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I got mine in the mail today...never flown a heli in real life before. Did ok on the sim so I figured I'd be fine. So...I've now been a helicopter pilot for roughly 20 seconds. About 15 of those seconds were spent in panic. I have ordered three metal gear servos. A new tail assembly. New landing gear and frame. New main shafts....basically I ordered almost every single piece...because as I picked it up off the ground they were easy to identify one by one as they sort of dangled in the wind on the way back into my house. That sucked....a lot. Lmao. So ty for the video cause I am obviously in way over my head.
I've watched this video multiple times since release. Today for the first time I noticed the googly eyes on the thumbnail for it. All I can say is that exactly sums up my experience with the k130 LOL. Thanks for the chuckle John!
Great reviews John, and thanks for all your flight school tips. Learning proper unstabilised heli flight has probably been the most difficult thing I've ever done, at one stage I nearly gave up as I thought I'd never get to the stage of actually flying a circuit. With practicing the steps you outlined it eventually clicked (slow learner LOL!), and it was a revelation to become comfortable with high speed backyard flying, surfing on wind gusts etc. Enjoyed watching your reviews of the K110 and K130. Unfortunately the 130 didn't live up to the great standards of it's little brother. Just done my first 2S 110 conversion, looks like a fun compromise on performance. Thanks again!
Hey John I wish I had a buddy like you… You're smart you're good at what you do your good thinker… Your video was stunning and surprising and fantastic at the same time… I learned a few things. Mostly I just thought you were amazing. I Use to fly helicopters many years Ago I never went 3-D… I would do loops roles simple things and I could bring them home every day mostly… I was quite successful then I quit and now my friend gave me the Blade nano S 3… And it's really fun that's what brought me here… Truthfully I wouldn't buy this helicopter it's what you said not my style… If I was going to go into an outdoor machine I would buy maybe a T Rex something with a great reputation. And considering how they explode you might as well go a little larger for outdoors for the stability… But anyway I'm just here to say your amazing this is the coolest video I think I've ever seen in my entire life… And you're an expert pilot
That's what my XK130 looks like, knackered.Could fix it though if I invested in a new mainboard and controller. I just brought the XK110 instaed and bound it to my X6.Better Heli in many ways.
Love your channel! It's really a shame XK shifted away from the packaging they used on the K100, K110, K120, K123, and the K124 I felt that really gave it some extra value plus it really helped organize things! when I saw this unboxing the experience really just felt cheap to me which is a shame because I really like XK
Lol 5:37! Thats classic. Mine is on the shelf now. You just sniff the grass and they break Yeah the Eachine and especially the OMPs are way better now.
Interesting... I got a150x and never got it tuned in. About the 6th flight ended in a crash, gave up cause it flew so poorly and bought an xk110. The 110 has been a great Heli just like v977. Good review, I enjoy the your videos.
I had the same issue with the landing skids. First flight out I came down a little hard and cracked two legs on one side. I repaired them with Gorilla glue clear and that did the trick. I saw the end of the video where you show the settings. I'm using the X6 radio that came with the K130 and don't understand the values you use on your radio. I'd like to set it up for more tame flying until I get enough practice.
Taming any CP heli down consists of 4 basic steps: 1. Reduce the collective range (pitch curve programming). 2. Reduce the power output / lower head speeds (throttle curve programming). 3. Reduce throw of all 3 primary flight control channels to both tame response and increase stick resolution: tail rotor & cyclic (rudder, aileron, elevator). 4. Use exponential on your 3 flight control channels if you still find mid stick response too aggressive after taming down cyclic & tail with dual rates (dual rate reduction on its own reduces mid stick response a fair amount). The X6 like Futaba's radios uses negative expo to flatten mid stick response, not positive like most others (including the Horus radio I showed the values for in this video). I cover all that and much more including micro CP setup in my setup & tips eBook: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-helicopter-tips.html I also just finished an XK K110 review where I talk about taming the setup and list some values for the X6 radio which you may get some info out of: ruclips.net/video/2yIB2-KSZyk/видео.html I also just put up an X6 radio review where I go over all the settings but you likely know all that stuff already. Here's the link if you'er interested: ruclips.net/video/lzW9m8899Tk/видео.html
That thing looks really difficult to see. I hate flying mini helicopters in the wind. I bought a Blade mCPX BL2 a week ago but haven’t flown it outside yet because of the wind here in central Texas. My wife is getting tired of me zipping around the living room. I am really liking your Horus. I have been solid Spektrum since the original DX7. Using a DX9 now. I am perfectly happy with it but I like the flexibility and the looks of the Horus. Seems a really reasonable price too.
