (Firefox/Safari) are making their money directly from Google paying them to be their default search engine. So Google has its fingers wrapped around Safari (WebKit) and Firefox (Quantum browser engine).
One could even argue that Google is the company keeping the entire browser industry alive, with Chromium, and without Chromium (~$20bn goes to Apple from Google and ~$500m goes to Firefox from Google every year).
So your comment is not as black and white as you're trying to make it out to be. Using Chromium at a core does NOT mean that you don't care about the internet. Google is enabling the Internet to exist in the way it does today. Heck, even this video, being hosted on RUclips, for free, thanks to Google's ad network. It enables creators to invest a lot of time and money into content at no cost to the end user. There are huge ripple effects that come from Google's ad network and Chromium.
@@efficientapp actually since Google has shown interest in not implemented standards, I couldn't disagree with you more.
That's fair, you're free to have an opinion. I'm just saying it's not as truly black and white as you're making it out to be is all.
@@efficientapp I mean it's the objectively correct opinion if web standards is something one cares about. Even if you consider irrelevant facts such as default search engines.
Given that I'm old enough to remember the pain of having to maintain two code bases because IE was atrocious, but everyone used it by default because they didn't know better or cared, web standards are important to me.
Totally understand what you're saying, I'm the same as you on that front-in the video I even made a nod to web designers when talking about IE. That was my peak web development career and the first 40 lines of code was "load this JS if IE7, load this JS if IE9, this CSS if IE6", 40-50% of my time coding went into just accounting for workarounds.
So the fact that most everything is on Chromium, all of those wasted hours aren't happening anymore, it's an amazing time to be a web developer, because you can actually use awesome technologies like flexbox with complete and full support. That said, and what I'm saying is, while we've been in a bit of an unknown re: some web standards, what aspects to web standards that Google is pushing back on most specifically worry you? Would be curious to know because believe me, I do get what you're saying here, I too am from the era you're describing.
Sidebar navigation was in Opera like 15 years ago
That's fine, what makes Arc great isn't just the sidebar though 😅 it's about the entire user experience. A 15 year old sidebar navigation does not negate that Arc is a cut above the rest.
Arc is nice but really heavy, it eats ram (not as much as chrome but still).
So RAM being "eaten" isn't such a bad thing, it just means it's being used which improves the performance and caching in the browser. Whereas Chrome often has memory leaks, which is a bad thing. Arc seems to do a good balance of RAM usage though, especially for the tool that is used for 90% of the time on the computer, I'd like for it to use most of the RAM tbh.
You should talk why Ark is bad:
1. Very low on privacy.
2. It uses the Google spyware engine.
3. You need to register to be able to download.
4. It is another browser based on Chromium (Google has almost the monopoly on the browsers).
5. It is not Open Source project (totally proprietary).
You're being a bit cynical.
1. It's not low on privacy, they even prioritize privacy and have a core page on their site dedicated to it.
2. Chromium is what 90% of browsers use.
3. In order to sync your data you need an account, thus they require an email, makes sense, use a fake email if you don't like it.
4. It means that all your favorite Chrome extensions and everything else will work and migration is easy.
5. They have Open-Sourced much of their tech that has enabled Swift on Windows, and it's based on Chromium which is also Open-Sourced, so not exactly true.
Fair to have your own opinion though.
@@efficientapp , 6. Oh I forgot to mention: Manifest V3. Adblockers will not work because Arc uses the Google’s spyware engine (Chromium). 😅
It amazes me how nobody is talking about Wavebox. It is Arc in Steroids
Haha it's because Wavebox is an incredibly kludgy tool. They are trying to be a "productivity browser" which doesn't look great and is trying to stuff in a bunch of perceived productivity features that aren't actually helpful. It's far from a proper and useful browser, which is why I'm sure nobody is talking about it 🤷♂️
This is just dumb. Not a hater but i've seen some of these features from Edge. Just because Arc decides to borrow some and add like two or three features and become the innovative browsers. Its Microsoft's mistake here because they care about AI now I guess. Let's not mention Edge had workspaces before Arc and before Edge, Opera had workspaces
It's about which browser executes the best, not who had it first or who is adding features. Arc has the most intuitive and slick interface and UX of them all.
@@efficientapp wrong again. Its who advertises them the best. It really works
You're not totally wrong, but also Chrome doesn't advertise, and it's the most popular browser in the world 🤷♂️
@@efficientapp so ah.. whats chrome's market share again? Google doesn't advertise Chrome that much becuase it has become defeault for everybody. They focus on other stuff that make them money like pixel phones, google ecosystem apps etc. You would notice throughout the years that Google has really tried to be the internet in some form of way. They even released stuff like Docs, Videos, Sheets, Slides which go competitive with Microsoft 365 becuase of schools using a Google based ecosystem with Chromebooks. Google just barely would care about their browser even though they add new features. They would do something if a big enemy like Arc comes by which they probably will soon after Arc's market share grows by a few. So yeah and you'll also notice Microsoft Edge begging you to not leave and that's becuase they want some market share so they add features but sadly they mass promote AI too which also can get users away
So you're saying Microsoft advertises Edge features better than Arc? We believe Arc has been doing a pretty exceptional job at advertising their product and features through their RUclips and X accounts, do you not feel that way?
wtf i am forced to register to use ark on win 11!!!!. hell NOO, brave or firefox, if i wasnt forced to register I would try Ark.
Yes, because Arc does a lot more complex things than Brave and Firefox so it needs a basic cloud account to sync. If you have an iPhone you can use Arc Search without registering for an account though.
Arc browser not block viruses like youtube adds, for example.
Since when are RUclips Ads in the same category of viruses...? 😅 You can install uBlock Origin with Arc and you can block ads just fine. But blocking YT ads is against YT TOS as a heads-up.
@@efficientapp "But blocking YT ads is against YT TOS"
Interesting! Thanks for sharing, sounds like it's currently being challenged and TBD on the outcome, but you seem to be right, it might be headed that way for Europe. Interesting!
@@efficientapp We must fight against youtube brutality.
Wait so can't you just use Arc with uBlock then? Going back to software, Arc should then work for you now?
Safari totally suck, don't even bother guys, just use Brave and/or Firefox.
What? The video is recommending Arc over Safari, Brave, and Firefox though.
Arc is shit and has no working adblocker
Wait, but you can just use uBlock with it (Chromium extension). You're saying it's bad solely because you aren't using an adblocker with it? I know they are working on one btw, if they had that, what would you think of Arc?