If you are that woman ya ukthi.... Let me add to what my shaykh YQ just said.... Pls take care of that child like it yours....ignore it belonging to another woman .... You don't know his future...he may be the only one standing by you later on, while the ones you gave birth to leave you behind .... He may be more successful later on Life than yours. However you treat that child today .. remember children don't forget things... Telling you all these from experiences of two families it once occur to....pls Grab that child and raise him like it yours, even better than yours... Your sabr with him may be your ticket to jannah... Salam❤️❤️❤️
The same way this child doesn't get any financial support, he should never be obligated to help in the house. Or support the parents when they're old. It goes both ways. You reap what you sow. If you're a parent to your child, he will be a son back to you
JZAK Doctor I always have some of the issues that you explained Allhamdulilah I have relived. Humans are not perfect may Allah forgives our shortcomings and give long life to our ulmah
May Allah reward the sheik the way he clarifies the issues. Seen some imaams been harsh and says every bad possible thing to these kind of children . Have a friend of mine , he is eligitimate and I believe it’s not his fault , but when even imaams say bad thinks or never give a daughter to this kind it breaks my hearth seeing him been punished for what his parents did.
A child is a gift from Allah. Wether illegitimate or not. You want to hate a muslim because of a mistake they made, bring them close so that they learn more
This point I am not really understanding, they say the child is sinless, but then say the father doesn't have to support. So who will, the mother? Why is she being punished for the sin of both? Also, this child, whose name are they going to take? The father or mother? I heard some scholars saying it is after the mother, this seems unfair, like a child born into a legitimate relationship is after the father, but illegitimate is after the mother.
@@jooone9864 you have to understand this is not western government law this is Sharia law of Islamic belief and because in Islam Zina (formulation before marriage) is haram the children are not a financial responsibility for the father it sounds unfair but this is not supposed to benefit zina then everyone would do it Women would have a financial gain to do it and never get married and it would only cause more chaos as zina in itself already causes a lot of chaos because the child will grow up in a separated house which we also do not like and maybe the parents don’t even like each other which is also not liked in Islam and so on Stay away from zina Marry and then do intercourse you are free to have children and they are legally tied to you
@@eldertoguro1 it’s the act that gets punished and in order to prevent it that’s the law you are free to financially support them regardless and by western law you are obligated But the Islamic law is made like this so it doesn’t attract people to do it
Everything via This-Video, regarding treating Children via al-Qist/Justice (regardless of whether they're Legitimate or Illegitimate) is predicated upon what Allah states: "And never let your hatred, against any People, prevent you from behaving justly.". (Noble-Qur'ān: Chpt.5, V.8)
You said if DNA proved that this is another man’s kid he still takes the husband’s name, what happened to call them to their fathers and linage mixture so now he is referred to the husband not the man whom the woman slept with and now he can marry from his real father’s family including sisters?!?! May Allah protect us all
There's 2 Major-Things which must always be considered, regarding This-Issue: a. The Ahkām of an-Nasb/Genealogy & al-Mīrāth/Inheritance dosen't apply to anyone whom had Children prior to being Muslim-Reverts. b. The Ahkām of an-Nasb & al-Mīrāth doesen't apply to Non-Muslims.
Parents were married quite young to prevent such major sins like zina adultery. They are fully aware of the children desires and needs yet the choose not to either help or support the children to hurry and marry. Angry and sad at the sane time selfishness ignorance and greed leads to these types of unislamic situations
السلام عليكم And living in a world , including historical muslim majority countries and current muslim majority countries, complicates things more. May Allah protect us.
The husband was wrong and already betrayed his wife to be with deception. He should have told her as it will have a impact on her. She has a right to get a khula and leave him.
The rules of Quran very clear that sleeping around will take u to hell( major sin its in Quran you can play yourself by saying Allah for giving when you marry & protect one another )!!! So marriage in Islam Allah made it extremely easy process to married. There isn’t none excuse. We’re the one playing the game which most ppl wi tell you don’t have time for games. We just forget that we play ourselves.
