God the battle with Ulkair was such a pain..... Takes forever to bloody die and all that fear of him killing your brothers and having to retry the whole mission. Still wish I'd thought of using those drop pods; woulda certainly made the battle less tedious! Wouldn't call him hard to beat but jeez his stayin' power....
+Damocles178 I had same issues, had to restart 3 times and took me about 30 minutes to kill him on the third try, by far the hardest boss in the franchise.
+Nika Bakuradze I agree. Next to Ulkair Kyras was pretty easy despite potentially being the greatest threat the Blood Ravens ever faced as their very existence was at stake.. In fact you couldn't really lose against Kyras as you could easily replace whatever he destroyed.:)
+Damocles178 heh yea the only way to keep those losses down is have all of the squads rely on heavy range combat while your commander goes in for hand to hand combat.
That and he’s in a MUCH better mood after being released for real by Eliphas, albeit still weaker then the Daemon of Tartarus that had been the highest overarching evil of the series thus far.
Agreed. CR Ulkair really has that ancient forbidden demonic entity vibe dripping all over him. I sometimes kind of wished that Chaos Rising is longer when it comes to missions, giving this finale a more satisfying kick over all. Such is the ways of Nurgle. Affable and jolly but incredibly sinister and still unmistakably evil.
+BountyFlamor Thats very true people join Nurgle for reasons like that. I guess he said that because of Eliphias death not going towards releasing him unlike anyone else that was killed during this fight since Eliphias is pretty much revived shortly after. Thats probably what he meant by an offence to Nurgle and that's further complicated by Eliphias soul belonging to Abaddon.. As you know he was depending on sacrifices to be freed. I know it's not directly stated but I assume the deaths of the chaos marines count as well much like the Daemon on Tartarus who took sacrifices from loyalist and traitor alike :)
Nurgle is the chaos God of Death and Decay, he is also the God of Rebirth. After all, decay is simply one part of the cycle of life, without which no new life could grow. Nurgle doesn’t care if people want a longer life after all in the end we will all face the same end. Death. But Eliphas despite knowing this refused to accept death and bye doing that he offended Nurgle.
Yeah. That's what the devotee wants, but obviously not what Nurgle has in store for them. If they actually achieve immortality, Nurgle will be very displeased.
BountyFlamor I think that while nurgle and his daemons puts on a public face that they care about their human enemies and followers and love them, in private they hate them and don’t care about them. Because, ulkair’s dialog is really hostile, he calls Eliphas a disappointment, calls the blood ravens pathetic, outright states he hates them, publicly threatens them and the people of the subsector (and I understand that while nurgle has death and rot as his calling card and views his version of undead as rebirth and has a cycle of life and death- there is a difference between death and threatening people) and he has a general condescending attitude towards humanity as a whole- little humans indeed.
I think Ulkar is an exception among his kind. He was trapped on the planet so long that his personality twisted and warped and now he hates all life and would rather simply kill everything than go for the normal rebirth cycle. He’ll probably be like tell his is truly forced back into the depths of Warp and Nurgle can press his restart button so to speak
I did. Brought Thule along, even managed to deal the killing blow against Eliphas with him, and still got no extra dialogue. So I ask: what do they say to each other? Or is it not highlighted, just some background speech, with no subtitles and character speech icons, so I just missed it in the chaos of battle?
Last time I fought this stupid demon, he was totally wrecking me in every sense of the word. Then somehow, I snuck a demo charge under him that took out almost all his health. I was surprised when that happened...
Mostly, because Chaos is not one "friendly" force. Chaos forces try to kill each other and hate each other as much as possible. Only in special cases, such as when Abbadon begins a Black Crusade will different forces of chaos join forces. The entire squad hated more Eliphas than the Blood Ravens, that's pretty much estabilished.
They're closer to it than they are with the other dark gods - so implies Black Crusade, where they treat both Khorne and Nurgle as being opposed to both Tzeentch and Slaanesh.
Geez, how do you eliminate the Chaos forces on this map, so that you can earn redemption? I've destroyed all Chaos shrines and temples, but those damm Chaos Marines were still coming and coming (luckyly, from one point).
Well, its not bad fluff. New explosive shells cant be maked, but there is limited supply of them (well obviously not that limited :) ). So only Space marines are allowed to use them.
I honestly had to play this three times because I couldn't figure out where the fuck to go and all my allies got wasted going back and forth. It's fucking stupid that enemies continue to respawn even if you destroy the bases. Kinda poor level design and a real drag to an otherwise great expansion
And second thing... I want him in DOW3 as he said with sindri and eliphas- Ulkari-sindri-eliphas = what a great combination of enemies... my favourite characters in history of DoW :D
"Forward! Today we regain the honor of our chapter!"
