Man when kyler said “you were JUST in the grooming stage” I gasped. It doesn’t matter how far he went, that fact is he did some really inappropriate things to a young child, who clearly didn’t go into detail of some horrific experiences she had. Im so sorry Madison. Your pain is valid. So valid. You didn’t deserve what happened to you. You must of been so scared and confused. I hope Kyler apologizes for playing it off.
@@McAttinsYESS saying she’s “lucky” that she wasn’t raped???? That’s insane. Imagine your own husband saying that. There’s a way to word things and that was probably the WORST way to put it
It is true that the level of abuse could have been "worse" if you want to use that word, but the trauma is the same. It is dangerous to use that statement, if anybody who listened to this heard "just the grooming phase" can easily minimize what they have gone through or are going through and never get help. Please don't minimize any kind of abuse, it is so damaging
@@charlottefroese663 It doesn't feel the same though. Rape is about 1000 times worse, same with molestation. People are just very strong and are able to heal.
Kyler’s response to Madison’s story infuriates me!! I’m a victim of SA and he is so clueless and ignorant regarding this topic and it’s so sad!! Madison you’re so strong!!! Thanks for sharing your story even though you were vulnerable, you’re not alone.
Kyler… man… Madison is so strong for continuing to talk about her story while her husband is invalidating her experiences. The sunglasses, getting up, laptop open, very disrespectful. “You were lucky”. I understand he was trying to be positive in the fact that it didn’t get as far as Robert had planned too. But she didn’t even explain every gruesome detail and I can tell that it traumatized her. I’m so sorry for what you went through. Kyler please educate yourself.
Were u not listening his laptop was open cuz they have the story on it incase she forgot anything he got up cuz someone Was at the door then one of the kids yelled so he got up for that to.
Wow...Kylers body language, and his comments saying she's lucky and "it was just the grooming phase" it was disgusting to hear. Yes I understand what he 'meant' but still. Don't ever tell a victim that. Show some compassion. Proud of you Madison for speaking out, it takes a lot of strength and courage❤️
I’m sorry but “you were lucky” and “it was just the grooming phase” rubbed me the wrong way. I really hope your husband understands the pain this has caused you as a little girl. I can’t even fathom going through that. You’re so strong for forgiving this bastard because I don’t know if I could. God bless you.
Madison you were not lucky!! Kyler saying “Just the grooming stage” is so wrong, saying “JUST” downplays the whole situation so much. All my love to Madison, you are so incredibly strong! ❤❤❤
This is the first time I’ve listened to her podcast and she seems like such a sweet, gentle soul. Him on the other hand… what exactly is lucky about her situation???? Her trauma lasted YEARS. His responses disgusted me
You weren’t lucky, Madison. Nothing about this screams “lucky”. I’m actually shocked that Kyler said this multiple times. If something like this happened to your kids, would you tell them they are lucky?
@ I completely understand that, but he needs to be more cautious on how he expresses himself when it comes to things like this. He is gaslighting the situation which may make her feel like “it wasn’t that bad” which is NOT true. It was very bad what happened to Madison! We don’t need victims and survivors feeling like they should feel lucky that nothing worse happened. That’s not the right message to send out especially to such a large audience.
i agree but it also seems like he’s moreso trying to make her feel better and see the bright side of it and how god saved her, but i for sure agree with you- it certainly wouldn’t make me feel any better
I don’t think lucky is the word but I think what he meant is that she got out of that safe. She got out of it ALIVE! That is the good out of a HORRIBLE SICKENING trauma
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I’m so sorry this happened to you Madison. Thank you for sharing your story. I’m glad Kyler is supportive but I also don’t like that he kept saying you were “lucky.” Nothing is “lucky” about being SA’d or groomed. I’m sure he didn’t mean it that way, but don’t feel like you have to diminish what happened to you, even if it “could’ve been worse.” I hope you’ve had years of therapy to help you cope with the burden of such sick memories 💔
I think what Kyler means is that Madison is lucky it wasn’t worse! Or she wasn’t raped. It could’ve been worse is what he means and I agree with him.
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@@SavedBySweetGrace sure, and I know he didn’t mean it any bad way. That’s just not something you should say to someone who is opening up about something so traumatic.
@she’s my wife so I probably have been opened up to several times in the past 13 years so I know her story? Maybe?
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@@Fishfam of course, and I understand that we were just given a tiny glimpse into the whole situation. I’m sure you were just trying to comfort her and try to take away some of the pain- just as an outsider, that wording put me off slightly. It sounds like others felt the same. But I didn’t mean it offensively, and if Madison also considers herself lucky then no harm, no foul. All love ❤️
Therapist here…Madison what you went through is absolutely horrific and traumatizing. I’m so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for your bravery in sharing such a personal story with the world. I’m glad you feel comfortable enough to open up about this and help others. I know that Kyler probably did not mean it the way he said it, but there is nothing “lucky” about your situation. Could things always be worse? Of course. But let’s not invalidate such a traumatizing experience that went on for way longer than it should have. The adults in your life failed you. Of course not intentionally and I can imagine the pain your parents felt when they found out what was happening. But you were a child. There is absolutely no responsibility on you to understand at that age to magnitude of what was happening. And the “freeze” you were experiencing is a very common trauma response. Did you receive therapy after this situation when younger? I hope you did, but if not i think psychoeducation on trauma can help you understand your response to what happened to you. Sending healing vibes to you!
It was beyond grooming. She said he did vile things and took all her innocence. I'm sorry that happened to you Madison. I'm praying for you & you are a brave woman to share this very intimate detail of you life. God Bless You
I am not a subscriber and I have never seen you guys before, but just from watching this one video and hearing about your horrible experiences, seeing how your husband is responding to your story is horrific. So unsupportive, so emotionless as if he doesn’t care. That man owes you the biggest and sincerest apology. In what world does a woman want to sit down and pour her heart out and bring up heartbreaking experiences, to have her HUSBAND tell her she’s lucky. To belittle her. His entire demeanour from what he’s saying and his body language, how he’s got his hat and sunglasses on with his laptop open, he’s literally just chilling.. biggest red flag and I’m so sorry for you. Thank you for sharing your story ❤
As a victim myself..this set up is a no! I’m proud of Maddie speaking up and out about the evil out there BUT!!!!!!!! As a husband and supporter why…would he sit there with glasses on and saying crap like “you got lucky”. This is not a light topic. Empathy, support and comfort are found in the eyes, the fact that he covered them is wild! Not my husband. Also men or non victims of SA should learn what not to say to a person who has gone through this. Stuff like “you were lucky it didn’t get worse” is beyond insensitive and belittles her feelings and experience. Some men are clueless!!!!!!!!
I can’t believe Kyler said you were “lucky” multiple times for it “just being the grooming phase” and “it could’ve been much worse”. I’m sure he didn’t mean it in that way but it can for sure sound very invalidating. No matter to what extent things happened, it shouldn’t have happened in the first place. I’m so sorry this happened to you. Thanks for sharing your story with us, hopefully it will help more victims speak up about their trauma.
Definitely don’t agree with Kyler telling her multiple times she was “one of the lucky ones”. Robert was insanely obsessed with her and had other plans. Thank god for Madison’s mom coming in when she did. Madison you are so strong and so brave for forgiving him. Not many people would. ❤️🩹 Kyler I hope you see these comments and change the way you respond to topics like this! All the love! Xoxoo
You can’t state that she was blessed by God and therefore nothing worse happened to her. What about all other millions of young children for instance that are and has been severely abused?! So God favours some people more than others and ‘protects’ and ‘blesses’ some but not others ?!? 🤨
I'm 8 minutes in and just want to say how incredibly well spoken Madison is and how brave you are for speaking out on this not only for your own healing journey but to educate youngsters and parents too who watch your channel.
