SOLDANO SLO 100 - Does It Live Up To The Hype?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @jimmccall8030
    @jimmccall8030 5 месяцев назад +15

    I finally bought one a year ago and it’s my favorite amp overall - best lead tones I’ve ever gotten

  • @majorpentatonic2310
    @majorpentatonic2310 17 дней назад

    The captures are awesome. They were the 1st ones I tried out today after downloading the Black Friday bundle, and they are fanstasic, 👍😊
    Thanks Paul.

  • @mendelrocks
    @mendelrocks 5 месяцев назад +6

    Clean tones not expected when clicking on this video, but then again, you are Paul and found us some sparkle before the wicked!

    • @anmolatwal
      @anmolatwal 5 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly, all other videos have been so focused on the gain channel, rightfully so, that they ignored the clean channel, and made it sound plinky and generic... This sounds brilliant!!

  • @irishplucker
    @irishplucker 5 месяцев назад +3

    Sounds great...i am running my 2001 SLO through 2 Marshall 4x12 Cabs...its a sobering experience...the harmonic richness of the gain really flatters your playing and pushes you to play better....iconic amp.

  • @cyanidejunkie
    @cyanidejunkie 5 месяцев назад +12

    1:30 hilarious.
    You Sir, have a fantastic sense of humor. Had to comment before I even finished watching. Lol.

  • @LucasMastropasqua
    @LucasMastropasqua 5 месяцев назад +5

    The SLO will always be one of my top 5 favs! They added DC Heaters to these new generation amps which for the non-amp tech savvy means a potentially less noisy amp.

    • @uvicjames
      @uvicjames 19 дней назад

      Yep, that's a big upgrade. The CAE OD-100 was one of the early SLO competitors that had those DC heaters.

  • @petergedd9330
    @petergedd9330 5 месяцев назад +1

    The dynamics sound lovely, snappy, silky top end and zero flubber on the bottom, lots of sustain on the overdrive without mud, deffo a game changer. I can definitely hear Room 335 in there, it's got that silvery sound on the tops and a beautiful tension in the string that you can control, lovely!!

  • @timnatrajan
    @timnatrajan 5 месяцев назад +2

    Would love an SLO 100.
    This is the best tone I’ve heard from you on this channel.
    I once played one in a store about 20 years ago and it was the best thing I’d ever heard!

  • @deddiev1718
    @deddiev1718 5 месяцев назад +11

    What makes many of the amps he tries sound similar is either the same speaker or IR

  • @dennisbelon4475
    @dennisbelon4475 6 дней назад

    I’ve been shopping for a new amp and the Soldano SLO-100 wasn’t even on my radar until recently. Based on what I’ve seen and heard it’s now at the top of my list. Fantastic amp.

  • @jayboy6895
    @jayboy6895 5 месяцев назад +3

    Hi Paul. You’re certainly the big brother of the family now mate. Congratulations. Well deserved. Sounds bad ass. All you need is a Tyler studio elite. You really need to check out the series parallel switching. You’re welcome to use mine.
    Enjoy

  • @limpeacock573
    @limpeacock573 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great demo! Thanks Paul.

    • @speedyeg-guitars-playlists4800
      @speedyeg-guitars-playlists4800 5 месяцев назад

      When I watch live performances at festivals or in halls, I usually see Marshall. In studios, depending on the style of music, I sometimes see Fender or FOX. The German brand ENGL is rarely seen and when it is, it is usually with European or German bands. ENGL has been around since 1983. They are not as expensive as Soldano, but they are not cheap either.

  • @garywaddell6309
    @garywaddell6309 5 месяцев назад

    Gotta be my fav amp, sounds awesome with all of your guitars Paul! Crunch tone is amazing and with your Les Paul, oh my ❤

  • @TheRodge2112
    @TheRodge2112 5 месяцев назад

    Can't speak to the amp, but the pedal is very nice! A lot of upper harmonics and character and cleans up like a champ. Good stuff, Paul!

  • @Metalovai
    @Metalovai 2 месяца назад

    That strat is gorgeous.

