Definitely an interesting review. I agree with most of it, but for what I want to do, the data-logging from the ECU is precisely what I want. Horses for courses, as the saying goes. I do wish the Aim device had a phone interface (or a more generic web-interface or something like that), to avoid having a WIndows laptop to access it (I have been using Linux on my computers at work and at home for most of the past 10 years).
Thanks for making this video👍, Just got my self a brand new VBOX for $320 shipping and all, I never thought that I was going to spend this much on an item like this and after finding out when this VBOX came out I thought I made a mistake, I don't think I research enough when I made the purchase cause I saw the websites with $500-$650 per VBOX I was like I'll wait not knowing it came out years ago, you making this video made me so happy that indeed I made a good investment and choice and got a good deal on the VBOX.
My reaction when you dropped this video was “YES!!!”. Great info for the hooligan community lol. This is the best channel for pure real world performance testing on youtube. Bar none.
The VBox is the best all around. That's why Motortrend and Car&Driver use them. The Dragy is great for straight line racers and since it's cheaper it's a great value.
Dragy is nothing like a dyno. It does not measure HP or Torque. What it measures is speed, height, and elevation. It also has a visual graph of data that is a representation of the three while showing numeric values of distance and speed in time.
I think that everyone should have a Dragy. Great tool and honestly, better than going to a dyno. I rather know what a certain mod or tune gives me in real life versus numbers on a dyno.
I’m taking the draggy. It just seems like more people use it and these things are already kinda looked down upon on compared to real world results at a dragstrip
I use Harry's Lap Timer but you're right, it's okay to get an idea of how fast you are, but if you're serious, you should get a real GPS timer. But I hear you can just hook up a Bluetooth GPS receiver and it'll be reliable.
Watching now. I can tell you this, Dragy is within .01s of accuracy confirmed by multiple runs; same location, same elevation, same temp, DA, etc. And four back to back runs logging the same exact 60-130mph time were only different by a marginal slope percent. And all four runs were within 14 inches of distance traveled. Dragy is damn accurate!! The only issue I have with Dragy is that it should have user selected voice notification. If I am doing a 60-130 Dragy pull, I want the voice to say 30 for my roll on, 50 to keep throttle pinned, 60 to start the time, and I want to hear 70, 80, 90, 100, and finalize with 130. There is no user selected voice notification. As simple as the Dragy is, it is small, accurate, and a useful tool for logging performance data. Battery life could be a bit better.
I was waiting for this video, never popped up in my subscription feed (and I am subscribed). Thanks for putting this together, bummer that the AIM Solo 2 isn't great, I really wanted to get one. I may have to wait until the VBOX gets that facelift.
Strange that sometimes the notifications don't pop up in the feed. Solo 2 is great if you want to exclusively use it as a lap timer. But yes, VBOX has proven itself to be a better all around tool. They told me that they should be refreshing the PerformanceBox with Touch technology in the beginning of 2020.
Subscribed. Great review. I have both PerformanceBox and VBox Sport..PerformanceBox just as long as you. Have tried G-Tech Pro RR (2010) also.. not a fan of that device (it was very buggy for me). Have been thinking about buying the "Dragy" for a while, but "lock-in" to an app.. no possibility to log data is a *big* no-no! Come on Dragy! And it is not easy to see who is responsible for this product. Look like some business guys exploiting some good techies producing/programming a good product somewhere in a "low-salary" region. Hope I am wrong, as the device looks good. Is affordable and easy to use on a bike (not that I have any problem with Racelogics products) :)
@TL1000S97 Thank you! I haven’t tried the G-Tech, but I’m curious about it. Seems like a good value/bang for buck and it looks cooler than the VBOX as well. I’ve reached out to Racelogic a few times and they said they’re developing a new PerformanceBox with Touch function and that they would send me one, but I haven’t heard from this since this whole pandemic thing started. The Dragy is great for those who just want a quick and easily solution that’s more casual. I use both in conjunction, to view the times quickly while doing the runs and then later I use the VBOX to do deep analysis of the data. You’re totally right though, Dragy is a business in America outsourcing the programming and tech to China. I still find it odd that the Dragy is more accurate with standing metrics than the VBOX at a physical dragstrip. Maybe I need a new VBOX.
