"Descendant from Godfrey" doesn't have to mean that they are a direct offspring of Godfrey. That's basically what clans are. They are a group of people claiming to be descendants from a real and/or mythological figure. Biologically speaking, this kinship can be extremely tenuous or completely inexistant. That's why, in real life, you can have people claiming to be part of the "Clan of th wolf" because, according to them, they are all descendants from the same mythical wolf.
honestly fromsoft missed a big opportunity with vyke lore. This dude is literally on the game cover. Not to mention how he looks and how he also fcked a dragon. If he wasn't strayed by frenzied flame he would probably have become an elden lord
Godfrey's first wife was Marika, as far as we know. One thing to remember is that Godfrey was banished by Marika. She replaced him with Radagon. He was the chieftan. Why wouldn't he father every child in his clan?
The entire thing was lore accurate, there was no filler, without this edits you would have a lot more questions than answers, the idea is that the game has to be incomplete for you to guess what really happened
@@camellia_vt of course, now I understand that much, sorry if I made it sound a certainty. But in my opinion, the devs deconstructed it so you could arrive to a incomplete narrative, and that makes it difficult to arrive to a specific or a true lore accurate conclussion. Even if it has cut content in it, it seems to be the closest thing to that we got. When you said that you wanted to watch it lore accurate, I take it that you meant the cinematics of this questline in order then? Loved your reactions!
@@camellia_vt probably cut it because it would make frenzied flame feel like a good or justifiable choice when it's actually genocide everything and everyone. Melt it all away in the yellow chaos flame
i really wish you would have reacted to the whole video, including the talking from Vaati at the end. He gave some answers to the questions that you asked.
What do you mean by "filler", it's cut content, but only because there wasn't time to finish it, just as several quests were only completed later with a patch.
@@camellia_vt Yes, it was filler because it was cut content, just as Miyazaki himself already said that the DLC was, only now they managed to complete it, but my guess is that they just didn't complete this Kalé quest, because he would go on a pilgrimage like other merchants and when elden ring came out there were no icons on them, So how would 90% of players who don't know how to look for anything find it, besides the fact that it's where Ranni's quest starts?
I like how that one guy in chat is like "It's confirmed, Melina is the Gloam-eyed Queen!" Bro she's Marika's daughter, clearly you haven't listened to all her lines. Or seen Vaati's stuff about her. Or... DLC spoilers Read Messmer's remembrance spell descroption.
I think Melina is both Marika’s daughter AND the Gloam Eyed Queen, and the Gloam Eyed Queen is a second entity that lives within her like the Abyssal Serpent and Messmer, The Scarlet Rot and Malenia, and Saint Trina and Miquella.
that is the only end that actually makes sense to me. This world is ducked up beyond everything and the only reasonable thing to do is end it and let there be something completely new and different. just like in DS. There has to be an end before something new can arise
@@camellia_vt yes but that cut content still relates directly to the story and the frenzied flame. Filler is pointless conjecture for the sake of padding. You can still infer everything about Kales quest through environmental story telling and item descriptions.
@@DirtSpud filler has multiple meanings. For me filler in this video is the cut content since it’s not in the game it’s extra stuff they put in the video to fill it up.
@@camellia_vt nah it relates directly to the actual facts of the story though. Shabriri slandering the merchants provided the suffering needed to manifest the frenzied flame in the capital. Kale and the merchants are DIRECTLY related to the story of the Frenzied Flame. They aren't just random mentions in the story. His ancestors were the direct cause of it through their unjust slandering by Shabriri. How can a group of people that are literally LINKED to the starting of the Frenzied Flame be counted as filler because an NPC quest line was cut to prevent redundancy from taking hold? Environmental story telling, item descriptions and a small snippet of dialogue from Kale himself, that is still in the game, conveys the overall point well enough. But Kale and his ancestors are directly related to the manifestation one of the powerful forces within the game world.