  • @Peter_Stoops
    @Peter_Stoops 5 месяцев назад

    I got my first SLO in 2008, been rockin’ em ever since. I agree with all that you said here. I am loading my Soldano’s down in my studio, Fryette Power Station or Captor X, I run them pretty hard, they open up more with the volume past the halfway mark🔥🔥🔥🎸🎸🎸

  • @BLWGuitar
    @BLWGuitar 4 месяца назад

    Best sounding amp demo yet!

  • @tomittner6683
    @tomittner6683 Месяц назад

    As an owner of a Marshall 410 I would rate this amp a very close 2nd. Nice demo

  • @BLWGuitar
    @BLWGuitar 2 месяца назад

    Best tone I have heard on your channel!

  • @AzaelVI
    @AzaelVI 5 месяцев назад +3

    Run a eq in the effects loop (I recommend the Mesa Boogie 5 band pedal) and an 808 TS in the front on the amp and listen to it go from a great sound to OMG.

  • @BenjaminGoude
    @BenjaminGoude 5 месяцев назад +1

    Reminds me of an American Thunderverb. The high gain sounds have always been lackluster to me, but I also love my 5150 and a tighter tone. The low gain sounds of this amp are surprisingly really nice and smooth though!

  • @deddiev1718
    @deddiev1718 5 месяцев назад +6

    You can go Round and Round with this Amp

    • @lelandgaunt7130
      @lelandgaunt7130 3 месяца назад +1

      🤣 but it's not what he used on that album.

  • @Chucksguitargeekery
    @Chucksguitargeekery 5 месяцев назад +1

    All I know is that with every modeler I’ve used through the years, whenever one had a SLO100 model it was always my favorite.

  • @Oogiesgarage
    @Oogiesgarage 5 месяцев назад

    These tones from this amp sound heavenly.

  • @robertaustin1945
    @robertaustin1945 5 месяцев назад

    The amp that slays them all

  • @KajHeGeHaggman
    @KajHeGeHaggman 5 месяцев назад

    Lovely cleans!

  • @hanovergreen4091
    @hanovergreen4091 5 месяцев назад +1

    Using same settings, my Neural SLO100 sounds the same. Good fidelity/reality check. Thank You for the walkthrough on an amp I will touch but love the sound of Best Regards and Best Wishes!

  • @rwest8905
    @rwest8905 5 месяцев назад +2

    Waiting to hear that Strat in the high gain mode. Thanks.

  • @cwness4587
    @cwness4587 5 месяцев назад +1

    Don't regret getting my SLO 30 and it's not cheap. If I want more room I just add my Fryette Power Station. Cooking little setup.

  • @deddiev1718
    @deddiev1718 5 месяцев назад +3

    There are less expensive hidden gems out there. It’s a lifelong journey

  • @mattsefton
    @mattsefton 5 месяцев назад +6

    Sounds amazing as it always did. Would love to hear it side by side with my 1987 Jubilee

  • @SeanGould
    @SeanGould 5 месяцев назад

    I have an ac30 and a twin but this is the clean sound I’ve been looking for - which I’ve never heard anyone else get from a Soldano. Was about to buy a Bogner and now not sure. Decisions….

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  5 месяцев назад +1

      Ive had both the slo and a Ecstasy and i prefer the SLO. It doesnt have as much gain as the xtc but in my opinion its more versatile.

  • @MadMagicPaul
    @MadMagicPaul 5 месяцев назад +2

    Are the Tonex captures with or without a cab? What cab / IR did you use in this video please? Sounded amazing!

  • @tymanngruter1808
    @tymanngruter1808 5 месяцев назад

    And that with a custom shop strat...... iff you will know how heaven SOUNDS? Goosebumps all over! ♨️♨️♨️

  • @frolics
    @frolics 4 месяца назад

    Best, most versatile amp for anyone chasing clean > high gain tones. Voicing’s great with both Marshall and Mesa cabs.

  • @chromebuoy
    @chromebuoy 5 месяцев назад

    Lovin that Steve Vai riff, maximum meat! 🤘

  • @ThomasOnGuitar
    @ThomasOnGuitar 5 месяцев назад

    The QC Captures sound great man! 👍To anyone thinking about buying these. They sound stellar.😎

  • @raylloyd102
    @raylloyd102 3 месяца назад

    Sounds SOOOOO GOOOD!!!
    What Cab/IR are you using please?
    Excellent!!

