@@04dram04 my god, perfectly said. Unfortunately, most times with successful comics, they have a fire that burns inside of them, that pushes them to the top. Whats unfortunate about it is, that very same fire sets the bridges theyve passed up unto this point ABLAAAZZEEE. And we loveeee to watch it burn, people inside banging on the windows for help as they literally melt. Its just life in the big city, ma boy. Just simply life in the big city….. 🤷♂️
Tim just had to slip that in when Ben apologized if he hurt his feelings "No, you didn't hurt my feelings. If you did, I would have fired and get rid of you". I was giving Tim the benefit of the doubt, but that sentence right there. Putting myself in Ben shoes, I would have also quit. The constant reminder that he can take away Ben's livelihood any time he chooses is ironic in this context.
He called a business partner a racist on the day he lost his career. This is why you don’t do business with friends or family. Any other random would have been fired over this, understand the real world and the privileged position a nobody like Ben was in
@@wilsonsclips_ are you kidding? Tim’s comedy is based on saying inappropriate things it’s called being irreverent…. A healthy interaction about this would focus on Ben’s intentions. He meant it as a joke, he apologized, his hearts in the right place. Unfortunately, Tim is showing narcissistic tendencies here and being aggressive toward Ben, being aggressive is all about domination and control, showing you are above someone, something that is never okay. Underhandedly threatening to fire Ben in that way is a clear cut example of this. Punishing Ben with overbearing criticism instead of just accepting his sincere apology and acknowledging his intentions is aggressive…. Tim L… this was a clear case of projection and narcissism from Tim.
Ben Avery stop going on all your alt accounts to defend yourself and attack Tim, I know its you because there are entire videos around this drama that got uploaded and deleted in last 4 hours, and I know this because I got replies from them that I can't no longer access since the video don't exist. Which means ben avery is absolutely making alt accounts and trying to upload BS to give this situation positive spin. "Tim just had to slip that in when Ben apologized if he hurt his feelings "No, you didn't hurt my feelings. If you did, I would have fired and get rid of you"." TIM had to slip that in? BEN had to slip it in that "oh concede this, admit this, about the woman at the traffic stop" WHAT. Bro the second some no-name producer whose entire job is to press the record button tries to tell you that YOU need to do something FOR HIM you slap a 1st class shipping label on his forehead and you throw him out the door physically.
@@axos3130 It’s not Ben genius, it’s actually “Bent Pixels” which is the infamous RUclips management company that Rogan and Schaub use to copyright strike and scrub all negative videos of them online. I saw the message from Bent Pixels when I tried to go back to one of them. Can’t believe Tim uses them too, and is clearly trying to scrub these videos.
This is a reminder that no matter what you do and who you work for, your boss is not your friend. No matter how familiar you become over time they will pull rank on you the moment they think you are being the slightest bit insubordinate.
ya because other shows have people going around being toxic to their sponsors all the time right? maybe tim wants the show to be successful and maybe ben giving the show a bad rep to sponsors is like a no brainer that he shouldnt be doing it? like do you think joe rogan has to tell jamie not to do something so dumb? yet poor ben as hes literally tripling down on disrespecting a sponsor. i think bens ego is to easily hurt to be on a show like this. he should not even be visible tims literally soloing all the content all ben has to do is not fuck that up and yet somehow hes managing to try
Really dark, situational view being used as a blanket view on bosses. I’ve had shit bosses, and then amazing bosses. Don’t think one sidedly people. It’s not good for you
It went from Ben posted an "inside joke" on a friend's wall to "you attacked a business partner online." It went from you called out my bad behavior to you attacked me. My head is spinning - I think Ben really triggered Tim by calling him crazy...probably thinking about his mama.
I think once Tim sensed he got under Ben’s skin he decided to keep turning the screws for comedic effect. Usually Ben is fine with being the punching bag but I’m guessing there’s been stuff going on behind the scenes that led to this boiling over.
Tim was actually describing himself when he said people lash out at those closest to them when they know they’re wrong. Good for Ben that he stood up for himself.
Projecting is a coping mechanism by someone who isn’t ready to see how vast the mental illness is within their own psyche. Not sure Tim will ever see it though because no one ever sticks around long enough to get through to him. Then when they finally throw their hands up in exasperation Tim blames them not himself.
said a little kid that thinks bens feelings are more important than running a successful business and show and doing anything to hurt the shows reputation especially with sponsors is like so dumb that your ego has to be huge that you think your tweet is more important than protecting the show. good bye ben show will be bigger than ever now that you are out the way thank you for making this easier and quicker than it could have been
@@luketanner736 rockets right tho... that tweet was obviously not a good idea... inside joke or not, do those jokes in private. theres a reason many jobs now demand their employees not use twitter or other social media platforms while working there, because the stuff you post can come back to hurt the companies reputation and image. like that one female police officer who kept making twerking videos on tik tok and lost her job because she was in uniform and on duty while making them. tim is an asshole EVERYONE here should NOT be shocked by this... period. its tims entire appeal that he is a funny asshole who goes on huge insane rants in a funny way. ben's tweet might seem unimportant to you but to sponsors, potential sponsors and anyone who runs any sort of serious business would instantly know NOT to post that in public.. imagine you greet your friends in a weird or offensive way in private when you go out with the boys BUT you use that inside offensive joke greeting out in public while at work... its wildly inapproperate.
@@ninvusoogoar6098 oh the irony of this. Ben is followed by less than 50k people on Twitter, I don’t believe that tweet blew up or anything? So the only way for that tweet to damage the reputation of the company is if Tim does exactly what he did and makes a big deal about it. I’m sure 99% of the people listening had no clue Ben tweeted anything to Steve but now they do. And just for it to backfire on Tim making him look even worse for sponsors and fans. Guarantee Tim lost more revenue from this situation than any backlash from a relatively unknown podcast producer making an inside joke.
In all seriousness, Tim seems like a nightmare to work for. I’ve always been a huge fan, and watch all Tim’s videos the hour he puts them out. But you can tell Tim probably gets really angry when he doesn’t get his way.
Tim was in the wrong, he’s comfortable bullying Ben which is why he’s disrespectful towards him. Tim’s head is getting too big now and that drug joke Ben made hurt Tim because it’s true. Tim should be grateful he managed to make money being an asshole or else he’d still be hitting the pipe.
Good for you Ben!! Good on you for not backing down each way Tim came at you and tried to manipulate the conversation for his benefit and side. I'm happy you stepped away, held your composure and acted like a man, kudos brother! You're better off without this bullying. Good luck!
Ben doesn’t owe us an apology. He wasn’t vicious, disgusting, or anything else Tim accused him of. Ben’s laughing it off because the alternative is to be truthful with Tim and actually lean in on Tim without the laughs.. Tim clearly won’t listen. His T ball illustration was demeaning and condescending. Ben doesn’t want to call out Tim because he sees how much Tim drones on and on after a basic comment about Tim’s funny/insane lashing out at people. Ben could have been much more bold about him, about how he just reiterated the same point on repeat for 30 minutes. Tim's inability to take any correction turned into quiet, soft-spoken berating for 30 minutes. Tim crossed the line and Ben is out. Now the in-house reactor to Tim’s insanity is gone and the show will be a new show. As someone who enjoyed the show, it was funny to see Ben's reaction to Tim's psychotic rants. We laughed with Ben, not with Tim. Ben's sanity is what we really connected with as viewers as we were entertained by Tim's insanity.
i like that tim’s a bad person, that being said i would never take the shit he gives ben. although for what ben was getting paid i probably would actually
ya because any of that is a good idea when trying to build a successful show right? like sure ben go create a toxic reputation for us to sponsors that way we never grow. oh you dont like that i thought that was foolish? sorry but i dont think joe rogan has to tell jamie not to do something so dumb. if doing your job well is grounds for you to leave then see ya later.
