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Leo Fender's Most Modern Bass Design? - G&L L1000 & L2000 Basses
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» 0:00 Intro Jam
» 1:39 What Are We Looking At?
» 8:45 Specs & Features
» 14:50 Some Tones from the L-1000
» 18:45 A Look at the L-2000
» 27:45 Final Overview
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The most overlooked brand in he world; Leo always said it was his final word and the ultimate development of his instruments..
Honestly, these basses have the best tone out of any bass I’ve ever played. They’re very underrated and I don’t understand why because they’re phenomenal basses
Sometimes I forget how much of a fire player Nathan is, fantastic playing
He keeps it in the family
Especially when you consider the fact that he’s the rhythm guitarist in his older brother, Mark King’s band. He’s a fantastic musician in his own right for sure!
Check out his bass playing on albums by the band *Frost (last 4 albums).He’s a great backing vocalist too.
I played so many basses over the last 30 years. G&L L-2500 is still my favorite horse. What a beast. Better P-bass tone than most P-basses.
I bought a L2000 in 1984 and it always fit the bill for years of gigging. Still have it today.
How’s the low B on that bass? There’s a used tribute L-2500 in my area that I’ve got my sights set on
Totally agree. My US L2500 is such a beautiful instrument. The tones available are incredible and it works beautifully live. B string is very musical and consistent with the other 4. Very underrated instruments
@@pauljacques2278 My Big Chonks is out for delivery this morning....looking forward to it.
@@leagueofotters2774Big Chonks, or the 750 series is the bees knees! How are you feeling about it now that you’ve had it for a while?
I lovebhow Nathan asks questions like he has no clue about anything to do with bass, just to make everyone feel better ,knowing damn well he knows all the answers lol 😆
Walked into a pawn shop the other day and found an all original road worn 84 L2000. Probably the best sounding bass I've ever played
How are the prices in a pawn shop compared to the store, there in the US?
Agreed. The early G&L L2000 basses with the "slot head" MFD adjustable pick up pole pieces, just sounded incredible.
14:48 L-1000
15:40 Precision
19:33 L-2000
24:00 Tribute (Indonesian, quality and tone 💯)
I recently switched from a Squier Vintage Modified V jazz bass to a G&L Tribute L-2500....and am contently staying with the holy grail of basses. 😉
Thanks for the wonderful review and all the hard work. I bought the tribute L2000 and it is a dream of a bass. Much love from Canada.
This video doesn't have enough likes. Great review, comparison, demo and fantastic banter that keeps you laughing yet still engaged. Great job, chaps.
I'm from Fullerton originally. Off Fender Avenue there was a bar called the Fender Bender as well.
I’ve read the Fender didn’t actually sue G&L over the headstock design but stated they intended to and Leo changed the headstock because he didn’t want to deal with it.
He really went off on that riff! I have to try G&L. That bass looks awesome and sounds magical...thanks.
Nathan brought his A game today, probably digs the shiny new G&L basses. Great job.
25:15 *"...a 3-way. a 2-way. and a 3-way... It's the most incredible weekend you ever had"*
Everyone laughing in the background is great, haha!
Probably played 500 gigs on my L2000 tribute as a house rhythm section for Engles Pub in Edmonds, Wa. Lots of players brought their basses and plugged straight in. I would almost always have to turn the Amp up to compesate for lower pickup output.. I'm replacing the volume pot as after 8 years it's really scratchy. The poles in the neck pickup are quite rusty from my hand always being there. Just needs a little restore. It's a very solid powerful and flexible sounding bass. I would love to have the 5 string.
I’m a recent G&L convert. Bought a black M2000 Tribute, loved it so much I went back and bought a Sunburst one as well. G&L tone is killer and my M2000’s are all I gig with now.
I bought a 2500 tribute thanks to this video and I’m more than happy. Thanks guys!
G&L basses are awesome. My brother has one of the 2000 series, what a phenomenally made guitar.
