Classical Composer Reacts to Lateralus (Tool) - The Daily Doug (Episode 48)

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  • @mattweiss4843
    @mattweiss4843 3 года назад +1620

    "There is a reason no one sounds like Tool...because no one can." Exactly.

    • @ronniecorbett6306
      @ronniecorbett6306 3 года назад +7

      Truth

    • @DusteyeMC
      @DusteyeMC 3 года назад +7

      yeah, he nailed that one too.

    • @zukacs
      @zukacs 3 года назад +11

      @@DusteyeMC dude the exact moment i read this comment he said this in video. mind blown

    • @nigeobm4595
      @nigeobm4595 3 года назад +8

      Listen Soen's Cognitive

    • @rainbowroom2010
      @rainbowroom2010 3 года назад +10

      Come on guys...everyone knows Tool were influenced by Pink Floyd...

  • @wilcol8087
    @wilcol8087 2 года назад +388

    The fact that Doug picked up that it was the Fibonacci sequence is incredible

    • @benwallet7818
      @benwallet7818 Год назад +31

      Because it's not credible.

    • @DrMcKay66
      @DrMcKay66 Год назад +7

      Knox Hill the rapper got it aswell. He got mindblown 😂

    • @Fmb-sp4fb
      @Fmb-sp4fb Год назад +20

      @@DrMcKay66hell nah i've watched many of The Knox's reactions and they're just fake imo, he just googled it before

    • @DrMcKay66
      @DrMcKay66 Год назад

      @@Fmb-sp4fb Im guessing that no one cares anyway though.

    • @bourbonzcaches8493
      @bourbonzcaches8493 10 месяцев назад +9

      Not really, easily googled.

  • @charleysage5827
    @charleysage5827 3 года назад +934

    My wife is a professional pianist. I had never heard of Fibonacci until I had this playing in my truck. She just casually said, that's cool. Me, what's cool. She says that's Fibonacci. Then I had to have her explain it to me.

    • @nathanmckay2998
      @nathanmckay2998 3 года назад +42

      Yeah, the lyrics are wrote in that Fibonacci sequence. I had to look it up because I was never a good math student in school... I was a stoner that rocked out to Tool!

    • @seaofsorrow71
      @seaofsorrow71 3 года назад +46

      @@nathanmckay2998 you are good at math if you rocked to Tool.

    • @flyingardilla143
      @flyingardilla143 3 года назад +105

      Your wife is a keeper.

    • @rexahdar4199
      @rexahdar4199 3 года назад +5

      @@flyingardilla143 Exactly

    • @baukanakuab
      @baukanakuab 3 года назад +1

      @@nathanmckay2998 Is English your first language? "written" "have never been" "maths"

  • @Wungolioth
    @Wungolioth 3 года назад +857

    Only Tool would create such an intricate song mathematically, and philosophically, and then tease their fans for overanalyzing, right in the lyrics.

    • @CarlosLiberated
      @CarlosLiberated 3 года назад +32

      Funny stuff. Given Maynard’s history, it probably is a slight tease, but he also infuses many meanings into his lyrics. Overthinking, over analyzing, separates the body from the mind. He’s talking about intuition and the importance of trusting your gut so that you can feel the universe and seize the opportunities that open up to people who can intuitively sense them.

    • @edostork8121
      @edostork8121 3 года назад +15

      I read somewhere in an earlier comment elsewhere that you can also interpret this overthinking-overanalyzing too literally or too negatively. The comment said that the other part of the text that mentions separating body from the soul is taken together with that overthinking-overanalyzing part. So with that, I understand that the lyrics would be about being holistic and try to find all the angles without simplifying. Basically, to embrace complexity and push yourself to grow as a human being which, for me, is part of the main message of the song.

    • @t.rexsymonds7969
      @t.rexsymonds7969 3 года назад +2

      Beautifully put

    • @EvilSean62
      @EvilSean62 3 года назад +3

      i love that this is a thing ... can you picture snoop doggs fans having this discussion ... or even a vacuous teen salivatory trender stampede pausing mid shopping frenzy to analyse the time sig and instagramming the O...MG ( because just OMG is so last week ) ... endless conveyor belts of pretty but empty young things toppling into the maw of consumer death when they have spent their money and eaten their inheritance only to be told that plastic isnt cool now and theirs will be the final generation to have a lasting effect as the new kids on the block are all 'leave no tracer's
      and one kid at the back ... with the plastic lunch box with spam on white is quietly tapping his feet to the walkman rendition of classical music from the olden days of 2002 before we had children and sprots personalities running the country

    • @hoist8111
      @hoist8111 3 года назад +30

      @@EvilSean62 that's the most pretentious way I've ever seen someone else try to call other people pretentious.

  • @darinfields4238
    @darinfields4238 3 года назад +458

    Okay, that you immediately recognized the Fibonacci sequence in the meter of the lyrics on your first reaction is spectacular. That little gem is heralded by Tool geeks as part of the mystery of the universe. Kudos to your spectacular ear.

    • @evrE1aftermestolemyname
      @evrE1aftermestolemyname 2 года назад +82

      he obviously researched it before. wish he didnt pretend like he didnt

    • @ViolentGenius
      @ViolentGenius 2 года назад +26

      @@evrE1aftermestolemyname if he’s a composer he would know the sequences and patterns which are taking place within the tempo. Combined that with basic knowledge of the Fibonacci code and it wouldn’t be hard for him to notice. Most composers can hear things within songs that we can’t.

    • @TheBeanis8
      @TheBeanis8 2 года назад +35

      @@ViolentGenius LOL. Nobody would make that connection just because they know the Fibonacci sequence. Not on the first listen just like that especially. I'm sure this guy is a great composer and all that but if anyone actually believes he didn't look into beforehand, they're just fooling themselves. It's not a big deal either so no reason to defend the guy, but like someone else said it would be cooler if he'd admit it rather than pretend he just happened to make that connection the first time ever hearing the song, lol. I like your username though.

    • @ViolentGenius
      @ViolentGenius 2 года назад +2

      @@TheBeanis8 I'm not defending him. I'm just not assuming I know what he did beforehand..

