The Truth Behind The Faked Tasmanian Tiger Footage!

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  • Who was behind the Tasmanian Tiger images and why have we not heard any updates. Let's theorise.
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  • @AGamingBeaver
    @AGamingBeaver  Месяц назад +588

    I hope it goes without saying to not send hate towards anyone in particular. The truth will eventually come out.
    *EDIT* Added a breakdown timeline of when things came out.
    At the end of the day if what i say holds some weight and my claims are founded. Forrest has made what money he wanted from the video and archesuchus got some good visibility on his work.

  • @ckm5702
    @ckm5702 Месяц назад +674

    The mouth looking like "[" instead of "

    • @FelidaeEnjoyer
      @FelidaeEnjoyer Месяц назад +47

      Entire thylacinus genus more like

    • @dogboy4978
      @dogboy4978 Месяц назад +3

      @@FelidaeEnjoyer🤓🤓🤓

    • @FelidaeEnjoyer
      @FelidaeEnjoyer Месяц назад

      @@dogboy4978 Dislike

    • @StickminDude2.0
      @StickminDude2.0 Месяц назад

      Average RUclips Comment when you show slightly above IQ info:

    • @soup6661
      @soup6661 Месяц назад

      🤡🤡🤡🤡​@@dogboy4978

  • @JohnCena8351
    @JohnCena8351 Месяц назад +426

    In a time with A.I. , photoshop and 3-D animation, I find it weird that so many people see pictures as definitiv proof for things like that.
    Not that they are completely worthless. You can always check meta data, check for any hints of photoshop work, etc.
    But barely anyone wants to do all that work.

    • @RyDaCol
      @RyDaCol Месяц назад +14

      It's kinda scary ngl

    • @Natebeast35755
      @Natebeast35755 Месяц назад +7

      Still watching beaver after all theses years huh lol your a true fan bro

    • @fenrirgg
      @fenrirgg Месяц назад +2

      Most people will initially believe someone that claims is saying the truth.
      Then comes the disproving and stuff.

  • @nuniyoa
    @nuniyoa Месяц назад +169

    archesuchus has revealed their face and voice on their yt channel (just called "archesuchus"), they don't look or sound anything like zack. worst thing's worst, they're just the person to take the pics

    • @just_some_guy.703
      @just_some_guy.703 Месяц назад +30

      Another detail that doesn't lineup is that Archesuchus had the puppet. So why would they edit together pictures of the puppet they already had, instead of taking completely new pictures to be untraceable?

    • @actionthinking7529
      @actionthinking7529 Месяц назад

      To make them look even worse on purpose. They wanted to trick Forrest to show him as a bad source of information, while also able to insert their work in to Channel back some internet traffic to themselves. If they used just the doll they couldn’t show it off as their art, and it might be considered to convincing to count as a getting one over on Forrest.

    • @SaurianAnimates65
      @SaurianAnimates65 Месяц назад +8

      What I was gonna say, that is NOT Archesuchus at all!

    • @nimravideos3058
      @nimravideos3058 Месяц назад +7

      Archesuchus has clarified it on May 15 and May 25 on Twitter. It's not him and the pictures are not his puppet.

    • @raptor9777
      @raptor9777 Месяц назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@nimravideos3058Andresuchus is lying.
      The photographs are obviously of their puppet, in some of the photos the stripes and heel placement (which is inaccurate in Andre’s model) are a 100% match.
      Any discrepancies can simply be explained by Andresuchus photoshopping or digitally touching up the photos before they were sent to Forrest.
      Now it’s probably not Andresuchus in the Forrest interview, but whoever it was is clearly in contact with Andresuchus as that ‘turtle guy’ comment was an obvious troll

  • @kazu_thorn
    @kazu_thorn Месяц назад +190

    As soon as i saw the jaw i knew it was faked it doesnt even has a nose

    • @omarsali2990
      @omarsali2990 Месяц назад +1

      Youd be surprised how much dogs and cats can open their mouth

    • @omarsali2990
      @omarsali2990 Месяц назад +3

      The fake model was very realistic there was a problem with the story many problems even
      I dont blame forest fir thaat tho I know I could've too