А мы в этом видео - ruclips.net/video/2qcsOhCwMDo/видео.html сравнили два самых популярных прибора для замера динамики автомобиля Dragy GPS Performance Box и Racelogic VBOX Sport. Разобрались чем они отличаются друг от друга, сделали небольшой обзор каждого из устройств и проверили эти приборы на нашем тестовом Porsche 911 Carrera GTS. Какой GPS трекер показывает самые точные результаты в разгоне 0-100 км/ч, 100-200 км/ч, 0-200 км/ч, 1/8 мили и 1/4 мили - ответы по ссылке 😉
Great video I was definitely curious about these products. I used the C43 track pace at track and it was dead on with times ran. My initial idea was to buy a dragy but after track pace worked dead on that was good enough
RaceLogic Sport is a great tool and 20Hz is perfect. I think I need to retire my VBOX soon and get the new Touch. RaceLogic mentioned they are working on a P-Box replacement, so maybe I'll look into that as well.
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy dragy is only 10 hz and not 20 hz so therefore it is not so accurate as VBOX. Those people who have VBOX know that it is more accurate.
Here we go! It’s pretty hard for a machine to measure speed, g force and inertia, all kinds of accelerations, so it’s pretty cool how they work Shit these things are expensive The new AMGs like the CLS 53 have this technology built into the car. Even lap times. It maps out the track with a few warm up laps and maps out a full lap. Also times your 0-whatever speed you set, or whatever speed you set-200, etc. All AMGs and new BMWs have G force meters too, with measuring ticks like trans temp, oil temp, boost, torque, power, and power distribution, also steering angle, which is very nice, oh, and battery voltage. Your wife is cool for letting you use her Mazda It’s cool how all of those have such accuracy near each other Yeah return that shit 2 hours of battery life, that’s not very good lmao VBOX is such a good product and has been for a long long time Nice vid. Enjoyed your commentary as usual Lol cute doggo
Yeah the VBOX and the AIM Solo are not cheap. But if you are serious about performance and track days, then it's a necessary evil. The Dragy is great for people who just want something easy though. I'm not sure how the in-car performance information works but I'm guessing most of the data works off built in meters and as well as pulling information from the ECU. I wouldn't be surprised if they also used a GPS receiver inside the car to cross reference that data as well before it displayed it. We both acknowledge how much we hate the Mazda so we're getting every dollar we can out of it by beating the shit out of it lol. 2 hours of battery life is trash. Most people spend at least 6 hours at the track and if that thing is going to die on me before lunch, it's a pile of shit. Thanks buddy, I don't do these kind of vids too often, but I can see why. Interest is pretty low on videos like this. Catch you on the next one man.
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Guys, the draggy CAN VE PLUGGED IN FOR A CONTINUOUS RUN TIME battery life is irrelevant if your at the track. You just plug your equipment in
It does take a little longer than the other two units to connect to satellites in my experience, also more sensitive in conditions where there is overhead obstacles.
Dragy is great but it looks like they have stopped developing/supporting it as there hasn't been a software update in quite sometime, and it's not like the software (android) doesn't have bugs. @Track day TV, have you looked at the P-GEAR performance meter, looks like their new version is with a 20hz gps (P-Gear P520), it also uses a mobile phone app and does track times.
That's pretty disappointing to hear. It was a great platform and had so much potential. I'll have to check out this P-Gear. Haven't heard of it before. I'm trying to find information about it but it seems pretty limited. I see a P600 on Amazon?
Hope I'm wrong about the dragy, and they are just taking their time. The P600 is the 10Hz version, here is their facebook page, might help you get more info : facebook.com/pgeartaiwan/ . Looks like for Europe etc. the model 20hz model is named p610 .
@Track Day - Dragy got awful reviews on Amazon mostly for charging/functionality purposes. Have you (or anyone here) had similar negative experiences? Is the charging micro USB port fail quickly (think of old Samsung phones)? TIA
@kiiiburn I’ve been experiencing the charge-holding capabilities starting to deteriorate pretty quickly. I’m still on my first Dragy, however, I’m noticing that it either doesn’t hold a charge anymore or the battery just dies suddenly without much use. I also know someone who is on their second Dragy in a year now because of that similar issue. I think longevity comes down to pure luck, but I’ve been testing a lot of new dataloggers recently and I’ll be following up on this datalogger conversation soon. I will say that Dragy still provides the best bang for buck and ease of use. Nothing else on the market is comparable at this price point.
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Definitely interested in more data logging content. I'll pick up the dragy at a very reasonable price for now. It can't it be all that hard to open it and replace the cheap battery right?