“you were lucky” made me wanna scream, im sure kyler didnt mean it to sound insensitive or anything but oh my god, im so so sorry this happened to you madison, “just in the grooming phase” also made me mad though, like she told this whole story about how he made her feel and the things he did and kyler told her she was “lucky”. im so proud of you for sharing this story, youre so strong hon 🫶
You weren't lucky Madison. You were unlucky to lose your innocence and have that much emotional stress for years at such a young age. The fear and confusion and worry eats away at you. For an 11 year old it is such a burden to carry.
If my husband kept saying “you were lucky”, I would feel like punching him in the face, like wtf, that just gives incredibly bad vibes. I’m so sorry you went through this Madison, there are so many more paedophiles out there than people know, it’s horrific. You weren’t lucky, you were deeply hurt and I wish you all the healing you need
When she said “a normal kid would just go home and tell their parents”, kyler says “ya”. No a normal kid wouldn’t. We don’t tell because it’s the shame, guilt, embarrassment. It was not your fault Madison. He was the pervert. You are not alone! ME TOO🤍
Yes 100% in wanted to punch him for her she was sexually assaulted, any form of that is horrible and just because it wasn’t worse, that doesn’t mean she’s lucky… seriously
Kyler your whole response and attitude to the situation is def not what I would expect from a loving husband!!WOW DUDE you are out touch sincerely the only lucky one here is you still having Mads as a wife I hope you know that
Nothing was wrong with you, Madison❤ You were a child and your nervous system stepped in to protect you by putting you into Freeze. It was a brilliant way to keep you alive. If you're interested, research about the Autonomic Nervous System and the different self protective states that come to our aid during traumatic times. It might help you make sense of why you couldn't do anything or couldn't speak up. Sending lots of love and thank you for sharing your story to help raise awareness.
Thankyou Maddison for Sharing your story. I was SA’d from aged 3 to aged 8 by my Biologicical Father. I’m 52 years old and only the past 3 years have I sought help for trauma and reported it. ( although my mother knew at the time). I’m commenting only to reassure anyone out there that was abused in this way, that it never too late to speak up and get help. Wether it happened once or a hundred times, your trauma is still trauma. It’s wonderful to see you have such a supporting, loving husband Maddison. Thankyou Kyle for letting her tell her story, her way, yet still being her side. Stay safe xox 🙏🏼🙏🏼🥰
It seems a little impersonal that Kyler wore sunglasses through this interview. This was clearly a hard interview for her and him being able to make eye contact with her to show support and interest I think would have been more appropriate.
@@Yakoshi283yeah this entire interview his demeanor made me uncomfortable as well as what he was saying. Associating lucky with sexual abuse is gross to me. No matter how it’s meant to be
It will effect her for the rest of her life. To say she got lucky is totally the WRONG WORDING. I had a guy from high trying to rape me in my freshman year of high school days. I fought him off luckily and never said a word to anyone back than. I Moved out at 15 and wasn’t close to my parents or siblings. I started dating my bf and he ended up beating his ass our senior year. I married that bf and we been together 36 years … but I NEVER forgotten about that day. I don’t call myself lucky, I say I was blessed. No one should ever have to experience this terrible fear and trauma!
Thank you Madison for talking so candidly about this awful period in your life, so very brave of you. I hope that this podcast is shown to the children by parents all over the world and that it gives those child victims the courage to speak out about any abuse they may be experiencing at the time it is happening, rather than going through their adolescence and suffering years of torment and self loathing as is often the case.♥️ These sick and twisted individuals need to be removed from society at the earliest opportunity!
Madison you are incredible ❤️ it's NEVER a child's fault and you don't have to worry about making anyone feel bad. That's so scary that you had to deal with him that time alone in your house. You did an amazing job. You are a super survivor. I'm so so sorry that you ever had to deal with any of this. And for the record, sometimes the grooming phase is the most traumatic because as you described, there's so many threats and confusion but nothing to actively report yet. The mental anguish that causes can be very traumatic. Please know however you feel is valid. You did everything you needed to do that no child should have ever had to go through. Thank you for your bravery and speaking out.
I just want to sincerely validate. I’m sure that still haunts you and I’m so sorry. Bothers me to my core that people do such vile things to children. You are so strong. Thank you for sharing your story 🫶🏼
Thank you for sharing Madison. This just shows you never know what someone is going through or went through. All we see is your family channel and how good life looks, never expected this from you. You’ve got a huge heart to be able to forgive and stay positive after the situation
Thank you for speaking about this! I was also sexually abused when I was 4 and 5 by my biological father every night! I told my mom just to tell her (at the time I did not know that was wrong) and she was horrified and of course he went to jail and everything. I am now 14 and I can remember every bit of it and am so happy that I had a family that trusted me and got me the help I needed. I love y'all! ❤
Oh Madison… thank you so much for sharing your story. You using your platform to spread awareness on such an atrocious and frequent issue is commendable. You’re so incredibly strong and your traumatic experience truly breaks me. All the best. ❤❤❤
Madison, thank you so much for opening up about this. It took me YEARS before I finally told my mom about my SA experience and I couldn’t even tell her in person, I told her over the phone. I was shaking the whole phone call but it felt so freeing getting it out. It still scars me to this day and has resulted in a lot of anger issues unfortunately, but I have improved little by little. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for sharing your story. It definitely helps me feel less alone 💔
Madison, I'm so sorry this happened to you. So sorry. Kyler buddy, you have to realize how you come across to everyone watching. The sunglasses. The arrogance. The "lucky" comments. Gosh Madison. So many people have failed you. I'm so sorry. I'm so glad that you know the Lord and know that HE will never fail you. Thank you for sharing your story. I know it's not easy.
Thank you so much for sharing your story! ❤. I’ve been reading some of the comment’s including your responses Madison and just wanted to add a new perspective to it. I understand that the lights were bright in front of you and that when Kyler said “your were lucky” and “only in the grooming phase” that he didn’t mean it maliciously at all. I can see how it would be triggering or hard for some viewers to hear that. As someone who is adopted and has a tough story with hard truths and some redemptive parts so called “happy endings” it doesn’t take away from the pain or legitimacy of the situations. I always struggled with a trigger when people would tell me that I was lucky that I was “rescued/adopted” when I was. Or they would say things like “you should be greatful “. They didn’t mean it in a bad way, but it doesn’t mean that it didn’t hurt to hear them say that. I love following your journey and Kyler’s as you raise your amazing family and he continues with his music career and I wish you all the best. Will continue to be praying for you, and hope that you continue to find peace and healing in God. Thank you again for your bravery and honesty in sharing ❤.
Thank you for sharing this incredibly difficult story. I’m a mom of two girls and hearing this helps me guide myself and my children to prevent this. What you went through was unthinkable, just because it wasn’t worse, doesn’t take away from the pain it caused. That’s toxic positivity, and there’s no reason for what happened.
this makes me so happy that you’re not conscious about this. pay attention to people that are overly nice to your kids (not to be sexist but focus this on men especially)!
Madison, thank you for sharing so bravely. This is so important for parents and for all the kids who have felt creeped out but lied to themselves. Trust your gut. I’m glad you have an eternal perspective and praise God you are alive to share.
Thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing this story. It is so important that people know that this happens. I am appreciative of your vulnerability and strength to put this out there. Thank you.
Mads, you are so incredibly strong! Thank you for being brave and sharing your story to bring awareness to girl all over the world. This helps me to know I will be so so cautious whenever I have kids and some red flags to look for. God uses all the ugly things for good❤️
It’s so hard to respond in these situations, so I definitely can’t be mad for Kyler saying what he said. He’s trying to make light. But Madison, you went through CRAP. You weren’t “lucky”. & “just” being in the grooming stage, is TOO much in itself. I hope these comments validate you. I know they validated me when I had the same thoughts, when I went to start this comment, I saw a few more saying the same thing. Again, not mad at Kyler, just wanted to validate your experience. Bc NONE of this is ok. Thank you for speaking about your story. When you said you felt scared, & that he was going to find you, I still live in that fear every day from my abusers & I want to shake it so bad but it’s SO terrifying.
