Programming and flying the Cessna CJ4 with the Working Title Mod in Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- A short flight in the Cessna CJ4 in Microsoft Flight Simulator - starting and configuring the aircraft, flying a programmed route, and performing an ILS approach in horrific weather. I try to explain most things along the way - should serve as a good example for newcomers.
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This is the best tutorial I have seen for the complete beginner in the CJ4 explaining the basics you need to do your first flight.
I have watched hours of other tutorials which seem to overcomplicate things and be a bit overwhelming for a newbie and have lost me half way through but having watched your video I now feel able to revisit some of the more advanced videos.
Thanks and look forward to seeing more content on the wonderful Working Title CJ4.
Thankyou for the great feedback!
@@jonbeckett I'm going to be joining you!
This is by far the best WT Cessna CJ4 tutorial for me transitioning from the humble Cessna 172 to jet. To the point, clearly explained and keeping to all the important steps and skipping what is not needed in this tutorial. I have learnt so much in the 40 mins. Thank you for spending the time and effort, and thank goodness that your rig did not crash towards the end !
A belated thankyou :)
I'm transitioning from GA to airliners and watched a couple of tutorial vids but you have explained more clearly and made it more understandable than anyone has .thank you and I just subbed and will be watching and learning from your channel once again thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Absolutely brilliant video! Loved this. Been dropping in and out of FS2020 for the last few years but this has been both informative and enlightening! Off to download the Working Title mod right now :)
Been on MSFS for ages and only recently started using the CJ4 after getting into Neofly. Love this plane now
Jonathan! This video is perfect! Thank you! I've been happily flying the TBM 930 w/Working Title mod for the Garmin and I went to "up my game" to the CJ4 and I basically stalled in trying to get the Nav and autopilot to work. I found many other videos, but they were to complicated. Your video is perfect, and a nice bonus to find the Little Navmap app too! Thanks for all your work!
Glad it helped!
Is it possible to save a flight plan into the CJ4's avionics system? I'm currently importing the game's flight plan, and then deleting the additional waypoints the system may unnecessarily toss in. I see the same happens when importing a saved .pln from Little Navmap too so just wondering if the avionics itself can remember flight routes (like the mem1, mem2, mem3 buttons save).
Thanks for this great tutorial. I also love the LittleNavMap add-on
You, Sir, are a legend! This is an AMAZING tutorial. I subbed and rang the bell! I hope you continue to make some more advanced content on the Working Title CJ4.
When I get time, I'll definitely be going back to it. I love flying the CJ4.
Absolutely brilliant video/tutorial! I struggled so much trying to learn ILS in this aircraft and flying with autopilot. Great Job 👏🏼
Glad it helped!
Excellent recap for me Jon ! There's an upcoming group flight using this aircraft, which I haven't flown for a year or so.
Apologies for the problems with the graphics and sound - yet again MSFS shows how unstable it is...
Very helpful, just what I needed and no song and dance. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. Learned a few more things about the CJ4. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video, thanks. I can't wait for this mod to land on the X-Box version.
Best video, so nice explained! Thank you so much
You're very welcome!
Great video!!!
You're welcome :)
great landing in rough weather Captain
Cheers :)
Very interesting thank's
Glad you enjoyed it
I just love little NavMap…very underrated.
It's very flexible.
I’ve been using litle NavMap for years on xplane and MSFS. I don’t understand why the RUclips simmers don’t seem to like it. 🤨it’s freeeeee☺️
Fantastic video!! Next time you're flying an ILS in the CJ4, keep right on that flight director and it'll fly ya right in (keep your black upside down V tucked right into the pink upside down V! Also have you ever tried VNAV on an approach? I've never flown a CJ4 (Just CJ1's 2's and 3's) but if you set your lowest desired altitude on your approach, it should start your descent at just the right time for ya. And if there's different altitudes at different waypoints on the arrival, it will be right on altitude at each one! Keep these awesome vids coming!!!
I'll do some more landing videos at some point - I've done lots of "cold and dark start" videos, but not many on landing. The funny thing? I the real world, pilots tend to fly approach themselves - they rarely use autopilot.
It looks like your FD, in NAV mode was tracking the localizer but you should really be in APP mode so that you track the localizer and glide slope at their more sensitive settings. Your MODE annunciator at that point should say LOC1 and GS. It is a fun airplane to fly ...
Hey man, I have been trying this I line up with the glide slope, got APR mode on with LOC, green needles but the plane just keeps going at the same alt. And over shoots the runway. Anything I'm doing wrong? Cheers
Thank you Jonathan for this great job, it gave me a lot of explanation. Just 1 question : Don't you use the APPR button, in AutoPilot, during the final ? Many thanks from Belgium !