Hot indeed, Sir. Have flown a relatives & found it a hard to see the lil beast. Will take your knowledgeable suggestion now, that im just getting chummy with the K120. I still want one thou lol
you crashed it about as hard as I did on my first flight.. super cool lil heli. my first 1. I thrashed the main gear and esc board. ordered n waiting to do it again. (less the crash hopefully)
Neither. If you are looking for a micro size collective pitch heli to learn on and one that is fairly robust that will survive most impacts, the XK K110 would be my top pick. It's not overly powerful, it's well suited for beginners, and it's light along with being 1S powered so it doesn't release too much energy in a crash. Here's my review on it: ruclips.net/video/2yIB2-KSZyk/видео.html Both the K130 & E160 will usually break something in a moderate crash due to having both more mass, more spinning rotor mass, and thus more energy release when crashing. Out of the two however, the E160 is by far the clear choice in my opinion. If you already have some CP flying experiance already & don't crash much anymore, then of course the E160 would be okay. My best RC helicopter page on my website may also help further if you are considering your first CP heli - it goes into much more detail of choosing your first CP heli: www.rchelicopterfun.com/best-rc-helicopter.html
Holy cow! Beautiful country right outside your door! Love your videos! How were you able to use your FrSky transmitter? I know you mentioned the possibility of multi compatibility, but maybe I missed something? Thanks!
Hi John. What is the purpose of the button on top of the rotor head, I bought mine used, and it did not have that part, do you think it will effect how it flies?
Hi Joe, Head buttons are mostly decoration. Lack of one won't have any impact on flight. Head buttons do offer a little bit of head & blade grip protection when hovering inverted very close to the ground for those that like to mow the grass or sweep the asphalt with their egg beaters. 🙃
The pinion has likely come loose on the shaft; they are held on with Loctite 648/similar bearing retaining compound. You may be able to pull the pinion the remainder the way off (to re-loctite it on), or pull up on the motor can to remove the pinion. The can is held on by the pinion on the bottom. There is also a small brass spacer collar between the pinion the lower motor bearing so make sure you don't lose it in the process and refit when you refit the pinion back on. You could try to just push the pinion back up on the shaft of course, but if it has moved down on the shaft, the retaining compound is not longer holding it and it will soon move down on the shaft again or just start spinning on the shaft whenever a torque spike hits.
I haven't tried to plug a dsmx satellite RX into it so I don't know how or even if it can be done. I only made mention of it because I saw it in the instructions.
I have Syma F3 (4CH) before and it is bit difficult to fly for me. Does this one is twice ore more difficult than mine as it is 6CH and Hobbygrade? Also does it is withstand on the wind?
Collective pitch is a totally different ball game from fixed pitch (yes much harder to fly). This is also not a good CP heli to learn on in my opinion. The XK K110 is much better suited for beginners and learning. Here's my review on it: ruclips.net/video/2yIB2-KSZyk/видео.html Collective pitch handles wind much better than fixed pitch, but keep in mind micro/small RC helicopters with little mass and small rotor area are never going to be able to handle large amounts of wind like a larger collective pitch RC heli. If you want lots of wind handling ability, best to join an RC heli club, get a bigger machine (500 or larger), and get one on one instruction from an instructor.
You shouldn't of zip tied the battery wire to the landing skiddz man. The weight of the battery an inersha pulled the esc apart had no let go points.an I wouldn't even used that xt connected. Maybe a thick gauge jst.