Lucky? Kyler... Madison was not lucky. Your girls are lucky they have a mom like Madison. Don't call Madison lucky. You wouldn't say your kids were lucky if they were "only groomed"
Pretty sure that’s not what he meant. I think he meant she was lucky to have had someone interfere and stop it from happening. Not that she was “only” groomed.
@@TheMADLife1 hes your husband of course he didnt mean it that way people always get offended so easily instead of trying to be more compassionate and understanding of the intentions of others
I commend you Madison for sharing this so publicly even though I'm sure it wasn't easy. Helping people understand the signs can help prevent abuse for many others. It can also help others who have gone through similar experiences to not feel so alone and maybe open up to loved ones if they haven't done so already. So glad that you have God in your life to help you heal
first of all, madison, i want to say i'm so sorry you had to go through this, it's so terrible. and secondly, you made amazing points about forgiveness, and also how your family rule is no sleepovers. so smart loved those points
oh bby, please don’t ever worry again if that man’s spirit is coming to haunt you. that man is far deep in hell. thank you for sharing your story from one SA victim i’m glad you shared your story it even made me more self aware and i pray nothing but self love, and peace for you🤍
Im so so sorry Madison your innocence was taken, there is so many people who sadly have experienced this. To everyone .... I wouldnt blame Kyler at all as know one has the right words to say in these situations. Its just one of them things. Speaking from experience. Its hard enough getting the words out let alone having someone from the outside trying to be their to support you. Sending love to you all ❤
I’m so sorry this happened to you Madison. Thank you for sharing your story. That’s so scary. Thank god Madison’s mom coming in when she did. Madison is so strong and brave for forgiving him. Also Kyler wearing sunglasses in this and not giving Madison eye contact. I hope Kyler changes his way he responds to topics like this and that he sees these comments
Madison, I'm so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for speaking up. Some men are just psychotic. We need to create more awareness to young girls so that they can differentiate sexual harassment acts or not. Take care, Madison. Sending lots of love 💟. God bless you and family
i am so so sorry!!! gosh thank you for being willing to share, its such a good reminder that we really need to be on top of communicating well with our kids and being there. heart breaking. so so sorry!
I hope you see this! Please know that there is nothing wrong with you- what your neighbor did was not only sexual abuse but psychological abuse. You did what you had to to survive. Ive been in that place too so I know how terrible it is. Thank you for your vulnerability in sharing your story 🙏🏻😭 I hope you know how brave and strong you are. Im so sorry this happened to you. Hearing your story gives me hope for my future. I also was abused. Thank you madison!
My mom was a victim of SA around that same age by her uncle. When she finally found the courage to speak up, she wasn’t believed. I have seen firsthand the havoc that that season of her life has carried throughout her life. She has always been fiercely protective of us kids, to a fault most times. I can see that Madison has truly forgiven that man, and obviously still shaken by that whole experience, but not letting it make her bitter and resentful. It’s very brave, very inspiring. No one would blame you for being guarded and bitter towards people after such horrific abuse, but I admire Madison’s courage to overcome, despite the pain of it.
Kyler’s response to your story baffles me ngl. I was molested by multiple people including a kid that was a neighbor that lived next door to the daycare that I was at. He would come over and molest me daily. I didn’t tell anyone about what happened to me until I was in my 20s so I’m so proud of you, Madison for being so brave and speaking up so young!
Mine lasted six years. It was my grandfather who actually threatened me that he would tell my parents I cussed if I told. From the age of 6 to 12 we rode the bus to him every day after school. Not only did it happened to me it happened to two of my cousins and three of our family friends. But I do have learned that I had to forgive him.. he’s still in prison, therapy didn’t help me as a child but I’ve also never talked about what happened.. thank you so much for sharing your story. I would love to talk to you and actually talk to someone who has been through it and is not completely destroyed.
Omg Madison I’m so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for sharing your story and for being so vulnerable. It’s a very sick and sad world we live in today. May GOD continue to bless you and your beautiful family 🙏🏼
Hearing your story HELPS me. I was SA by a relative when I was 4-6 and I held it in for 20 years. Every day I’m angry with myself that my brain couldn’t process what was going on and why I didn’t speak up to get him in Jail. Proud of you for sharing and you are so strong. I want to start a foundation for victims as well♥️
Please don’t listen to these people. I’m sorry you’re still living with this. It’s not your fault!!!! I’ve also been through SA.. please don’t blame yourself. I would not trust Fishfam..it’s content for them
Thank you for sharing your story Madison, so sorry you had to go through that! Sorry to say but the way Kyler responded to her and was acting in the video gives me the biggest red flags as he clearly doesn’t understand her feelings and perspective ..I hope she receives the support she deserves❤
This hurt my heart to hear your story. I’m so sorry that it happened to you. You’re amazing and so precious, thank you for being so vulnerable with sharing, so that you may help someone else. Bless you Madison.❤
Question: What policies and practices do you have in place to protect your own three girls/all of your children? They are around a lot of people when modeling/acting etc.
Madison I am so sorry this happened to you. What an awful horrible thing you had to go through. I’m sure it was so painful to share all of this with everyone. 😢 Thank you for being such an uplifting and encouraging spirit.
Me too. It was as neighborhood kids that did it to me. I didn’t understand what was happening, but knew it was wrong. I eventually told my parents too & they were so devastated that they didn’t know about it. They blamed themselves too. I was similar that I was embarrassed to say anything about it. Ugh I felt your pain so deeply when you were talking. Thanks for sharing your story. A few other thoughts about this epidemic…She skipped over the worst details. It wasn’t just a grooming phase & I’m sad Kyler kept saying that. It’s ok to forgive him if you want, but please don’t diminish the severity of it all. It was all bad & obviously very graphic things happened that she didn’t want to say out loud due to how bad they were so IT WAS NOT JUST GROOMING PHASE! Plus, I agree the sunglasses were a very odd & rude way to go for such a serious topic.
I really appreciate Madison for sharing her story to help others. What really frustrated me was when he said he “highly doubts that the wife knew”. Of course she knew he had multiple cases against him. Unless she had just got married to that man she knew. She wanted to think that if she just went outside to swing she had no part of what was happening.
You are very brave for sharing your story, Madison ♡ Thank you. I want you to know that there is/was absolutely nothing wrong with you. I understand the blaming yourself of, “Why didn’t I say something/do something/stop it?” That guilt and embarrassment can be a heavy burden to carry around. Learning more about trauma, the body can respond through fight, flight, OR FREEZE. Your actions (or lack of action) are irrelevant in this situation. The guilt and blame lies solely on the perpetrator. None of it was your fault ♡
I'm so sorry that this happened to you Madison. I had a similar experience as a kid. Parents, please protect your babies! Just because someone is family don't make them safe. I was messed with by my mom's cousin that had 2 kids my age and a great uncle that we were very close to. I forgave them long ago but It leaves scars
i’m so sorry this happened. i’ve been through something similar. i pray that you find peace with it and im so thankful for you sharing your experience.
Madison, Thank you so much for sharing. I was in a similar experience and I so relate to the frozen feeling where you body refuses to move while it is happening. It is easy to blame yourself when it feels like you could have done something to stop it from continuing. It is so encouraging to know I am not the only one that felt that way!
