by taking a sledge hammer and beating on the rails while flexing the rails. it should relieve some of the stress and make the rails assume a new normal. otherwise heat . lots of heat but that is something more suited for a shop. like you said field expedient repair it just has to be good enough.
I knew that this frame would be springy-twisty, I was mostly concerned about that log snapping and sending itself off catapulting etc. Great work again ;)
that's Rock or sugar maple.... the stuff high end butcher block work tops are made out of, baseball bats, bowling alley floors, etc. true name is sugar maple, one of the hardest woods out there. It got the name rock maple from the properties it has
Great idea. Never thought about doing it that way before. Just give the frame a few taps with a heavy hammer on the frame where it was twisted should do the job. Hopefully the frame does not have any weak spots
I don't know why it works I just know it to take a #3 hammer beat it along the frame rails with it twisted and it only go back to about straight have a good day keep pushing
Hi John, I thought that would work. There was a bunch of us that thought it would. That hard maple is dam tough. Was worried that it might break but it didn't even hardly bend. Good enough for who it's for!!😀😀 Take care my friend!!! Your friend Al.
I would've never gotten so close to the frame while it was being tensioned to bend it back, let alone bow over it. You never know when a connection snaps off. Could have sent a bolthead or half of the frame into your guts.
btw, you got pins squeeking...you better remove them, grease them (if they are not shut...) put them back, and make sure you grease them properly from now on...its hard for mecanics to hear squeeking sounds....
Yes john, keep rollin i think you could have used a slightly different strategy. I think if you had used some heat out come couldve been better. I see problems down the road for this machine.
Of course it'll work. With a Set of forks I would've put the forks through where the pole was and set the heel on the other side, THEN reefed on it! That way the twist could be maxed on the lower part and you could move the upper to suit yourself BUT it worked just fine. AND it's not on the highway hauling grindings either! You did GOOD and a site less that $300K! THAT is what matters. It's PAID for and what little you have to put into it to get it back to going will be paid for right quickly when the saw starts singing. And you know you can swap sides with that saw like you were talking about too, pal! So Prayers, BLESSINGS and Goomerish and maybe Fishy Hugs!
In time that frame will go back the way it was. Steel has a memory and wants to go back to original form. We had a 19 axle trailer that twisted and then put in the yard because it was not usable. It sat for many months and went back to normal with out touching it.
Made for a great thumbnail and had to chuckle a bit too. But she's sweet now and got some more character to her too. You guys do car frames on your days off?
Good work... video came up as some random while searching for the new Stihl MS500. growing up logging I can appreciate this 100%. Now that I'm in the welding/repair/fabrication field, Id suggest leaving a log on it to preload it, heat up the contours of the frame with a rosebud torch. you can also take a heavy dead blow sledge (the plastic ones with steel shot inside) as it is preloaded to help relive some of the self induced stress points to help relax it. Keep an eye those welds.
Easy to get square a quarter hour after it rolled, but the next day the metal has set :o) Makes you think about the forces involved to bend all the bent bits in that one accident.
“That used to barely fit in there...”. Still does barely fit in there!! LOL Keep rolling John! You have a great attitude and I appreciate you and your hard work and can do attitude!
Who says we need to cal in outside mechanics? If the loggers down south can fix it with minimal tools so can we. Both down south and up in Michigan to. Use an old quote " WE CAN DO IT!!!!!!! " it won't be purtty but it will do the job when we're done fixing her. See? There is a use for old demolition concrete chunks!!!! I can remember seeing this done back in 56 and the owner who directed the old Bucyrus crane old cable sucker from WW II ex US Army a local wrecker service told him he would never get it out of there on a Thursday, Friday afternoon he went out of his way to drive by his shop with it loaded on a flatbed stopped at his shop simply to spend $.10 cents to buy two bottles of Coca-Cola one for him and one for me which surprised the devil out of me. It was an excavator on an old CCKW chassis and it had a cable operated backhoe on it and it was back to work the following Monday. The job site was only half a mile from my house and it took me 15 minutes on my new one speed bicycle from xmas. Nice job guys and for recognizing you needed professional wrecker services. Cheers!!!
Hay John your king pin on the slasher you might put a semi fifth wheel plate upside down recessed for the truck to back under and hook up your we’re talking about having to stick the boom in the ground to lift it it might help solve your problem.just a thought
Funny seeing someone rig up chains for rock like it's a log. Rock and concrete dont need choked with chains only if it's a cable. It still worked I know. I just think it was funny.