    • @TheBeanis8
      @TheBeanis8 2 года назад

      @@ViolentGenius this isn't a direct comparison but it's sort of like the videos made today that are blatantly obviously staged even though they try to pretend that they aren't. With those, you don't know the 'beforehand' either and are still technically making an assumption, as obvious as it is. This is similar.. I wouldn't call these reaction videos "staged" but I would say that there are lots and lots of them that the listener has in fact listened to the song beforehand and yet presents the video as though they hadn't. Ultimately it's not that big of a deal but it is a little deceptive. If I'm wrong about this guy I would gladly eat my crow but I would say with 99% confidence that he didn't just make the Fibonacci connection from his first listen ever, regardless of him being a composer. Am I saying it's IMPOSSIBLE? No. But it's pretty damn unlikely. Especially for a person who just also so happens to be doing a reaction video on RUclips. Maybe there's a few people in the world who could hear the song one time and make that connection but to also have it coincidentally be a person doing a reaction video on RUclips, well to me that's just more than obvious that he did a little research beforehand. Anyway, have a good day.

  • @ryepie75
    @ryepie75 2 года назад +55

    I worked at Cello Studios when Tool was recording this album. I can remember the sheer power coming out of that studio just hearing it come through the walls while walking down the hallway-and also standing outside the door of the control room. They tracked the drums in the biggest studio with the drum kit near the back of the studio facing the control room. The room sound on the drums is amazing. This is where they also recorded Aenima, although it was Ocean Way Back then.

  • @KoDaMoJo
    @KoDaMoJo 3 года назад +948

    If you're this impressed by Danny Carey's studio tracks, you need to catch Pneuma live from his kit.

    • @thewildhealer541
      @thewildhealer541 3 года назад +8

      Hope we get to see more live videos from Tool in the future. Maybe we would if it weren't for covid. Maybe we would have a world tour too for Fear Inoculum.

    • @viking_nor
      @viking_nor 3 года назад +4

      @@thewildhealer541 after catching covid twice on tour i think maynard is staying home for a while

    • @kevinwassledah1153
      @kevinwassledah1153 3 года назад +13

      I'll agree with the Pneuma suggestion. May I add "Invincible" as well? Both epic in their own ways.

    • @spongylord7131
      @spongylord7131 3 года назад +3

      @@viking_nor twice? Yikes! Covid getting to Maynard made this pandemic shit personal. How silly is that... but Maynards voice is a national treasure.

    • @serclintalot4497
      @serclintalot4497 3 года назад +4

      If I see one more Vic Firth Pneuma Live reaction...

  • @pvrhye
    @pvrhye 3 года назад +401

    Lateralus came out when I was in College. At the same time my psych course was teaching about cerebral lateralization. That first line talks about early brain development. Babies see in black and white, then red and yellow. The sequence starts at one, goes up to something much longer and ends at 1. I think the song is about getting back in touch with your intuitive child-like self and returning to that receptive state.

    • @carborundorum
      @carborundorum 3 года назад +15

      Sounds like we're about the same age. I had this CD in my car for a year straight. It changed my life.

    • @XYourexMyxSaviorX
      @XYourexMyxSaviorX 3 года назад +13

      there is also a hint of evolution beyond the mere physical presence of oneself reach up and out go beyond one's own boundaries

    • @ayrsine
      @ayrsine 3 года назад +2

      WOW!

    • @andrewhandelsman834
      @andrewhandelsman834 3 года назад

      Maybe...

    • @ekopradja5974
      @ekopradja5974 3 года назад

      Geez

  • @MainelyW212
    @MainelyW212 3 года назад +513

    Ever watch Tool become someone’s new favorite band? Watch a composer figure out this song in the first listen. He’s initiated now.

    • @ericwalters9878
      @ericwalters9878 3 года назад +6

      Yeah. I like to try to find someone who’s NEVER heard of Tool. Most have heard them so they aren’t actually virgins. Most have heard a song or two before.

    • @undertow3461
      @undertow3461 3 года назад +8

      I do like to watch these. They bring a whole new experience to this experienced TooL listener.

    • @chadhaas6183
      @chadhaas6183 3 года назад

      I like the name bro. Yours and Tool of course

    • @chadhaas6183
      @chadhaas6183 3 года назад

      @@ericwalters9878 I'm always amazed how that is still a reality

    • @Davide77770
      @Davide77770 3 года назад +3

      When talking about Tool the word "initiation" is the right one. They're not a band, they're religion.

  • @TheAsphyx666
    @TheAsphyx666 3 года назад +81

    "The basic beat doesn't change throughout, it's how they're organizing the larger beats..." Nailed it, dude. This is how they manage to sound so rhythmically intricate and still lay down an amazing groove.

    • @ce6ej
      @ce6ej 2 года назад +2

      Wow…. I’ve never heard someone explain it like that 🤯. I learn new stuff about this band every day…

  • @chriscary9269
    @chriscary9269 3 года назад +684

    Tool is my generation’s Pink Floyd, Rush, Led Zeppelin all in one

    • @EdmundKempersDartboard
      @EdmundKempersDartboard 3 года назад +68

      Always thought of them as a metal Floyd.

    • @Andrew46_2
      @Andrew46_2 3 года назад +5

      I 100% agree.

    • @chazstone6744
      @chazstone6744 3 года назад +22

      Tool is what happens when you compress those 3 into one infinitely dense point.

    • @DusteyeMC
      @DusteyeMC 3 года назад +2

      true

    • @TheRedverb
      @TheRedverb 3 года назад +27

      I, for one, dislike Tool being compared to any of those bands. To me those bands have never sounded like Tool and vis versa.
      Tool are their own thing and they've earned that title.