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  3 месяца назад

      Cheers, I’m using a two notes torpedo studio

  • @midnight4u
    @midnight4u 5 месяцев назад

    Part of the original hype or sound (whichever one prefers) of the SLO back in the day was due to the custom wound DeYoung transformers. Which at the time when the company was still owned by Mike Soldano and the amps where hand-wired were only available on the SLO model. I couldn't tell from the video, do these new models still have the DeYoung?

  • @UncleYoshi
    @UncleYoshi 4 месяца назад

    Hello Paul, I really like the way you demonstrated the various tones you can get, as well as how you captured the sounds. I've listened to other video demonstrations and some of them made it sound too shrill & screechy. This amp is more geared towards the old school sounds from the 80s but some say they can shape it to a modern metal sound with OD pedals. Excellent video. Thank you. ☺ Liked 👍🏻#578

  • @KyleKingGuitar
    @KyleKingGuitar 3 месяца назад

    I want to like the SLO, but I had a 2021 100 watt I got new and couldn't gel with it and ended up returning it.
    Mainly struggled with how it felt to play, felt very stiff and cold to me as opposed to my other amps. Felt the OD channel was quite tubby sounding in person too at the gain levels I like which wasn't my thing. Clean and Crunch were killer though!
    Other SLO style amps I've tried left similar impressions on me, so it must just be a sensitivity I have to the circuit.
    Sounds killer here with all that said though.

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 5 месяцев назад +2

    It sounds big.

  • @31415926535ism
    @31415926535ism 5 месяцев назад

    You won’t be playing that cranked in the same room as the speakers! My original nearly deafened me! What an amp, you must experience it in a stack.

  • @SuperWaxer
    @SuperWaxer Месяц назад

    Reverb sounds awesome. Which one did you use?

  • @speedyeg-guitars-playlists4800
    @speedyeg-guitars-playlists4800 5 месяцев назад

    The only time I saw a Band using Soldano was Blondie (Rapture) in 2018 and the first time the drummer playing in a plexiglass booth. To me a sign of perfection on the highest level. I was not surprised. That's Debbie and Blondie. They do it that way or they don't give a live performance at all. The Video is in my channel.

  • @darrylweller6143
    @darrylweller6143 5 месяцев назад +1

    How does this compare to the Bloomfield drive? Which would you prefer?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  5 месяцев назад

      Very different beasts. The Bloomfield has way less gain. Both great, just different.

  • @bodefosho
    @bodefosho 5 месяцев назад +11

    The SLO-30 is absolutely brilliant, the same amp in a more usable package IMHO.

    • @vonbleak101
      @vonbleak101 5 месяцев назад +2

      100% Agree - These days you really dont need a 100w beast of an amp... The 30w version is more than enough for most people these days...

    • @markspin4596
      @markspin4596 5 месяцев назад

      And made in China...

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  5 месяцев назад +8

      @markspin4596 no it made in USA

    • @markspin4596
      @markspin4596 5 месяцев назад

      @@TheStudioRats News to me.

    • @paulevans-b2j
      @paulevans-b2j 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@markspin4596Why would you think it was made in China, they have always been made in the USA

  • @HEZ63
    @HEZ63 5 месяцев назад

    I preferred the SL-60, while I completely dislike the SL-30 or the Astro.
    But, in direct comparison a regular JVM 410H would be my first choice much more, not only, but also because of the price.

  • @ryanbender2462
    @ryanbender2462 27 дней назад

    What kind of cab are u using?? Thanks

  • @yairraz9894
    @yairraz9894 5 месяцев назад +1

    What speaker cab did you use for this demo?

  • @GmanMusicProductions
    @GmanMusicProductions 5 месяцев назад

    The closest I'll ever get to a SLO 100 is the Synergy SLO module. Which gets those OD tones in spades at an affordable price. The clean/crunch channel would be a great pedal platform for sure.