Chill down, mate. You said bass then guitar. I know you're excited but slow down a bit. Grab a nice can of cold beer first
Always Enjoy Listening to the two of you Play.. (As Someone who's Been at it for a Few Decades..) you guys wipe the Floor with most of the Others with your bass demos..(They really Should Study you two as to What and What Not to Do!!)
Beastly great playing... As usual.
I loved that deep dive into Leo's greatest hits! Thanks, Lee :)
I love that black G&L!!! I love thT active treble boost!!!😍
I love my 1982 G&L L-2000E! The originals had a 3 bolt neck with tilt feature so I’m surprised they are calling these reissues. But they got the headstock right. The extra point headstock debuted on the 1983 G-200. Leo probably got a letter from Fender complaining that his headstock design was too similar to theirs. Mine is the original and much nicer!
My middle switch is a coil split and sounds much better in single coil mode. My favorite setting is both pickups on, in single coil mode with the Preamp engaged with treble boost on. They gave us a passive mode so that if our battery dies we can still play! I love my G&L!!!
I wish they offer that headstock as an option on all there custom shop builds.
Gentlemen, i would like to complement your on your commentary in all of your videos. Very entertaining and informative. Thank you from the U.S.A.
Sensational playing Nathan.
The L1000 natural is the best looking and best sound for me but the 2000 has some variety and the Tribute is awesome for the price shame it's not in natural. Good vid as always Nath
I bought a sunburst 5 string L-1000 about a year ago because I wanted to try a passive bass and I don’t plan on ever going back to active. That MFD pick up is a beast
Yeah I can't believe more professionals and people don't play g&l they are awesome bases and guitars I haven't tried any of the tributes out yet.
That tribute model sounded amazing
I really wish you had included the Kiloton in this conversation. It’s its own beast
I’ve played FJB and Musicman 5 string my entire life but I have such a crush on these G&L’s. No one ever talks about these and it’s not many players go-to bass. O
Lee, Nathan is right Early 70's jazz basses had a 3 bolt neck joint with the abomination that was 'micortilt' they are quite sought after by some, including Marcus Millers his most famous jazz is a 3 bolt neck version. In addition the first year and a half or so of Musicman stingrays are also 3 bolt necks before moving to a 4 bolt. Finally the original L1000 and 2000 G&L themselves were 3 bolt. Geeky, but interesting.
My 84 L2000 is three bolt. Still a beast. Used it for a country rock audition last week, and a quiet church gig this week. The trick is to pull the volume back a bit.
Thats all the neck needs for stability anyway
Love those! The black one definitely has a bit of that Music Man vibe!!! :)
Love, love, love my CLF L2500. Got to be one of the most sonically versatile, lightweight, smooth playing, sexy basses ever made. I've been playing bass/guitar for 30 years but still can't put this baby down. Their custom shop is quite reasonable as well.
Thinking about a semi-hollow body ASAT bass w/ebony board..🎸🎶
That is badass, the bass and the player!
🎶 Aaaamazing bass...how sweet the sound 🎶
I'm more of a guitarist myself but I do have a 5 string "Tribute" i.e. Indonesian G&L M Series bass for recording and a few gigs here and there. I must say I'm very impressed with the sound and the electronics. The 18V electronics are killer and the EQ is super effective. I've had, on many occasions, listeners or sound guys ask about how I was able to radically change the tone of the bass.
That does it. I think I’m going to buy a G&L. That solo at the start was awesome 👏🏻😎🎸🙏🇦🇺
Did u get one!?!
@@bassimprovjams3772 I bought a Music Man Big Al as one had come up for sale. My next one coming is a G&L L2000. Already picked out neck size, colour etc. It will take a few months to arrive. Can't wait.
@@bassimprovjams3772 Yes, I first ended up buying a L-1000. I loved it so much I went and bought a L-2000. That’s absolutely my favourite Bass 💯⭐️🎊👏🏻
Number 1, love the videos guys keep it up
"The down position is the quarter pounder WITH CHEESE!" 😅🤣👌🏻 love all these dudes!