*ORK theme plays in the background*
1:15
Which ork theme is it? I can't seem to find it. I thought it was Ork theme 4 but it doesn't sound the same.
*Confused WAAAGH screaming*
"You and your pathetic chapter will feel my hate agai-
... Who are you calling... What in the Plague Lord's name is a 'Grey Knight?'"
God the battle with Ulkair was such a pain..... Takes forever to bloody die and all that fear of him killing your brothers and having to retry the whole mission. Still wish I'd thought of using those drop pods; woulda certainly made the battle less tedious! Wouldn't call him hard to beat but jeez his stayin' power....
+Damocles178 I had Cyrus stay cloaked and then revive the other 3 of my squad who kept dying
+Damocles178 I had same issues, had to restart 3 times and took me about 30 minutes to kill him on the third try, by far the hardest boss in the franchise.
2x orbital bombardment on his festering ass and he is as good as dead.
+Nika Bakuradze I agree. Next to Ulkair Kyras was pretty easy despite potentially being the greatest threat the Blood Ravens ever faced as their very existence was at stake.. In fact you couldn't really lose against Kyras as you could easily replace whatever he destroyed.:)
+Damocles178 heh yea the only way to keep those losses down is have all of the squads rely on heavy range combat while your commander goes in for hand to hand combat.
All Araghast wanted was some portal for dark gods' sake, who cares about the plan anyway
I love Gabriel’s new look and voice. So full of character and experience.
damn, Ulkair really sounds scary here; by contrast, his voice acting in Retribution sounds too goofy to be scary.
JPLOWMAN2 I don’t think it’s goofy, just too guttural.
That and he’s in a MUCH better mood after being released for real by Eliphas, albeit still weaker then the Daemon of Tartarus that had been the highest overarching evil of the series thus far.
Agreed. CR Ulkair really has that ancient forbidden demonic entity vibe dripping all over him. I sometimes kind of wished that Chaos Rising is longer when it comes to missions, giving this finale a more satisfying kick over all.
Such is the ways of Nurgle. Affable and jolly but incredibly sinister and still unmistakably evil.
On a cold winter morning
In the time before the light
In flames of death's eternal reign we ride towards the fight...
Ulkair is pretty easy on corrupt, just have the damage reflecting armor, and activate Tarkus' Tactical Advance and he kills himself.
LOL
Would've loved to do that if not for Tarkus end up being the betrayal completely screwing up my squad's dynamics....
@@StarfoxHUNThis mission takes place after the betrayal mission though?
5:26 isn't the refusal to accept death the reason for most people to join Nurgle?
+BountyFlamor Thats very true people join Nurgle for reasons like that. I guess he said that because of Eliphias death not going towards releasing him unlike anyone else that was killed during this fight since Eliphias is pretty much revived shortly after. Thats probably what he meant by an offence to Nurgle and that's further complicated by Eliphias soul belonging to Abaddon.. As you know he was depending on sacrifices to be freed. I know it's not directly stated but I assume the deaths of the chaos marines count as well much like the Daemon on Tartarus who took sacrifices from loyalist and traitor alike :)
Nurgle is the chaos God of Death and Decay, he is also the God of Rebirth. After all, decay is simply one part of the cycle of life, without which no new life could grow. Nurgle doesn’t care if people want a longer life after all in the end we will all face the same end. Death. But Eliphas despite knowing this refused to accept death and bye doing that he offended Nurgle.
Yeah. That's what the devotee wants, but obviously not what Nurgle has in store for them. If they actually achieve immortality, Nurgle will be very displeased.
BountyFlamor I think that while nurgle and his daemons puts on a public face that they care about their human enemies and followers and love them, in private they hate them and don’t care about them. Because, ulkair’s dialog is really hostile, he calls Eliphas a disappointment, calls the blood ravens pathetic, outright states he hates them, publicly threatens them and the people of the subsector (and I understand that while nurgle has death and rot as his calling card and views his version of undead as rebirth and has a cycle of life and death- there is a difference between death and threatening people) and he has a general condescending attitude towards humanity as a whole- little humans indeed.
I think Ulkar is an exception among his kind. He was trapped on the planet so long that his personality twisted and warped and now he hates all life and would rather simply kill everything than go for the normal rebirth cycle. He’ll probably be like tell his is truly forced back into the depths of Warp and Nurgle can press his restart button so to speak
Also, if you bring Thuke, you get extra dialogue between him and Eliphas.
