TO SAVE 15% OFF YOUR NEXT RACEBOX PURCHASE USE PROMO CODE "VANCITY15" AT www.racebox.pro/store/ Before any of the Dragy fanboi's start losing their sh$t, just know that I took both my Dragy & my Racebox Mini S to the track the very next week, and yet again, the Racebox Mini S provided more accurate results on every run. Thanks for watching!
I have a Dragy DRG69 (bought in 2018) and just got a RaceBox. I like the RaceBox way more! It's much easier to use, super consistent, finds satellites quickly, and has a long battery life. The Dragy has signal problems in well insulated cars, and sometimes reads out very weird numbers, which seem to be slower than reality, or in some cases slightly overly optimistic. Maybe it's due to age, but I'll make a comparison video soon to see what the difference is. The RaceBox is an amazing device!
From just a quick Google search it looks like a simple gauge and datalogger. Considering I log with my tuning cables usually, I don't think I'd have any use for that. Thanks though!
"Quick Google Search", if you look closer you'll see that it's like no other "gauge". It's smart and will warn you before things break. I love mine and it saved my engine.@@VancityAudi
@@VancityAudiawesome comparison of those devices. Great vid!! The Hurt Alert is probably the nost misunderstood car device in the world. And thats probably my fault. Its the first of its kind which actually runs all the numbers through algorithms rather than just show values on a screen. Doing this makes the Hurt Alert detect and alert on issues like persistent knock, running too Rich, running to Lean, bad fuel, basically issues where multiple values need to be calculated to determine a major issue.
Interesting! I was always amazed (and still am) at how accurate my Dragy was; but to see that there's something even more accurate just blows my mind. Even so, i love my Dragy and appreciate it for what it is, as it's still really good.
I'm so glad you did this !!! thank you. It looks like if the 60' clock was changed to 59' it would appear to be dead on, clock to clock. dead on enough anyway...
I have bought 2 Dragys and both have failed in that they won't charge any more after a few months. I was wondering if a Racebox unit has been having the same issues. I like Dragy when it works but can't keep buying these and don't feel there should be a need to change the battery this often.
Adam about 2yr ago you test the pgear with your old dragy...if not much to ask it is possible that you can do the same test including you new acquired Racebox...and btw like always awesome video and thanks for keep your audience informative. Outstanding job!
This isn’t the only comparison on RUclips that shows the race box more accurate while user comments also claim its way easier to use. Looks like it’s goodbye time for Dragy
I was going to buy the dragy, did a quick Google search before hitting the purchase button, and found the Racebox Mini S instead. Everyone in the forums says it's better in almost every way.
Concerning timing, there wasn't actually a difference between the DRG70 and the RaceBox Mini S. If you don't care about speed, it actually doesn't really matter. Taken the price-difference into account: if you don't need it professionally or only need straightline performance numbers, I'd simply recommend going with the cheaper Dragy. Simply can't justify a 60 to 70 higher pricetag for a racebox for that purpose. I am about to buy the dragy or the mini S, at this moment I am leaning towards the dragy, price- and usewise, even though I like the smaller formfactor of the Mini S a tad more.
You must have been watching a different video, lol. The DRG70 was the worst in terms of an ET compared to the time slips. Only on the 3rd run did it display the same ET. Like my pinned comment mentions, I continued to use my Racebox, and it has consistently been more accurate then the Dragy devices.
@@VancityAudi I've cutted the corner quite a bit indeed. Even though I still think that average Rob won't go wrong with either device. I just grabbed a RaceBox Mini S myself. an additional 25% off, due to Black Friday, made it a sub 200 device. Still a difference compared to dragy, but that's definately worth it for me.
@@VancityAudi You're right! The Dragy also seems to under report the actual trap speeds, which I've noticed in my testing. That is especially noticeable in cars with good insulation.
The comparison to a time slip from a dragstrip to one of these units is not a fair comparison. The timing on a dragstrip doesn't begin until you break the timing beam. The timing beam is a little over a foot from the final staging beam. Your vehicle is already in motion when timing starts on a dragstrip. The gps units start timing as soon as the car moves. Trap speeds would be the equivalent at 1319 feet on the dragstrip. Ets will be slower on the gps units slightly because of the 1 foot rolling start on the dragstrip. The comparison between the gps units is good info. Unless you deep stage almost all the way to the timing beam, you won't know which is the most accurate gps unit.