  • @TheLarknessMonster
    @TheLarknessMonster 3 года назад +178

    So I know I'm late to the party here but this song goes so far in depth with the Fibonacci that it goes beyond just the syllables in the verses. Song actually starts at 1 second rather than 0 on Tools posted YT lateralus, so things may seem 1 sec off, but going off my song library song starts at 0 sec.
    - Syllables in each verse go (1) black, (1) then, (2) white are, (3) all I see, (5) In my infancy, (8) red and yellow then came to be, (5) reaching out to me, (3) lets me see
    - The introduction part of the song in 4/4 time is 01:12 long. 0,1,1,2 are the first four numbers in the sequence.
    - The first verse starts at 97 seconds. 97 seconds is 1.617 of a minute. Which is approx the golden ratio found in the Fibonacci (1.618)
    - Each verse is 55 seconds long. 55 is the 11th # in the sequence.
    - Time signatures within the main or chorus riff is 9/8, 8/8, 7/8. 987 is a number in the sequence.

    • @dreddnawtmettlehead2913
      @dreddnawtmettlehead2913 2 года назад +12

      Was going to point out this exact thing. Throughout the song most every major change happens around golden ratio, fibonochi, and primes. Not just the lyrics but also beats measures meters are mathematically immaculate. The white black red yellow also refers to the philosophers stone.... this song should be taught in schools.

    • @c_gull9995
      @c_gull9995 2 года назад +32

      My dude you are over thinking and over analyzing. Watch our or your body will separate from your mind!

    • @timl8302
      @timl8302 Год назад +1

      Yep! Syllables go-13. The pre- Chorus is 13. "As below So above and beyond I imagine" Lateralus is 'Lateral Thinking." The time signatures he mentioned 987, is a number in the sequence. His vocals starts at 1minute &.37 seconds = 1.618 minutes (Golden Ratio.) .

    • @Jguthro
      @Jguthro 5 месяцев назад

      But the sequence starts at zero...

    • @TheLarknessMonster
      @TheLarknessMonster 5 месяцев назад

      @@Jguthro Explain to me how you are going to have a word with 0 syllables?

  • @alexgram1276
    @alexgram1276 3 года назад +173

    I ve never seen a man getting the whole meaning of this song in just one listen, you are great

    • @freakbythecat
      @freakbythecat 3 года назад +10

      It's called google....he be reading a crib sheet

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 3 года назад +17

      @@freakbythecat no, I think it is music classical education. A trained classical musician understands and counts the numbers of rhythms, and of notes, very easily, it is done even since the first month's of education.
      This stuff, is not new, even ancients used number patterns and ratios in music, paintings and architecture. It is just rebrought in modern pop culture.

    • @freakbythecat
      @freakbythecat 3 года назад +1

      @@innosanto never said he didn't know musical theory did I. So how you getting some one cheating to some one not knowing anything. You know to get the music theory you practice and learn, just like research on songs so you understand. That's how smart people do things, learn. So to sum it up. I'm saying the dude has listened to the song and it's not his first listen

    • @tbeng12
      @tbeng12 3 года назад +3

      @@freakbythecat Plus he's got a Phd in this field you know.

    • @freakbythecat
      @freakbythecat 3 года назад +6

      @@tbeng12 PhD don't mean you don't write shit down and practice something before you go to the public with it. PhD probably means your smart enough to do that since you have a PhD and don't do shit all willy nilly

  • @Steelwhip2001
    @Steelwhip2001 3 года назад +101

    Tool is the only band that makes me feel as if I have touched the Divine when listening to them.

  • @dansnow7374
    @dansnow7374 3 года назад +271

    This is completely engrossing. As a basement “ musician” to listen to someone who knows music theory and can pick out chords and key by listening is amazing black magic to me. This is very cool stuff. I really enjoyed your Iron Maiden reactions/ breakdown as well.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  3 года назад +57

      Thanks. I ‘tune up’ before listening...so that I have a foundation to start verbally recognizing the chords and notes. I don’t have perfect pitch. We practice doing listening like this often in music school.

    • @JanneTarhanen
      @JanneTarhanen 3 года назад +18

      My words exactly! And this analysis of the song, got me subbed to this channel. This very different approach to these reaction videos and this also re-freshes this "reaction genre".
      I just hope that when @Doug Helvering stomples upon Nightiwish, I wish that he would tackle "The Greatest Show on Earth" -studio version. TGSoE deserves Dougs input.

    • @serclintalot4497
      @serclintalot4497 3 года назад +15

      To be fair. If it's Tool, D minor is a pretty safe assumption.

    • @undertow3461
      @undertow3461 3 года назад +3

      Exactly how I feel. When I first heard TooL back in *coughs* it was beautiful, chaotic noise that I was looking forward to dissecting. Haven't stopped since.
      💕 Love you all.💕

    • @horseshoe_nc
      @horseshoe_nc 3 года назад +1

      @@JanneTarhanen Doug is now in the Nightwish rabbit hole. He has done Ghost Love Score and The Greatest Show On Earth. He went with the official live of both.

  • @raymondharnack4160
    @raymondharnack4160 3 года назад +56

    The intro is the sound of the inside of a mother’s womb. The harsh intro is that infant being thrust suddenly into the world.

  • @EdmundKempersDartboard
    @EdmundKempersDartboard 3 года назад +180

    A lot of Maynard's lyrics are about self-acceptance, reflection and spiritual growth. Pretty much nailed it.

    • @myNamesTakin
      @myNamesTakin 3 года назад +4

      Don't forget drugs and sexual abuse

    • @richard_from_england333
      @richard_from_england333 3 года назад +4

      @@myNamesTakin He's making fun of drugs

    • @Speakofawe
      @Speakofawe 3 года назад

      This song is definitely an example of that for sure! I always come back to this song if I feel like shit. That album is aligned with my soul... or my soul immediately aligned with it - so. Damn. Good.

  • @5eba
    @5eba 3 года назад +34

    I'm weeping to the outro out of overflowing emotion. I'm so thankful this music exists.

  • @Thinchap
    @Thinchap 3 года назад +172

    "What is that?". It's the sound of you being born.

  • @danielmrtns
    @danielmrtns 3 года назад +34

    4:41 “I think I got the rhythm pegged...”
    Tool: “challenge accepted!”

  • @Marcocarronda
    @Marcocarronda 3 года назад +159

    I'm a fan of everyone who found the Fibonacci sequence in Lateralus.
    Sir, you got a lot of fans, the TOOL Army. It"s very cool to look at TOOL by your classical eye . We salute you

  • @peterprovost727
    @peterprovost727 3 года назад +90

    Never heard this song before.
    It is absolutely unbelievable!
    I'm still trying to piece myself together in the right functioning order....