I guess I should've clarified this one. On the actual display, it is only tenths of a second but in the Racelogic software, it's hundredths. But on the AIM Solo, it's thousandths in the software and at least hundredths in the display.
PDR is a great tool. If that is your only car that you want to get lap info and performance data on, then there's likely no need. But if you have cars that don't have PDR and want to get info on, it's helpful to have a tool that can be transferred easily.
@@MODIT When you connect the Dragy and open the app, before you do any runs, next to the report button, there is a little plus symbol. Press that, it'll bring up a tab for Custom Mode and in that custom mode, you can add whatever custom metric you want.
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Your car reviews are A+ but I love the occasional change up. It's refreshing and cool to see the equipment that helps create the channel!
Such a professional and terrific review 👍👍👍 thanks!
It is nice to have a change. The comparison is thorough. Your video helps car owners save money.
Definitely an interesting review. I agree with most of it, but for what I want to do, the data-logging from the ECU is precisely what I want. Horses for courses, as the saying goes.
I do wish the Aim device had a phone interface (or a more generic web-interface or something like that), to avoid having a WIndows laptop to access it (I have been using Linux on my computers at work and at home for most of the past 10 years).
Thanks for making this video👍, Just got my self a brand new VBOX for $320 shipping and all, I never thought that I was going to spend this much on an item like this and after finding out when this VBOX came out I thought I made a mistake, I don't think I research enough when I made the purchase cause I saw the websites with $500-$650 per VBOX I was like I'll wait not knowing it came out years ago, you making this video made me so happy that indeed I made a good investment and choice and got a good deal on the VBOX.
My reaction when you dropped this video was “YES!!!”. Great info for the hooligan community lol. This is the best channel for pure real world performance testing on youtube. Bar none.
Thanks I have the Vbox and just got a draggy
The VBox is the best all around. That's why Motortrend and Car&Driver use them. The Dragy is great for straight line racers and since it's cheaper it's a great value.
Great comparison. I think that every car enthusiast should own a Dragy, its like having a real world dyno in your pocket.
Dragy is nothing like a dyno. It does not measure HP or Torque. What it measures is speed, height, and elevation. It also has a visual graph of data that is a representation of the three while showing numeric values of distance and speed in time.
It’s like having a virtual ticket to a virtual Dragstrip with your own car 👌😁
Just ordered my dragy. It will be here Wednesday. Keep on the lookout for my built mini on the leader board!
This was a good idea for a video. Enjoying it so far. I think I might look into a dragy for around town data logging.
I think that everyone should have a Dragy. Great tool and honestly, better than going to a dyno. I rather know what a certain mod or tune gives me in real life versus numbers on a dyno.
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy agreed sir.
Its pretty awesome to see how this works behind the scenes. Keep up the good work!
Love all your vids! I hope you stick with it, you deserve more subs!
Excellent work! High level, some of the best I’ve seen. Appreciate you!
I’m taking the draggy. It just seems like more people use it and these things are already kinda looked down upon on compared to real world results at a dragstrip
Great video, still don't understand why you're videos don't have more views.
Your videos are awesome,outstanding work 👍
Will be getting a draggy soon! Awesome video
I got the Vbox and i’m fully satisfied.
When using VBOX to measure acceleration time, do you generally enable One Foot Rollout?
Awesome review, thanks a lot👍🏼
Awesome review i have the Dragy and it works awesome
Extremely clean vid
I use Harry's Lap Timer but you're right, it's okay to get an idea of how fast you are, but if you're serious, you should get a real GPS timer. But I hear you can just hook up a Bluetooth GPS receiver and it'll be reliable.
Nice job really enjoyed your videos
Great coloring too.
Man serious and to the point.
Love your stuff man! Big fan : ) Subscriber 4 life
Watching now. I can tell you this, Dragy is within .01s of accuracy confirmed by multiple runs; same location, same elevation, same temp, DA, etc. And four back to back runs logging the same exact 60-130mph time were only different by a marginal slope percent. And all four runs were within 14 inches of distance traveled. Dragy is damn accurate!! The only issue I have with Dragy is that it should have user selected voice notification. If I am doing a 60-130 Dragy pull, I want the voice to say 30 for my roll on, 50 to keep throttle pinned, 60 to start the time, and I want to hear 70, 80, 90, 100, and finalize with 130. There is no user selected voice notification. As simple as the Dragy is, it is small, accurate, and a useful tool for logging performance data. Battery life could be a bit better.