    • @mad24r45
      @mad24r45 5 месяцев назад +2

      Good thing is that will get you very close indeed. I use the module in a Synergy top for years now. The SLO mostly lives from the preamp concept anyways, I can highly recommend the module.
      *trevia: Synergy and the current Soldanos are made in the same factory. The tech lead behind Synergy and Soldano there was Peter Arends who moved on to Bad Cat in the meantime, not Mike Soldano. The SLO Module and the SLO 100 are coming from the same hands and ears.

    • @GmanMusicProductions
      @GmanMusicProductions 5 месяцев назад

      @@mad24r45 Agreed, I have the SLO module along with other modules from Synergy and Egnater. Covers all my tone quest.

  • @deltafit
    @deltafit 5 месяцев назад

    Sounds great. Are you using an IR for this recording? If so do you mind saying which one?

  • @jfoquendo
    @jfoquendo 5 месяцев назад

    Ive beem following this channel for years and never suspected i would have seen 1:28 I cant stop laughing ! THANK YOU !

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  5 месяцев назад

      yeah no one needs to see that!

  • @kitchenguitarshred8587
    @kitchenguitarshred8587 2 месяца назад

    Awsome demo bud, what les paul are u using ?

  • @robertalsbury
    @robertalsbury 3 месяца назад

    How does the 100 watt version sound at lower volume? I don’t see a master on the front?

  • @74581
    @74581 Месяц назад

    Do you prefer this Soldano over the Friedman Phil X?

  • @anderskarlsson7152
    @anderskarlsson7152 5 месяцев назад

    What version of Tonex (max, CS etcetera) do I need to be able to use those Tonex captures?

  • @hometycoon1
    @hometycoon1 5 месяцев назад

    Any suggestions for the best cab or IR with this amp please?

  • @pauloeduardo820
    @pauloeduardo820 4 месяца назад

    Hello friend! As for noise, is it very noisy with high gain?
    Thanks!

  • @tyroneenglish8396
    @tyroneenglish8396 5 месяцев назад +13

    It’s amazing. But at that price, it should play the riffs for me.

    • @danpena7922
      @danpena7922 5 месяцев назад +2

      It better clean the house and cut my yard too!

  • @jesterraj
    @jesterraj 5 месяцев назад

    Whats skeaker in the cab u used

  • @DeadReckoner
    @DeadReckoner 5 месяцев назад

    How do you think it compares to a Mark V 90?

  • @aleaallee
    @aleaallee 28 дней назад

    What mic did you use to record it? The clean tone was PERFECT.

  • @azharkhan8796
    @azharkhan8796 5 месяцев назад +1

    Still no Satriani riffs, Paul? 😅

  • @daviddixon7326
    @daviddixon7326 5 месяцев назад

    How would you rate that vs the MezzaBarba Skill 30 you demo’d not too long ago?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  5 месяцев назад

      The Mezzabarba had more gain and if I’m honest, just a good as the Soldano.

    • @SluggerStark
      @SluggerStark 5 месяцев назад

      I had an early 90's SLO 100 and also owned a Mezzabarba Trinity 100 a couple years ago. You can definitely hear the Soldano influence in the Mezzabarba, but it is a bit more modern in voicing, more gain and tighter. The SLO is a bit more open, punchier and had more "give" in the feel department.

  • @anderskarlsson7152
    @anderskarlsson7152 4 месяца назад

    Soldano vs Friedman Phil X??

  • @MrTekbow
    @MrTekbow 4 месяца назад

    Out of interest, what speaker/mic or IRs were you using?

  • @satch4u3
    @satch4u3 5 месяцев назад

    I thought that I read somewhere that the SLO-100 was loosely based on and inspired by a Dual Rectifier

    • @oioi909
      @oioi909 5 месяцев назад +5

      The Rectifier is a copy of the SLO with a different power section. SLO 1987 - Rectifier 1992

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  5 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve tried rectifiers and they don’t sound like this. But yes I’ve that as well.

    • @satch4u3
      @satch4u3 5 месяцев назад

      @@oioi909Ahh I stand corrected. Had it backwards!

    • @zachtheguitarmaniac
      @zachtheguitarmaniac 5 месяцев назад

      No. It's the other way around... the Mesa Dual Rectifier preamp is almost identical to the SLO... it's in the power amp where Mesa cheapened out/deviated... and in the end, also what gives the recto it's different tone.