I like flying the plane - I rarely use autopilot on approach
It is with great pleasure and enthousiasme that i follow your video's. As a complete newbie all the information is overwhelming but taking it step by step. After absorbing many of your video's the main question here is: Where can i find the altitudes i have to fly at. Looking at the legs page maybe? Or does ATC tells me to be at which level at the next point on my route? Main goal here is to fly from AMS to LCY. Short route but ideal for practice i reckon.
Regards from the other side of the pond!
In controlled airspace, altitudes are dictated by both the controller, and your flight plan. Your flight plan will dictate the cruise altitude - which is determined by the most efficient manner of operating your aircraft - and the routes to getting there are determined by the flight plan - the SID and STAR, but can be overridden by the controller.
@@jonbeckett Many thanks for your reaction.
Great video ! like this mod a lot... how did you learn all this ? Manual ? Im not sure I follow the required data being "boxes" and not req "dashes" ? dont see the difference somehow on the screens.
I learned by watching videos on youtube, and reading the documentation available from Working Title.
Got a silly question for yah,
Have about 170 hrs in MSFS2020 (majority of the time in the 172, with some time in CJ4). I run a whole bunch of saitek instrument panels (which are showing their age and suffer from boot hangs). I'm thinking of phasing them out and replacing them with a glass cockpit config.
I'm looking at something like the RealSimGear G1000 series. What I'm not sure about is the cross compatibility (to keep costs to a min) between the 172 model and the working title CJ4's proline 21 (notwithstanding the CDU-3000 FMS, that NETAVIO does in limited runs)
Would you have any insight?
My Dad did exactly the same thing. You need to talk to him :) He's "Beckett Snr" on the VirtualFlight.Online Discord server.
Discontinuity exists in the FMS because some arrivals end at a fix where a heading or course are to be flown until radar vectors or direct to a different fix is assigned. Without discontinuities, the airplane will hit the last fix and go direct to the next waypoint and not fly the heading or course on the arrival.
Aha - makes sense - thank you.
And how do you assign them ? .. discontinuities sounds like a made up word. "discontinuity exists in the FMS" interesting phrase.
@@marcw.5492 Discontinuity is a real word - it just means there is a part of the flight plan that the aircraft cannot automatically join together - pilot intervention is needed.
@@marcw.5492 they are added automatically when an arrival or departure are added.
This is a real education... I've never heard that word in flying until recently and now I've heard it at least a dozen times because I get it every single time I make a flight plan... Thanks again I noticed several things with flight planning that don't make logical sense I'll have to make a list sometime and send them to the higher-ups
Thanks for the lesson buddy but I still have trouble switching to NAV mode from HDG. Did I miss something? I click the button but nothing happens.
Incomplete flight plan, or flight directors probably
excellent video. i learned a lot. but i need more detailed and advanced leraning. any suggestions how to start ? ps: you like speed :D
Glad you liked it! There are hundreds of videos on RUclips going into quite some detail - what particular area are you interested in ?
Hi Jonathan - I'm new to this so your tutorials are simply excellent. But I have an issue. I run MSFS on the Xbox series X and run LittleNavMaps (LNM) on my Mac - obviously there is no integration. When I try and follow your tutorial I am not offered the departure SID of LUXT15 in LNM. Is this because the two systems are not connected and LNM is using a different database rather than using the database from MSFS? Also in MSFS in the Cessna CJ4 I'm offered LUX15 and not LUXT15 (missing the letter T). Is this because I'm using the standard CJ and not the Working Title Mod? I guess I have this idea that there is a central database of nav points that everyone uses and plays together nicely with?
Yep - LNM is missing the latest airac data - so the procedures will all vary over time.
Hey Jonathan, when I try to put Departure or Approach it's hard to explain but for example say I want to land a KLAX and the arrival name is ANJILL2 the plane will say ANJILL4. So, if you know anything about this could you help. Thank you
That's a difference in the AIRAC data. To bring LNM up to speed with the sim, go to the scenery menu and re load the database.
@@jonbeckett the LNM doesnt let me connect to the fligth simulator.
Hey there Jonathan, what is the app you're using for navigantion
LittleNavMap.
Hola Jonathan gracias por el video es muy bueno por favor me podrias ayudar ? soy nuevo en la simulacion y no puedo ejecutar el mod del citation cj4, pues cuando lo teneia puesto ha salido la actualizacion del simulador ultima y los displais del avion salen en blanco,le he borrado el mod, del cj4 version 0.12.10 y otra vez funciona con la que trae predeterminada, pero como sabes no funcionan todos los botones,podrias darme un consejo para ver que version del mod ,podria instalar. Muchas gracias
Simplemente elimine la carpeta de modificación del título de trabajo de su carpeta de la comunidad, luego vuelva a descargarla, cópiela nuevamente e inicie el simulador nuevamente. ¡Asegúrese de que el simulador no se esté ejecutando cuando lo copie!