But a Drag Strip allows for roll out.. giving a foot before it starts recording time. Draggy does not allow that.. it starts as soon as the car starts to move.
Iv always wondered if my dragy was a lemon, or if I my car was just slow compared to others. Have you ever heard of a dragy being super inaccurate ? I’m getting like 9 secs 60-130 in my e63 according to dragy which is 💩
I have heard of Dragy results being inaccurate. Sometimes they can't acquire a good enough satellite signal and produce either too quick or too slow a result versus what the car really does.
Yeah, the overlay feature is really nice as it pretty much prints your ticket as you make the run, in car, as proof. And it can't be manipulated. For guys who don't go to the track much, the feature is a must for posting YT videos.
Accuracy depends more on your staging then on anything else. If you stage deeper, you are triggering sensors a bit earlier, so difference is only in that. In theory, if GPS device has enough satelites and signal is stable, it should be more precise then drag strip. ET is Estimated time, not measured time, so it does estimation. Also trap speed is estimated, not measured. With GPS devices, everything is measured, and it is done 10 to 20 times in a second.
Seeing as the entire point of this video is to find a GPS device that measures as close to possible as what we see for ET & trap speeds compared to the NHRA certified drag strip time slip I don't see your comment as relevant considering drag racing time slips at NHRA certified tracks are considered the highest form of accuracy in drag racing.
@@VancityAudi point is that staging need to be constant so you can get silimar results. Every app has its own algorithm for staging, and Racebuddy app and device give you ability to chose what type of staging you use to get the same as on the strip.
ET stands for elapsed time, not estimate time. The drag strip uses sensors, called the "beams" to measure speed and time. The time is based on the time it takes the front tires to break the finish line beams after unbreaking the staging beams. Speed at the track is calculated based off the time it takes the car to travel between the final two beams in the track.
Your equipment should be more accurate than the drag strip timers when it comes to mph readings. Your devices will record GPS speeds, but the track uses the time it takes to cross the last 66' of the strip to calculate your speed.
Considering I can use multiple different GPS devices to measure my MPH at the same time, and they'll all read differently, I'll trust the NHRA certified time slip any day of week over one of these devices.
😂😂😂 Biased?!?! I show numbers from both devices, and the Racebox Mini S is more accurate. How the hell is that biased? 😂 I already tested the Dragy against the P-Gear GPS device, and the Dragy came out on top: ruclips.net/video/3Ns5YuinVSs/видео.html
TO SAVE 15% OFF YOUR NEXT RACEBOX PURCHASE USE PROMO CODE "VANCITY15" AT www.racebox.pro/store/
Before any of the Dragy fanboi's start losing their sh$t, just know that I took both my Dragy & my Racebox Mini S to the track the very next week, and yet again, the Racebox Mini S provided more accurate results on every run. Thanks for watching!
I have a Dragy DRG69 (bought in 2018) and just got a RaceBox. I like the RaceBox way more! It's much easier to use, super consistent, finds satellites quickly, and has a long battery life. The Dragy has signal problems in well insulated cars, and sometimes reads out very weird numbers, which seem to be slower than reality, or in some cases slightly overly optimistic. Maybe it's due to age, but I'll make a comparison video soon to see what the difference is. The RaceBox is an amazing device!
Good stuff Adam. Thanks for taking the time to compare them all🙂
Thanks for watching!
Very interesting and useful information, thanks for doing this video!
I'm glad it was helpful, and thanks for watching!
Nice test, tnx Adam.
No problem. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the content. Always transparent with quality information.
You're very welcome!
You seem to love gadgets, get yourself a Hurt Alert, they're wicked!
From just a quick Google search it looks like a simple gauge and datalogger. Considering I log with my tuning cables usually, I don't think I'd have any use for that. Thanks though!
"Quick Google Search", if you look closer you'll see that it's like no other "gauge". It's smart and will warn you before things break. I love mine and it saved my engine.@@VancityAudi
@@VancityAudiawesome comparison of those devices. Great vid!! The Hurt Alert is probably the nost misunderstood car device in the world. And thats probably my fault. Its the first of its kind which actually runs all the numbers through algorithms rather than just show values on a screen. Doing this makes the Hurt Alert detect and alert on issues like persistent knock, running too Rich, running to Lean, bad fuel, basically issues where multiple values need to be calculated to determine a major issue.