    • @the_____project4582
      @the_____project4582 3 года назад +8

      You should hear the rest of their catalogue

    • @Caydecate
      @Caydecate 2 года назад +13

      Welcome to TOOL

    • @JorgeRamirez-ij6fo
      @JorgeRamirez-ij6fo 2 года назад

      When you're tired from a long day or down for whatever reason, listen to this band.

    • @jimlthor
      @jimlthor 2 года назад

      The whole album is put together in Fibonnacci order as well. So listen to it in that order and it all blends together

  • @brandonhinrichs387
    @brandonhinrichs387 3 года назад +134

    Danny Carey is also a professionally trained Jazz percussionist. His college degree is a music degree

    • @Verifraudreports
      @Verifraudreports 3 года назад +29

      you forgot Wizard Octopus

    • @Squirrelconga
      @Squirrelconga 3 года назад

      @@Verifraudreports 👾

    • @janelson41
      @janelson41 3 года назад +9

      He has a doctorate in percussion and a masters in ancient mathematics, if I'm not mistaken...

    • @googelle7555
      @googelle7555 3 года назад +1

      Prog musicians ... gotta LOVE 'em ...

    • @nyobunknown6983
      @nyobunknown6983 5 месяцев назад

      And he spent time as a session musician.

  • @rickp5205
    @rickp5205 2 года назад +4

    For years I was a TOOL fan, I practiced Aikido and studied Nietzsche - in the song Lateralus, I realized they all came together. The spirals in Aikido's philosophy of movement and Nietzsche's philosophy of "embrac[ing] whatever may come." And, no doubt, there's probably at least dozens of other references/influences that could be legitimately inferred and or mined from just that single song. Nietzsche once wrote that he was writing for an audience probably not yet born. I believe TOOL is writing for future generations that will still marvel at their art. TOOL. RULES.

  • @mushroomblue5504
    @mushroomblue5504 3 года назад +99

    Maynard writes the lyrics after hearing the piece of music. The vocals are also viewed and treated as an instrument, rather than just leading the song. Fantastic reaction; well done.

    • @brandonhinrichs387
      @brandonhinrichs387 3 года назад +4

      It always cracks me up when people say oh it fits so perfectly and you're like yeah no shit because the music was already finished so naturally he's going to be singing in the gaps 😂

    • @mahogany174
      @mahogany174 3 года назад +2

      Maynard takes the music and tries not to ruin the masterpiece as created and in the process elevates it to perfection. No other band sound like this. Absolutely mesmerising.

  • @cndluluv
    @cndluluv 3 года назад +39

    “no one sounds like Tool... because no one can” GD right.

  • @thevoidaintdeep6475
    @thevoidaintdeep6475 3 года назад +150

    "You Tool fans probably know about this". Yeah dude, there's like an ongoing in-joke that we never shut up about it :)) Welcome to the club

    • @stagger9660
      @stagger9660 3 года назад +7

      Yeah man the fettuccine sequence is what really sells this song

    • @faamecanic1970
      @faamecanic1970 3 года назад

      More like “Join us as we go down the rabbit hole” :)

  • @vladtheinhaler93
    @vladtheinhaler93 3 года назад +97

    Just one thing; "overthinking-overanalysing separates the body from the mind" is a message of hope for those who choose to hear it, and a warning to those who do not...

    • @dragonthesharkyt
      @dragonthesharkyt 2 года назад +6

      Me? The Chosen One? They chose me?

    • @riskrask3310
      @riskrask3310 2 года назад +2

      @@dragonthesharkyt and I didn’t even graduate from fuckin high school

    • @machinist1337
      @machinist1337 2 года назад +2

      Did aliens lure you with orange slices too?

    • @vladtheinhaler93
      @vladtheinhaler93 2 года назад +1

      @@machinist1337 Yeah, but I'm still waiting for the buffet to be served, dont know what else might me on the menu

  • @MorningKillsDawn
    @MorningKillsDawn 3 года назад +224

    I'm calling it right now: Tool Army assemble!

  • @Maverick0420
    @Maverick0420 2 года назад +18

    The time signatures of the chorus of the song change from 9/8 to 8/8 to 7/8; as drummer Danny Carey says, "It was originally titled 9-8-7. For the time signatures. Then it turned out that 987 was the 16th number of the Fibonacci sequence. So that was cool."

  • @ted1976hailspiralout
    @ted1976hailspiralout 3 года назад +42

    The Tool Army needs more of your Tool reactions!!!

  • @bradleyd6000
    @bradleyd6000 3 года назад +59

    How this band has only won 3 Grammys is beyond me and an indictment on the Grammys IMO.

    • @furthurondown
      @furthurondown 3 года назад +14

      nobody in the band cares about grammys. you shouldn't either.

    • @bradleyd6000
      @bradleyd6000 3 года назад +7

      @@furthurondown I don't. It's a statement on how much of a joke the grammys are.

    • @tonylane8873
      @tonylane8873 2 года назад +3

      Milli Vanilli won a Grammy. Jimi Hendryx never did.

    • @JustinMcVicar
      @JustinMcVicar 2 года назад +1

      Grammy's and other awards are complete bullshit and only ever account for how many units they've sold.

    • @vincegedeon6583
      @vincegedeon6583 Год назад

      ​@@tonylane8873 they didn't have the Grammys in the 60s😂

  • @brianc5410
    @brianc5410 3 года назад +225

    Key Of Geebs is amazing y’all need to go look at his reactions

    • @ilovetacos6092
      @ilovetacos6092 3 года назад +31

      Love his reactions. Watching composers try to dissect Tool is so satisfying for me. It’s like a drug for me.

    • @kepp81
      @kepp81 3 года назад +24

      Watching his reactions for the last couple hours led me here lol

    • @zukacs
      @zukacs 3 года назад +19

      is this why i got recommend this channel?

    • @paul.i3606
      @paul.i3606 3 года назад +5

      Definitely

    • @robinclaidlaw
      @robinclaidlaw 3 года назад +8

      The only other reactor I’ve seen hear and spot the Fibonacci sequence first go.