@@StuartFuckingLittle if you didn’t realize this within 2 minutes of watching his show…. I feel bad for you. I guess you are enjoying the drama though? Maybe go watch the Kardashiansv
This isn’t a bit. This is exactly who Tim is. A bitter, narcissistic queen who uses mind games to abuse the man who helped build his brand. This entire speech is how abusive partners treat their spouses. He’s actually a creep. 😂😂😂
It’s definitely not and anybody who thinks it’s all a bit is coping hard, but it was a liiiiittle funny (at his expense) that at this point Tim was trying to slip into bit-mode, to lighten the mood I guess? An “A” for effort that got the “F” overall
I mean yeah this has always been Tim but that’s why we love him. Once his personality starts being put upfront to someone else we care about, it becomes very apparent and we start getting defensive.
It's definitely not a big - agreed. That being said, I believe Tim does become super hyperbolic at various times during this argument because he'll be able to then say "It was a bit! And Ben can't take a joke!" It's a classic move by ässhöles. "I was just joking, relax!" But in its entirety, the argument taking place is not a bit.
Ben did attack him out of nowhere and right at the end of the podcast, which means ben prepared for this and thought about this for the entire day if not week. Imagine little ben just sitting there glowering. Lol funny little man.
tim is fucked up dude. this is insane. I can't believe tim would ever do this to another human being. what a controlling sick fuck. I've experienced these kind of emotionally immature people in person many times, and this sends chills down my spine. good for ben for being the bigger person. I don't think I could've held it together as well as him.
@@conormcgregorwasnevermyfri1984 bits can only go on for so long until they start to get to you. When Tim said “if I was mad I’d just replace you” that’s a very manipulative, power hungry thing to say. I love Tim but I understand why Ben is choosing to step away
Bro oh my god Tim’s so sensitive. Dude makes fun of homeless people and is mad at Ben for making a joke about some millionaire from Florida. it seems like a bit but good for Ben for leaving
So comedians DO get offended at other peoples jokes?? I’ll never listen to Tim again when he complains that other people get upset at his jokes and he justifies it as “just comedy ‘“
He’s trying to make comedy based off it. Also he has a point that the comment doesn’t at all look like a joke sense no one knew the inside joke side of it
@@GeneralJiggle In what way? His recent youtube videos are 50/50 likes dislikes. His patreon episode was so heavily bashed that he deleted it. He also lost a pretty large chunk of patreon followers. Seems like a pretty big hit to me.
Ha I do not know about that It was a little more funny when he laughed because it’s funny to see someone break. Maybe there are a few people that don’t know when to laugh, but I hope it’s not a lot of people
Probably could have resolved it all if it weren't for the "I'd fire you" comment near the end. Hard to let an argument go when the other party casually brings up they're in control of your livelihood just to win.
Tim can finally lower his guard and come out of his shell now that he’s free of his attacker. Can’t wait for the creative tsunami that comes from his new found freedom
This is exactly how it works with manipulative people. They do something wrong, then blame it on you, and then demand an apology before anything can continue. Then don’t accept the apology. And then if the person happens to be a loved one/ parent they insist that you must not love or care for them because of how badly you treat them 😒
Narcissists can’t stand someone who sees through the mask, calls out their bs and stands up for themselves. It wouldn’t shock me if Tim actually fired Ben the moment he realised he’d lost his grip and probably couldn’t manipulate or control him after this
It reminds me of the exact relationship I have with my boss. We both care about each other and will vouch for one another, but our relationship is always on thin ice because of his harshness and mood swings. It feels like one day I will just leave, and I think Ben is basically at that point.
Tim is a good guy. His behavior is narcissistic though, so his values hierarchy & internal emotional intelligence development are child-like. Doesn’t make him bad, just child-like. Not a great boss.
@@elektrotehnik94 Tim fucks up once and everyone thinks they're psychologist..... people are already calling him a groomer.......... Tim is in the wrong here. but their is more to this story. it looks like things might have added to get to this point.... Tim is being very hypocritical here since he's always dancing on graves.... but his behavior is weird..... he completely attacked Ben here. it's always. joke but this time wasn't (maybe).
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo I have not seen a single comment calling him a groomer. It's obvious Tim is a Narcissist. Anyone watching the podcast knew that and it's part of the reason it was so funny. Airing this rant on the live podcast gives you an idea that it was probably happening off camera too. Which is completely unnecceptable if true.
It was definitely the "if you offended me id fire you." Line from Tim that reverberated in Ben's head for weeks. Up until Ben realized the reverse of this cat and mouse game was true. Meaning, if Ben leaves, there's no show. This is truly devastating for the audience, myself included. I wish Tim and Ben the best and hope they move on with no hard feelings.
Ohhhhh myyyyyy goddddd if Ben leaves there’s no show? Dude, Tim could build from scratch ten more times without anyone even thinking about Ben. “Truly devastating” Literally nobody cares except some gossiping drama queens in the comment sections hahaha
The fact that you think Tim and Ben are on the same level and were equal parts in the show is truly sad. And you definitely haven’t watched the show long enough. If you did you’d already know Tim will be fine. Go watch the Ben Avery Show I bet it’ll be hilarious……
Hook line and sinker with that one. Tim's narcissism hulked out like a cold sore breakout in this one. No hiding it. This is like if someone was intentionally trying to demonstrate what arguing with a grandiose narcissist looks like and deliberately tried to show every symptom of the illness. And that line about firing him was the closer. "If you were to stop amusing me, I'd discard you." Which of course, was a bluff, because narcissists don't actually want to lose their supply, but they do love to threaten with abandonment since it's something they themselves fear so much. According to Tim, he offered him more money but Ben was done.
And Ben should have taken it to make us laugh. I'm not laughing when Ben's getting defensive and getting all serious when Tim is still half-way joking. Ruined my entertainment
Wow I always thought Tim was just joking when he insulted Ben because this is how he usually speaks but now everything is clear and I'm truly disappointed. I'm not going to support Tim anymore, this is disgusting, I'm unsubscribing from yt and patreon
Please actually unsubscribe from patreon though! That’s his bread and butter Tim will be fine in the end but he should feel some kind of financial sting since he’s so obsessed with money Please do it!
Tim has literally become an arrogant upper class freak that has to constantly display the need for respect. i used to love this podcast but i never knew this attitude was real i thought it was a front or something. real bummer.
“If you really hurt my feelings I’d fire you and get someone else” remember when they were recording podcasts in BENS HOUSE what a snake man. No joke Tim broke my heart with this shit.
If this is how Tim treats Ben on his show, imagine what he’s like behind the scenes. This feels like the needle that broke the camels back. Good for Ben and very bad for Tim.
Having grown up with an irrational and manipulative narcissist, this is kind of uncomfortable to listen to. Cross the like of being a “bit”. I suppose that’s part of what makes Tim so good at what he does, though… Can’t wait to see what Ben is up to!
doesnt sound like you have grown up though? adults know better than to attack their own shows sponsor and create a bad reputation for brands that would be willing to work with you in the future. see you are a child so you see it like ah poor ben he was a meany. but an adult would go poor tim bens trying to fuck with the $how
8:45 … I think out of this whole argument this is where ben decided is was over for him, Tim usually jokes about how expendable Ben is but seemed to actually mean it there
The whole premise of “Ben attacking Tim” was Tim literally said “can you think of a time I’ve ever acted like you did?” What a POS. Now Tim can’t use the narcissist thing as a bit because we’ll think it’s real.
ya because other shows have people going around being toxic to their sponsors all the time right? maybe tim wants the show to be successful and maybe ben giving the show a bad rep to sponsors is like a no brainer that he shouldnt be doing it? like do you think joe rogan has to tell jamie not to do something so dumb? yet poor ben as hes literally tripling down on disrespecting a sponsor. i think bens ego is to easily hurt to be on a show like this. he should not even be visible tims literally soloing all the content all ben has to do is not fuck that up and yet somehow hes managing to try
I've scrolled through the comments of all three of these videos and you're the first person I've seen to point this out. Tim asked for an example and Ben gave him the first thing that came to mind. There was no "attack". There was no being "toxic" or "disrespectful" to a sponsor. Tim is a fucking control-freak lunatic. He is delusional. And the bots or simps or whatever the fuck they are like the clown above me that keep trying to justify this sick behavior are absolute cretins.