Madison, you were NOT lucky. I want you to know that none of this was your fault, you were doing what a pre-teen knew how, to protect yourself further from the trauma. I can understand that Kyler was uncomfortable during this conversation, rightfully so as he is your husband and I understand the feelings he had… wanting to break your abusers legs off. However, I do think that when he said you were lucky, he meant to say that he is grateful and PROUD of you for you being BRAVE enough to tell your mom when you did. It wasn’t luck that ended it, YOU DID! ❤ I’m so proud of you for sharing I’m so proud of you for defeating your abuser. I tried to use my words carefully, if I say anything you don’t agree with please feel free to share. We are all learning and growing to be the best versions of ourselves.
everyone stop trashing kyler! that is her husband and he didn’t mean it in that way! he is saying she is lucky that her mom came in at that point! madison and kyler i love how good of parents you are. my mom has six kids including me and im just a young teenager. i beg for sleepovers all the time and my mom gives me that exact talk that you guys said at the end about it. that made me feel so good. love you both
I love listening in every week! Hoping ya'll keep going. I love hearing your positive perspective in life. I appreciate you for opening up Madison, hearing your story will help others heal and speak up. It is nothing to be ashamed of, it is in no way their fault
Whew…yall are really coming for Kyler😬 Sometimes you don’t know what to say to someone when they share something so traumatic that you can’t relate to, but I’m SURE he has learned!🙃 He’s human, he’s not the abuser and you can tell he’s supportive and wants to break the legs of her abuser. So tragic..I’m so sorry you had to go through that, Madison!! But as a parent-thank you for sharing so I know to never trust anyone with my children.❤
29:06 in regards to freezing, it’s actually a thing. Fight, flight, or freeze. It’s a body’s responds to trauma, kind of like going into shock. In regards to not telling your parents, i was in the same boat and it was because as a kid we don’t want to break their hearts because we know it will and they might blame themselves; at least that was the case for me. But it’s not your fault. I’m so sorry it happened to you. You are helping so many people.
Other than the “ you’re lucky” … why would he ask her , “why would you still go over there IF you where scared ?” . He does not understand manipulation, He does not understand the fear … !
I know several people have mentioned it but you were not lucky. None of what you went through was lucky. Even if it didn’t get as far as it could’ve gone. I’m so sorry you went through this and it’s so sad how many people have similar stories. I applaud you for speaking up bc this is not something that’s easy to talk about. Loved the vid
Me too! I didn’t say anything until I was 19 and my mom still didn’t believe me so I never mentioned it again until my 30s when the person died. I was so relieved. My husband knew from the beginning and my only support. He’s the reason I was able to move past it o think. Thank you for being brave enough to share
Madison, I’m so sorry this happened to you! You were not lucky, and what happened to you was not your fault at all! This was not “just grooming”, you were sexually abused for years. I say this in the most sincere way, I really wish Kyler would educate himself and mature, because a lot of the stuff he said was ignorant and dismissive. You never fully get over an assault. SA lives with you forever, and the effect it has on your life is insane, and only someone whose been abused would understand. I was SA’d 2 times in my childhood, and it still haunts me now that I’m 20. Also freezing is a very common and natural response to an assault, it’s our bodies and brains way of going into defense mode, also there’s a point where things get so bad your body shuts down to protect yourself, hoping the threat goes away (survival instinct). Thank you for sharing your story, and remember how strong you are! 💗💓
first and foremost, i’m so sorry this happened to you Madison. my heart breaks for you and everyone who had to suffer through this as a child (or at any age). i think it’s powerful you shared this story. thank you for being vulnerable with us about something that had to have been so hard to talk about. shoutout to Kyler for being as supportive as possible through something like this. it has to be hard for him to hear coming from you, the love of his life. finally, thank you for the positivity you shared out of a dark time in your life. make a difference, and forgive. how powerful your message is. thank you for sharing such good things with us, out of such hard times. i look up to you for this!
you should discuss with your therapist, or even a psychiatrist if you're curious! The phenomena you're wondering about is a pretty normal fight or flight response. It's interesting, and a lot of people with PTSD and panic disorders suffer from similar situations. Prayers for healing
I am eternally grateful that a 26 yr old woman told her story and that I was able to have a front row seat and witness the strength that she had herself, to make me, an 18 yr old at the time, finally have the courage to speak up and tell my own! I think what you've done by telling your story is incredibly brave and I fully believe that you will be that one person that someone needed to hear and that will give them the strength to be able to tell there truth as well! I'm incredibly sorry for your innocence being taken away as well! It's something that we can never get back! So thank you so much for being brave and vulnerable and honest and using this platform that God has given you to truly make a difference! I admire you Madison, in so so many ways!! 🫶🏻❤
You have an amazing heart, Madison. Your outlook on the situation and ability to forgive him is incredible. You are so strong and did not deserve any of this. We love you so much.❤️ and are standing with you. Praying for healing from any resisting hurt from this situation
Thank you for sharing your story Maddison. I can see how hard kyler does struggle hearing your story. So when he said you were lucky i don’t believe he meant it the way people took it. The neighbour was a weak coward. Praying on kids but only after getting caught took his life. Im sorry he did this to you. It’s great to spread awareness on this topic and speak up ❤
Madison you are so strong for sharing your story. Thank you for being so bold and saving other innocent children and teens from this. I admire your boldness and courageousness. ❤
Thank you for sharing your story. I was sexually assaulted a few years ago when in college and felt many of the same feelings you described. I never pressed charges but looking back I wish I did. I had a similar experience forgiving my rapist. I remember vividly being in church and feeling like the pastor was directly saying to me "Some of you have been holding onto hurt and grudges that you need to release and forgive". In that moment I began crying and released my hate and anger to the Lord. There is so much power in forgiveness and knowing that God is the ultimate judge.
Man when kyler said “you were JUST in the grooming stage” I gasped. It doesn’t matter how far he went, that fact is he did some really inappropriate things to a young child, who clearly didn’t go into detail of some horrific experiences she had. Im so sorry Madison. Your pain is valid. So valid. You didn’t deserve what happened to you. You must of been so scared and confused. I hope Kyler apologizes for playing it off.
I agree, and calling her "lucky" and being surprised that she's still "bothered" by the story is WILD!
@@McAttinsYESS saying she’s “lucky” that she wasn’t raped???? That’s insane. Imagine your own husband saying that. There’s a way to word things and that was probably the WORST way to put it
Didn’t see it that way at all! Ya’ll don’t know her husband like she does…
It is true that the level of abuse could have been "worse" if you want to use that word, but the trauma is the same. It is dangerous to use that statement, if anybody who listened to this heard "just the grooming phase" can easily minimize what they have gone through or are going through and never get help. Please don't minimize any kind of abuse, it is so damaging
@@charlottefroese663 It doesn't feel the same though. Rape is about 1000 times worse, same with molestation. People are just very strong and are able to heal.
Kyler's response is appalling. He owes you the most sincere apology.
No he rlly doesn’t. He didn’t mean any harm. I would want to have a future husband like him.
Kyler’s response to Madison’s story infuriates me!! I’m a victim of SA and he is so clueless and ignorant regarding this topic and it’s so sad!! Madison you’re so strong!!! Thanks for sharing your story even though you were vulnerable, you’re not alone.
Kyler… man… Madison is so strong for continuing to talk about her story while her husband is invalidating her experiences. The sunglasses, getting up, laptop open, very disrespectful. “You were lucky”. I understand he was trying to be positive in the fact that it didn’t get as far as Robert had planned too. But she didn’t even explain every gruesome detail and I can tell that it traumatized her. I’m so sorry for what you went through. Kyler please educate yourself.
Were u not listening his laptop was open cuz they have the story on it incase she forgot anything he got up cuz someone Was at the door then one of the kids yelled so he got up for that to.
what timestamp did he say "you were lucky"
@@junedahl172718:53 repeated multiple times :/
@@katelynmarx9382 thankyou, wow this is truly sickening that she has to hear that from her own husband...
the sun glasses....@@Seena11
Wow...Kylers body language, and his comments saying she's lucky and "it was just the grooming phase" it was disgusting to hear. Yes I understand what he 'meant' but still. Don't ever tell a victim that. Show some compassion. Proud of you Madison for speaking out, it takes a lot of strength and courage❤️
Also I just hate that this is such a sensitive topic and he wears sunglasses. Irkkkss me
He’s an idiot
In this particular situation it could have been A MILLION times worse, so I think that’s what he means by lucky. Lucky it didn’t go there.