Very nice, very nice. Love the method. Yankee ingenuity at its finest. This reminds me of something i would do lol. Reminds me of trying to straighten a trailer axle after hitting a stump in the center. Got it pretty straight too.
That repair is "good enough" to get it back to the shop where more permanent repairs can be effected. Doesn't look like that would be the first frame work that machine has had either.
When you have such long hoses between the pump and valve I guess you already know you have to bleed off the air because of the short stroke of cylinder.
This is a classic case of the elastic limit on the stress-strain curve being exceeded. The steel in various places exceeded the elastic limit, and strain was introduced, with no appreciable stress (load carrying capacity). Basic strength of materials in any college level course. When twisting back, the permanent set in the strain curve was not erased, although the stress levels may have returned to zero. In other words, a permanent plastic set was left in the steel members in some places, never to be removed. The frame may have been returned to a horizontal position, but that does not mean permanent inherent stress levels through the frame were returned to their former levels. Since there are internal stresses not there previously, the frame will probably undergo some distortion, returning to a slight non-horizontal position. The stress will attempt to redistribute itself when it is moved, put under further loads when the slasher is moved, and put into operation. Don't be surprised to see it move a bit after you use it for while. You may have helped alleviate some of that, if you would have driven it around the yard for some distance, then looked to see if you big stick could have been used to reset it again in a better way. Probably the biggest variant stress levels in the frame will happen when you hook up the fifth wheel and tow it to another site, and drag it through some rough terrain (Yes, I am sure that will happen ;-) ) In any case, kudos for the strategy and execution of a plan.
Good job done!! 👏🏻 So glad something didn’t happen to you when you walked up on that while straightening it. Good video looks like things are getting back to full production and no 🔥! Lol “Please Be safe” and as you say keep on rolling!
Told you so......... We have straightened log trailer frames like that. I would clean it up good enough to check all the welded joints and touch them up if need be. Glad it all worked out.
A true bush fix. Beats the daylights out of a new replacement. Fun to watch problem solving real time.
by taking a sledge hammer and beating on the rails while flexing the rails. it should relieve some of the stress and make the rails assume a new normal. otherwise heat . lots of heat but that is something more suited for a shop. like you said field expedient repair it just has to be good enough.
I knew that this frame would be springy-twisty, I was mostly concerned about that log snapping and sending itself off catapulting etc. Great work again ;)
The hard maple did the trick!
I can't believe how stiff that maple is. I figured it would at least bow, adding to the pucker factor!
that's Rock or sugar maple.... the stuff high end butcher block work tops are made out of, baseball bats, bowling alley floors, etc. true name is sugar maple, one of the hardest woods out there. It got the name rock maple from the properties it has
@@Freakingstang Thanks for the info. In Az, all we have are Rock's...no maples. Ha!
Some do and make the world go round, everyone else just hangs on. You are a doer, well done.
Thanks!!
Yay Me ,, lol at least I was one of many who spoke of a log leaver ,,, lolol Glad it worked ,, Regards John
Standing that close to the action all the time is going to bite you one of these days.
Just like new
Some of us lads have been through this before John that's why our ideas work lol
Great idea. Never thought about doing it that way before. Just give the frame a few taps with a heavy hammer on the frame where it was twisted should do the job. Hopefully the frame does not have any weak spots
Y'all have enough mountain dew bottles there to fill 3 chip trailers lol
Put a little paint on it and it will be new and probably have a warranty on it 👍
👍
Bryon 6180 stole my comment.lol
@@ThatChipperGuy Custom by crash and crunch!
YOu can add the welding.
Great minds think alike 😂
Isn't it odd, it only took about 30 seconds to bend the frame and yet it took 30 minutes to straighten it.
I don't know why it works I just know it to take a #3 hammer beat it along the frame rails with it twisted and it only go back to about straight have a good day keep pushing
Just a sledge hammer... distress the metal. Not sure how much itd work with the steel this cold
Total carnage. Lol. I had faith in you guys!
Hi John, I thought that would work. There was a bunch of us that thought it would. That hard maple is dam tough. Was worried that it might break but it didn't even hardly bend.
Good enough for who it's for!!😀😀
Take care my friend!!!
Your friend Al.
ha-ha thats was i was thinking ! cool beans good luck buddy !
I would've never gotten so close to the frame while it was being tensioned to bend it back, let alone bow over it. You never know when a connection snaps off. Could have sent a bolthead or half of the frame into your guts.