Don’t worry Tim finally realized he deserves better and will have no prob finding a more professional and talented producer in days. The abuse is finally over. Can’t wait to see Tim’s creative growth from this
@@liljes34 that was a joke anyone defending Tim is pretty much joking and I guess theres alot of people actually mad at Tim for taking his bit too far (even tho thats kinda his whole gig)
This was...uncomfortable. I think we've all had conversations like this with people. A shame this had to be public (even though it really didn't need to be, but for the sake of disclosure I'm glad it was, I guess?).
ben uploaded it which was way beyond the line. That's like if tim secretly recorded ben and then uploaded it. hell, tim should do that, just randomly come after ben for no reason with all this dirt on him, then record it, then upload it. too late now, but should've done that. ben avery is a coward and a scumbag, hope he gets dystentry in nebraska or wherever the f he's from and going back to lol
The appeal of Tim’s comedy is that we all thought he pretended to be a sociopath and to shit on Ben but yet deep down he was a decent guy, yet it feels like maybe it’s never been an act or is no longer an act. Well done to Ben for getting out. Toxic friendships are never good, particularly at work.
Ben was 50% of the fun of the "Tim Dillon Show." Everyone has a line and Tim crossed it, hopefully in time Ben and Tim can still be friends; but what hurt Ben the most was that he thought Tim was his real friend and not just someone who is paid to hang out with him. On the Bonus episode 167 that was then deleted Tim said " all I can do is give you money, I can't fix problems any other way." I'm sure a simple I'm sorry would've went much further with Ben than here's a bunch of money stay. Then the part where Ben said"I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings man," and Tim's response was "No you didn't hurt my feelings, if you hurt my feelings I would just fire you and get someone else." Tim saw Ben as expendable when Ben is 50% of the fun, plus you don't treat friends as expendable if they are really your friends. I think that hurt Ben the most, he thought they were real friends and Tim I guess doesn't know how to treat real friends. Plus Tim was saying he didn't want to talk about the post Ben made on air yet he did it anyway, he should have just not done it at all if he really didn't want to talk about it.
Tim is an insecure guy, hiding behind a mask of false confidence and self belief. It's a shame Tim can't do some work on himself and get back in touch with reality and his feelings. Ben is a more emotionally healthy person. Tim is currently not.
@@ETAisNOW I might be wrong; you might cherish money/ fame/ work more highly than we do. I/ “we” cherish devoted friendships very highly. Tim; seemingly he does not (as highly as I/ “we” do). Just a difference of our value hierarchy at this point in our life, that’s all ❤
@@elektrotehnik94 You just assumed a bunch of random crap to make yourself feel all virtuous on your moral high ground, ooo you must feel nice and cozy. Did you hold your little pinky up as you typed it out? Maybe smell some wine halfway through your little scripture? FYI your heavy use of adjectives and over/misuse of punctuation only makes you look smart to the ignorant. In reality it screams “Please accept me as a smart and wise person, I’m desperate for unearned external approval because I’m unhappy with myself but too emotionally lazy to do anything about it on my own!” See? I can be a RUclips psychologist and judge people too.
This reminds me of a crazy ex I once had. She'd go off the rails about something, I'd mention maybe going off the rails about it wasn't useful to us sorting it out, then the next two hours would be us going back forth about how she went about it and how it's bad to point it out.
Tim is terrified of Ben taking his fame away from him. “Innocent people rarely lash out” is so accurate. Tim can’t stop lashing out and grasping at whatever he can latch onto.
Attacks you with vicious insult after provocation after insult with zero self control for several minutes straight and the second you retaliate once, flips the board and calls you rude and insulting 😀 What a spectacular piece of shit
@@StuartFuckingLittle not at all, unlike most of you i dont let my emotions run how i think. theres a reason why the government/police/private companies are starting to force their employees off of social media like twitter/tik tok unless its part of their jobs... everything you do reflects your job/company/brand, what ben did does not look good to other sponsors and NO it does not matter that it was an inside joke for people wouldnt know that from reading it. also if you are going to toss around the word narc like how people toss around woke or SJW or racist at least actually understand what a real one is like... it is also why my employees are not allowed to use social media while employed with my company. people do dumb shit on social media or worse say shit that ends up getting their employers catch heat for. the police are doing it for many reasons like that one female cop who was making twerking tik toks while on patrol, on duty in her uniform and refused to stop doing it.
That the point where I stop liking someone anymore, let alone love them, that’s the point where my view of Tim changed, and I’m pretty sure most people can say the same, especially those who have experienced this kind of abuse firsthand.
I wish him well. I'm not saying this to Ben I'm saying this to Tim because he just shot himself in the foot. Tim brought chaotic comedy but Ben brought a lot of heart.
I think Tim wanted to sever ties with Ben for what ever reason, he kept intentionally triggering Ben by repeating "I didn't wanna bring it up" several times throughout the end imo to get a bigger reaction out of Ben so he could brush off the backlash from losing Ben as 'well I tried to have a talk with him but he went off, can't work with someone like that etc' but credit to Ben for his savage reply "the people giving the intervention need to be sober" Tim you've lost your closest friend and a fan but you know. I wish you well
I watched all three videos, and i can see what Tim was trying to do. Tim saw one of his sponsors be in a vulnerable position, and with Ben’s inside joke, he sqw where there could be potential trouble. However, i think Tim,(possibly), made a mistake that theres no coming back from. I think Tim tried doing one of his comical rants that he does, do a bit of damage control, but i think he tried over-deliver his point so he wouldnt loose a sponsor, and ended up loosing Ben instead. One, i think this was a conversation that should have been had off-air. Two, if youve ever seen Tim in the JRE, or in any other podcast for that matter, hes made it pretty clear that jokes are jokes. They shouldnt be taken seriously. He then proceeded to take Bens joke seriously. An *inside* joke. I think they should have just addressed it as an inside joke, maybe issue a small apology, and left it at that. Instead, he tried to clear the situation, and i think he only made it worse. Forget what this situation is about, what bugs me is the way he tries to tell ppl that jokes are just jokes, criticizes those who kneel to the sponsors, and it now seems like hes doing just that.
Yeah but Ben said it was his bad and apologized right away. He understood what tim was saying when talking about potentially hurting a sponsor. But tim was just circling it like a shark and wouldnt stop and tried to keep driving ben in the dirt. It could have easily ended when Ben said he was sorry and that it was his bad.
an inside joke would be sent in a private message. not publicly the day your sponsor is like dealing with something huge. maybe tim wants the show to be successful and maybe ben giving the show a bad rep to sponsors is like a no brainer that he shouldnt be doing it? like do you think joe rogan has to tell jamie not to do something so dumb? yet poor ben as hes literally tripling down on disrespecting a sponsor. i think bens ego is too easily hurt to be on a show like this. he should not even be visible tims literally soloing all the content all ben has to do is not fuck that up and yet somehow hes managing to try
@@rocketrob9436 thank you. People are acting like the show is called Tim and Ben’s Podcast. It’s the fkng Tim Dillon Show. Ben’s job was to look 💩 up and get ribbed by a comedian. Basically a dream gig that Ben gave up because of his fragile little ego. If you think any of this is “abuse” then y’all are literally the softest people walking the 🌎🤦🏻♂️😂
You don't lash out like this unless you are miserable in life. I hope Tim can find happiness, I don't think he will survive for long with this much hate in his heart.