Love the L2000 Have the tele neck and body in flaming dragon red and also have the fat neck tribute... both exact same gear but tribute sounds darker.
Superb Slap Tone at the beginning..
Those CLF basses are so damn beautiful. G&L is awesome!
My main bass is a L-2000e from the early 80sIt's a beast !I also love the SB-2
Fantastic history lesson from the Captain, delivered with grace and poise despite continuous interjections from matey boy on left!
The pole pieces on my G&L 2000 have frozen up. But its fine, I drop my pick ups down fairly low and that creates a darker tone, and greatly balances out the string volumes.
Nice review. Tho not much was said about the special pickup design.
Great change concerning the headstock !
god damn finally!
I know, the other one looks like it's had a bite taken out of it lmao
electrofreddy just on the CLF models
G&L was sued by Fender for using a Fender-style headstock. Supposedly that pointy bit was added to be like a middle finger to Fender. Seems as they're aping the Fender headstock again but with a smoother shape.
I love the old headstock mix of fender and Musicman
Ned Steinberger designed the Spector Bass. And the Warwick Streamer. He worked for spector first and then consulted for warwick second and the first year or two of warwick streamers were the exact shape of spectors, but then warwick slightly changed the top horn due to a cease and desist and made an original bridge for it.
It's called a concave carve back and it's one of the most comfortable bass designs of all time.
Ned steinberger obviously also pioneered headless necks on bass and guitars.
His brand of basses and uprights are fantastic.
It's always a pleasure to watch Nathan play, and the other Lee when he's there.
I like the original shapes G&L have brought out. I'd rather have any of those than a better copy of the old Fender designs. Then again, I also like the old designs and would rather have them in the modernised G&L versions, so…
Series - single coil and series with a capacitor behind bank 2 pole pieces. Means it will be darker giving the bass a sub bass heavey sound.
The guy that designed the Spector bass would be Ned Steinberger. That's why the Spector models are all NS-fill in the blank. Stuart Spector licensed the design to Warwick, for their streamer. Apparently they stopped paying the licensing fee, which led to the lawsuit.
Bonus round, there were three bolt Jazz basses, but I believe the Precision basses stayed four bolt.
Lee Jacobson loving those facts!
I am glad that I am not the only person commenting to fill in the gaps.
precisions & telecasters stayed four-screw. jazzers & strats were three. I checked the patents, & the three-screw fixing with microtilt came from leo. my 1981 L1000 was four-screw with microtilt.
I own a tribute 2000 for little short than 2 months and I am sure I can recognise it's " thumping" with closed eyes
These sound dope.
Nevermind Fenders, a lot of the original G&L basses had 3-bolt necks
Go on Nathan !
I've got a L2000; 2005 coming home today actually.. I've got a question for Nathan... Was he inspired by Mark King? There's something about his style that reminds me of early 42, albeit Nathan still has a bit to go, a bit slower and not as much a Showman than Mark. Regardless, his Tone and skill is AWESOME. Love your channel Boys, from Canada, and the hometown of RUSH.
I see no one has answered your question & I'll (respectfully) say that I take it that you didn't or don't know that " Nathan aka Nate is Mark Kings Younger Brother Nathan King!..
Nate has played with Level 42 as their Lead/Rythmn Guitarist & Backing Singer since 2001 up to the present day...
I've seen Nate play Live along with his (older Brother) Mark King many times in the past & they are still one of my all time favourite bands who sound & play better Live...
You'll find Nate on all of the Recorded Live DVD Concerts since 2001 onwards & you'll find him playing on here in RUclips uploads of those concert's or guest appearances at festivals & such...
The King brother's are both extremely talented as Mark King started out on drums before switching over to playing bass guitar & his style of playing bass guitar comes from Mark playing the bass guitar more like how a drummer would use their drum Kit & Mark has instead developed his style of playing out those drum beats out the bass guitar...