  • @jenkinsisaac91
    @jenkinsisaac91 3 года назад +4

    This is by far one of the absolute best reactions to a tool song I’ve ever seen. The amount of things you noticed and understood from the meanings of this song is incredible, I can’t wait to see more of your stuff

    • @chrisconnelly5907
      @chrisconnelly5907 3 года назад

      @Art Antipop which part?

    • @chrisconnelly5907
      @chrisconnelly5907 3 года назад

      @Art Antipop I want to know more about Tool and their secrets from a super fan.

  • @farn451
    @farn451 3 года назад +12

    you're the first reactori've ever seen who's clocked the fibonacci sequence without a tool army member laying it out. i could see you thinking it! Masters of minimalism and taking an idea and extending it in ways that are both simple and complex. when i tabbed out the bass line that section was as you guessed, 9/8, 4/4 and 7/8 with 5/8 for the verses.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  3 года назад +7

      Thanks. Folks like me train to listen to music like this...takes years of practice. The 9/8, 8/8, 7/8 thing was a lucky guess. The macro phrase has 24 beats. 9+8+7 is a neat way to have three large measures. I’ve thought about that before in my own music and happened to recognize the pattern.

  • @Evelynthelost3
    @Evelynthelost3 2 года назад +7

    Tool are a bunch of music geniuses that no one can even compare them to they are literally the best band change my mind

  • @robertjones4361
    @robertjones4361 3 года назад +54

    "It lifts you up"........Yes it does.......Take the TooL Journey my friend, it's the most cerebral and intelligent and progressive music available.......they are truly organic and have grown together as men over 30 years.....I am 54 years old, no kid........they have guided me during many dark times, this particular album came out in 2001 and the tour was interrupted by the tragedy of 9/11, the lyrics throughout this album and catalog.......will spark thought......you're not reading too much into it......they are talking about becoming the best "human" you can be and to push the envelope of accepted to be possibly better

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  3 года назад +31

      Thanks very much. My brother has been on me for years to dive into Tool. No stopping now!

    • @rasol136
      @rasol136 3 года назад +1

      Then Fear Inoculum came out and their tour was interrupted by the Pandemic. Quite a coincidence or they release their music right when the world would need it most.

    • @jen0000
      @jen0000 3 года назад +1

      All of their shows are amazing but IMO the Lateralus tour was the most memorable. I was so thankful they came to Philly that year.

  • @jlog1c
    @jlog1c 3 года назад +5

    Never seen a reactor that really understood this song so well on the first listen. The musical choices, the meaning of the song, you nailed it.

  • @kdiamond
    @kdiamond 3 года назад +32

    The fact that you picked up the Fibonacci thing on your first listen is super impressive. Keep doing these reactions, loving them so far.

    • @Jalynfein
      @Jalynfein 3 года назад +15

      The fact that you think he picked up on that without any prior knowledge is super impressive.
      Especially considering you can witness evidence that he's already heard this song.
      Super naive.

    • @KORKEL-
      @KORKEL- 3 года назад +4

      More like super unbelievable

    • @Bramble451
      @Bramble451 3 года назад +3

      @@Jalynfein You may be right or wrong. But another commenter said his pianist wife picked up on it on her first hearing. And he explains why he is familiar with it - it's used in classical music composition. So maybe he is fibbing about the Fibonacci, but it's worth remembering that just because someone can do something that you can't, doesn't mean it can't be done. Rick Beato can pick up on songs on first hearing, because his ear is trained and he is familiar with certain patterns that frequently show up in pop songs. Key of Geebs, also a composer, picks up on all sorts of different aspects of songs that many of us probably missed.

    • @Benni-rp9or
      @Benni-rp9or 3 года назад

      @@Bramble451 Key of Geebs also admitted to looking ahead at songs, so it's possible he knew about the Fibonacci sequence ahead of time. I'm skeptical as well that someone, even a musician would just pick up on that so clearly and early in the song on the first play. I also don't believe that the Fibonacci sequence is super common in music, or at least not commonly discussed. My wife is a pianist and has studied music and theory, she has a degree and has been playing for over 20 years and teaches lessons. I'm curious if she's aware of it, I'll ask her tonight. I'm not saying someone would never pick up on this, but in the day of RUclips fame, some people will say or do almost anything to get recognition and subscribers.

  • @haldern501
    @haldern501 Год назад +2

    just found this video, the fact that you figured out the whole fibonacci sequence thing on the first listen.. you are a genius. i watch a lot of 'reaction' channels, but you are BY FAR the most well-educated person i've ever come across.

  • @MainelyW212
    @MainelyW212 3 года назад +58

    Only Adam Jones can pull of 64 bars of solo and only use 2 notes like that....

  • @darkprime2990
    @darkprime2990 2 дня назад

    My New Year’s resolution is to go back and like these videos that I’ve seen and loved for years now. Thanks Doug. And thanks Tool Army! Spiral out

  • @elskeletor3566
    @elskeletor3566 3 года назад +84

    The whole album is the Fibonacci sequence. You should watch the interview with Maynard on Joe Rogan show where he explains this.

    • @danielkeene3852
      @danielkeene3852 8 месяцев назад +1

      Then Maynard tells Joe that it wasn't intentional. Maynard trolling Joe with a little smirk.

  • @corditeshade
    @corditeshade 3 года назад +4

    I saw them live in Madrid in 2019, 6 months before the pandemic started. The emotional response to even a video such as this can be overwhelming - especially with all what has been happening. Dissecting the psyche.

  • @wendeln92
    @wendeln92 3 года назад +8

    I love these analyses by professional musicians. It shows that many of these heavy "rock" bands are not just pulling uot their instruments and making a bunch of noise. There is structure and intelligence. They really are musicians and not just a group of guys guys getting stoned and playing slamming their instruments. Also love that there are other Tool fans out there that like similar bands as I do (Pink Floyd, Rush, King Crimson, etc.) which I believe led me to really liking and appreciating Tool.