I understand exactly what you felt and feel now. May God always bless you! Stay strong and keep working through it. I'm proud of you for your bravery!
I’m sorry but “you were lucky” and “it was just the grooming phase” rubbed me the wrong way. I really hope your husband understands the pain this has caused you as a little girl. I can’t even fathom going through that. You’re so strong for forgiving this bastard because I don’t know if I could. God bless you.
In this particular situation it could have been A MILLION times worse, so I think that’s what he means by lucky. Lucky it didn’t go there.
Madison you were not lucky!! Kyler saying “Just the grooming stage” is so wrong, saying “JUST” downplays the whole situation so much. All my love to Madison, you are so incredibly strong! ❤❤❤
When did he say the grooming stage th8ng
In this particular situation it could have been A MILLION times worse, so I think that’s what he means by lucky. Lucky it didn’t go there.
This is the first time I’ve listened to her podcast and she seems like such a sweet, gentle soul. Him on the other hand… what exactly is lucky about her situation???? Her trauma lasted YEARS. His responses disgusted me
Yeah he definitely messed up by saying she was “lucky” super out to touch
You weren’t lucky, Madison. Nothing about this screams “lucky”. I’m actually shocked that Kyler said this multiple times. If something like this happened to your kids, would you tell them they are lucky?
He ofc didn’t mean it that way.
@ I completely understand that, but he needs to be more cautious on how he expresses himself when it comes to things like this. He is gaslighting the situation which may make her feel like “it wasn’t that bad” which is NOT true. It was very bad what happened to Madison! We don’t need victims and survivors feeling like they should feel lucky that nothing worse happened. That’s not the right message to send out especially to such a large audience.
@@KendraW052minimizing what happened to her doesn’t make it any better
i agree but it also seems like he’s moreso trying to make her feel better and see the bright side of it and how god saved her, but i for sure agree with you- it certainly wouldn’t make me feel any better
I don’t think lucky is the word but I think what he meant is that she got out of that safe. She got out of it ALIVE! That is the good out of a HORRIBLE SICKENING trauma
I’m so sorry this happened to you Madison. Thank you for sharing your story. I’m glad Kyler is supportive but I also don’t like that he kept saying you were “lucky.” Nothing is “lucky” about being SA’d or groomed. I’m sure he didn’t mean it that way, but don’t feel like you have to diminish what happened to you, even if it “could’ve been worse.” I hope you’ve had years of therapy to help you cope with the burden of such sick memories 💔
I think what Kyler means is that Madison is lucky it wasn’t worse! Or she wasn’t raped. It could’ve been worse is what he means and I agree with him.
@@SavedBySweetGrace sure, and I know he didn’t mean it any bad way. That’s just not something you should say to someone who is opening up about something so traumatic.
Absolutely agree!!
@she’s my wife so I probably have been opened up to several times in the past 13 years so I know her story? Maybe?
@@Fishfam of course, and I understand that we were just given a tiny glimpse into the whole situation. I’m sure you were just trying to comfort her and try to take away some of the pain- just as an outsider, that wording put me off slightly. It sounds like others felt the same. But I didn’t mean it offensively, and if Madison also considers herself lucky then no harm, no foul. All love ❤️
Therapist here…Madison what you went through is absolutely horrific and traumatizing. I’m so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for your bravery in sharing such a personal story with the world. I’m glad you feel comfortable enough to open up about this and help others. I know that Kyler probably did not mean it the way he said it, but there is nothing “lucky” about your situation. Could things always be worse? Of course. But let’s not invalidate such a traumatizing experience that went on for way longer than it should have. The adults in your life failed you. Of course not intentionally and I can imagine the pain your parents felt when they found out what was happening. But you were a child. There is absolutely no responsibility on you to understand at that age to magnitude of what was happening. And the “freeze” you were experiencing is a very common trauma response. Did you receive therapy after this situation when younger? I hope you did, but if not i think psychoeducation on trauma can help you understand your response to what happened to you. Sending healing vibes to you!
Kyler is the perfect example of how sometimes it’s best not to say anything and to just listen.
Thank you for sharing your story Madison
It was beyond grooming. She said he did vile things and took all her innocence. I'm sorry that happened to you Madison. I'm praying for you & you are a brave woman to share this very intimate detail of you life. God Bless You
I am not a subscriber and I have never seen you guys before, but just from watching this one video and hearing about your horrible experiences, seeing how your husband is responding to your story is horrific. So unsupportive, so emotionless as if he doesn’t care. That man owes you the biggest and sincerest apology. In what world does a woman want to sit down and pour her heart out and bring up heartbreaking experiences, to have her HUSBAND tell her she’s lucky. To belittle her. His entire demeanour from what he’s saying and his body language, how he’s got his hat and sunglasses on with his laptop open, he’s literally just chilling.. biggest red flag and I’m so sorry for you. Thank you for sharing your story ❤
As a victim myself..this set up is a no! I’m proud of Maddie speaking up and out about the evil out there BUT!!!!!!!! As a husband and supporter why…would he sit there with glasses on and saying crap like “you got lucky”. This is not a light topic. Empathy, support and comfort are found in the eyes, the fact that he covered them is wild! Not my husband. Also men or non victims of SA should learn what not to say to a person who has gone through this. Stuff like “you were lucky it didn’t get worse” is beyond insensitive and belittles her feelings and experience. Some men are clueless!!!!!!!!
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Him wearing his sunglasses makes it seem like what he cares most about is looking cool.
I can’t believe Kyler said you were “lucky” multiple times for it “just being the grooming phase” and “it could’ve been much worse”. I’m sure he didn’t mean it in that way but it can for sure sound very invalidating. No matter to what extent things happened, it shouldn’t have happened in the first place.
I’m so sorry this happened to you. Thanks for sharing your story with us, hopefully it will help more victims speak up about their trauma.
Hes saying she was lucky she didnt get raped
Not that shes lucky that it was only grooming
Being touched comes after the grooming. She was sexually assaulted, not just groomed.
YES MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!!! I came in comments to make similar comment!!
The sunglasses while his wife tells her story is also bizarre
She isn’t “lucky.” PERIOD.
Definitely don’t agree with Kyler telling her multiple times she was “one of the lucky ones”. Robert was insanely obsessed with her and had other plans. Thank god for Madison’s mom coming in when she did. Madison you are so strong and so brave for forgiving him. Not many people would. ❤️🩹 Kyler I hope you see these comments and change the way you respond to topics like this! All the love! Xoxoo
Like it or not she was lucky she wasn't killed or thrown into sex trafficking or something worse. So yes she was lucky
She wasn't lucky, she was BLESSED by God, our protector!
You can’t state that she was blessed by God and therefore nothing worse happened to her. What about all other millions of young children for instance that are and has been severely abused?! So God favours some people more than others and ‘protects’ and ‘blesses’ some but not others ?!? 🤨
She was lucky tho. Smth could’ve been worse. And he was looking in the bright side.
I'm 8 minutes in and just want to say how incredibly well spoken Madison is and how brave you are for speaking out on this not only for your own healing journey but to educate youngsters and parents too who watch your channel.
“you were lucky” made me wanna scream, im sure kyler didnt mean it to sound insensitive or anything but oh my god, im so so sorry this happened to you madison, “just in the grooming phase” also made me mad though, like she told this whole story about how he made her feel and the things he did and kyler told her she was “lucky”. im so proud of you for sharing this story, youre so strong hon 🫶
He said that bc. He’s looking in the bright side abt it. It could’ve been worse. I understand this completely bc of my past.
You weren't lucky Madison. You were unlucky to lose your innocence and have that much emotional stress for years at such a young age. The fear and confusion and worry eats away at you. For an 11 year old it is such a burden to carry.
beyond a burden. so sick. i agree
Love that you have a "no-sleepovers" rule for your kids
Maybe she should stop exposing her kids so much, all for money!