  • @mrnorbotron3308
    @mrnorbotron3308 5 месяцев назад

    8:13 "Mesaba" ?

  • @TheConspiracytheory1
    @TheConspiracytheory1 5 месяцев назад

    Still the greatest Amp made in my opinion and one i'll never get to have :( i have many marshalls and blackstars and multiple pedals and i still can't get this awesome tone ..... oh well back to the dream i guess

  • @vonbleak101
    @vonbleak101 5 месяцев назад

    Not sure if you need the 100w version these days - But yeah Soldano are the best, period haha...

  • @Thatbobguy8
    @Thatbobguy8 5 месяцев назад

    If only guitar players would grow a pair and play loud tube amps again!

  • @jjdubois6101
    @jjdubois6101 5 месяцев назад

    What pickups are in that strat?

  • @zachtheguitarmaniac
    @zachtheguitarmaniac 5 месяцев назад

    Every amp you demo just sounds the same pretty much with varying degrees of gain. You seem to dial them in pretty similar when going for what you want to hear in your head. Makes sense, and my only observation is that your tones usually sound very "close mic'd"... so give your sounds a dose of a good room plugin and add some depth and sense of space. If you are using the same IR's for most of your demos... also try varying them. In my experience... If you have amps of the same "type" ...be it 6L6, EL34, 6V6, etc. and compare them all through the same recorded cabinet.... you can get them to sound almost the same really. The commonality of the cabinet and tube type between them can really make them redundant sound wise. Same with IR's as physical cabinets.

  • @DigitalViperGaming
    @DigitalViperGaming 5 месяцев назад

    I want to play that Strat just one time. :)

  • @deddiev1718
    @deddiev1718 5 месяцев назад +1

    Paul you should get a Tyler

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  5 месяцев назад

      You’re not the first person to say that.

  • @ArthurVere
    @ArthurVere 4 месяца назад

    The brand new one I tried wasn't good. I owned a X88r preamp before and it sounded much much better with the true Soldano grain. If I had to buy a SLO100, I'd play one of the early ones.

  • @go4384
    @go4384 4 месяца назад

    A great amp for all those bedroom guitarists out there in need of stadium level noise

  • @markusm.8302
    @markusm.8302 5 месяцев назад

    I guess many are asking themselves the question, whether the SLO-30 is enough for them

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  5 месяцев назад +1

      Absolutely, many people say its just as good.

  • @ivicapavlovic3879
    @ivicapavlovic3879 5 месяцев назад

    Nice dynamics but I do not understand why it is so expensive. I was ready to buy one in the ninties but somebody told me then tha they usually sound very different and when try one and love, buy that unit, otherwise, yeah you know what I mean,….

  • @italoop7850
    @italoop7850 5 месяцев назад

    Oh yes! AxeFX and Kemper MY ASS!!!!

  • @Varone26
    @Varone26 5 месяцев назад

    If it’s a one all be all solution, it’s worth the price considering it covers everything.
    You won’t need any other amp.
    But really, majority of people only need a SLO30. 100 watts for home use or recording is pointless.

  • @Manley156
    @Manley156 5 месяцев назад

    It is a great amp, but I don't know if lives up to 'god like' hype guitar influencers and corksniffers claim. I've owned and SLO and lucky 13, fantastic amps, but the "Best AMP EVER" talk annoys me to no end when it comes down to a use base and preference of tone. You sound great with it though!

  • @Johnny-oy9fh
    @Johnny-oy9fh 5 месяцев назад

    Turn it up to 7 on the master and wail....that's what it's for....

  • @danpena7922
    @danpena7922 5 месяцев назад

    Get the Nueral sim.. It's just as good and only. 100 bucks and 50 on sale! Fact! Unless you want to spend 4 grand plus tax. Of course if you have the coin and that's your thing. Go for it! It's great looking at it in you bedroom whilst you are jamming with a nice wig on. :) Hey! Doctors and Lawyers need amps too!