As Salam Walaykum. After hearing this lecture, I have 2 questions. If you could answer (even by yes or no) it would be very helpful. There is a couple that I know (the man is a Muslim, the woman isn't) and she got pregnant. 6 months later they went to a courthouse and got married (in America). The man was advised to get married Islamically but he didn't saying that it didn't matter. Is there marriage valid and their unborn child illegitimate? Jazaka Allahu Khairan.
A very interesting and informative lecture but I am a bit surprised that it's not wajib on the biological father to support the child especially hearing modern scholar taking the sensible position they're taking but let's say it falls under the concept of Islamic intellectual deduced reasoning when no clear rulings are available and the result does not encourages sin but benefits for the greater good and Allah is the knower
I will be putting in my marriage contract, that if she has a past that she has not told me about and i have not accepted it, then i do not and will never accept this marriage
Brother tbh most women will be offended by this. If a woman has a past and you find out then ask a shaykh if you may file for divorce, no need to put in wedding contract
@BD-hm3fb i am a man of much worth so i can do that. Women now a days are experiencing extreme amounts of self worth inflation. If you have real experience of women from every angel you would know i mean
My husband has two children from a previous relationship- he was never married to her Islamically! Do I need to maintain a relationship with them as I have 0 interest and Isit ok for my husband to continue to maintain that relationship without any effort from my part. Also do they have rights to inheritance?
If you can afford it and she's single and willing bring her in as a junior wife, then the child is provided for, if she's not willing or she wants to marry someone else then you'll have to part ways, him bringing the kid around all the time and leaving the problem unsolved is causing an issue, solve the problem to the best of your ability and then ask forgiveness from God for your sin
Getting married does not fix the sin, nor does it somehow put them in a better state. They need to repent for their sins first and be sincere in their repentance. Only then should they consider whether they are compatible with each other for marriage. The first step when commiting sins should be remorse. Then afterwards, work on fixing it.
Salaam, With respect to the classical position, my take on the case of the unlawful biological father is very simple: He is no different than a thieft who stole a "property" from an owner (The father of the woman). He cannot claim any benefit for the use of the "property". Therefore, a child born under such circumstance is de facto considered as belonging to his/her maternal grandfather. The sanctity of marriage requires the consent of the woman's father (assuming that he is alive with full mental capacity) before any eligible candidate can claim any right over her. However, if the grandfather cannot assume the full responsibility of the financial burden imposed on him by these circumstances, he has the right to seek compensation from the offender(unlawful father) through mutual agreements or any legal recourse. Divine laws exist for good reasons. Although their interpretations are subject to differences among scholars, they do serve in essence their purpose.
The child is not the benefit of the father, the father benefits the child. It is unfair that the child grows up fatherless just because their mother was unwise. Also, some less moraly educated brother would take this as permission to have fun without any (earthly) consequences. Astaghfarullah.
Sheikh keeps saying the child doesn't have any fault in this but the child is getting all the punishment how is this fair why does he not take after his real father
This seems to be a very broad topic. But shaykh concluded it under 24 minutes mostly by just stating the final rulings and not giving dalail etc. as he usually does. So I think those who're interested more, should go to other more elaborated resources rather than asking questions in condescending tone. If you know any such resources, plz share them in replies to this comment.
An ' Illegitimate' child. Smh.... isn't the child Real?.... or did the woman give birth to a 'fake ' child/ human being? The ' act' that produced the child may have been illegal..... but that beautiful innocent child should be free of Blame and Shame, The jews accused Jesus of being born of fornication..... " Go not nigh unto fornication ' Love the child.....
default laws dosen’t make any sense whos supposed to take care of the child financially if he or she is born out of wedlock why isn’t it the biological fathers or parents responsibility to take care of a life that they brought into the world seems disgusting tbh seems like opressive law towards women
I think divorce is best solution for this woman. Because it is really not to possible to obey your last sentence.He is not her father but he want to be a father of them. If he give money of them it's okay but meet them and when they will be 18years old they called him father is it Islam? When they are 18 years old that time does he mahram of them?This family has another child and the women can't be focusing to her child. The women want to also religious but also many time want to commit suicide. Her heart really broken. There is no justice in the world . This woman can ask Allah for justice so that her husband will be judged well. Here, the woman's life is ruined. Pls tell her husband to give divorce papers it will be easy for women.May Allah give everyone a good husband.