@@DirtSpud also idk if you payed attention to what I was saying. I was asking if the video had filler not telling people it has filler. Idk why you are trying to scold me on a question I asked. Regardless cut content is cut content
Imagine all the questions she asks is literally answered time and time again. If it's in the video, It's in the game or was cut content, and she just keeps asking. That is how you know that she's someone who played the game and didn't learn anything about it, expecting everyone else to give her the answers. Just read the descriptions of items, armours and weapons if you want to know the lore. So many streamers do this and it pisses me off, the game gives you everything you need to understand yet they remain ignorant.
Welcome to ADHD. What’s wrong with asking questions? What If I forgot it because I first beat the game 2 years ago. You might know more about Elden Ring but I like the game more. Sooooooo if you have nothing nice to say, you’ll just get trolled.
@@camellia_vt You like the game more? Talking to guy who has over 1,300 hours on the game, beaten the game multiple times, and still plays atleast 3 to 4 times a week. If you really loved the game you LEARN. And don't use ADHD as an excuse, I also have ADHD. Don't insult me.
And for some info on me, I was a full time carer for my mother for 7 years, whom passed away on June, video games has been my only escape from reality since I was looking after her 24/7 effectively killing my social life. People like you are what's fucking wrong in the world, just sheer fucking laziness, unable to make the effort to do a quick fucking google search.
"Descendant from Godfrey" doesn't have to mean that they are a direct offspring of Godfrey. That's basically what clans are. They are a group of people claiming to be descendants from a real and/or mythological figure. Biologically speaking, this kinship can be extremely tenuous or completely inexistant. That's why, in real life, you can have people claiming to be part of the "Clan of th wolf" because, according to them, they are all descendants from the same mythical wolf.
Kale dialogue and quest is cut from the game but the nomadic merchants are associated with the frenzied flame.
Yes this I know.
It is literally 'accurate lore wise.'
Only a few scenes were recreated.
I honestly think they fucked up by removing Kale's quest. It would've added so much to the frenzied flame ending.
It would of been so goood
honestly fromsoft missed a big opportunity with vyke lore. This dude is literally on the game cover. Not to mention how he looks and how he also fcked a dragon. If he wasn't strayed by frenzied flame he would probably have become an elden lord
The whole point of Vyke is being so honorable that he is easily manipulated. Sometimes you must be disonorable and do harsh choices to win.
It is all accurate lore wise.
There is no filler.
Apparently there was cut content in it.
@@camellia_vt Cales questline shown in video is cut content
Godfrey's first wife was Marika, as far as we know. One thing to remember is that Godfrey was banished by Marika. She replaced him with Radagon.
He was the chieftan. Why wouldn't he father every child in his clan?
Marika had a lot of kids, the stone golems with a bell under them had their unalive bodies.
The entire thing was lore accurate, there was no filler, without this edits you would have a lot more questions than answers, the idea is that the game has to be incomplete for you to guess what really happened
Apparently the Kale quest and lines were cut from the game. So it’s definitely not all lore accurate if it’s cut content.
@@camellia_vt of course, now I understand that much, sorry if I made it sound a certainty.
But in my opinion, the devs deconstructed it so you could arrive to a incomplete narrative, and that makes it difficult to arrive to a specific or a true lore accurate conclussion. Even if it has cut content in it, it seems to be the closest thing to that we got.
When you said that you wanted to watch it lore accurate, I take it that you meant the cinematics of this questline in order then?
Loved your reactions!
@@camellia_vt probably cut it because it would make frenzied flame feel like a good or justifiable choice when it's actually genocide everything and everyone. Melt it all away in the yellow chaos flame
This will forever be the coolest ending for me.
MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD
i really wish you would have reacted to the whole video, including the talking from Vaati at the end. He gave some answers to the questions that you asked.
There was something at the end?
This is like watching a goldfish react to the video
XD you are not wrong. But the gold fish would remember better
such a shame that some of the best voice acting in the game is cut content
I agree
What do you mean by "filler", it's cut content, but only because there wasn't time to finish it, just as several quests were only completed later with a patch.