Tim’s biggest problem here is that he’s taking out his self-admitted (and self-capitalized-upon) anger issues on his best friend, provoking Ben in a passive aggressive way for way too long, and assuming that he has the right to condescend to & “correct” another human being- let alone Ben- for doing something that he disagrees with comedically.
08:38 a genuine apology was given, and instead of just taking it and saying thank you, what you say when you accept an apology, Tim came back with something that I'm sure stuck in Ben's mind, because they're not joking, they're being serious; *you're replaceable.* I wouldn't be surprised if this moved Ben to quit, saying he was no longer satisfied with the job. Tim offered him more money because he didn't _really_ want him going anywhere, he was just insensitive beyond reason here. I'm sure Ben was already not happy at his work, but this would just put him over the edge to leaving, easy.
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Ben's comeback about the people conducting the intervention being on drugs is such a devastating line. Debate over.
Absolutely amazing line
Ben for sure, no doubt, bestest Tim. Game over
Do you really not realize they’re doing a bit? Super uncomfortable blur the lines bit, but a bit nonetheless. There’s no actual debate here.
@@KYDY not a bit, I just listened to the new episode with Ray and they're already trashing Ben
@@KYDY not a bit at all, we wish it was, but it’s not. Ben is really gone and Tim fucked it up bad
Tim is a gaslighting gold medalist.
Right?
Not really, he does a pretty shit job. Trying though, definitely in the minor leagues
Oh he’s Olympic caliber for sure- his mind is basically a pretzel rn
@@tobylewis1920 He's actually playing into it even more by letting it be so glaring. Sucks to see when irony is totally lost on people.
Based on this performance, I'd say he doesn't even medal. Strong effort from him though.
The show breaking down over Stevewilldoit has some comedy to it.
More like stevewillnolongerdoit
What did he write on steves page?
@@loopvil369 “You’re a racist”
IT’S NOT ABOUT THE PASTA!!!
@@loopvil369”you’re racist”
I appreciate that Ben just laughed in Tim’s face as he spat out complete insanity
Tim digs deeper into his own weird bs, and Ben just repeats it back at him while laughing. Perfect
Im shook I thought my boy had more logic than this
@@damonaluisyjr9970 No one is as brutally funny at Tim, without having a serious dark side
@@04dram04 my god, perfectly said. Unfortunately, most times with successful comics, they have a fire that burns inside of them, that pushes them to the top. Whats unfortunate about it is, that very same fire sets the bridges theyve passed up unto this point ABLAAAZZEEE. And we loveeee to watch it burn, people inside banging on the windows for help as they literally melt. Its just life in the big city, ma boy. Just simply life in the big city….. 🤷♂️
You enjoy this sadistic display if Tim’s???? This was so deeply disturbing. Ben handled it well but it was hideous and Tim is one sick fella
Tim is imploding. It was fun while it lasted.
It sure was dude what a wild ride
Money corrupts absolutely
The jake Paul and Ethan Klein fame destroyed him
It smells like relapse
yup... i gotta say... i'm not a fan anymore...
he's an abusive narc.
Tim just had to slip that in when Ben apologized if he hurt his feelings "No, you didn't hurt my feelings. If you did, I would have fired and get rid of you". I was giving Tim the benefit of the doubt, but that sentence right there. Putting myself in Ben shoes, I would have also quit.
The constant reminder that he can take away Ben's livelihood any time he chooses is ironic in this context.
He called a business partner a racist on the day he lost his career. This is why you don’t do business with friends or family. Any other random would have been fired over this, understand the real world and the privileged position a nobody like Ben was in
@@wilsonsclips_ are you kidding? Tim’s comedy is based on saying inappropriate things it’s called being irreverent…. A healthy interaction about this would focus on Ben’s intentions. He meant it as a joke, he apologized, his hearts in the right place. Unfortunately, Tim is showing narcissistic tendencies here and being aggressive toward Ben, being aggressive is all about domination and control, showing you are above someone, something that is never okay. Underhandedly threatening to fire Ben in that way is a clear cut example of this. Punishing Ben with overbearing criticism instead of just accepting his sincere apology and acknowledging his intentions is aggressive…. Tim L… this was a clear case of projection and narcissism from Tim.
@@wilsonsclips_ are you also mentally unwell?
Ben Avery stop going on all your alt accounts to defend yourself and attack Tim, I know its you because there are entire videos around this drama that got uploaded and deleted in last 4 hours, and I know this because I got replies from them that I can't no longer access since the video don't exist. Which means ben avery is absolutely making alt accounts and trying to upload BS to give this situation positive spin.
"Tim just had to slip that in when Ben apologized if he hurt his feelings "No, you didn't hurt my feelings. If you did, I would have fired and get rid of you"."
TIM had to slip that in?
BEN had to slip it in that "oh concede this, admit this, about the woman at the traffic stop" WHAT. Bro the second some no-name producer whose entire job is to press the record button tries to tell you that YOU need to do something FOR HIM you slap a 1st class shipping label on his forehead and you throw him out the door physically.
@@axos3130 It’s not Ben genius, it’s actually “Bent Pixels” which is the infamous RUclips management company that Rogan and Schaub use to copyright strike and scrub all negative videos of them online. I saw the message from Bent Pixels when I tried to go back to one of them. Can’t believe Tim uses them too, and is clearly trying to scrub these videos.
The funny part is Tim dissolving a relationship with his “best friend” over Stevewillfuckit. LOL.
That’s the bit.
Dolla dolla bills yall.... 🤠
Two narcissists who deserve each other
correction. over a fan.
It’s hilarious I don’t want to believe it’s real
@@hamiltonkeener9078 it’s not real
This is a reminder that no matter what you do and who you work for, your boss is not your friend. No matter how familiar you become over time they will pull rank on you the moment they think you are being the slightest bit insubordinate.
isn't hasan piker streaming right now, lil pinko comrade? lol
@DasGoodSoup you shouldn’t punch anyones eyes off their head because then you can’t use them as a reference
ya because other shows have people going around being toxic to their sponsors all the time right? maybe tim wants the show to be successful and maybe ben giving the show a bad rep to sponsors is like a no brainer that he shouldnt be doing it? like do you think joe rogan has to tell jamie not to do something so dumb? yet poor ben as hes literally tripling down on disrespecting a sponsor. i think bens ego is to easily hurt to be on a show like this. he should not even be visible tims literally soloing all the content all ben has to do is not fuck that up and yet somehow hes managing to try
@deadchannel bro what? You’ll clock your boss for talking to you like your boss? I can tell you’re not going far
Really dark, situational view being used as a blanket view on bosses. I’ve had shit bosses, and then amazing bosses. Don’t think one sidedly people. It’s not good for you
It went from Ben posted an "inside joke" on a friend's wall to "you attacked a business partner online." It went from you called out my bad behavior to you attacked me. My head is spinning - I think Ben really triggered Tim by calling him crazy...probably thinking about his mama.
I was, too, actually
I think once Tim sensed he got under Ben’s skin he decided to keep turning the screws for comedic effect. Usually Ben is fine with being the punching bag but I’m guessing there’s been stuff going on behind the scenes that led to this boiling over.
You sound like a typical woman afraid of men because of your past experiences. Do you get attacked much in your personal relationships?
It sucks when ppl think that being fat and gay gives them a right to be an asshole.
I was thinking the same. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree....
Ben was trying to change the subject so many times. Tim's 'act' is seeming less of an act and more his true personality. Pure narcissistic abuse.
Yeah ben is definitely a lame-form narcissist....glad we have a narcissistic sociopath from long island to pike up the screen
Dude purposely messes up toilets and just walks away.