Level 42 have constantly & consistently been an ongoing Live Band since they first formed in the late 70s & Tour practically every year...
I know they're playing in my City (Glasgow Scotland) at the Glasgow Royal Concert Hall on Wednesday the 7th of October 2020...
You should go & see them Live if they are Touring Canada as they are all truly exceptional musicians & Level 42 (of course) have a back catalogue of greatest hits & also their earlier recordings & tracks from all of their other album's to play live...
So theres no shortage of great songs to hear them play Live...
Just type in a search online for either the Official Level 42 Website or type in where are & how many Live Concerts are Level 42 booked to play in 2020...
I hope this has been of help & All The Best for Over The Christmas & New Year period...
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the l2000 is the most versatile and comfortable bass ive ever owned!
Be interesting to hear Nathan play some oh his brothers stuff.
Man, Nathan was ripp'n it. G&L bass A+
Kinda hard to hear what things sound like when you're just playing as many notes as possible though.
He was tearing up the dance floor with that L2000 that’s for sure 👍🏼👏🏻🎶🇦🇺
You would think he was in Level 42 or something
His Brother is
@@stefanherbst9980nathans their guitarist rn aswell
love games? wkwk
These are really more versatile and widest spectrum of any bass on the market...a true workhouse and best value of all. This is the one bass to get if you just get one. I have 2!!!
Slapped like!
All I use is G&L. Wouldn’t mind a fender P to shut people up, but I’ll always reach for my G&L’s.
Man thank God for LEO!!!!, here's a stingray, grabs a sterling 😆
the natural look is a killer
25:15 is the funniest guitar pun I have ever heard in this channel ✌️😂
Lol, Best weekend ever!
Love my G&L...
Hey there.
Is there anything in the pipeline to Demo the latest MLB1 Pro line. I have searched the web but come up short. Cheers
The wiring, switching, pickups, and pots on those basses are unbelievable. You can get any tone you want.
Oh my god!..A new Headstock design!!!!👌👍...the old one was a reason for me over25j.to NOT buy
some G&L!...but now they look cool!!!..mabey i'll buy myself one😉🤟
It is the original headstock - not the new one. Think they changed to the eye gouger when Fender kicked up a bit so ....all current G&L basses less these 'reissues' have the eye gouger.
That intro jam was awesome, it reminds me of something Les Claypool would do
Switches seem to have the same function in both US and Tribute models: "Tri-Tone™ system with 3-position pickup selector, series/parallel switch, 3-position pre-amp mode switch, volume, treble, bass" (from the G&L web site).
There is no coil split, only series/parallel, which is the two-way switch.
Wiring a humbucker in parallel is one step further than splitting it in that it quarters the global inductance of the pick-up, which results in even more high ends than the split version would have while preserving the added complexity of picking up vibrations from about 2cm apart along the strings. It also preserves the "hum bucking" effect.
A parallel humbucker has a comparable output level to its split version and about half that of the series wiring.
do any of the fvll-price L-2000z come with an ebony fingerboard or only the Tributez?
Was wondering what are the major differences between tribute and the standard?
Dude can play!
They were indeed 3 bolt necks in the 80's with a micro-tilt adjustment.
I have a 1981 L1000 # 105. Nothing can come close to the sound and playability of this guitar
The shame is that I prefer the non chrome switchplate more simple appearance of the tribute models. Why would a front rout look better?
Frickin' Leo! What a genius!
actually the precision bass as shown in 8:52 was introduced in late 1957, since 1951 up to that point the precision bass was quite different with another pickguard, a single coil pickup and no body contours
All American hardware on the tribute series as far as I’m aware!
Lovely review, mates. CLF. It stands for Crazy Loud F@ckers!