May Allah protect us from such a scenario, but the child is innocents and deserves to be treated in dignified manner.
If you are that woman ya ukthi.... Let me add to what my shaykh YQ just said.... Pls take care of that child like it yours....ignore it belonging to another woman .... You don't know his future...he may be the only one standing by you later on, while the ones you gave birth to leave you behind .... He may be more successful later on Life than yours. However you treat that child today .. remember children don't forget things... Telling you all these from experiences of two families it once occur to....pls Grab that child and raise him like it yours, even better than yours... Your sabr with him may be your ticket to jannah... Salam❤️❤️❤️
MashaAllah💙💙💙
💝💝
Its easier to say than do
Child is not to be attributed to the biological father period!
Excellent advice. I hope the lady opens her heart. No-one knows what is written in our kismet. Be a good Muslim sister. May Allah reward you.
The same way this child doesn't get any financial support, he should never be obligated to help in the house. Or support the parents when they're old. It goes both ways. You reap what you sow. If you're a parent to your child, he will be a son back to you
So, who will support this sinless child?
Man be quiet this is Islam not hislam save all the emotional stuff !!
Very interesting. May God protect us from Zina and these accompanying issues.
Came across this Q&A after finishing my Family Law notes for the week. Subhanallah
SubhanAllah
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
JZAK Doctor I always have some of the issues that you explained Allhamdulilah I have relived. Humans are not perfect may Allah forgives our shortcomings and give long life to our ulmah
May Allah reward the sheik the way he clarifies the issues. Seen some imaams been harsh and says every bad possible thing to these kind of children . Have a friend of mine , he is eligitimate and I believe it’s not his fault , but when even imaams say bad thinks or never give a daughter to this kind it breaks my hearth seeing him been punished for what his parents did.
The way the non Muslims congratulate others for having illegitimate children. Subhanallah. May Allah guide them.
Our laws are different than biological laws … wow
A child is a gift from Allah. Wether illegitimate or not. You want to hate a muslim because of a mistake they made, bring them close so that they learn more
If the child is blameless why should he not be given support by the father. It is the father's responsibility. Where else is the child suppose to go?
This point I am not really understanding, they say the child is sinless, but then say the father doesn't have to support. So who will, the mother? Why is she being punished for the sin of both? Also, this child, whose name are they going to take? The father or mother? I heard some scholars saying it is after the mother, this seems unfair, like a child born into a legitimate relationship is after the father, but illegitimate is after the mother.
@@jooone9864 bastard will carry name of mother's family
If the women from begining didn't lay a man it couldn't a child (my opinion)
@@jooone9864 you have to understand this is not western government law this is Sharia law of Islamic belief and because in Islam Zina (formulation before marriage) is haram the children are not a financial responsibility for the father it sounds unfair but this is not supposed to benefit zina then everyone would do it
Women would have a financial gain to do it and never get married and it would only cause more chaos as zina in itself already causes a lot of chaos because the child will grow up in a separated house which we also do not like and maybe the parents don’t even like each other which is also not liked in Islam and so on
Stay away from zina
Marry and then do intercourse you are free to have children and they are legally tied to you
@@Bd-mq8td so the child gets punished and the father gets off free?
@@eldertoguro1 it’s the act that gets punished and in order to prevent it that’s the law you are free to financially support them regardless and by western law you are obligated
But the Islamic law is made like this so it doesn’t attract people to do it
May Allah reward you better Ameen
Zina is one of the greatest sin, it's said that even not to come close to it...