YES
@@uppercutgrandma4425 doesn't he do the same with air bnbs. Clear cluster b behaviour
Seldom do you remember Tim is Gay until passive aggressive stuff like this.
Tim is all prepared for no nuts november. What a d bag
This was toxic femininity by Tim for sure!
Tim was actually describing himself when he said people lash out at those closest to them when they know they’re wrong. Good for Ben that he stood up for himself.
after 3 parts this doesnt sound like a bit at this point? being dragged out
@@CryptoTJ thats exactly how im feeling at this point. even tho he posted about leaving on IG it could still be a bit who knows lol
@@isaiahcorona6198 exactly....
Projecting is a coping mechanism by someone who isn’t ready to see how vast the mental illness is within their own psyche. Not sure Tim will ever see it though because no one ever sticks around long enough to get through to him. Then when they finally throw their hands up in exasperation Tim blames them not himself.
Tim sounds like he's gone mad
"All i tried to do is help" said every narcissist everrrr
said a little kid that thinks bens feelings are more important than running a successful business and show and doing anything to hurt the shows reputation especially with sponsors is like so dumb that your ego has to be huge that you think your tweet is more important than protecting the show. good bye ben show will be bigger than ever now that you are out the way thank you for making this easier and quicker than it could have been
your comment is literally every woman ever... lol
@@rocketrob9436 it’s ok Tim you can stop commenting now
@@luketanner736 rockets right tho... that tweet was obviously not a good idea... inside joke or not, do those jokes in private. theres a reason many jobs now demand their employees not use twitter or other social media platforms while working there, because the stuff you post can come back to hurt the companies reputation and image. like that one female police officer who kept making twerking videos on tik tok and lost her job because she was in uniform and on duty while making them.
tim is an asshole EVERYONE here should NOT be shocked by this... period. its tims entire appeal that he is a funny asshole who goes on huge insane rants in a funny way. ben's tweet might seem unimportant to you but to sponsors, potential sponsors and anyone who runs any sort of serious business would instantly know NOT to post that in public..
imagine you greet your friends in a weird or offensive way in private when you go out with the boys BUT you use that inside offensive joke greeting out in public while at work... its wildly inapproperate.
@@ninvusoogoar6098 oh the irony of this. Ben is followed by less than 50k people on Twitter, I don’t believe that tweet blew up or anything? So the only way for that tweet to damage the reputation of the company is if Tim does exactly what he did and makes a big deal about it. I’m sure 99% of the people listening had no clue Ben tweeted anything to Steve but now they do. And just for it to backfire on Tim making him look even worse for sponsors and fans. Guarantee Tim lost more revenue from this situation than any backlash from a relatively unknown podcast producer making an inside joke.
In all seriousness, Tim seems like a nightmare to work for. I’ve always been a huge fan, and watch all Tim’s videos the hour he puts them out. But you can tell Tim probably gets really angry when he doesn’t get his way.
You hit the nail on the head... he would be unbearable. I still enjoy his comedy though.
A full on ratio....tim?
Nice prof pic good sir
I mean 100% but that’s why he’s so funny lol
Tim has spoiled, only child vibes.
Tim was in the wrong, he’s comfortable bullying Ben which is why he’s disrespectful towards him. Tim’s head is getting too big now and that drug joke Ben made hurt Tim because it’s true. Tim should be grateful he managed to make money being an asshole or else he’d still be hitting the pipe.
He’s comfortable because that’s who he is. All these stories about how much he wants air bnb and waitresses to die are true😂
Yeah, this situation is recontextualizing some past rants for me haha
So cool and edgy and funny
8:45 is crossing the line. I get Tim's appeal is being an asshole, but damn. Who says that to their friend? Crazy.
Ben Avery said "you know I don't shine shoes no more"
Haha, exactly
Go home and get ur fckin shinebox ben
🗣️🤌JUST BUSTIN YO BALLS
😂😂
Good for you Ben!! Good on you for not backing down each way Tim came at you and tried to manipulate the conversation for his benefit and side.
I'm happy you stepped away, held your composure and acted like a man, kudos brother!
You're better off without this bullying. Good luck!
Now go get a shitty job somewhere with 10% of the pay!! Good job bro goodluck living
Ben doesn’t owe us an apology. He wasn’t vicious, disgusting, or anything else Tim accused him of.
Ben’s laughing it off because the alternative is to be truthful with Tim and actually lean in on Tim without the laughs.. Tim clearly won’t listen. His T ball illustration was demeaning and condescending. Ben doesn’t want to call out Tim because he sees how much Tim drones on and on after a basic comment about Tim’s funny/insane lashing out at people. Ben could have been much more bold about him, about how he just reiterated the same point on repeat for 30 minutes.
Tim's inability to take any correction turned into quiet, soft-spoken berating for 30 minutes. Tim crossed the line and Ben is out. Now the in-house reactor to Tim’s insanity is gone and the show will be a new show.
As someone who enjoyed the show, it was funny to see Ben's reaction to Tim's psychotic rants. We laughed with Ben, not with Tim. Ben's sanity is what we really connected with as viewers as we were entertained by Tim's insanity.
@steve well said
😂😂😂😂 wow
i like that tim’s a bad person, that being said i would never take the shit he gives ben. although for what ben was getting paid i probably would actually
@@xtg_ you are the type to get cheated on after dozens of red flags and cry out to God because he didn't warn you.
ya because any of that is a good idea when trying to build a successful show right? like sure ben go create a toxic reputation for us to sponsors that way we never grow. oh you dont like that i thought that was foolish? sorry but i dont think joe rogan has to tell jamie not to do something so dumb. if doing your job well is grounds for you to leave then see ya later.
I have experienced this type of bullying and it is never okay - I lost all respect for Tim after this
For sure. He’s one very very large insecure man child with unresolved problems hidden behind a comedic mask.
I Hate you as Much as I Hate Ben! Bunch of Whimps, Lucky to Be Wing-Men but taking it for completely for Granted! Disgusting!
@@StuartFuckingLittle if you didn’t realize this within 2 minutes of watching his show…. I feel bad for you. I guess you are enjoying the drama though? Maybe go watch the Kardashiansv
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This isn’t a bit. This is exactly who Tim is. A bitter, narcissistic queen who uses mind games to abuse the man who helped build his brand. This entire speech is how abusive partners treat their spouses. He’s actually a creep. 😂😂😂
It’s definitely not and anybody who thinks it’s all a bit is coping hard, but it was a liiiiittle funny (at his expense) that at this point Tim was trying to slip into bit-mode, to lighten the mood I guess? An “A” for effort that got the “F” overall
I mean yeah this has always been Tim but that’s why we love him. Once his personality starts being put upfront to someone else we care about, it becomes very apparent and we start getting defensive.
Dude, this is going over your head lol. We loved him because we thought they were bits. Much of it actually wasn't 🤦
Comedians in a nutshell
It's definitely not a big - agreed. That being said, I believe Tim does become super hyperbolic at various times during this argument because he'll be able to then say "It was a bit! And Ben can't take a joke!" It's a classic move by ässhöles. "I was just joking, relax!" But in its entirety, the argument taking place is not a bit.
Lmao “the way you attacked me was very jarring for people”
'you're so violent! why'd you come with violence Dan?'
Ben did attack him out of nowhere and right at the end of the podcast, which means ben prepared for this and thought about this for the entire day if not week. Imagine little ben just sitting there glowering. Lol funny little man.
@@axos3130 hey guys! We found Tim's burner!
@@bandjolyn lmfao my thoughts exactly
@@axos3130 You're replying to every comment on every video about Tim Dillon in the last 72hrs, this has to be Tim's burner😂😂
tim is fucked up dude. this is insane. I can't believe tim would ever do this to another human being. what a controlling sick fuck. I've experienced these kind of emotionally immature people in person many times, and this sends chills down my spine. good for ben for being the bigger person. I don't think I could've held it together as well as him.