The original musicman saber bass is the precursor to all the g&l’s. How different do they play
The late 70s era MM Sabre certainly was the aesthetic precursor to the G&L L2000. Very similar (if not the same) body shape, and the control plate with the mini toggle switches. The G&L Bridge is also an evolution of the Sabre bridge.
That being said, what the switches and controls actually do on each bass is not at all the same, merely a similar layout. All the pickups have in common is that they are both Humbuckers
Ever seen Best in Show? Nathan is Fred Willard in that movie.
Any ASAT basses?
Definitely think Nathan should be called, "The Guvnur"! :D
A quick mention about the early 80's L-1000's and L-2000's is that many of them have mahogany bodies, and are RIDICULOUSLY heavy, and sound utterly amazing. Sadly, that is no longer an option, but they're still incredible instruments.
How can you tell?
@@analytics8055 What do you mean "How can you tell?"? How can I tell what? The sound of 80's L-1000's and L-2000's vs newer, or the weight or what? I don't understand your question. Read my previous response. My first bass was a Wunkay from 1981. Serial B003***. I modded the hell out of it. Someone had already replaced the MFD with a Seymour 1/4 Pounder P and some cheesy Yamaha blade single coil in the rear. I kept the Seymour and replaced the rear pickup with a Bartolini triple-coil that I had Bill and Pat custom spin to my specs. The guts were long gone so I had my luthier do up a custom EQ built around a Bartolini TCT system. It was pretty far from stock, but the wood, the joints and the hardware shaped the tone, and that became very obvious when running in passive (bypassing everything except the volume knob and pickup selector switch). No other instrument sounded quite like it, but I've played a couple of old L-2000 Series-E's from the same era, with mahogany bodies and maple boards, and especially in passive mode, the tones are not completely dissimilar. So does that answer your question?
Nice sounding basses
Yeah those headstocks are a MILLION times better. Put those on the guitars and I bet sales would double. The old ones just look too...let's say...ORGANIC.
These Andertons vids I do like. Two knowledgeable gentleman, good chemistry and playing, the opposite of which would be of course two uninformed boys trying to be funny, playing pentatonics. Thanks Nathan and Lee!
"I'm getting better!" (The Holy Grail)
I think I would quite like a Tribute version of the 1000.
Fender American Deluxe HH. Best modern design for Fender. I have 4 G&L's and love them, but the Dimension is better.
All interesting stuff. The basses you have there are Musicman Sabre basses more or less. There is nothing that Leo hasn't used before.
Dingwall is also doing some good things with the bass!
But they're bank breakers as well
Just a quick comment on the Wunkay, Lee mentions the weight is lower than a Music Man or Fender, and that is actually quite a new development. I had a Wunkay from 1980, maple neck, mahogany body, and that thing was FAR heavier then either of the former. Sadly, I don't think G&L are offering mahogany as an optional body wood at this juncture, but it never hurts to ask them directly. I played the new CLF's at NAMM this year, and they are definitely HIGHLY reminiscent of the originals, and after my CLF L-2500 is back up and operational, I think I see a CLF Tookay in my future, with the single coil option on it.
Also, my Wunkay had a 3-bolt neck joint, with an allen bolt micro-tilt adjustment. The new ones have to have the neck removed and shimmed if you want to add a tilt to the neck (which I do recommend for best action across the entirety of the fretboard).
@@N0B0DY_SP3C14L shimming the neck is only recommended if you can't get the action low enough with the saddles, the height you want that is (mine is usually around 1.5mm to 1.00mm at the 12th fret, pretty low). Otherwise, there's absolutely no need to shim the neck, nor do you get any advantage of doing it what so ever.
i have a modern day clf with the swamp ash body i had no idea the original was mahogany ! my gibson eb3 is mahogany but that thing is tiny so it’s light. i’m really curious how those original l2000s sounded. mahogany doesn’t seem very fender so that is super neat to me
“For whatever reason” = the Ball family starved out George and Leo because they wanted to shift Music Man to being a guitar and bass manufacturer.