The LiPo battery cable is not zipped to the landing skids, the ESC power cable is! That is done at the factory, I never put that zip tie in place if you watched the video , it was like that out of the box. When the battery went flying during the impact, it pulled the ESC wiring and that's what pulled the landing struts out. If the ESC power wires were not zip ties to the landing struts, the ESC would have still been torn from the frame, and perhaps even more damage would have been done to it. Some of the energy was absorbed by first tearing out the landing strut pins after all. If the ESC wiring was however zipped to a stronger part of the frame instead of the landing struts, that might have helped?
Thank you. unfortunately i start to think that it is an hardware problem and not a software problem, since i already tried the latest firmwares and the outer module never lights up
I've tried that and it doesn't work nearly as well as hot glue. Epoxy doesn't stick well to this type of plastic and it doesn't flex like hot glue does.
Also too heavy. Keep it stock plastic. The plastic main gear is also a good mechanical fuse to protect the motor & pinion gear, while saving weight and money.
I'm just returning my K110S. Same problem. The plastic is terrible quality. They built an awesome heli and used poorest quality plastic for the parts. As if using nylon would affect their cost too much. 😂😂
hi John i'm getting frustated trying to tame this heli, the motor easly gets sooo hot it booted the system during flight, do you have any suggestion? I had 7 other heli most of them walkera , wltoys and one mcpx, all have never acting up like xk k130.
Dear John, Woould u pls tell me what is the Expo and D/R values of this XK 130 ??? Where can I find it ? I need to set up my previous RTF XK110 radio for XK130 BNF. Pls help. I follow yr RUclips ch, exception is I m not a 3D guy. ;-) . Thanks
I go over all my setting at the end of the video starting @ 18:50 including my dual and expo rates for aileron, elevator, and rudder (cyclic & tail rotor). I follow exactly what I outline in my setup & tips ebook for all collective pitch RC helicopters for various flying styles.
@@Rchelicopterfun , Ok 👌..thanks for replying. Yr personal radio mby a bit different than the stock Xk130 one , in terms of Expo negetive or possitive . For exp, my Blade 130 S or other heli has possitive Expo , where as XK110 , 123 use negetive expo. So, my Spectrum radio expo & Xk radio expo is not same abt the possitive n negetive. Sorry for wrong english.
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When you idled up I like how the controller said shit is about to get real
I got mine in the mail today...never flown a heli in real life before. Did ok on the sim so I figured I'd be fine. So...I've now been a helicopter pilot for roughly 20 seconds. About 15 of those seconds were spent in panic.
I have ordered three metal gear servos. A new tail assembly. New landing gear and frame. New main shafts....basically I ordered almost every single piece...because as I picked it up off the ground they were easy to identify one by one as they sort of dangled in the wind on the way back into my house. That sucked....a lot. Lmao. So ty for the video cause I am obviously in way over my head.
I've watched this video multiple times since release. Today for the first time I noticed the googly eyes on the thumbnail for it. All I can say is that exactly sums up my experience with the k130 LOL. Thanks for the chuckle John!
12:08 voice >> "shit is about to get real" LOLOF
Great reviews John, and thanks for all your flight school tips. Learning proper unstabilised heli flight has probably been the most difficult thing I've ever done, at one stage I nearly gave up as I thought I'd never get to the stage of actually flying a circuit. With practicing the steps you outlined it eventually clicked (slow learner LOL!), and it was a revelation to become comfortable with high speed backyard flying, surfing on wind gusts etc. Enjoyed watching your reviews of the K110 and K130. Unfortunately the 130 didn't live up to the great standards of it's little brother. Just done my first 2S 110 conversion, looks like a fun compromise on performance. Thanks again!
*flips switch* "shits bout to get real" i broke up laughing
Lol turning on idle up mode 2 voice was great. "Shits about to get real" I died. 😂😂😂😂
Shit got real indeed hahahaha
First thing I had to order, landing gear from micro heli. Always felt the tail was a bit too quick the rest was fine.