Ur ghey
@Лошадь u dum
@Лошадь that’s a very diva thing to say
That Tim guy was a real jerk.
At least he finally freed himself from this wildly unprofessional and inappropriate producer. Can’t wait to see his growth after all this
I know the scriptures say judge not lest ye be judged...
Lol
Yea once he realized ben was getting married and will never offer his holes, he started second guessing the relationship.
Worst part was the hypocrisy
I always thought Tim being a POS to Ben was a bit for the show.
Same
@@conormcgregorwasnevermyfri1984 bits can only go on for so long until they start to get to you. When Tim said “if I was mad I’d just replace you” that’s a very manipulative, power hungry thing to say. I love Tim but I understand why Ben is choosing to step away
Not cool for generation offended.
He's out, he's gone, he's done, cancelled!!
@@ObeseCaligula nobody asked you boomer
I did to😂
Tim should just apologize to Ben, but we all know he won't do that.
Narcissists never do.
Bro oh my god Tim’s so sensitive. Dude makes fun of homeless people and is mad at Ben for making a joke about some millionaire from Florida. it seems like a bit but good for Ben for leaving
Be mad
@@2412LEIGH I think he’s hilarious but the fact that he’s this mad at Ben for nothing is just pitiful like you
Wait, that guy is a millionaire? Why does tim say this guy lost his livelyhood lol. Guy is still swimming in money apparently. So many lulz.
@@alitablackangell5770 coz it's a joke crazy I know 🙄
@@hamiltonkeener9078 it's funny that Ben doesn't know how to take a joke after all this time working with Tim
Tim’s lost his gay mind
So comedians DO get offended at other peoples jokes?? I’ll never listen to Tim again when he complains that other people get upset at his jokes and he justifies it as “just comedy ‘“
He’s trying to make comedy based off it. Also he has a point that the comment doesn’t at all look like a joke sense no one knew the inside joke side of it
It’s different. Tim’s famous. You wouldn’t understand. Waiters are there to serve and they’re not serving.
@@Usernam321 nah
Ben had enough of Tim shitting on him
Ben's wife was right all along
about what?
So far this has only helped Tim's business unlike Ben
@@preethamveeranna8319 tim has repeatedly joked about how bens wife hates him (Tim)
@@GeneralJiggle In what way? His recent youtube videos are 50/50 likes dislikes. His patreon episode was so heavily bashed that he deleted it. He also lost a pretty large chunk of patreon followers. Seems like a pretty big hit to me.
@@bsherf934 The dislikes are not publicly visible?
Ben’s “Fuck You!” Had a lot in it and I think a healthy segment of that was for Tim.
Timestamp? Im fuckin lazy tbh
@@mar.c1 3:59
When Avery laughed that was everyone else's cue to laugh, he made the show.
Ha I do not know about that
It was a little more funny when he laughed because it’s funny to see someone break.
Maybe there are a few people that don’t know when to laugh, but I hope it’s not a lot of people
I get what your saying. Tim says such crazy shit that when Ben laughed it cued us in to when it was a joke.
@@JVig77 fair point
You should watch The Big Bang Theory I think you'll love it
@@GrandmasterFerg that’s comedy
Not a good look for tim. He isn’t happy
Probably could have resolved it all if it weren't for the "I'd fire you" comment near the end. Hard to let an argument go when the other party casually brings up they're in control of your livelihood just to win.
This.
Ben honestly handled this better than most anybody would he showed a lot of patience
He bit
Ben needed to play along, he took it personal and made it weird
I'm starting to meditate now
“It hurts me more than it hurts you to do this, to correct you like this.” Prophetic words. Good luck, Tim.
Damn. Nice angle.
Tim can finally lower his guard and come out of his shell now that he’s free of his attacker. Can’t wait for the creative tsunami that comes from his new found freedom
🤣 😂 🤣 😂
Yea I’m sure Ben will KILL 🤦🏻♂️😂
I agree. Well said.
Is this a troll? Do you mean that seriously?
@@FlashNorton lol
This is exactly how it works with manipulative people. They do something wrong, then blame it on you, and then demand an apology before anything can continue. Then don’t accept the apology. And then if the person happens to be a loved one/ parent they insist that you must not love or care for them because of how badly you treat them 😒
Narcissists can’t stand someone who sees through the mask, calls out their bs and stands up for themselves. It wouldn’t shock me if Tim actually fired Ben the moment he realised he’d lost his grip and probably couldn’t manipulate or control him after this
"if you really hurt my feelings I would just fire you and get another person"
Bet that's what did it
I remember on Whitney Cumming's podcast Tim said he would stop doing the show if Ben left...
Tim snapped for 18 min because Ben suggested rolling down your window to scream at other fat people may not be the best behavior lol
The only thing that made this work was that deep down, we thought Tim was a good guy with real affection for Ben.
It reminds me of the exact relationship I have with my boss. We both care about each other and will vouch for one another, but our relationship is always on thin ice because of his harshness and mood swings. It feels like one day I will just leave, and I think Ben is basically at that point.
Tim is a good guy. His behavior is narcissistic though, so his values hierarchy & internal emotional intelligence development are child-like.
Doesn’t make him bad, just child-like. Not a great boss.
@@elektrotehnik94 Tim fucks up once and everyone thinks they're psychologist..... people are already calling him a groomer.......... Tim is in the wrong here. but their is more to this story. it looks like things might have added to get to this point.... Tim is being very hypocritical here since he's always dancing on graves.... but his behavior is weird..... he completely attacked Ben here. it's always. joke but this time wasn't (maybe).
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo who tf called him a groomer??
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo I have not seen a single comment calling him a groomer. It's obvious Tim is a Narcissist. Anyone watching the podcast knew that and it's part of the reason it was so funny. Airing this rant on the live podcast gives you an idea that it was probably happening off camera too. Which is completely unnecceptable if true.
It was definitely the "if you offended me id fire you." Line from Tim that reverberated in Ben's head for weeks. Up until Ben realized the reverse of this cat and mouse game was true. Meaning, if Ben leaves, there's no show.
This is truly devastating for the audience, myself included. I wish Tim and Ben the best and hope they move on with no hard feelings.
Ohhhhh myyyyyy goddddd if Ben leaves there’s no show? Dude, Tim could build from scratch ten more times without anyone even thinking about Ben.
“Truly devastating”
Literally nobody cares except some gossiping drama queens in the comment sections hahaha
The fact that you think Tim and Ben are on the same level and were equal parts in the show is truly sad. And you definitely haven’t watched the show long enough. If you did you’d already know Tim will be fine. Go watch the Ben Avery Show I bet it’ll be hilarious……
You were wrong btw
Hook line and sinker with that one. Tim's narcissism hulked out like a cold sore breakout in this one. No hiding it. This is like if someone was intentionally trying to demonstrate what arguing with a grandiose narcissist looks like and deliberately tried to show every symptom of the illness. And that line about firing him was the closer. "If you were to stop amusing me, I'd discard you." Which of course, was a bluff, because narcissists don't actually want to lose their supply, but they do love to threaten with abandonment since it's something they themselves fear so much. According to Tim, he offered him more money but Ben was done.
@@amellowblue you people keep throwing around the word narcissist like a buzzword I swear, RUclips psychology is crap.
Tim knows exactly what he’s doing. Getting quieter and calmer because he’s getting more and more satisfaction from seeing Ben’s hurt and irritation.
And Ben should have taken it to make us laugh. I'm not laughing when Ben's getting defensive and getting all serious when Tim is still half-way joking. Ruined my entertainment
Correct. This was all manipulation and goal post moving from Tim
Yes abusers do this all the time. Antagonize you then watch you break down and call you crazy.