The country with Sharia law is most beneficial to this kind of human activities. الحمد لله رب العالمين اللهم اهدنا الصراط المستقيم يا رب العالمين
Everything via This-Video, regarding treating Children via al-Qist/Justice (regardless of whether they're Legitimate or Illegitimate) is predicated upon what Allah states: "And never let your hatred, against any People, prevent you from behaving justly.".
(Noble-Qur'ān: Chpt.5, V.8)
Brilliant answer Sheikh Yasir Qadhi
Sir.you are perfect teaching.yes.child is free.children are Gift of God.Love is GOD.(From A Richard Paul Chaudary.
You said if DNA proved that this is another man’s kid he still takes the husband’s name, what happened to call them to their fathers and linage mixture so now he is referred to the husband not the man whom the woman slept with and now he can marry from his real father’s family including sisters?!?! May Allah protect us all
I completely agree with This-Video 💯%.
I fully respect the Objectivity of This-Video.
There's 2 Major-Things which must always be considered, regarding This-Issue:
a. The Ahkām of an-Nasb/Genealogy & al-Mīrāth/Inheritance dosen't apply to anyone whom had Children prior to being Muslim-Reverts.
b. The Ahkām of an-Nasb & al-Mīrāth doesen't apply to Non-Muslims.
Can you please speak about child labourers in the Muslim world?
Respectfully respectfully respectfully respectfully
Parents were married quite young to prevent such major sins like zina adultery.
They are fully aware of the children desires and needs yet the choose not to either help or support the children to hurry and marry.
Angry and sad at the sane time selfishness ignorance and greed leads to these types of unislamic situations
السلام عليكم
And living in a world , including historical muslim majority countries and current muslim majority countries, complicates things more. May Allah protect us.
Jazakallahu Khayran Ahsanul Jaza
The husband was wrong and already betrayed his wife to be with deception. He should have told her as it will have a impact on her.
She has a right to get a khula and leave him.
Salaam from Nottingham Uk
Excellent answer sheikh!
The rules of Quran very clear that sleeping around will take u to hell( major sin its in Quran you can play yourself by saying Allah for giving when you marry & protect one another )!!! So marriage in Islam Allah made it extremely easy process to married. There isn’t none excuse. We’re the one playing the game which most ppl wi tell you don’t have time for games. We just forget that we play ourselves.
As Salam Walaykum. After hearing this lecture, I have 2 questions. If you could answer (even by yes or no) it would be very helpful. There is a couple that I know (the man is a Muslim, the woman isn't) and she got pregnant. 6 months later they went to a courthouse and got married (in America). The man was advised to get married Islamically but he didn't saying that it didn't matter. Is there marriage valid and their unborn child illegitimate? Jazaka Allahu Khairan.
Im not qualified but if there are no nikkah then they are no married islamically. Its common sense really
What if the two were married but only by State Law, not by Islam? Is the biological father responsible for maintenance?
A very interesting and informative lecture but I am a bit surprised that it's not wajib on the biological father to support the child especially hearing modern scholar taking the sensible position they're taking but let's say it falls under the concept of Islamic intellectual deduced reasoning when no clear rulings are available and the result does not encourages sin but benefits for the greater good and Allah is the knower
I will be putting in my marriage contract, that if she has a past that she has not told me about and i have not accepted it, then i do not and will never accept this marriage
Brother tbh most women will be offended by this. If a woman has a past and you find out then ask a shaykh if you may file for divorce, no need to put in wedding contract
@BD-hm3fb i am a man of much worth so i can do that. Women now a days are experiencing extreme amounts of self worth inflation. If you have real experience of women from every angel you would know i mean
He is not allowed to marry his sisters but they should wear hijab in front of him.This is illogical
Thats the position.. To avoid worse situation
Since he's not allowed to marry them meaning is compulsory for them to wear hijab around him
@@sithembisosifunda3658 but the law is opposite:a woman should wear hijab in front of someone who is allowed to marry her
The kid is not allowed to marry the stepmother
This is the Islamic position. Your logic is irrelevant
My husband has two children from a previous relationship- he was never married to her Islamically! Do I need to maintain a relationship with them as I have 0 interest and Isit ok for my husband to continue to maintain that relationship without any effort from my part. Also do they have rights to inheritance?