RC is life❤️ thanks for the review.. keep safe everyone
🇵🇭
Hey John I wish I had a buddy like you… You're smart you're good at what you do your good thinker… Your video was stunning and surprising and fantastic at the same time… I learned a few things. Mostly I just thought you were amazing. I Use to fly helicopters many years Ago I never went 3-D… I would do loops roles simple things and I could bring them home every day mostly… I was quite successful then I quit and now my friend gave me the Blade nano S 3… And it's really fun that's what brought me here… Truthfully I wouldn't buy this helicopter it's what you said not my style… If I was going to go into an outdoor machine I would buy maybe a T Rex something with a great reputation. And considering how they explode you might as well go a little larger for outdoors for the stability… But anyway I'm just here to say your amazing this is the coolest video I think I've ever seen in my entire life… And you're an expert pilot
That's what my XK130 looks like, knackered.Could fix it though if I invested in a new mainboard and controller.
I just brought the XK110 instaed and bound it to my X6.Better Heli in many ways.
Love your channel! It's really a shame XK shifted away from the packaging they used on the K100, K110, K120, K123, and the K124 I felt that really gave it some extra value plus it really helped organize things! when I saw this unboxing the experience really just felt cheap to me which is a shame because I really like XK
Lol 5:37! Thats classic. Mine is on the shelf now. You just sniff the grass and they break Yeah the Eachine and especially the OMPs are way better now.
:)
Interesting... I got a150x and never got it tuned in. About the 6th flight ended in a crash, gave up cause it flew so poorly and bought an xk110. The 110 has been a great Heli just like v977. Good review, I enjoy the your videos.
Love the Chanel for honest reviews and advised thanks for shearing.
Thanks for watching 🙂
I had the same issue with the landing skids. First flight out I came down a little hard and cracked two legs on one side. I repaired them with Gorilla glue clear and that did the trick. I saw the end of the video where you show the settings. I'm using the X6 radio that came with the K130 and don't understand the values you use on your radio. I'd like to set it up for more tame flying until I get enough practice.
Taming any CP heli down consists of 4 basic steps:
1. Reduce the collective range (pitch curve programming).
2. Reduce the power output / lower head speeds (throttle curve programming).
3. Reduce throw of all 3 primary flight control channels to both tame response and increase stick resolution: tail rotor & cyclic (rudder, aileron, elevator).
4. Use exponential on your 3 flight control channels if you still find mid stick response too aggressive after taming down cyclic & tail with dual rates (dual rate reduction on its own reduces mid stick response a fair amount). The X6 like Futaba's radios uses negative expo to flatten mid stick response, not positive like most others (including the Horus radio I showed the values for in this video).
I cover all that and much more including micro CP setup in my setup & tips eBook: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-helicopter-tips.html
I also just finished an XK K110 review where I talk about taming the setup and list some values for the X6 radio which you may get some info out of: ruclips.net/video/2yIB2-KSZyk/видео.html
I also just put up an X6 radio review where I go over all the settings but you likely know all that stuff already. Here's the link if you'er interested: ruclips.net/video/lzW9m8899Tk/видео.html
@@Rchelicopterfun Awesome, thanks so much! ....and for the quick response.
That thing looks really difficult to see. I hate flying mini helicopters in the wind. I bought a Blade mCPX BL2 a week ago but haven’t flown it outside yet because of the wind here in central Texas. My wife is getting tired of me zipping around the living room. I am really liking your Horus. I have been solid Spektrum since the original DX7. Using a DX9 now. I am perfectly happy with it but I like the flexibility and the looks of the Horus. Seems a really reasonable price too.
Hot indeed, Sir. Have flown a relatives & found it a hard to see the lil beast. Will take your knowledgeable suggestion now, that im just getting chummy with the K120. I still want one thou lol
you crashed it about as hard as I did on my first flight.. super cool lil heli. my first 1. I thrashed the main gear and esc board. ordered n waiting to do it again. (less the crash hopefully)
awesome flying mate!!