Should have wacked it with a sled while it was under pressure it relieves the stress in the metal helps it stay in place
Glad the suggestion worked I had no doubts about it not working nicely done.
btw, you got pins squeeking...you better remove them, grease them (if they are not shut...) put them back, and make sure you grease them properly from now on...its hard for mecanics to hear squeeking sounds....
May need a tune up over the next couple months, eventually it will settle in and stay straight.
those are good old loaders i had a early 80.s 160 with the dog leg heel boom loved it !
It just keeps on tickin!!
Congrats on no major repair to get it back close in shape! Love ya videos
I m impressed that that worked that well ! Another job well done.
Bet you didn't care for my burn it comment....I was just kidding by the way. Thanks for the video.
Yes john, keep rollin i think you could have used a slightly different strategy. I think if you had used some heat out come couldve been better. I see problems down the road for this machine.
Time will tell
Of course it'll work. With a Set of forks I would've put the forks through where the pole was and set the heel on the other side, THEN reefed on it! That way the twist could be maxed on the lower part and you could move the upper to suit yourself BUT it worked just fine. AND it's not on the highway hauling grindings either! You did GOOD and a site less that $300K! THAT is what matters. It's PAID for and what little you have to put into it to get it back to going will be paid for right quickly when the saw starts singing. And you know you can swap sides with that saw like you were talking about too, pal! So Prayers, BLESSINGS and Goomerish and maybe Fishy Hugs!
Tweaked her back, good job ty for the entertainment
In time that frame will go back the way it was. Steel has a memory and wants to go back to original form. We had a 19 axle trailer that twisted and then put in the yard because it was not usable. It sat for many months and went back to normal with out touching it.
just another day in the woods nothing to see here !!!!! keep on pluggin !!!!
Made for a great thumbnail and had to chuckle a bit too. But she's sweet now and got some more character to her too. You guys do car frames on your days off?
Noooo!! Thanks for watching
Great job. I knew you could do it!
Great idea with the maple......if you can pinpoint your actual bend spot and put a lil heat to it with the torch she should stay in place
one way of doing it .. glad it worked out
If you have anxiety DO NOT watch this video!!!! Hahaha
GLAD THAT LOG WORKED GREAT JOB DONE GREAT MECHANICS GREAT CREW
That Chipper Guy frame and body shop! Could be the start of another business venture! 😉
How’s it going I take it things are going on the up also lol frame straightening101 with chipper
Hope you welded some more metal on that after twisting it like that
The log worked good improvise adapt and overcome will be runnin like new soon hope the week goes better John
Great job 👍
Well done John it worked
good as new! you do really quick an easy body work
shake the wheel when u start them ole deere skidders
Good job
Don’t forget to weld that crack
Good work... video came up as some random while searching for the new Stihl MS500. growing up logging I can appreciate this 100%. Now that I'm in the welding/repair/fabrication field, Id suggest leaving a log on it to preload it, heat up the contours of the frame with a rosebud torch. you can also take a heavy dead blow sledge (the plastic ones with steel shot inside) as it is preloaded to help relive some of the self induced stress points to help relax it. Keep an eye those welds.
if it fits it ships so send er
I have used Mold Weld 750 welding rod to fix cast manifolds before, works great no preheat and only a slow cool. have had great luck with this rod.
Easy to get square a quarter hour after it rolled, but the next day the metal has set :o) Makes you think about the forces involved to bend all the bent bits in that one accident.
“That used to barely fit in there...”. Still does barely fit in there!! LOL Keep rolling John! You have a great attitude and I appreciate you and your hard work and can do attitude!
Whoever welded that fame for that kingpin is the man. Holyfuckingweld
Who says we need to cal in outside mechanics? If the loggers down south can fix it with minimal tools so can we.
Both down south and up in Michigan to. Use an old quote " WE CAN DO IT!!!!!!! " it won't be purtty but it will do the job when we're done fixing her. See? There is a use for old demolition concrete chunks!!!!
I can remember seeing this done back in 56 and the owner who directed the old Bucyrus crane old cable sucker from WW II ex US Army a local wrecker service told him he would never get it out of there on a Thursday, Friday afternoon he went out of his way to drive by his shop with it loaded on a flatbed stopped at his shop simply to spend $.10 cents to buy two bottles of Coca-Cola one for him and one for me which surprised the devil out of me. It was an excavator on an old CCKW chassis and it had a cable operated backhoe on it and it was back to work the following Monday. The job site was only half a mile from my house and it took me 15 minutes on my new one speed bicycle from xmas.