  • @larrycooper5328
    @larrycooper5328 3 года назад +37

    Buddy, if you just organically discovered the fibonacci sequence this is the most amazing reaction to this song I have ever heard. Kudos to you man. All Hail the Octopus!!!!! Danny Carey.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  3 года назад +29

      It’s a music school thing. My masters and doctorate are both in composition, and the academic side of that is in analysis and history of music theory. As a musicianship teacher, I’ve taught those rhythms, and it just popped out at me when I heard it in the rhythmic poetry. Plus, I’ve heard Pneuma many times and was anticipating rhythmic complexity in this track.

    • @edwardomunoz9299
      @edwardomunoz9299 3 года назад +2

      @@Doug.Helvering FYI these guys are in a league of their own 🤘 Spiral out keep it going 🔥

    • @socialxperiment3162
      @socialxperiment3162 2 года назад

      David Heretic figured it out too, and he’s obsessed with counting and time signatures

  • @myriadpath
    @myriadpath 3 года назад +2

    i am immensely happy for anyone who can listen to this for the first time and come away with that much understanding. good on you, and you just gained another sub

  • @tomgrant29
    @tomgrant29 3 года назад +21

    "Where are they gonna go now?"
    To the end of time and space my friend :)

    • @lejlateletovic5225
      @lejlateletovic5225 3 года назад +2

      ...after "Reaching out to embrace the random
      , reaching out to embrace whatever may come"

  • @jessicamcbee8702
    @jessicamcbee8702 3 года назад +39

    Oh, I so love hearing a reaction that comes with musical knowledge. I love the insight! Welcome to the TOOL Army!!! I hope you do more TOOL reactions!! This is fabulous!

    • @Shake69ification
      @Shake69ification 3 года назад +5

      It’s very satisfying to hear those who know something about music _really_ listen and understand what we all have known on a subconscious level.

  • @rlundquest
    @rlundquest 3 года назад +3

    I thought your critique of Tool's music, from one listen, was the best I have heard so far. I am convinced that Tool is the greatest group of musicians, together and on their own. I don't think you can find any better. Their music is so complex and has incredible depth. I have been hooked ever since I first listened to them in 1997. Their music NEVER gets old! Thank you for your perspective, I appreciate your attention to the many details 🤘

  • @jimmyg.6487
    @jimmyg.6487 3 года назад +46

    Will you be diving more into TOOL?

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  3 года назад +49

      For sure!

    • @77bones
      @77bones 3 года назад +11

      @@Doug.Helvering Watch Pneuma Drum Cam next!!!

    • @Andrew46_2
      @Andrew46_2 3 года назад +4

      @@Doug.Helvering the toolarmy will be here if you continue. Great analysis and reaction.

    • @DR.DisInfect
      @DR.DisInfect 3 года назад +4

      Do Lost Keys -Rosetta Stoned 👍 🎸🎤🎶🎹🍺

    • @MrPablo616
      @MrPablo616 3 года назад +3

      @@Doug.Helvering TOOL Pneuma (the Vic Firth drum cam) please good sir ruclips.net/video/FssULNGSZIA/видео.html

  • @wccook1
    @wccook1 2 года назад +2

    Doug, I absolutely love your Tool reactions. That’s how I found you and I have since loved all of your other vids. Thankyou sir 🙏🏻

  • @Explosion-of-consciousness
    @Explosion-of-consciousness 3 года назад +74

    “Are they doing Fibonacci stuff?”
    Welcome to Tool. Have fun going down this rabbit hole. You’ve only just begun. :)

  • @coachklub1556
    @coachklub1556 3 года назад +1

    Doug: Thank you for this. The joy you felt, I have felt every one of the 100+ times I have played this track. Wonderful having you explain some of the magic. Great stuff from you and of course from TOOL.

  • @RyanMovingViolationz
    @RyanMovingViolationz 3 года назад +5

    You're the only reaction to this perfect song on RUclips, as of me writing this comment, that has deciphered their Fibonacci concept mid-reaction. You should be proud of this fact, sir! Subscribed!

  • @damianhenry6227
    @damianhenry6227 3 года назад +2

    Welcome to the tribe brother. 😆 it’s awesome to see the light turn on in someone’s head when they get it. Awesome.

  • @l.a.native6921
    @l.a.native6921 3 года назад +179

    This guys an undercover die-hard Tool fan acting like he's never heard this before lol

    • @curtbritt1631
      @curtbritt1631 3 года назад +15

      Just a little playing pretend....

    • @Jivanmuktaintraining
      @Jivanmuktaintraining 3 года назад +19

      Wait, is he doing Fibonacci stuff? Yeah, he just picked that up this moment. Still, good analysis.

    • @nooodles939
      @nooodles939 3 года назад +20

      Exactly what I was thinking.

    • @tappytibbons735
      @tappytibbons735 3 года назад +9

      yup, OH MY GOSH THE LYRICS IS FLIBBINANTCHI, 9,8,7 over 12 rhythm comes in... no comment. Yeah normie youtuber watched other vids on the song from other derpies before his "reaction" then totally missed the actual sequence in the song.

    • @nickwilliams3174
      @nickwilliams3174 3 года назад +4

      100%

  • @drivehard2395
    @drivehard2395 3 года назад +1

    You have no idea how cool it is to see someone like you express the exact reasons why I love these groups so much. To see you react to the very things that made me react when I first heard them is wonderful. It's like sitting in a room with friends back in Austin, Texas playing tracks for each other and getting turned on to new things. Love it.

  • @anthonypallen7919
    @anthonypallen7919 3 года назад +12

    Fun to see someone who gets it. Tool is always a surprise to à listener.

  • @citylineman
    @citylineman 3 года назад +1

    Love your honest reaction. The analytics you provide are amazing! I think you truly enjoyed this song. Thank you for sharing.

  • @rayrayokmusic
    @rayrayokmusic 3 года назад +6

    Great analysis. Crazy to think you got this the first time. Whoa.