So interesting, thanks sheikh 😘
JazakAllah Khairan Shaykh
If you can afford it and she's single and willing bring her in as a junior wife, then the child is provided for, if she's not willing or she wants to marry someone else then you'll have to part ways, him bringing the kid around all the time and leaving the problem unsolved is causing an issue, solve the problem to the best of your ability and then ask forgiveness from God for your sin
Allah yahdina🙏🏻
JazakalLahu khairan. But Shaykh, Evian is made in France, right? I am of the opinion it should be boycotted, but Allahu a'alam.
What about the aayah that says male gprnicator should marry female fornicator?
What if the two couples commit zina before marriage and are pregnant but haven't given birth yet ? Can't they get married before the child is born ?
Getting married does not fix the sin, nor does it somehow put them in a better state. They need to repent for their sins first and be sincere in their repentance. Only then should they consider whether they are compatible with each other for marriage. The first step when commiting sins should be remorse. Then afterwards, work on fixing it.
Great answer
Salaam,
With respect to the classical position, my take on the case of the unlawful biological father is very simple: He is no different than a thieft who stole a "property" from an owner (The father of the woman). He cannot claim any benefit for the use of the "property".
Therefore, a child born under such circumstance is de facto considered as belonging to his/her maternal grandfather.
The sanctity of marriage requires the consent of the woman's father (assuming that he is alive with full mental capacity) before any eligible candidate can claim any right over her.
However, if the grandfather cannot assume the full responsibility of the financial burden imposed on him by these circumstances, he has the right to seek compensation from the offender(unlawful father) through mutual agreements or any legal recourse.
Divine laws exist for good reasons.
Although their interpretations are subject to differences among scholars, they do serve in essence their purpose.
The child is not the benefit of the father, the father benefits the child. It is unfair that the child grows up fatherless just because their mother was unwise. Also, some less moraly educated brother would take this as permission to have fun without any (earthly) consequences. Astaghfarullah.
That's sick
Sheikh keeps saying the child doesn't have any fault in this but the child is getting all the punishment how is this fair why does he not take after his real father
This seems to be a very broad topic. But shaykh concluded it under 24 minutes mostly by just stating the final rulings and not giving dalail etc. as he usually does.
So I think those who're interested more, should go to other more elaborated resources rather than asking questions in condescending tone.
If you know any such resources, plz share them in replies to this comment.
If there no responsibilities towards the father, women will probably get married before have sex
An ' Illegitimate' child. Smh.... isn't the child Real?.... or did the woman give birth to a 'fake ' child/ human being?
The ' act' that produced the child may have been illegal..... but that beautiful innocent child should be free of Blame and Shame,
The jews accused Jesus of being born of fornication.....
" Go not nigh unto fornication '
Love the child.....
My question is, what if you marry that same lady? Still the kid isn't yours ?
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
default laws dosen’t make any sense whos supposed to take care of the child financially if he or she is born out of wedlock why isn’t it the biological fathers or parents responsibility to take care of a life that they brought into the world seems disgusting tbh seems like opressive law towards women
The laws are there to protect women from this type of shit
@@JohnDoe-nh1ll the biological father should have to take care of the child too
I think divorce is best solution for this woman. Because it is really not to possible to obey your last sentence.He is not her father but he
want to be a father of them. If he give money of them it's okay but meet them and when they will be 18years old they called him father is it Islam? When they are 18 years old that time does he mahram of them?This family has another child and the women can't be focusing to her child. The women want to also religious but also many time want to commit suicide. Her heart really broken. There is no justice in the world . This woman can ask Allah for justice so that her husband will be judged well. Here, the woman's life is ruined. Pls tell her husband to give divorce papers it will be easy for women.May Allah give everyone a good husband.