@@suekrattiger9323literally, she sounds like a hypocrite
this prob not the video to hate on her tbh@@Elizabeth-oy4kd
If my husband kept saying “you were lucky”, I would feel like punching him in the face, like wtf, that just gives incredibly bad vibes.
I’m so sorry you went through this Madison, there are so many more paedophiles out there than people know, it’s horrific.
You weren’t lucky, you were deeply hurt and I wish you all the healing you need
She was lucky it wasn't worse is what he meant
no shit @@samg873
When she said “a normal kid would just go home and tell their parents”, kyler says “ya”.
No a normal kid wouldn’t. We don’t tell because it’s the shame, guilt, embarrassment. It was not your fault Madison. He was the pervert. You are not alone! ME TOO🤍
@@kimberlyfasulo Exactly
Yes 100% in wanted to punch him for her she was sexually assaulted, any form of that is horrible and just because it wasn’t worse, that doesn’t mean she’s lucky… seriously
Kyler your whole response and attitude to the situation is def not what I would expect from a loving husband!!WOW DUDE you are out touch sincerely the only lucky one here is you still having Mads as a wife I hope you know that
Nothing was wrong with you, Madison❤ You were a child and your nervous system stepped in to protect you by putting you into Freeze. It was a brilliant way to keep you alive. If you're interested, research about the Autonomic Nervous System and the different self protective states that come to our aid during traumatic times. It might help you make sense of why you couldn't do anything or couldn't speak up. Sending lots of love and thank you for sharing your story to help raise awareness.
Thankyou Maddison for Sharing your story. I was SA’d from aged 3 to aged 8 by my Biologicical Father. I’m 52 years old and only the past 3 years have I sought help for trauma and reported it. ( although my mother knew at the time). I’m commenting only to reassure anyone out there that was abused in this way, that it never too late to speak up and get help. Wether it happened once or a hundred times, your trauma is still trauma.
It’s wonderful to see you have such a supporting, loving husband Maddison. Thankyou Kyle for letting her tell her story, her way, yet still being her side. Stay safe xox 🙏🏼🙏🏼🥰
It seems a little impersonal that Kyler wore sunglasses through this interview. This was clearly a hard interview for her and him being able to make eye contact with her to show support and interest I think would have been more appropriate.
That’s exactly what I thought. Iv always found him immature and “too laidback”.
@@Yakoshi283yeah this entire interview his demeanor made me uncomfortable as well as what he was saying. Associating lucky with sexual abuse is gross to me. No matter how it’s meant to be
I agree
It will effect her for the rest of her life. To say she got lucky is totally the WRONG WORDING. I had a guy from high trying to rape me in my freshman year of high school days. I fought him off luckily and never said a word to anyone back than. I Moved out at 15 and wasn’t close to my parents or siblings. I started dating my bf and he ended up beating his ass our senior year. I married that bf and we been together 36 years … but I NEVER forgotten about that day. I don’t call myself lucky, I say I was blessed. No one should ever have to experience this terrible fear and trauma!
It’s bizarre
Even after experiencing true evil you still embody forgiveness, love, and light.
You have the soul of a graceful warrior Madison. Keep shining.
Thank you Madison for talking so candidly about this awful period in your life, so very brave of you. I hope that this podcast is shown to the children by parents all over the world and that it gives those child victims the courage to speak out about any abuse they may be experiencing at the time it is happening, rather than going through their adolescence and suffering years of torment and self loathing as is often the case.♥️ These sick and twisted individuals need to be removed from society at the earliest opportunity!
Madison you are incredible ❤️ it's NEVER a child's fault and you don't have to worry about making anyone feel bad. That's so scary that you had to deal with him that time alone in your house. You did an amazing job. You are a super survivor. I'm so so sorry that you ever had to deal with any of this. And for the record, sometimes the grooming phase is the most traumatic because as you described, there's so many threats and confusion but nothing to actively report yet. The mental anguish that causes can be very traumatic. Please know however you feel is valid. You did everything you needed to do that no child should have ever had to go through. Thank you for your bravery and speaking out.
Kyler man.... The body language, the responses eek madison deserves in apology, Madison Im super proud of u for opening up and sharing your story
I just want to sincerely validate. I’m sure that still haunts you and I’m so sorry. Bothers me to my core that people do such vile things to children. You are so strong. Thank you for sharing your story 🫶🏼
Thank you for sharing Madison. This just shows you never know what someone is going through or went through. All we see is your family channel and how good life looks, never expected this from you. You’ve got a huge heart to be able to forgive and stay positive after the situation
Im with you guys, no sleep overs, its not worth it on so many levels
Thank you for speaking about this! I was also sexually abused when I was 4 and 5 by my biological father every night! I told my mom just to tell her (at the time I did not know that was wrong) and she was horrified and of course he went to jail and everything. I am now 14 and I can remember every bit of it and am so happy that I had a family that trusted me and got me the help I needed. I love y'all! ❤
I am so sorry that happened to you but I’m glad you told your mom
Oh Madison… thank you so much for sharing your story. You using your platform to spread awareness on such an atrocious and frequent issue is commendable. You’re so incredibly strong and your traumatic experience truly breaks me. All the best. ❤❤❤
Madison, thank you so much for opening up about this. It took me YEARS before I finally told my mom about my SA experience and I couldn’t even tell her in person, I told her over the phone. I was shaking the whole phone call but it felt so freeing getting it out. It still scars me to this day and has resulted in a lot of anger issues unfortunately, but I have improved little by little. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for sharing your story. It definitely helps me feel less alone 💔
Im so sorry to hear how hard it was for you to speak up. I totally was the same way. That was so awkward and hard for me
Madison, I'm so sorry this happened to you. So sorry. Kyler buddy, you have to realize how you come across to everyone watching. The sunglasses. The arrogance. The "lucky" comments. Gosh Madison. So many people have failed you. I'm so sorry. I'm so glad that you know the Lord and know that HE will never fail you. Thank you for sharing your story. I know it's not easy.
Amen. The only One you can trust in this world is our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Thank you so much for sharing your story! ❤. I’ve been reading some of the comment’s including your responses Madison and just wanted to add a new perspective to it. I understand that the lights were bright in front of you and that when Kyler said “your were lucky” and “only in the grooming phase” that he didn’t mean it maliciously at all. I can see how it would be triggering or hard for some viewers to hear that. As someone who is adopted and has a tough story with hard truths and some redemptive parts so called “happy endings” it doesn’t take away from the pain or legitimacy of the situations. I always struggled with a trigger when people would tell me that I was lucky that I was “rescued/adopted” when I was. Or they would say things like “you should be greatful “. They didn’t mean it in a bad way, but it doesn’t mean that it didn’t hurt to hear them say that. I love following your journey and Kyler’s as you raise your amazing family and he continues with his music career and I wish you all the best. Will continue to be praying for you, and hope that you continue to find peace and healing in God. Thank you again for your bravery and honesty in sharing ❤.
Thank you for sharing this incredibly difficult story. I’m a mom of two girls and hearing this helps me guide myself and my children to prevent this.
What you went through was unthinkable, just because it wasn’t worse, doesn’t take away from the pain it caused. That’s toxic positivity, and there’s no reason for what happened.
this makes me so happy that you’re not conscious about this. pay attention to people that are overly nice to your kids (not to be sexist but focus this on men especially)!
Madison. Thank you for speaking out about this. The emotions I felt from this story is so raw and real. I too have been through something like this.
Madison, thank you for sharing so bravely. This is so important for parents and for all the kids who have felt creeped out but lied to themselves. Trust your gut. I’m glad you have an eternal perspective and praise God you are alive to share.
Thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing this story. It is so important that people know that this happens. I am appreciative of your vulnerability and strength to put this out there. Thank you.
I’m so sorry you went through this. You are so strong! Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing this.