Can anyone help me?! This may be a great tutorial but I just want to use MSFS so set up a simple IFR flight plan, load it into the FMC, take off and get the autopilot to follow the flight plan in the FMC. I don’t want to use SimBrief or any external software. I have watched loads of videos and none seem to cover this simple process without adding loads of complexities or referring to other software. Any ideas please?!
Well... in this video I show you how to program a route into the flight management computer. The only reason I show the navigation software is because you have to get a flight plan FROM somewhere - you can't just magic it out of nowhere :)
@@jonbeckett I can set up a flight plan using the world map feature but I’m not sure I’ve loaded it into the FMC correctly nor how to set the autopilot to follow it.
Hi! I just found out that if i turn on the AP switch then the throttle is uncontrollable (stuck on 100%), is there any way to get rid of it? Thx
Only happens in citation cj4
That's going to be a controller or config issue.
After installing this mod, I'm not able to press any buttons on FMC. Any ideas?
I think it only works in "Legacy Mode" (check the cockpit interaction in the settings page)
I setup my flight the same way after landing at an airport but when i click on travel to(sim) it says no flight plan setup but my plane has the flight plan setup?
I've not been in the CJ4 for a while - I'll take a look next time I'm in it.
@@jonbeckett thanks, I'm new to simulators and the plane seems to be set to the new flight plan perfectly but the game doesn't seem to recognize the new flight plan.
What Cloud Add on are you using ? I want that ... MSFS has the worst clouds me thinks. Dont tell me that is MSFS clouds ?
Excellent video, I have used HOLD Current Speed setting in MSFS and it has worked, but cant seem to make it work in this Flight model ?
Also do you not use the FLC for speed ? You started to and then ...
There is no "Hold" current speed in the CJ4. It's accurate to the Fadec throttle system in the real aircraft. Also - no weather add-ons. I invariably fly with "live weather" switched on, which has improved throughout the life of MSFS. I can't imagine why anybody would bother with anything else.
@@jonbeckett thanks for the reply I have an add-on for clouds ,,, Frank's amazing clouds I think,,,and change the settings in the graphics options to ultra the combo is quite spectacular I'm not sure where to give the credit
Tried following your guide here, but I don't get the same results. What has changed?
Found your updated guide: ruclips.net/video/vTDz-0xRH_E/видео.html
As another commenter noted - the aircraft got updated pretty heavily by Microsoft :)
Hi Jonathan - and thanks for the vid. I'm getting stuck on entering something for the discontinuity - I'm using a local flight plan, but when I try to enter a fix as the discontinuity, I get a message saying "INVALID DELETE" and it's not accepted.
Any ideas?
It may be that you are entering a waypoint that is not in it's database.
@@androidfarmer8863 (THIS IS THE SAME AS HOW HE ADDS "TORGO" TO THE DISCONTINUITY ON HIS FPL) To add waypoints between others, I have found this to work every time (This is if you have a FPL loaded already and need to edit. If not applicable, just enter each fix as needed): Go into the "LEGS" FFK (Fixed Function Key), use the " PREV/NXT buttons to find the leg(s) you want to edit, type in the waypoint(s) you want to add, and using the LEFT SIDE buttons on your FMC, INSERT IT IN TO THE LEG YOU WANT TO OVERRIDE. For example: If your FPL is a direct route from AA - BB, and you want to add waypoint XX after AA, then, after following instructions to find the correct legs, type in XX and select BB. It should insert XX into the FPL between AA and BB. Once you hit "EXEC" FFK, your FPL should read AA - XX - BB. This can be done as many times as needed to finalize your FPL. ( You can edit multiple legs before pressing the "EXEC" FFK to add multiple or all of your new additions to the FPL.
trying to find the LUXT15 departure on Little Navmap, off of RW 15, with no luck...just me??? ( I did find the FFO9 STAR though )
Have you updated your LNM scenery database recently ?
@@jonbeckett appreciate it..I think it has something to do with the Navigraph db...( and having a subscription )????
Where do you purchased this planes
TAhe CJ4 comes with Flight Sim. The mod is a free download - Google "working title CJ4"
Thank you man, I just learned some new things, however tutorial is not correct in many ways.
Most of my tutorials are entirely functional - not representing the "correct" real-world procedures :)
If you don’t turn on Pitot Heat would the consequences be simulated?
If you go to altitude, sure - the indicated airspeed and altitude will stop working.
when i type in the origin like egll it just says working and does nothing else
That sounds like a bug. Have you tried restarting the sim? Do you have any other add-ons that might be causing problems? Have you updated the working title mod since sim update 9 ?
@@jonbeckett I did reinstall it and it kinda works like the adding flight plan by simbre8f works just other things like origin if I put egll it will just say working
@@jonbeckett I only have push pack tool and a320nx and just liveries