Wow I always thought Tim was just joking when he insulted Ben because this is how he usually speaks but now everything is clear and I'm truly disappointed. I'm not going to support Tim anymore, this is disgusting, I'm unsubscribing from yt and patreon
Please actually unsubscribe from patreon though!
That’s his bread and butter
Tim will be fine in the end but he should feel some kind of financial sting since he’s so obsessed with money
Please do it!
Go watch The Ben Avery Show, nerds.
is tim drinkiing again?
Tim has literally become an arrogant upper class freak that has to constantly display the need for respect. i used to love this podcast but i never knew this attitude was real i thought it was a front or something. real bummer.
@@noah8402 Completely agree, he has become just like the out of touch elitist types that he used to make fun of.
“If you really hurt my feelings I’d fire you and get someone else” remember when they were recording podcasts in BENS HOUSE what a snake man. No joke Tim broke my heart with this shit.
8:45 Is the exact moment. You can actually feel and hear Bens eyes glaze over.
Dude fr.
That was rough.
Especially when Tim has talked about how he and Ben built what Tim has together
If this is how Tim treats Ben on his show, imagine what he’s like behind the scenes. This feels like the needle that broke the camels back. Good for Ben and very bad for Tim.
you mean straw?? 🤣🤣
@@RamonesFan201 no the last needle that broke the addicts back
When Ben said this is at the bottom of the list...i cant imagine what how much worse it was off camera
Having grown up with an irrational and manipulative narcissist, this is kind of uncomfortable to listen to. Cross the like of being a “bit”. I suppose that’s part of what makes Tim so good at what he does, though…
Can’t wait to see what Ben is up to!
doesnt sound like you have grown up though? adults know better than to attack their own shows sponsor and create a bad reputation for brands that would be willing to work with you in the future. see you are a child so you see it like ah poor ben he was a meany. but an adult would go poor tim bens trying to fuck with the $how
@@rocketrob9436 Does that A stand for asshole?
I feel you had the same..
8:45 … I think out of this whole argument this is where ben decided is was over for him, Tim usually jokes about how expendable Ben is but seemed to actually mean it there
it's a weird thing to say to someone even as a joke
That's exactly when it crossed the line....Tim was definitely punching down and throwing the Boss over friendship thing in his face.
The whole premise of “Ben attacking Tim” was Tim literally said “can you think of a time I’ve ever acted like you did?” What a POS. Now Tim can’t use the narcissist thing as a bit because we’ll think it’s real.
he really drove that point home too. i wish ben would’ve remembered tim was the one who asked him to bring that point up
ya because other shows have people going around being toxic to their sponsors all the time right? maybe tim wants the show to be successful and maybe ben giving the show a bad rep to sponsors is like a no brainer that he shouldnt be doing it? like do you think joe rogan has to tell jamie not to do something so dumb? yet poor ben as hes literally tripling down on disrespecting a sponsor. i think bens ego is to easily hurt to be on a show like this. he should not even be visible tims literally soloing all the content all ben has to do is not fuck that up and yet somehow hes managing to try
@@rocketrob9436 get a fucking life bro. You respond to EVERY comment with the same point.
I've scrolled through the comments of all three of these videos and you're the first person I've seen to point this out. Tim asked for an example and Ben gave him the first thing that came to mind. There was no "attack". There was no being "toxic" or "disrespectful" to a sponsor. Tim is a fucking control-freak lunatic. He is delusional. And the bots or simps or whatever the fuck they are like the clown above me that keep trying to justify this sick behavior are absolute cretins.
It's not a bit tho..it is real lol Tim is a textbook narcissist
I feel like I just heard my parents arguing in the other room and now their telling me they are getting a divorce:(
*they're
Time to throw Mom in a home!
My favorite part of their show was the nice interactions. No Tim Dillion show without Ben Avery. He deserves better
Don’t worry Tim finally realized he deserves better and will have no prob finding a more professional and talented producer in days. The abuse is finally over. Can’t wait to see Tim’s creative growth from this
@@KickBackMIA thank god, and all this while tims mom is in the hospital. Its disgusting praying for tim
@@Jeter23 I honestly can’t tell which comments are supposed to be jokes and which are reality
@@liljes34 that was a joke anyone defending Tim is pretty much joking and I guess theres alot of people actually mad at Tim for taking his bit too far (even tho thats kinda his whole gig)
@@Jeter23 You think this whole thing is a bit? I don't think Ben could act that well
This was...uncomfortable. I think we've all had conversations like this with people. A shame this had to be public (even though it really didn't need to be, but for the sake of disclosure I'm glad it was, I guess?).
Why did they even post this?
It’s not funny… it dosen’t add anything good to the episode
ben uploaded it which was way beyond the line. That's like if tim secretly recorded ben and then uploaded it. hell, tim should do that, just randomly come after ben for no reason with all this dirt on him, then record it, then upload it. too late now, but should've done that. ben avery is a coward and a scumbag, hope he gets dystentry in nebraska or wherever the f he's from and going back to lol
It is crazy that they posted it, the very fact it was posted says something. This is all just sad.
Ben’s the editor, I bet he posted it knowing he’s leaving. I think he decided by 7:48 😮
@@Bllakez yep absolutely
The appeal of Tim’s comedy is that we all thought he pretended to be a sociopath and to shit on Ben but yet deep down he was a decent guy, yet it feels like maybe it’s never been an act or is no longer an act. Well done to Ben for getting out. Toxic friendships are never good, particularly at work.
A master class in gaslighting...
This is honestly disturbing
Ben was 50% of the fun of the "Tim Dillon Show." Everyone has a line and Tim crossed it, hopefully in time Ben and Tim can still be friends; but what hurt Ben the most was that he thought Tim was his real friend and not just someone who is paid to hang out with him. On the Bonus episode 167 that was then deleted Tim said " all I can do is give you money, I can't fix problems any other way." I'm sure a simple I'm sorry would've went much further with Ben than here's a bunch of money stay. Then the part where Ben said"I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings man," and Tim's response was "No you didn't hurt my feelings, if you hurt my feelings I would just fire you and get someone else." Tim saw Ben as expendable when Ben is 50% of the fun, plus you don't treat friends as expendable if they are really your friends. I think that hurt Ben the most, he thought they were real friends and Tim I guess doesn't know how to treat real friends. Plus Tim was saying he didn't want to talk about the post Ben made on air yet he did it anyway, he should have just not done it at all if he really didn't want to talk about it.
Tim is an insecure guy, hiding behind a mask of false confidence and self belief. It's a shame Tim can't do some work on himself and get back in touch with reality and his feelings. Ben is a more emotionally healthy person. Tim is currently not.
Ben really ain’t all that you guys are weird af
Ben needed Tim, don’t believe me? Let’s see how well Ben does on his own.
@@grungepants Fat people, insecure? Noooo, impossible
@@ETAisNOW I might be wrong; you might cherish money/ fame/ work more highly than we do.
I/ “we” cherish devoted friendships very highly. Tim; seemingly he does not (as highly as I/ “we” do).
Just a difference of our value hierarchy at this point in our life, that’s all ❤
@@elektrotehnik94 You just assumed a bunch of random crap to make yourself feel all virtuous on your moral high ground, ooo you must feel nice and cozy. Did you hold your little pinky up as you typed it out? Maybe smell some wine halfway through your little scripture?
FYI your heavy use of adjectives and over/misuse of punctuation only makes you look smart to the ignorant. In reality it screams “Please accept me as a smart and wise person, I’m desperate for unearned external approval because I’m unhappy with myself but too emotionally lazy to do anything about it on my own!”
See? I can be a RUclips psychologist and judge people too.