  • @curtspoerer4424
    @curtspoerer4424 5 месяцев назад

    This amp has to be played thru a cab not a load box and ir’s . There is a whole other experience thru a cab. And yes I owned one and an SLO30 so I know all too well…

  • @martinopinto6323
    @martinopinto6323 5 месяцев назад +1

    Listen this is a great amp, but Idk, I never liked his tone, it has that aggressive midrange bite that makes it sound like a cheap multi fx.. I'm sorry, it's just my hot take😂

  • @toliskoskinas
    @toliskoskinas 5 месяцев назад

    Back in '86 (I think), Mike thought "what if I use the best available components and build this amp that doesn't really copy an effin Marshall / Fender ?"
    And he made it. I had one and it was a religious experience.
    I am really happy for you Paul, please stay hydrated and nourished while you're on this gorgeous honeymoon phase 😄🤩🎸🎸🎸

  • @Ca_milo_G
    @Ca_milo_G 5 месяцев назад +1

    mmm NO!! for that price go to original

  • @Johnny-oy9fh
    @Johnny-oy9fh 5 месяцев назад

    Yep....used to be my dream amp 30 years ago...totally unusable now sadly

  • @alexhedstrom582
    @alexhedstrom582 5 месяцев назад

    No it is not.

  • @harrybee3093
    @harrybee3093 5 месяцев назад +1

    Please Paul: some new chords-even you can learn it. 🙂

  • @TheCSteve
    @TheCSteve 5 месяцев назад

    this amp is cool , but 4000 dollar is too much .. even my car i lower priced 🤣

  • @ted501
    @ted501 5 месяцев назад

    to me~ 4000... pcb circuit ??? ,,, sucks

    • @marcopanza1011
      @marcopanza1011 5 месяцев назад +1

      Components are still mounted by hand on pcb…the pcb does not mean lower quality…it all depends on the quality of the pcb itself…and many so called point to point amps made today are not really point to point but they are ‘turret pcb contruction’ cause point to point construction has all components on air without any board….people do not know it and thinks that turret pcb construction is point to point…no way at all

    • @ted501
      @ted501 5 месяцев назад

      @marcopanza1011 that's just your argument... everyone has a very different set of values. I feel it at my fingertips and I feel it in my ears... it's not important because you don't feel it. even if you feel it's a matter of how important the difference is to you...

    • @marcopanza1011
      @marcopanza1011 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ted501 it’s not my argument…current ‘point to point amps’ ARE NOT POINT TO POINT but ‘turret pcb construction’..real point to point is the one you find in old VOX and MATCHLESS amps with components only connected by wires and without any board….document yourself…and pcb construction is not automatically bad quality at all…ask some of the best and most famous techs around and they will confirm…then it’s your opinion and you can think what you want

    • @ted501
      @ted501 5 месяцев назад

      @marcopanza1011 yes, think as you like... & I'm also using old matchless well

    • @marcopanza1011
      @marcopanza1011 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@ted501 i do not think you got the point..or maybe we’re not understainding each other…from a technical point of view well done pcb construction like in Friedman, Mezzabarba or o ther big techs companies are not inferior to point to point construction…and that is somethings confirmed by every tech on the planet who knows something…then come personal preferences

  • @nicholasguitars5527
    @nicholasguitars5527 5 месяцев назад +1

    No its not. The Neural DSP plugin is $100 and sounds better 🙂

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  5 месяцев назад

      Interesting

    • @chromebuoy
      @chromebuoy 5 месяцев назад

      I have the Sim and it ain't sounding anything like this and it won't its digital, zero tubes.....its the poor man's SLO but it does a half decent job.

    • @nicholasguitars5527
      @nicholasguitars5527 5 месяцев назад

      @@chromebuoy everyone’s ears are different.

  • @maxs.5163
    @maxs.5163 5 месяцев назад

    Bad cat, friedman, rivera, mezzabarba better and cheaper.

  • @siggmundfloyd1858
    @siggmundfloyd1858 5 месяцев назад

    Short answer. No.
    No amp should cost more than $500

  • @gbkiller007
    @gbkiller007 5 месяцев назад

    No

  • @TheCyberMantis
    @TheCyberMantis 5 месяцев назад +1

    No amp is worth that price.

  • @stoofbuis
    @stoofbuis 5 месяцев назад

    My diezel vh4 is way more versatile and 1000 euro cheaper.........so the soldano must be over priced,