I did. Brought Thule along, even managed to deal the killing blow against Eliphas with him, and still got no extra dialogue.
So I ask: what do they say to each other? Or is it not highlighted, just some background speech, with no subtitles and character speech icons, so I just missed it in the chaos of battle?
@@zoltanhorvath7969Same
Last time I fought this stupid demon, he was totally wrecking me in every sense of the word. Then somehow, I snuck a demo charge under him that took out almost all his health. I was surprised when that happened...
2:44 WOIWOIOIOIOI
Mostly, because Chaos is not one "friendly" force. Chaos forces try to kill each other and hate each other as much as possible. Only in special cases, such as when Abbadon begins a Black Crusade will different forces of chaos join forces. The entire squad hated more Eliphas than the Blood Ravens, that's pretty much estabilished.
The only reason you would do the redemption side quest is to get one last bit of purity and make the last fight easier.
One of the most epic battles in DoW history.
FORWARD! today we go to dah WAAAAAAAAAAAAGH for da chaptah!
6:53: You’ll need a fire hot enough to roast that beef.
Killed the daemon by dropping Orbital Strikes on him and he went down easily.
@perchwong94
Aurelia IS the prison of Ulkair in itself. If you destroy the planet, you set it free almost automatically.
All who die, die for the plague lord
They're closer to it than they are with the other dark gods - so implies Black Crusade, where they treat both Khorne and Nurgle as being opposed to both Tzeentch and Slaanesh.
@Khorne676 Too true. He even says a heavily distorted version of 'Ho, ho, ho!"
BDC, I just want to say you are so badass. I love you man.
Is it just me, or does Ulkair sound more... brutal here?
@RockyX456 Because it's not in the game. But they will be in the next expansion, Retribution.
They don't call that green bloated giant Ulkar the big boss for nothing!
@RockyX456 If they're anything like the Blood Angels, its probably because they keep dropping them out of the sky.
One person is Ulkair himself.
To save the blood ravens do you just attack with them or do you do something else?
@britboyal Tarkus and Martellus.
@JPLOWMAN2 well because 10 years later he is in aurelia eating potatoe chips and spleens from cultists
Why can't we have Land Raiders? :(
Which Blood Raven character gets corrupted to carry on to dow retribution
Avitus
Ulkair: "OwO what is this?"
this battle remins me of avatar in dawn of war 2 he was strong too i retreadet to the becon 3 times becuse of hes sun boom
@britboyal Thats a good question, who says anyones lines if they are corrupt for that matter /: l
Why couldn't they have just bombed the Aurelia from orbit?Didn't they have the Litany of Fury?
It would be easy for him to avoid it...
What if Eliphas returns, now a Daemon Prince of the Black Legion in DOW3?
Ken Lenard Navarro im pretty sure hes failed too many times for anyone to resurrect him.
BOOOOONESTOOOORM
How the heck do you enter the "Keep" half of this level? The one with Ulkair, so that you can finish this?
who says Jonah's lines if he is corrupt?
wish my dawn of war was as fast as that its very slow on my computer :(
And of Avitus for when he is the traitor according to the canon?
Geez, how do you eliminate the Chaos forces on this map, so that you can earn redemption? I've destroyed all Chaos shrines and temples, but those damm Chaos Marines were still coming and coming (luckyly, from one point).
5:18
@Khorne676 Ulkair Claus: Ho Ho ho, what is this? More children? You should visit me. I have gifts for one and all of you.
@AteZ928 This is his second death, as far as we know.
@RockyX456
Too poor to have any...on our recruiting worlds.
Well, its not bad fluff. New explosive shells cant be maked, but there is limited supply of them (well obviously not that limited :) ). So only Space marines are allowed to use them.
How do I reduce the blood raven loss?
Ik it's like 4 years too late but the way I do it is just travel with the main strike force until they finish off all the chaos forces
I honestly had to play this three times because I couldn't figure out where the fuck to go and all my allies got wasted going back and forth. It's fucking stupid that enemies continue to respawn even if you destroy the bases. Kinda poor level design and a real drag to an otherwise great expansion
Playing on easy difficulty is lol
That's on easy
DoW IS on steam....
And second thing... I want him in DOW3 as he said with sindri and eliphas- Ulkari-sindri-eliphas = what a great combination of enemies... my favourite characters in history of DoW :D
Fighting him, just 10 times retreated... lol
even Spike spiegel couldn't rape him so easily.