8:45
That’s cold man, after being friends for so long
Half an hour of this towards Ben. I'd of quit on air. Ben has incredible self control
RIP to a great podcast 🪦
Tim power tripping. I’m a fan of his comedy but his life will likely end a classic lonely od🤷🏽♂️
This reminds me of a crazy ex I once had. She'd go off the rails about something, I'd mention maybe going off the rails about it wasn't useful to us sorting it out, then the next two hours would be us going back forth about how she went about it and how it's bad to point it out.
Tim F ed up. Ben was a good guy. He needs people who can trust.
Tim is terrified of Ben taking his fame away from him. “Innocent people rarely lash out” is so accurate. Tim can’t stop lashing out and grasping at whatever he can latch onto.
I'm glad dude told him what's up
40minutes of Tim Dillon being manipulative by repeating bens “mistake” while regularly saying the most horrific thing
Attacks you with vicious insult after provocation after insult with zero self control for several minutes straight and the second you retaliate once, flips the board and calls you rude and insulting 😀 What a spectacular piece of shit
wasnt a mistake, ben fucked up and was also in the wrong. both him and tim are not innocent in this situation at all.
@@ninvusoogoar6098 So your a narc too huh?
@@ninvusoogoar6098 or just incredibly emotionally inept?
@@StuartFuckingLittle not at all, unlike most of you i dont let my emotions run how i think. theres a reason why the government/police/private companies are starting to force their employees off of social media like twitter/tik tok unless its part of their jobs... everything you do reflects your job/company/brand, what ben did does not look good to other sponsors and NO it does not matter that it was an inside joke for people wouldnt know that from reading it.
also if you are going to toss around the word narc like how people toss around woke or SJW or racist at least actually understand what a real one is like...
it is also why my employees are not allowed to use social media while employed with my company. people do dumb shit on social media or worse say shit that ends up getting their employers catch heat for.
the police are doing it for many reasons like that one female cop who was making twerking tik toks while on patrol, on duty in her uniform and refused to stop doing it.
If you have someone like this in your life, do what Ben did. It's actually not that hard.
I still love Tim, but he literally spent the last third of the podcast gas-lighting Ben to hell lol
Lol
at a certain point he just doubled down for entertainment and i appreciate it
That the point where I stop liking someone anymore, let alone love them, that’s the point where my view of Tim changed, and I’m pretty sure most people can say the same, especially those who have experienced this kind of abuse firsthand.
"all I try to do his help" is verbatim what the dude at the shop I work for says, the dude that every single person that works there hates
Listen to how comfortable Tim is with his leverage and how entitled he is to getting his ego stroked by harping on Ben "apologizing to the audience"
I wish him well.
I'm not saying this to Ben I'm saying this to Tim because he just shot himself in the foot.
Tim brought chaotic comedy but Ben brought a lot of heart.
“Full package of horror” Ben should put that on his resume that sounds like a qualification if I ever heard one
"I will just replace you"... Yikes, good that the dude left this freak.
I think Tim wanted to sever ties with Ben for what ever reason, he kept intentionally triggering Ben by repeating "I didn't wanna bring it up" several times throughout the end imo to get a bigger reaction out of Ben so he could brush off the backlash from losing Ben as 'well I tried to have a talk with him but he went off, can't work with someone like that etc' but credit to Ben for his savage reply "the people giving the intervention need to be sober"
Tim you've lost your closest friend and a fan but you know. I wish you well
#TeamBen
Lets all shed a tear for stevewilldoit. How will he ever live on his millions of dollars in savings?
The gaslighting is crazy
Tim was really out of line w/ Ben. If this is why Ben left, I don't blame him. The show hasn't been the same w/o him.
I'm very late to this, but it's so great to see Ben handling a narcissist like this.
I watched all three videos, and i can see what Tim was trying to do. Tim saw one of his sponsors be in a vulnerable position, and with Ben’s inside joke, he sqw where there could be potential trouble. However, i think Tim,(possibly), made a mistake that theres no coming back from. I think Tim tried doing one of his comical rants that he does, do a bit of damage control, but i think he tried over-deliver his point so he wouldnt loose a sponsor, and ended up loosing Ben instead. One, i think this was a conversation that should have been had off-air. Two, if youve ever seen Tim in the JRE, or in any other podcast for that matter, hes made it pretty clear that jokes are jokes. They shouldnt be taken seriously. He then proceeded to take Bens joke seriously. An *inside* joke. I think they should have just addressed it as an inside joke, maybe issue a small apology, and left it at that. Instead, he tried to clear the situation, and i think he only made it worse. Forget what this situation is about, what bugs me is the way he tries to tell ppl that jokes are just jokes, criticizes those who kneel to the sponsors, and it now seems like hes doing just that.
Yeah but Ben said it was his bad and apologized right away. He understood what tim was saying when talking about potentially hurting a sponsor. But tim was just circling it like a shark and wouldnt stop and tried to keep driving ben in the dirt. It could have easily ended when Ben said he was sorry and that it was his bad.
A sponsor with no more means to actually sponsor 😂
u put that well about instead of losing the one lost the other
an inside joke would be sent in a private message. not publicly the day your sponsor is like dealing with something huge. maybe tim wants the show to be successful and maybe ben giving the show a bad rep to sponsors is like a no brainer that he shouldnt be doing it? like do you think joe rogan has to tell jamie not to do something so dumb? yet poor ben as hes literally tripling down on disrespecting a sponsor. i think bens ego is too easily hurt to be on a show like this. he should not even be visible tims literally soloing all the content all ben has to do is not fuck that up and yet somehow hes managing to try
@@rocketrob9436 thank you. People are acting like the show is called Tim and Ben’s Podcast. It’s the fkng Tim Dillon Show. Ben’s job was to look 💩 up and get ribbed by a comedian. Basically a dream gig that Ben gave up because of his fragile little ego. If you think any of this is “abuse” then y’all are literally the softest people walking the 🌎🤦🏻♂️😂
Man I thought Tim was joking with this shit man they were a comedy duo in my opinion
I think a lot of us have been around a person like Tim. Got to get people like him out of your life.
The fact that Noone in tims life has struck around, even given his massive success, speaks volumes.
This sounds like it's coming from a tremendous amount of jealousy, like he's been thirsting for revenge.
The gaslighting is so next level 😂
Full package ben avery he will be missed
Tim went full Livia Soprano on this one
I remember this being a super awkward moment. I hope the best for Ben.
You don't lash out like this unless you are miserable in life. I hope Tim can find happiness, I don't think he will survive for long with this much hate in his heart.
Love you Ben. You’re an actual man.
Wow. Ben has the balls to apologize to just Tim and hurting his feelings and Tim cant accept it lol.
Tim’s biggest problem here is that he’s taking out his self-admitted (and self-capitalized-upon) anger issues on his best friend, provoking Ben in a passive aggressive way for way too long, and assuming that he has the right to condescend to & “correct” another human being- let alone Ben- for doing something that he disagrees with comedically.
that gay energy was a time bomb with Ben ! I guess the bomb finally exploted!!!
Wow. This broke my heart.
08:38 a genuine apology was given, and instead of just taking it and saying thank you, what you say when you accept an apology, Tim came back with something that I'm sure stuck in Ben's mind, because they're not joking, they're being serious; *you're replaceable.* I wouldn't be surprised if this moved Ben to quit, saying he was no longer satisfied with the job. Tim offered him more money because he didn't _really_ want him going anywhere, he was just insensitive beyond reason here. I'm sure Ben was already not happy at his work, but this would just put him over the edge to leaving, easy.
Here's a very original take that NO ONE has ever said: how you treat service workers is a good representative of the type of person you are
When Ben asked who Tim is angry at, I immediately thought: "himself"
When you get done here, go back and rewatch part one. Tim is a lunatic
Link.?
@@smoothcat1556 it’s on this same channel just click the name
Great advice, thank you