Thanks for all the efforts you put into these videos!
Glad you like them!
@@VancityAudi curious what made you not go TTRs after the rs3..seems like that's already a proven killer for most
@brianchuck9264 the RS3 isn't gone
Saw the notification and thought it was the iroz video 😢 still a banger vid! Can't wait for the other 👀
I'm hoping to have Hank's world record setting run up for Friday!
Interesting! I was always amazed (and still am) at how accurate my Dragy was; but to see that there's something even more accurate just blows my mind.
Even so, i love my Dragy and appreciate it for what it is, as it's still really good.
Agreed. It's still good for 90% of people out there!
I'm so glad you did this !!! thank you. It looks like if the 60' clock was changed to 59' it would appear to be dead on, clock to clock. dead on enough anyway...
I have bought 2 Dragys and both have failed in that they won't charge any more after a few months. I was wondering if a Racebox unit has been having the same issues. I like Dragy when it works but can't keep buying these and don't feel there should be a need to change the battery this often.
I've been very lucky thus far and have had zero issues with my Racebox Mini S
@@VancityAudi Thanks for getting back to me. Do you like the Racebox Pro?
@JohnHunter-qt6dg I still use it to this day instead of Dragy.
So you're saying, i need a Racebox mini S. Haha Awesome video, great comparison results
Thanks! I'll be using one moving forward.
Adam about 2yr ago you test the pgear with your old dragy...if not much to ask it is possible that you can do the same test including you new acquired Racebox...and btw like always awesome video and thanks for keep your audience informative. Outstanding job!
Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I sold the P-Gear a long time ago so sadly I won't be able to make that comparison for you.
This isn’t the only comparison on RUclips that shows the race box more accurate while user comments also claim its way easier to use. Looks like it’s goodbye time for Dragy
Make sure you use promo code VANCITY15 at www.racebox.pro/store/ to save 15%!
I was going to buy the dragy, did a quick Google search before hitting the purchase button, and found the Racebox Mini S instead. Everyone in the forums says it's better in almost every way.
Concerning timing, there wasn't actually a difference between the DRG70 and the RaceBox Mini S. If you don't care about speed, it actually doesn't really matter. Taken the price-difference into account: if you don't need it professionally or only need straightline performance numbers, I'd simply recommend going with the cheaper Dragy. Simply can't justify a 60 to 70 higher pricetag for a racebox for that purpose.
I am about to buy the dragy or the mini S, at this moment I am leaning towards the dragy, price- and usewise, even though I like the smaller formfactor of the Mini S a tad more.
You must have been watching a different video, lol. The DRG70 was the worst in terms of an ET compared to the time slips. Only on the 3rd run did it display the same ET.
Like my pinned comment mentions, I continued to use my Racebox, and it has consistently been more accurate then the Dragy devices.
@@VancityAudi I've cutted the corner quite a bit indeed. Even though I still think that average Rob won't go wrong with either device.
I just grabbed a RaceBox Mini S myself. an additional 25% off, due to Black Friday, made it a sub 200 device. Still a difference compared to dragy, but that's definately worth it for me.
@@VancityAudi You're right! The Dragy also seems to under report the actual trap speeds, which I've noticed in my testing. That is especially noticeable in cars with good insulation.
Nice runs and is the gti stock? And what tires
It's almost like I go over that in the video.... the tires are Hoosier DR2's.
Honestly, Racebox is more for comparing lap times than it is for dragstrip runs. But funny it beats the Dragy..
Not funny at all, it has a 25hz receiver vs the 10hz receiver in the Dragy ;-)
The comparison to a time slip from a dragstrip to one of these units is not a fair comparison. The timing on a dragstrip doesn't begin until you break the timing beam. The timing beam is a little over a foot from the final staging beam. Your vehicle is already in motion when timing starts on a dragstrip. The gps units start timing as soon as the car moves. Trap speeds would be the equivalent at 1319 feet on the dragstrip. Ets will be slower on the gps units slightly because of the 1 foot rolling start on the dragstrip. The comparison between the gps units is good info. Unless you deep stage almost all the way to the timing beam, you won't know which is the most accurate gps unit.