    • @zachchristensen1104
      @zachchristensen1104 3 года назад +3

      A little too crazy Maybe what do you think? Not to be a skeptic it felt a little hokey, unnatural not trying to offend anybody but I'd rather be a dick than a dildo, then again I'm usually only right half the time. Although I am glad he enjoyed it, and will continue to check him out, but he is on probation

    • @DR.DisInfect
      @DR.DisInfect 3 года назад +1

      Don't be a dick 😒

  • @RL-uy3fq
    @RL-uy3fq 6 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve never seen anybody figure this song out in real time the way this guy did… he impressed me.

    • @Gablyful
      @Gablyful 5 месяцев назад

      "Real time". Nice joke. Keep em comming.

  • @douglasplinhares
    @douglasplinhares 3 года назад +4

    This channel is so underrated. Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷!

  • @GizliBiraz
    @GizliBiraz 9 месяцев назад +1

    This song has it all... all the intricacies and layers of the music & musicality you noted, but also:
    • math (Fibonacci, spiral, Golden Ratio)
    • science (galaxies spiral, grow, ever expanding)
    • human development ("black and white are all I see, in my infancy, red and yellow then came to me..."-how human eyesight develops from infancy and beyond)
    • existentialism ("spiral out, keep going..." or "push the envelope, watch it bend")
    • spirituality (reaching, striving, wanting more, "There is so much more that beconks me to look through to these infinite possibilities")
    • mental health ("Overthinking, over analyzing... withering my intuition...")
    • hope for the future ("We may just go where no one's been... keep going")
    My favorite line has always been "I'm reaching up and reaching out, I"m reaching for the random or whatever will bewilder me"

  • @ehoc42
    @ehoc42 3 года назад +3

    The Fibonacci sequence is referenced all other this song:
    - The introduction section of the song is 01:12 long (0, 1, 1, 2 are the first four numbers in the sequence).
    - The first verse starts at 97 seconds, which is approximately 1.618 minutes - (The Golden Ratio)
    - Each verse is 55 seconds long (11th # in sequence).
    - The syllables in the verses coincide with the sequence, as the first part of the first verse goes 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 5, 3
    - The 2nd line “to swing on the spiral” finishes at 6:18 which numerically matches 1.618 - (The Golden Ratio)
    - The time signature of the main riff is 9/8 8/8 7/8, 987 is the 17th term in the sequence.

  • @fan-i-am
    @fan-i-am 3 года назад +1

    I'm only 2:40 in and I already know this guy GOOD! He said "What is that? Bup-bup-bup-bup. Like a heartbeat? Like a muscle. Because Lateralus would be a lateral muscle?" He is very observant and discerning. I like him already and I know he will appreciate Tool and give them the props they deserve!
    He's earned my subscribe!
    Edit: At 6:36 he just stopped and asked "Are they doing Fibonacci stuff?" realizing that they've incorporated it poetically/lyrically. I love this guy! He knows his stuff! (along with recognizing time signatures too)

  • @chrisjohnzo5235
    @chrisjohnzo5235 3 года назад +10

    you figured it out , i trust you now , i am following

  • @saragarland1270
    @saragarland1270 2 года назад +2

    It’s awesome to see someone fully understand the song on the first listen. Most people just don’t get why us tool fans geek out so much on this stuff.

  • @Miksalot
    @Miksalot 3 года назад +11

    I had to be told that they utilized the Fibonacci Sequence when making this song. You picked it up on the first listen. Kudos.
    Also, if you think you're reading too much into a Tool song, it's still most likely not enough.

  • @ozzy_osvi
    @ozzy_osvi 3 года назад +1

    first time watchers! i love your comments and observations, i'll sub for some more tool first reactions!

  • @MainelyW212
    @MainelyW212 3 года назад +41

    When you see Justin (bass player) perform live.... he’s in a 5th time signature when he moves around. It’s some elliptical rocking in no rhythm the band is playing, including himself....

    • @pro-v7500
      @pro-v7500 3 года назад

      Well considering his playing resolves into rhythm with the band more than once, he’s most definitely playing a rhythm.

    • @BS-Reviewz
      @BS-Reviewz 3 года назад +5

      @@pro-v7500 I’m pretty sure he’s talking about the motion his body is making is what isn’t in time with anything

    • @pro-v7500
      @pro-v7500 3 года назад

      @@BS-Reviewz mind blown. Thanks for clarification.

    • @CarlosLiberated
      @CarlosLiberated 3 года назад +3

      Justin, at least at the show I was at, was hilarious live. He looked like he was having the time of his life and seemed to be having an ongoing dialogue and running joke with the first three rows of the crowd in front of him throughout the show.

    • @markseay3736
      @markseay3736 3 года назад

      Thanks for reminding me about this. I've only seen Tool live once [2019], and noticed the same thing. As a drummer myself, I always try to focus on whatever polyrhythmic magic is happening, regardless of who I'm listening to. After hearing a song two or three times, I've usually got the pattern recognized, and move according to that groove. But watching Justin live really messed with my head. I spent an entire song just focusing on what he and Danny were playing and could NOT sync that to his body movements. It was frustratingly fascinating. I ultimately came to the same conclusion you mentioned, and just stopped TRYING to figure out what his body was moving to. My theory is, that's some deep "third eye" sh!T, manifesting physically, and unconsiously to Justin. But it's COOL to watch!!

  • @DanielColageo
    @DanielColageo 3 года назад +1

    Dude, THE WAY you figured out the fib sequence in that song....I never caught that. People see things differently, and this way of seeing is not what I was looking for. So cool! Thank you

    • @Natriumblabla
      @Natriumblabla 3 года назад

      He didn't figure it out. In one of the comments he admits he read about it before listening.

  • @szurpx
    @szurpx 3 года назад +6

    987 is also a Fibonacci number, the 15th I believe. Great reaction, always very interesting hearing someone's opinion who's educated on music, can't wait to hear the future reactions.

  • @slimjimmy127
    @slimjimmy127 3 года назад +1

    That's a crazy ear you have. Thanks for taking us on the journey with you🤘

  • @DocArthurTX
    @DocArthurTX 3 года назад +28

    "lyric -driven" is ironic since the way Tool writes their songs is the instrumental arrangement is done first and the vocals are done at the end. I suspect that a song that plays on the Fibonacci sequence in lyrics and music would require a more coordinated effort.