Thank you so much for sharing. Very informative.I'm getting one soon. Thanks friend. Happy flying.
John,
I have 2 XK helis, the scale ones. As far as the batteries go they are reversed from the normal batts we usually use in other brand helis.
Not so with the K130. The positive wire of the lipo is going to the positive post of the XT30 connector. Balance plug is also conventional.
@@Rchelicopterfun That's good news, I don't like the batt setup on both the K123, and K124 helis.
Great repair idea. I'll try it for sure.
Great video! Thanks!! Which helicopter do you consider is better (easier to fly) for a beginner? This one or Eachine E160?
Neither. If you are looking for a micro size collective pitch heli to learn on and one that is fairly robust that will survive most impacts, the XK K110 would be my top pick. It's not overly powerful, it's well suited for beginners, and it's light along with being 1S powered so it doesn't release too much energy in a crash. Here's my review on it: ruclips.net/video/2yIB2-KSZyk/видео.html
Both the K130 & E160 will usually break something in a moderate crash due to having both more mass, more spinning rotor mass, and thus more energy release when crashing. Out of the two however, the E160 is by far the clear choice in my opinion. If you already have some CP flying experiance already & don't crash much anymore, then of course the E160 would be okay.
My best RC helicopter page on my website may also help further if you are considering your first CP heli - it goes into much more detail of choosing your first CP heli: www.rchelicopterfun.com/best-rc-helicopter.html
Thanks!
thank you for your honest and great review!
My pleasure.
Holy cow! Beautiful country right outside your door! Love your videos!
How were you able to use your FrSky transmitter? I know you mentioned the possibility of multi compatibility, but maybe I missed something?
Thanks!
You need a multi-protocol module. Here's the review on the one I'm using: ruclips.net/video/-xz7zs6G-j0/видео.html
can i transfer the parts of the k110s to k130? or can i use the tail boom of the 130 to the 110s main frame? thanks!
Hearing that whining tail motor kills it for me
GE, John. Have found a Flat White canopy on Ebay to remedy visual prob, Sir.
Good to know.
Hi John.
What is the purpose of the button on top of the rotor head, I bought mine used, and it did not have that part, do you think it will effect how it flies?
Hi Joe, Head buttons are mostly decoration. Lack of one won't have any impact on flight. Head buttons do offer a little bit of head & blade grip protection when hovering inverted very close to the ground for those that like to mow the grass or sweep the asphalt with their egg beaters. 🙃
My pinion gear has moved down where it dont make contact with main gear. How can I push the pinion gear back on? Can I do it without removing motor?
The pinion has likely come loose on the shaft; they are held on with Loctite 648/similar bearing retaining compound. You may be able to pull the pinion the remainder the way off (to re-loctite it on), or pull up on the motor can to remove the pinion. The can is held on by the pinion on the bottom. There is also a small brass spacer collar between the pinion the lower motor bearing so make sure you don't lose it in the process and refit when you refit the pinion back on. You could try to just push the pinion back up on the shaft of course, but if it has moved down on the shaft, the retaining compound is not longer holding it and it will soon move down on the shaft again or just start spinning on the shaft whenever a torque spike hits.
Thank you..
main blades are good for blade 130s
Good to know.
can i bind it on my walkera devo 7?
Hello I enjoy all your videos thank you! On this XK130 how would I go about setting up a DSMX ? Would love to change mine to spektrum?? Thank you
I haven't tried to plug a dsmx satellite RX into it so I don't know how or even if it can be done. I only made mention of it because I saw it in the instructions.
I have Syma F3 (4CH) before and it is bit difficult to fly for me. Does this one is twice ore more difficult than mine as it is 6CH and Hobbygrade?
Also does it is withstand on the wind?