There is a 1ft rollout calculation built into both of these units to make for an equal comparison across the board.
@@VancityAudi Very cool. Thanks for the info. Please disregard my previous ramble.
Another nice comparison. No worries about tuning the GTI and warranty?
What's a warranty?
LOL - nuff said :)@@VancityAudi
But a Drag Strip allows for roll out.. giving a foot before it starts recording time. Draggy does not allow that.. it starts as soon as the car starts to move.
That is incorrect. Both Dragy and Racebox allow you to select a 1ft rollout or not.
@VancityAudi okay, I was incorrect. My bad. I thought it said it didn't when I bought mine. I will have to pay more attention to it next time.
@@Reaper1008no problemo. Thanks for watching
@VancityAudi I did enjoy. Good video.
Iv always wondered if my dragy was a lemon, or if I my car was just slow compared to others. Have you ever heard of a dragy being super inaccurate ? I’m getting like 9 secs 60-130 in my e63 according to dragy which is 💩
I have heard of Dragy results being inaccurate. Sometimes they can't acquire a good enough satellite signal and produce either too quick or too slow a result versus what the car really does.
9 seconds for an E63 is excellent, lol!!
Stock 2014 e63 should be in the 10’s, so depending on the year you’re doing well lmao
Ok review convinced me to buy the Racebox.
Very cool! Hopefully you used the promo code to save some mulah!
Does the Racebox have the overlay feature, though?
If you're referring to recording video at the same time, I don't think it does. I've never tried though.
Yeah, the overlay feature is really nice as it pretty much prints your ticket as you make the run, in car, as proof. And it can't be manipulated. For guys who don't go to the track much, the feature is a must for posting YT videos.
Accuracy depends more on your staging then on anything else. If you stage deeper, you are triggering sensors a bit earlier, so difference is only in that.
In theory, if GPS device has enough satelites and signal is stable, it should be more precise then drag strip.
ET is Estimated time, not measured time, so it does estimation. Also trap speed is estimated, not measured. With GPS devices, everything is measured, and it is done 10 to 20 times in a second.
Seeing as the entire point of this video is to find a GPS device that measures as close to possible as what we see for ET & trap speeds compared to the NHRA certified drag strip time slip I don't see your comment as relevant considering drag racing time slips at NHRA certified tracks are considered the highest form of accuracy in drag racing.
@@VancityAudi point is that staging need to be constant so you can get silimar results. Every app has its own algorithm for staging, and Racebuddy app and device give you ability to chose what type of staging you use to get the same as on the strip.
@racebuddy oh I see. You're a competing product, lol. I'll take everything you say with a massive grain of salt then, lol.
ET stands for elapsed time, not estimate time. The drag strip uses sensors, called the "beams" to measure speed and time. The time is based on the time it takes the front tires to break the finish line beams after unbreaking the staging beams. Speed at the track is calculated based off the time it takes the car to travel between the final two beams in the track.
Test the 70c 25hz
No. Lol. I'm done testing these devices.
Your equipment should be more accurate than the drag strip timers when it comes to mph readings. Your devices will record GPS speeds, but the track uses the time it takes to cross the last 66' of the strip to calculate your speed.
Considering I can use multiple different GPS devices to measure my MPH at the same time, and they'll all read differently, I'll trust the NHRA certified time slip any day of week over one of these devices.
You sound abit biased towards the racebox
😂 ya, because it proved to be more accurate.
@@VancityAudi accuracy in speed, aggreed, accuracy in timing, quite the same offset imo. I guess, average Rob won't go wrong with either device.
I just bought one recently! Love it way more than the Dragy. Much more accurate device.
Video is biased asf, you’d be a fool to spend more on essentially the same results for a device like this
😂😂😂 Biased?!?! I show numbers from both devices, and the Racebox Mini S is more accurate. How the hell is that biased? 😂 I already tested the Dragy against the P-Gear GPS device, and the Dragy came out on top: ruclips.net/video/3Ns5YuinVSs/видео.html
Have you even watched the video? Biased how? Be a man and answer the question.