I was waiting for this video, never popped up in my subscription feed (and I am subscribed). Thanks for putting this together, bummer that the AIM Solo 2 isn't great, I really wanted to get one. I may have to wait until the VBOX gets that facelift.
Strange that sometimes the notifications don't pop up in the feed. Solo 2 is great if you want to exclusively use it as a lap timer. But yes, VBOX has proven itself to be a better all around tool. They told me that they should be refreshing the PerformanceBox with Touch technology in the beginning of 2020.
Subscribed. Great review. I have both PerformanceBox and VBox Sport..PerformanceBox just as long as you.
Have tried G-Tech Pro RR (2010) also.. not a fan of that device (it was very buggy for me).
Have been thinking about buying the "Dragy" for a while, but "lock-in" to an app.. no possibility to log data is a *big* no-no! Come on Dragy!
And it is not easy to see who is responsible for this product. Look like some business guys exploiting some good techies producing/programming a good product somewhere in a "low-salary" region.
Hope I am wrong, as the device looks good. Is affordable and easy to use on a bike (not that I have any problem with Racelogics products) :)
@TL1000S97 Thank you! I haven’t tried the G-Tech, but I’m curious about it. Seems like a good value/bang for buck and it looks cooler than the VBOX as well. I’ve reached out to Racelogic a few times and they said they’re developing a new PerformanceBox with Touch function and that they would send me one, but I haven’t heard from this since this whole pandemic thing started. The Dragy is great for those who just want a quick and easily solution that’s more casual. I use both in conjunction, to view the times quickly while doing the runs and then later I use the VBOX to do deep analysis of the data. You’re totally right though, Dragy is a business in America outsourcing the programming and tech to China. I still find it odd that the Dragy is more accurate with standing metrics than the VBOX at a physical dragstrip. Maybe I need a new VBOX.
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy
A whole 10 minute video on these 3 testing equipment and you couldn't even mention whether or not they use 1 foot roll out? Smh.
Thanks for the detailed review, now i know not to spend that $700. Also your doberman! 😍😂
А мы в этом видео - ruclips.net/video/2qcsOhCwMDo/видео.html сравнили два самых популярных прибора для замера динамики автомобиля Dragy GPS Performance Box и Racelogic VBOX Sport. Разобрались чем они отличаются друг от друга, сделали небольшой обзор каждого из устройств и проверили эти приборы на нашем тестовом Porsche 911 Carrera GTS. Какой GPS трекер показывает самые точные результаты в разгоне 0-100 км/ч, 100-200 км/ч, 0-200 км/ч, 1/8 мили и 1/4 мили - ответы по ссылке 😉
Great job and great dog!
Hey. Great review. I have both vbox and dragy and they're within a hundreds or two of each other on my 100-200 kph runs. Amazing.
Good comparison.
Good stuff. Love my dragy. Just hate the damn JB4 ad they force on you.
Great video I was definitely curious about these products. I used the C43 track pace at track and it was dead on with times ran. My initial idea was to buy a dragy but after track pace worked dead on that was good enough
Dang that dolly move.
Nice review. I am using Racelogic VBOX Sport - 20Hz for measuring acceleration.
RaceLogic Sport is a great tool and 20Hz is perfect. I think I need to retire my VBOX soon and get the new Touch. RaceLogic mentioned they are working on a P-Box replacement, so maybe I'll look into that as well.
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy dragy is only 10 hz and not 20 hz so therefore it is not so accurate as VBOX. Those people who have VBOX know that it is more accurate.
A 10 Hz unit can analyze a motion with precision 0.1s. So where is the 0.01s coming from? Is it just random?
Aim is deffo a more in depth track analysis etc, see the others as a "novelty" pub talk item.
Here we go!
It’s pretty hard for a machine to measure speed, g force and inertia, all kinds of accelerations, so it’s pretty cool how they work
Shit these things are expensive
The new AMGs like the CLS 53 have this technology built into the car. Even lap times. It maps out the track with a few warm up laps and maps out a full lap. Also times your 0-whatever speed you set, or whatever speed you set-200, etc. All AMGs and new BMWs have G force meters too, with measuring ticks like trans temp, oil temp, boost, torque, power, and power distribution, also steering angle, which is very nice, oh, and battery voltage.