Mads, you are so incredibly strong! Thank you for being brave and sharing your story to bring awareness to girl all over the world. This helps me to know I will be so so cautious whenever I have kids and some red flags to look for. God uses all the ugly things for good❤️
It’s so hard to respond in these situations, so I definitely can’t be mad for Kyler saying what he said. He’s trying to make light. But Madison, you went through CRAP. You weren’t “lucky”. & “just” being in the grooming stage, is TOO much in itself. I hope these comments validate you. I know they validated me when I had the same thoughts, when I went to start this comment, I saw a few more saying the same thing. Again, not mad at Kyler, just wanted to validate your experience. Bc NONE of this is ok. Thank you for speaking about your story. When you said you felt scared, & that he was going to find you, I still live in that fear every day from my abusers & I want to shake it so bad but it’s SO terrifying.
Lucky? Kyler... Madison was not lucky. Your girls are lucky they have a mom like Madison. Don't call Madison lucky. You wouldn't say your kids were lucky if they were "only groomed"
Hes saying lucky she wasnt raped cause the guy did rape other kids but madison got lucky that she didnt get raped.
Pretty sure that’s not what he meant. I think he meant she was lucky to have had someone interfere and stop it from happening. Not that she was “only” groomed.
What he means by "only groomed" is he is glad she wasn't raped.
He’s been a great support my whole life knowing him. He’s helped me through everything so trust me he didn’t mean it like that
@@TheMADLife1 hes your husband of course he didnt mean it that way people always get offended so easily instead of trying to be more compassionate and understanding of the intentions of others
I commend you Madison for sharing this so publicly even though I'm sure it wasn't easy. Helping people understand the signs can help prevent abuse for many others. It can also help others who have gone through similar experiences to not feel so alone and maybe open up to loved ones if they haven't done so already. So glad that you have God in your life to help you heal
first of all, madison, i want to say i'm so sorry you had to go through this, it's so terrible. and secondly, you made amazing points about forgiveness, and also how your family rule is no sleepovers. so smart loved those points
Thank you for sharing Madison and spreading Christ's love at the same time! God bless you!
oh bby, please don’t ever worry again if that man’s spirit is coming to haunt you. that man is far deep in hell. thank you for sharing your story from one SA victim i’m glad you shared your story it even made me more self aware and i pray nothing but self love, and peace for you🤍
Im so so sorry Madison your innocence was taken, there is so many people who sadly have experienced this. To everyone .... I wouldnt blame Kyler at all as know one has the right words to say in these situations. Its just one of them things. Speaking from experience. Its hard enough getting the words out let alone having someone from the outside trying to be their to support you. Sending love to you all ❤
I’m so sorry this happened to you Madison. Thank you for sharing your story. That’s so scary. Thank god Madison’s mom coming in when she did. Madison is so strong and brave for forgiving him. Also Kyler wearing sunglasses in this and not giving Madison eye contact. I hope Kyler changes his way he responds to topics like this and that he sees these comments
Madison, I'm so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for speaking up. Some men are just psychotic. We need to create more awareness to young girls so that they can differentiate sexual harassment acts or not. Take care, Madison. Sending lots of love 💟. God bless you and family
i am so so sorry!!! gosh thank you for being willing to share, its such a good reminder that we really need to be on top of communicating well with our kids and being there. heart breaking. so so sorry!
This breaks my heart. Madison, you are so strong. You do so much good and you’re such a great example. Stay strong.🤍
This is soo heartbreaking. I cannot believe how much trust your parents had in him. You were with him daily. That’s just mind boggling to me. 😭
I hope you see this! Please know that there is nothing wrong with you- what your neighbor did was not only sexual abuse but psychological abuse. You did what you had to to survive. Ive been in that place too so I know how terrible it is. Thank you for your vulnerability in sharing your story 🙏🏻😭 I hope you know how brave and strong you are. Im so sorry this happened to you. Hearing your story gives me hope for my future. I also was abused. Thank you madison!
My mom was a victim of SA around that same age by her uncle. When she finally found the courage to speak up, she wasn’t believed. I have seen firsthand the havoc that that season of her life has carried throughout her life. She has always been fiercely protective of us kids, to a fault most times. I can see that Madison has truly forgiven that man, and obviously still shaken by that whole experience, but not letting it make her bitter and resentful. It’s very brave, very inspiring. No one would blame you for being guarded and bitter towards people after such horrific abuse, but I admire Madison’s courage to overcome, despite the pain of it.
Wow was not expecting this😢 I can’t believe this happened to you. I’m so sorry. I’m glad you told your family thank goodness
Kyler’s response to your story baffles me ngl. I was molested by multiple people including a kid that was a neighbor that lived next door to the daycare that I was at. He would come over and molest me daily. I didn’t tell anyone about what happened to me until I was in my 20s so I’m so proud of you, Madison for being so brave and speaking up so young!
I’m so sorry this happened to you Madison! Thank you for being vulnerable enough to share your story, you’re braver than you know.❤
Mine lasted six years. It was my grandfather who actually threatened me that he would tell my parents I cussed if I told. From the age of 6 to 12 we rode the bus to him every day after school. Not only did it happened to me it happened to two of my cousins and three of our family friends. But I do have learned that I had to forgive him.. he’s still in prison, therapy didn’t help me as a child but I’ve also never talked about what happened.. thank you so much for sharing your story. I would love to talk to you and actually talk to someone who has been through it and is not completely destroyed.
Omg Madison I’m so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for sharing your story and for being so vulnerable. It’s a very sick and sad world we live in today. May GOD continue to bless you and your beautiful family 🙏🏼
You can see how him saying she was “lucky” made her uncomfortable. And dismissing everything she says. Omg!!
Every time you tell the experience, your body relives the trauma as if it is happening.
Hearing your story HELPS me. I was SA by a relative when I was 4-6 and I held it in for 20 years. Every day I’m angry with myself that my brain couldn’t process what was going on and why I didn’t speak up to get him in Jail. Proud of you for sharing and you are so strong. I want to start a foundation for victims as well♥️
Please don’t listen to these people. I’m sorry you’re still living with this. It’s not your fault!!!! I’ve also been through SA.. please don’t blame yourself. I would not trust Fishfam..it’s content for them
Thank you for sharing your story Madison, so sorry you had to go through that! Sorry to say but the way Kyler responded to her and was acting in the video gives me the biggest red flags as he clearly doesn’t understand her feelings and perspective ..I hope she receives the support she deserves❤
This hurt my heart to hear your story. I’m so sorry that it happened to you. You’re amazing and so precious, thank you for being so vulnerable with sharing, so that you may help someone else. Bless you Madison.❤
Question: What policies and practices do you have in place to protect your own three girls/all of your children? They are around a lot of people when modeling/acting etc.
Madison I am so sorry this happened to you. What an awful horrible thing you had to go through. I’m sure it was so painful to share all of this with everyone. 😢 Thank you for being such an uplifting and encouraging spirit.
yeah that it's sad stupid guy to that to my mom
Me too. It was as neighborhood kids that did it to me. I didn’t understand what was happening, but knew it was wrong. I eventually told my parents too & they were so devastated that they didn’t know about it. They blamed themselves too. I was similar that I was embarrassed to say anything about it. Ugh I felt your pain so deeply when you were talking. Thanks for sharing your story.
A few other thoughts about this epidemic…She skipped over the worst details. It wasn’t just a grooming phase & I’m sad Kyler kept saying that. It’s ok to forgive him if you want, but please don’t diminish the severity of it all. It was all bad & obviously very graphic things happened that she didn’t want to say out loud due to how bad they were so IT WAS NOT JUST GROOMING PHASE! Plus, I agree the sunglasses were a very odd & rude way to go for such a serious topic.