Someone in chat said the video had filler and then someone corrected them that it was cut content
@@camellia_vt Yes, it was filler because it was cut content, just as Miyazaki himself already said that the DLC was, only now they managed to complete it, but my guess is that they just didn't complete this Kalé quest, because he would go on a pilgrimage like other merchants and when elden ring came out there were no icons on them,
So how would 90% of players who don't know how to look for anything find it, besides the fact that it's where Ranni's quest starts?
Prototype... Lets be real, this didnt confirm your theory about who melina was, it was the DLC that did...
I watched this before the DLC came out btw. And also I have not finished the DLC so please no spoilers
No eyes usually means Blind Faith.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I like how that one guy in chat is like "It's confirmed, Melina is the Gloam-eyed Queen!"
Bro she's Marika's daughter, clearly you haven't listened to all her lines. Or seen Vaati's stuff about her. Or...
DLC spoilers
Read Messmer's remembrance spell descroption.
I think Melina is both Marika’s daughter AND the Gloam Eyed Queen, and the Gloam Eyed Queen is a second entity that lives within her like the Abyssal Serpent and Messmer, The Scarlet Rot and Malenia, and Saint Trina and Miquella.
I have the impression that you don't really understand anything from this video XD
that is the only end that actually makes sense to me. This world is ducked up beyond everything and the only reasonable thing to do is end it and let there be something completely new and different. just like in DS. There has to be an end before something new can arise
Lmao I dont think uou understand the lore at all. There was no filler.
Ummmm the filer is the cut content from Kale. Cut as in not in the game as in Filer for the video.
@@camellia_vt yes but that cut content still relates directly to the story and the frenzied flame. Filler is pointless conjecture for the sake of padding. You can still infer everything about Kales quest through environmental story telling and item descriptions.
@@DirtSpud filler has multiple meanings. For me filler in this video is the cut content since it’s not in the game it’s extra stuff they put in the video to fill it up.
@@camellia_vt nah it relates directly to the actual facts of the story though. Shabriri slandering the merchants provided the suffering needed to manifest the frenzied flame in the capital. Kale and the merchants are DIRECTLY related to the story of the Frenzied Flame. They aren't just random mentions in the story. His ancestors were the direct cause of it through their unjust slandering by Shabriri. How can a group of people that are literally LINKED to the starting of the Frenzied Flame be counted as filler because an NPC quest line was cut to prevent redundancy from taking hold? Environmental story telling, item descriptions and a small snippet of dialogue from Kale himself, that is still in the game, conveys the overall point well enough. But Kale and his ancestors are directly related to the manifestation one of the powerful forces within the game world.
@@DirtSpud also idk if you payed attention to what I was saying. I was asking if the video had filler not telling people it has filler. Idk why you are trying to scold me on a question I asked. Regardless cut content is cut content
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Imagine all the questions she asks is literally answered time and time again. If it's in the video, It's in the game or was cut content, and she just keeps asking. That is how you know that she's someone who played the game and didn't learn anything about it, expecting everyone else to give her the answers. Just read the descriptions of items, armours and weapons if you want to know the lore. So many streamers do this and it pisses me off, the game gives you everything you need to understand yet they remain ignorant.
Welcome to ADHD. What’s wrong with asking questions? What If I forgot it because I first beat the game 2 years ago. You might know more about Elden Ring but I like the game more. Sooooooo if you have nothing nice to say, you’ll just get trolled.
@@camellia_vt You like the game more? Talking to guy who has over 1,300 hours on the game, beaten the game multiple times, and still plays atleast 3 to 4 times a week. If you really loved the game you LEARN. And don't use ADHD as an excuse, I also have ADHD. Don't insult me.
Sounds like you can’t take a joke. Maybe you should try touching some grass instead of all that grace 😜
@@camellia_vt Only joke I see is you, take the L, do some research if you really love it.
And for some info on me, I was a full time carer for my mother for 7 years, whom passed away on June, video games has been my only escape from reality since I was looking after her 24/7 effectively killing my social life. People like you are what's fucking wrong in the world, just sheer fucking laziness, unable to make the effort to do a quick fucking google search.