Your wife is cool for letting you use her Mazda
It’s cool how all of those have such accuracy near each other
Yeah return that shit
2 hours of battery life, that’s not very good lmao
VBOX is such a good product and has been for a long long time
Nice vid. Enjoyed your commentary as usual
Lol cute doggo
Yeah the VBOX and the AIM Solo are not cheap. But if you are serious about performance and track days, then it's a necessary evil. The Dragy is great for people who just want something easy though.
I'm not sure how the in-car performance information works but I'm guessing most of the data works off built in meters and as well as pulling information from the ECU. I wouldn't be surprised if they also used a GPS receiver inside the car to cross reference that data as well before it displayed it.
We both acknowledge how much we hate the Mazda so we're getting every dollar we can out of it by beating the shit out of it lol.
2 hours of battery life is trash. Most people spend at least 6 hours at the track and if that thing is going to die on me before lunch, it's a pile of shit.
Thanks buddy, I don't do these kind of vids too often, but I can see why. Interest is pretty low on videos like this. Catch you on the next one man.
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Guys, the draggy CAN VE PLUGGED IN FOR A CONTINUOUS RUN TIME battery life is irrelevant if your at the track. You just plug your equipment in
I love my vbox I do have some issues with it sometimes not connecting to satellite which is a pain specially at track when I just want to drive!
It does take a little longer than the other two units to connect to satellites in my experience, also more sensitive in conditions where there is overhead obstacles.
An external antenna is a good option if you're having trouble with the GPS connection - some car windscreens do degrade the satellite signal.
Dragy is great but it looks like they have stopped developing/supporting it as there hasn't been a software update in quite sometime, and it's not like the software (android) doesn't have bugs. @Track day TV, have you looked at the P-GEAR performance meter, looks like their new version is with a 20hz gps (P-Gear P520), it also uses a mobile phone app and does track times.
That's pretty disappointing to hear. It was a great platform and had so much potential. I'll have to check out this P-Gear. Haven't heard of it before. I'm trying to find information about it but it seems pretty limited. I see a P600 on Amazon?
Hope I'm wrong about the dragy, and they are just taking their time. The P600 is the 10Hz version, here is their facebook page, might help you get more info : facebook.com/pgeartaiwan/ . Looks like for Europe etc. the model 20hz model is named p610 .
I heard dragy now accounts for the 1 foot rollout is that correct??? Tks.
@Super Duper Dragy always had the 1ft rollout number and you can view it in the detailed breakdowns.
Just bought a draggy.
@Track Day - Dragy got awful reviews on Amazon mostly for charging/functionality purposes. Have you (or anyone here) had similar negative experiences? Is the charging micro USB port fail quickly (think of old Samsung phones)? TIA
@kiiiburn I’ve been experiencing the charge-holding capabilities starting to deteriorate pretty quickly. I’m still on my first Dragy, however, I’m noticing that it either doesn’t hold a charge anymore or the battery just dies suddenly without much use. I also know someone who is on their second Dragy in a year now because of that similar issue. I think longevity comes down to pure luck, but I’ve been testing a lot of new dataloggers recently and I’ll be following up on this datalogger conversation soon. I will say that Dragy still provides the best bang for buck and ease of use. Nothing else on the market is comparable at this price point.
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Definitely interested in more data logging content. I'll pick up the dragy at a very reasonable price for now. It can't it be all that hard to open it and replace the cheap battery right?
My VBox only displays 1/10 ths seconds not 100th secs on 0-60 times eg 5.1 not 5.11 or am I missing something?
I guess I should've clarified this one. On the actual display, it is only tenths of a second but in the Racelogic software, it's hundredths. But on the AIM Solo, it's thousandths in the software and at least hundredths in the display.
Mannn, monotone knocked my ass out lol if you have been short sleep building engines do not watch this sitting down
Oh
My Z06 has a built in PDR. Help me understand why I need one of these?
PDR is a great tool. If that is your only car that you want to get lap info and performance data on, then there's likely no need. But if you have cars that don't have PDR and want to get info on, it's helpful to have a tool that can be transferred easily.
Let's talk about that Wenge table tho.... 😯
Wishing the dragy can do 40-100
You can set custom modes in the Dragy to have 40-100.
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy Thought so but still haven't figured that part out yet.
@@MODIT When you connect the Dragy and open the app, before you do any runs, next to the report button, there is a little plus symbol. Press that, it'll bring up a tab for Custom Mode and in that custom mode, you can add whatever custom metric you want.
Had no idea the aim solo was such a pile of junk, you’d think for 700 bucks they’d get it right.