I really appreciate Madison for sharing her story to help others. What really frustrated me was when he said he “highly doubts that the wife knew”. Of course she knew he had multiple cases against him. Unless she had just got married to that man she knew. She wanted to think that if she just went outside to swing she had no part of what was happening.
i'm so sorry this happened to you madison you're incredibly strong and a beautiful person
I hope your parents pressed charges so that this creep did not do this to any other child!!
They were and he hung himself, did you watch the video?!?
You are very brave for sharing your story, Madison ♡ Thank you. I want you to know that there is/was absolutely nothing wrong with you. I understand the blaming yourself of, “Why didn’t I say something/do something/stop it?” That guilt and embarrassment can be a heavy burden to carry around. Learning more about trauma, the body can respond through fight, flight, OR FREEZE. Your actions (or lack of action) are irrelevant in this situation. The guilt and blame lies solely on the perpetrator. None of it was your fault ♡
I'm so sorry that this happened to you Madison. I had a similar experience as a kid.
Parents, please protect your babies! Just because someone is family don't make them safe. I was messed with by my mom's cousin that had 2 kids my age and a great uncle that we were very close to. I forgave them long ago but It leaves scars
i’m so sorry this happened. i’ve been through something similar. i pray that you find peace with it and im so thankful for you sharing your experience.
You are so strong to tell your side of the story and happy Kyler is there by your side ❤❤❤
Wow, thank you for sharing your story! You are not alone and you are so brave to help others (especially kids) to look out for signs of a predator!
Sending you a big virtual hug Madison 💜As a Mom of a 12 year old this hurt my heart. Thank you for speaking out and raising awareness.
Madison keeps saying she’s over this, but it’s very clear she isn’t. Glad to hear she’s been getting some therapy recently.
Madison,
Thank you so much for sharing. I was in a similar experience and I so relate to the frozen feeling where you body refuses to move while it is happening. It is easy to blame yourself when it feels like you could have done something to stop it from continuing. It is so encouraging to know I am not the only one that felt that way!
Madison, you were NOT lucky. I want you to know that none of this was your fault, you were doing what a pre-teen knew how, to protect yourself further from the trauma.
I can understand that Kyler was uncomfortable during this conversation, rightfully so as he is your husband and I understand the feelings he had… wanting to break your abusers legs off.
However, I do think that when he said you were lucky, he meant to say that he is grateful and PROUD of you for you being BRAVE enough to tell your mom when you did.
It wasn’t luck that ended it, YOU DID! ❤
I’m so proud of you for sharing
I’m so proud of you for defeating your abuser.
I tried to use my words carefully, if I say anything you don’t agree with please feel free to share. We are all learning and growing to be the best versions of ourselves.
everyone stop trashing kyler! that is her husband and he didn’t mean it in that way! he is saying she is lucky that her mom came in at that point! madison and kyler i love how good of parents you are. my mom has six kids including me and im just a young teenager. i beg for sleepovers all the time and my mom gives me that exact talk that you guys said at the end about it. that made me feel so good. love you both
I love listening in every week! Hoping ya'll keep going. I love hearing your positive perspective in life. I appreciate you for opening up Madison, hearing your story will help others heal and speak up. It is nothing to be ashamed of, it is in no way their fault
Thanks for tuning in ❤ you’re amazing
Whew…yall are really coming for Kyler😬 Sometimes you don’t know what to say to someone when they share something so traumatic that you can’t relate to, but I’m SURE he has learned!🙃 He’s human, he’s not the abuser and you can tell he’s supportive and wants to break the legs of her abuser. So tragic..I’m so sorry you had to go through that, Madison!! But as a parent-thank you for sharing so I know to never trust anyone with my children.❤
29:06 in regards to freezing, it’s actually a thing. Fight, flight, or freeze. It’s a body’s responds to trauma, kind of like going into shock. In regards to not telling your parents, i was in the same boat and it was because as a kid we don’t want to break their hearts because we know it will and they might blame themselves; at least that was the case for me. But it’s not your fault. I’m so sorry it happened to you. You are helping so many people.
Other than the “ you’re lucky” … why would he ask her , “why would you still go over there IF you where scared ?” . He does not understand manipulation, He does not understand the fear … !
Thank you so much for sharing your story. It had to have been so hard to go through that. Sending hugs. I'm sure it will help others!
I know several people have mentioned it but you were not lucky. None of what you went through was lucky. Even if it didn’t get as far as it could’ve gone. I’m so sorry you went through this and it’s so sad how many people have similar stories. I applaud you for speaking up bc this is not something that’s easy to talk about. Loved the vid
Me too! I didn’t say anything until I was 19 and my mom still didn’t believe me so I never mentioned it again until my 30s when the person died. I was so relieved. My husband knew from the beginning and my only support. He’s the reason I was able to move past it o think. Thank you for being brave enough to share
Madison, I’m so sorry this happened to you! You were not lucky, and what happened to you was not your fault at all! This was not “just grooming”, you were sexually abused for years. I say this in the most sincere way, I really wish Kyler would educate himself and mature, because a lot of the stuff he said was ignorant and dismissive. You never fully get over an assault. SA lives with you forever, and the effect it has on your life is insane, and only someone whose been abused would understand. I was SA’d 2 times in my childhood, and it still haunts me now that I’m 20. Also freezing is a very common and natural response to an assault, it’s our bodies and brains way of going into defense mode, also there’s a point where things get so bad your body shuts down to protect yourself, hoping the threat goes away (survival instinct). Thank you for sharing your story, and remember how strong you are! 💗💓
I’m heartbroken to hear this. Madison you are so incredibly strong.
first and foremost, i’m so sorry this happened to you Madison. my heart breaks for you and everyone who had to suffer through this as a child (or at any age).
i think it’s powerful you shared this story. thank you for being vulnerable with us about something that had to have been so hard to talk about.
shoutout to Kyler for being as supportive as possible through something like this. it has to be hard for him to hear coming from you, the love of his life.
finally, thank you for the positivity you shared out of a dark time in your life. make a difference, and forgive. how powerful your message is. thank you for sharing such good things with us, out of such hard times. i look up to you for this!
you should discuss with your therapist, or even a psychiatrist if you're curious! The phenomena you're wondering about is a pretty normal fight or flight response. It's interesting, and a lot of people with PTSD and panic disorders suffer from similar situations. Prayers for healing
I am eternally grateful that a 26 yr old woman told her story and that I was able to have a front row seat and witness the strength that she had herself, to make me, an 18 yr old at the time, finally have the courage to speak up and tell my own! I think what you've done by telling your story is incredibly brave and I fully believe that you will be that one person that someone needed to hear and that will give them the strength to be able to tell there truth as well! I'm incredibly sorry for your innocence being taken away as well! It's something that we can never get back! So thank you so much for being brave and vulnerable and honest and using this platform that God has given you to truly make a difference! I admire you Madison, in so so many ways!! 🫶🏻❤
You have an amazing heart, Madison. Your outlook on the situation and ability to forgive him is incredible. You are so strong and did not deserve any of this. We love you so much.❤️ and are standing with you. Praying for healing from any resisting hurt from this situation
Seriously. She has a heart of steel. ❤
Thank you for sharing your story Maddison.
I can see how hard kyler does struggle hearing your story. So when he said you were lucky i don’t believe he meant it the way people took it.
The neighbour was a weak coward. Praying on kids but only after getting caught took his life. Im sorry he did this to you.
It’s great to spread awareness on this topic and speak up ❤
Madison you are so strong for sharing your story. Thank you for being so bold and saving other innocent children and teens from this. I admire your boldness and courageousness. ❤
Thank you for sharing your story. I was sexually assaulted a few years ago when in college and felt many of the same feelings you described. I never pressed charges but looking back I wish I did. I had a similar experience forgiving my rapist. I remember vividly being in church and feeling like the pastor was directly saying to me "Some of you have been holding onto hurt and grudges that you need to release and forgive". In that moment I began crying and released my hate and anger to the Lord. There is so much power in forgiveness and knowing that God is the ultimate judge.