Collective pitch is a totally different ball game from fixed pitch (yes much harder to fly). This is also not a good CP heli to learn on in my opinion. The XK K110 is much better suited for beginners and learning. Here's my review on it: ruclips.net/video/2yIB2-KSZyk/видео.html
Collective pitch handles wind much better than fixed pitch, but keep in mind micro/small RC helicopters with little mass and small rotor area are never going to be able to handle large amounts of wind like a larger collective pitch RC heli. If you want lots of wind handling ability, best to join an RC heli club, get a bigger machine (500 or larger), and get one on one instruction from an instructor.
@@Rchelicopterfun I see.. thanks for the feedback!
You shouldn't of zip tied the battery wire to the landing skiddz man. The weight of the battery an inersha pulled the esc apart had no let go points.an I wouldn't even used that xt connected. Maybe a thick gauge jst.
The LiPo battery cable is not zipped to the landing skids, the ESC power cable is! That is done at the factory, I never put that zip tie in place if you watched the video , it was like that out of the box. When the battery went flying during the impact, it pulled the ESC wiring and that's what pulled the landing struts out. If the ESC power wires were not zip ties to the landing struts, the ESC would have still been torn from the frame, and perhaps even more damage would have been done to it. Some of the energy was absorbed by first tearing out the landing strut pins after all. If the ESC wiring was however zipped to a stronger part of the frame instead of the landing struts, that might have helped?
Hi, I've just recently bought a K130. Can you tell me what protocol are you using to bind with an Frsky radio? tank you
As I show & say in the video several times.... S-FHSS.
Thank you. unfortunately i start to think that it is an hardware problem and not a software problem, since i already tried the latest firmwares and the outer module never lights up
I love that shit is about to get real mode lmao
Next time try 5 minute epoxy on that skid with the shrink tubing fix.
I've tried that and it doesn't work nearly as well as hot glue. Epoxy doesn't stick well to this type of plastic and it doesn't flex like hot glue does.
Does anyone know where can I get cheap and metal gear servos for this helicopter? I saw some at $11-16 but that’s too much.
Also too heavy. Keep it stock plastic. The plastic main gear is also a good mechanical fuse to protect the motor & pinion gear, while saving weight and money.
xk130 vs blade 150s
I'm just returning my K110S. Same problem. The plastic is terrible quality. They built an awesome heli and used poorest quality plastic for the parts. As if using nylon would affect their cost too much. 😂😂
Guess your using OpenTx on this heli.
Yep, with the iRangeX multi-protocol module.
@@Rchelicopterfun , I have that module as well, using a Taranis X9D+
hi John i'm getting frustated trying to tame this heli, the motor easly gets sooo hot it booted the system during flight, do you have any suggestion? I had 7 other heli most of them walkera , wltoys and one mcpx, all have never acting up like xk k130.
I would have to see it first hand to diagnose the issue/s. Sounds like a faulty heli, but that is just a guess without going through it.
Shoo goo is better than anything, try it
Been using it for years. As with any adhesive - it's totally application dependent.
Never crashed mine. I do funnels and tic toks.
Dear John,
Woould u pls tell me what is the Expo and D/R values of this XK 130 ??? Where can I find it ?
I need to set up my previous RTF XK110 radio for XK130 BNF.
Pls help. I follow yr RUclips ch, exception is I m not a 3D guy. ;-) . Thanks
I go over all my setting at the end of the video starting @ 18:50 including my dual and expo rates for aileron, elevator, and rudder (cyclic & tail rotor). I follow exactly what I outline in my setup & tips ebook for all collective pitch RC helicopters for various flying styles.
@@Rchelicopterfun ,
Ok 👌..thanks for replying.
Yr personal radio mby a bit different than the stock Xk130 one , in terms of Expo negetive or possitive . For exp, my Blade 130 S or other heli has possitive Expo , where as XK110 , 123 use negetive expo. So, my Spectrum radio expo & Xk radio expo is not same abt the possitive n negetive. Sorry for wrong english.
You sounded sad,,,,,
LOOKS UNSTABLE....YOU CANT POLISH A TURD...LOL
ha ha ha you crashed it
its a very weak heli