  • @cultureisnotyourfriend3458
    @cultureisnotyourfriend3458 3 года назад +3

    It's so funny when I watch these reaction videos to this song specifically, when they say overthinking and over-analyzing and then the person realizes that they're doing the same thing analyzing the song. I love it.

  • @coasteraddict10
    @coasteraddict10 3 года назад +3

    God damn that was great you recognising the fib sequence almost straight away.

  • @inertial_salmon
    @inertial_salmon 3 года назад +1

    Holy..... I absolutely love your analysis. You have my total respect. This video, while unable to rival the masterpiece that is Lateralus, certainly honors the song marvelously

  • @cerebralfailure8804
    @cerebralfailure8804 3 года назад +11

    the ratio you were referring to is called The Golden Ratio which ties into both nature and all forms of art

    • @Kronical69420
      @Kronical69420 3 года назад

      Just another name for the Fibonacci Sequence.

  • @Gnomojo
    @Gnomojo 3 года назад +1

    Side note. I’m 40 years old and I’ve loved Tool since before Undertow. To see you enjoy Tool never having heard it is bliss to me. Brings me back to my first time. This is why people like reaction videos.

    • @nicolebrown515
      @nicolebrown515 3 года назад

      I too am 40 and have been listening since I was about 12 or 13. Life changing. I also thoroughly enjoy watching people with musical knowledge react to TOOL. It takes me back to that first time too. Pure ecstasy!

  • @ArtimusClyde
    @ArtimusClyde 3 года назад +7

    the time signatures are 9/8 8/8 7/8 987 which is the 16th number of the Fibonacci sequence.

  • @IvanSKMK
    @IvanSKMK 2 года назад

    Omg it IS a heartbeat in the womb at the beginning. I've been listening to Tool for more than 20 years and never caught on to that but it makes so much sense given how the lyrics start. Wow, and you got that on the first take. Kudos

  • @ricks.3883
    @ricks.3883 3 года назад +6

    "Really"? yea🤣 I loved your reaction when you figured out the Fibonacci stuff. Great review of this song 👍🏻

  • @the_____project4582
    @the_____project4582 3 года назад

    You managed to capture exactly why they are my favorite band in just one listen. Quite impressive. You’ve gained my respect and my subscription. Can’t wait to see more

  • @garrisonchabot22
    @garrisonchabot22 3 года назад +12

    "There's not a lot of expansiveness in terms of melody, it's just...power..."
    'Unlimited Power' - Chancellor Palpatine

    • @mikek9297
      @mikek9297 3 года назад +1

      UUUUNLIIIIMIIIITEEEEEED POOOOWAAAAAAAAAH !!!

    • @chadphelps5809
      @chadphelps5809 3 года назад +1

      Whenever I’m at Olive Garden I always say “ unlimited breadsticks” like Palpatine lol

  • @durtyd9625
    @durtyd9625 3 года назад +1

    Well played catching that fib sequence. Prolly the only person I've seen catch it on the first go. Cheers man! Too cool

  • @matthew6427
    @matthew6427 3 года назад +5

    It's amazing how people can "hear" this band and/or "be aware" of them but once you dig in, the intricacies and brilliance is witnessed. Great vid, I'm sure people will be calling for Wings and Judith, etc. I would be interested in seeing The Grudge. Most people who do these videos tend to overlook that one. Either way you go, I can't wait to see the journey. Tool is an animal all their own & the path you take will be interesting no matter the path.

  • @instinct3426
    @instinct3426 3 года назад +1

    Tool is like no other, the way they put together and compose their music is amazing

  • @gabrielascencao8729
    @gabrielascencao8729 3 года назад +12

    Need to listen and react to disposition ,reflection, triad but you have to hear it all together

  • @ericgoodwinart
    @ericgoodwinart 3 года назад +1

    The fact that you caught the math of this song and the fibonacci sequence and the meaning all within the first listen has got to be a first within all the reactions I’ve heard of this song. Kudos! That’s super impressive!

  • @Spooky_Tooth1
    @Spooky_Tooth1 3 года назад +14

    This needs more thumbs up 👍

  • @waryou303
    @waryou303 3 года назад +1

    just watched a couple of videos, there is nothing to say Sir, you just GET IT, and there's not much to say. Kudos and wish you all the best.

  • @darealboot1
    @darealboot1 3 года назад +7

    HAHAHAHA! HE FIGURED IT OUT SO FAST! yes.... fibonaci is all over this entire song

  • @just_johannes
    @just_johannes 3 года назад

    Its glorious to see how you get sucked in more and more. You really picked the best song to experience what tool is! Ride the spiral my dude, this is a rabbit hole like nothing else..

  • @RideTheSpiral28
    @RideTheSpiral28 3 года назад +3

    The build up on this song is one of my favorites..... greatest band of my time....

  • @bio-phobia3895
    @bio-phobia3895 Год назад

    As a TOOL fan I'm glad you enjoyed and welcome to the fan club, This song is eye opening and very spiritual and if you aren't into that then it's just great music all around,It's perfect, Great video dude.

  • @wolfsonggames4988
    @wolfsonggames4988 3 года назад +34

    What's Tool's favorite time signature?
    Tool Time!!
    I made a funny!

  • @Flatstick
    @Flatstick 3 года назад +1

    Dude! This is the first time (and I've watched a lot of these) that I've ever seen anyone listen to this and figure out, without any prior knowledge, that the Fibonacci sequence was used, particularly with the syllables. Great fun to watch! :D
    Looking forward to seeing you discover more of their work, almost all of their songs are this good; and none of the remainder are ever bad anyway. Cheers.

  • @FergusScotchman
    @FergusScotchman 3 года назад +7

    Doug, you strike me as an intelligent person. That was great hearing it the first time, and the way you described the emotional consequence of the beat and focus on lyrical beat was surprising to me.

  • @eleonorasassi3989
    @eleonorasassi3989 3 года назад +1

    I like this videos because I know nothing about music, I just listen to what "feels" good, but thanks to this type of reactions I understand a little bit about the structure of a song, the interactions between the different elements (notes and rhythm etc)...and it opens a whole nee world and makes me respect musicians even more! So intresting!