Nice job guys and for recognizing you needed professional wrecker services.
Cheers!!!
Great job great video
Now that was slick
Hay John your king pin on the slasher you might put a semi fifth wheel plate upside down recessed for the truck to back under and hook up your we’re talking about having to stick the boom in the ground to lift it it might help solve your problem.just a thought
Funny seeing someone rig up chains for rock like it's a log. Rock and concrete dont need choked with chains only if it's a cable. It still worked I know. I just think it was funny.
Its amazing how quiet the 535D is. You were filming right next to it and hardly made a sound.
Very nice, very nice. Love the method. Yankee ingenuity at its finest. This reminds me of something i would do lol.
Reminds me of trying to straighten a trailer axle after hitting a stump in the center. Got it pretty straight too.
I had my doubts Mr John,but that loader may just be built for prescission adjustments. Lol
Brilliant. I don't care what they say about you John, you're pretty clever.
Pretty good fix next time you got to pull concrete out use a choker chain works better but we'll don't again
That repair is "good enough" to get it back to the shop where more permanent repairs can be effected. Doesn't look like that would be the first frame work that machine has had either.
I would of just kept putting more pressure on it to spring it back until it started to sound expensive, then back it off a bit lol
What was that popping your Torque wrench!!! LOL.
When you have such long hoses between the pump and valve I guess you already know you have to bleed off the air because of the short stroke of cylinder.
I did not realize that the crane powered down as well. Very good job. Now all you have to do is turn the saw around.
Barko bends but it don’t break. That should be their new slogan!
Well big John what a last few weeks well done and I love the way you worked it out with no drama.good on you guys.
Coming right along be good as new once everything is done. Keep up the great videos
Thats exactly what i was thinking to straighten the frame put a log in it and twist it back
you have it twisted now with it twisted beat with a hammer that is what they do with car frames and trailers frames
Glad to see that worked without breaking something.
When its band just hit the frame with a sledgehammer!!!!
My uncle has the same machine except his has the buzz saw blade
I knw when that thing came out of the ditch you would be twisting on it with a saw log.
LOL awesome, no worse for the wear. It's got character and a story
This is a classic case of the elastic limit on the stress-strain curve being exceeded. The steel in various places exceeded the elastic limit, and strain was introduced, with no appreciable stress (load carrying capacity). Basic strength of materials in any college level course. When twisting back, the permanent set in the strain curve was not erased, although the stress levels may have returned to zero. In other words, a permanent plastic set was left in the steel members in some places, never to be removed. The frame may have been returned to a horizontal position, but that does not mean permanent inherent stress levels through the frame were returned to their former levels. Since there are internal stresses not there previously, the frame will probably undergo some distortion, returning to a slight non-horizontal position. The stress will attempt to redistribute itself when it is moved, put under further loads when the slasher is moved, and put into operation. Don't be surprised to see it move a bit after you use it for while. You may have helped alleviate some of that, if you would have driven it around the yard for some distance, then looked to see if you big stick could have been used to reset it again in a better way. Probably the biggest variant stress levels in the frame will happen when you hook up the fifth wheel and tow it to another site, and drag it through some rough terrain (Yes, I am sure that will happen ;-) )
In any case, kudos for the strategy and execution of a plan.
As we used to say in the army good enough for government work
DID MIKE BUY THAT AT ISON EQUIPMENT YEARS AGO?
Junk
Nice job boyz. Just keep rollin
I think you would say You got her done, no?
Get two strait beam pices an weld a new front on her
whats that machine called, its weird looking
Slasher
thx
Im impressed that worked great use it dude
Why was there concrete above the steer axle?
Just buy a new 559c cat loader
Good job done!! 👏🏻 So glad something didn’t happen to you when you walked up on that while straightening it. Good video looks like things are getting back to full production and no 🔥! Lol “Please Be safe” and as you say keep on rolling!
Thanks UL
nicely done. did not think of that method.
Told you so......... We have straightened log trailer frames like that. I would clean it up good enough to check all the welded joints and touch them up if need be. Glad it all worked out.
👍👍
Good job tho. saves boss man some cash lol
I like it,machine fixed itself
good work boyz !
Looks good enough from here too me.
Yes it worked i knew it would.
You sure got some balls standing that close to that log when he’s doing that I would never do that myself lol
i call that idiot ,,that logging show there is no safety at all and one day will be to late
Great job.
At least it sounds sweet lol