    • @kazu_thorn
      @kazu_thorn Месяц назад +2

      @omarsali2990 no I'm talking about how the jaw is [ instead if < as far as I'm aware there isn't an animal that opens its mouth with a [ shape

    • @omarsali2990
      @omarsali2990 Месяц назад

      @@kazu_thorn true not only that there arent any wrinkles on the picture even if it could open the mouth like that it would have wrinkles when doing

  • @streakycandy656
    @streakycandy656 Месяц назад +239

    my mom was highly disappointed when she saw this was fake

    • @paimon3979
      @paimon3979 Месяц назад +3

      ofc it’s fake

    • @streakycandy656
      @streakycandy656 Месяц назад

      @@paimon3979 i tried to tell her this but she wouldn’t believe me

    • @streakycandy656
      @streakycandy656 Месяц назад +3

      @@paimon3979 she did know that when beaver said smth

    • @paimon3979
      @paimon3979 Месяц назад +1

      @@streakycandy656 *S H E* ?!

    • @streakycandy656
      @streakycandy656 Месяц назад +2

      @@paimon3979 yea my mother is a female

  • @trinopad
    @trinopad Месяц назад +105

    I do believe those pictures are 100% fake (don't get me wrong) but Archesuchus has a youtube channel and they do talk more clear in a update video. However, I don't believe they are the "turtle man" and from what I know about Arch, this is something I really don't see them doing.

    • @RandomShortGuy528
      @RandomShortGuy528 Месяц назад +12

      Yeah also the guy (from what we see of him) doesn’t sound or look like Archesuchus either

    • @trinopad
      @trinopad Месяц назад

      ​@@RandomShortGuy528 exactly

    • @randomanimations6770
      @randomanimations6770 Месяц назад +5

      literally like its nothing like what arche does at all ?? its a mix of coincidence, stealing a wip photo to use as a base, and then just creating the animal using the same sources archesuchus used for theirs.

    • @raptor9777
      @raptor9777 Месяц назад +8

      The guy in the interview appeared to be reading from a script so the obvious answer is that Andresuchus got someone else to do the interview to distance themselves from the photos.

    • @kamikazehound3243
      @kamikazehound3243 16 дней назад +1

      Late but arche twitter says he lives in Chicago, turtle guy said he lives in chicago and flew straight from Chicago to Tasmania.

  • @Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae
    @Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae Месяц назад +192

    I really don’t think it was Archesuchus since we know what Arche looks and sounds like from Arche’s RUclips, if it was Archesuchus who sent them he wouldn’t have cobbled his own images together

    • @AGamingBeaver
      @AGamingBeaver  Месяц назад +96

      The missing piece of the puzzle in that case would be who got a hold of those images and how?

    • @WildWorld81
      @WildWorld81 Месяц назад +70

      @@AGamingBeaver personal theory of mine: they potentially had a falling out with someone they know personally (either online or IRL) that’s enacting petty vengeance
      Either way Arche needs to speak on this. Not really something they can ignore anymore
      Edit: Arche has spoken. And it’s starting to lead more credence to my theory

    • @kazu_thorn
      @kazu_thorn Месяц назад +26

      All of their fake cryptid photos they post have the exact same look and editing done to them
      But someone else could've done the interview like a friend
      It could be their friend group pranking the other youtuber

    • @afunnytheropod
      @afunnytheropod Месяц назад +3

      ​@WildWorld81 truthfully that sounds rather reasonable

    • @KAshoot.
      @KAshoot. Месяц назад +5

      May be this just a mistake or I’m just dumb or isn’t the (person I can’t spell) bio say I’m a young lady and I think beaver call the person a he? Idk though maybe just a small mistake. But seems pretty hard to deep fake something like that. Or maybe there’s an obvious thing I’m missing if so sorry.

  • @parkersanderson4156
    @parkersanderson4156 Месяц назад +46

    I thought I heard "Archesuchus" before, but when you showed the picture at 6:38 I remembered him from the Weird Bird series

    • @Axodle
      @Axodle Месяц назад +2

      weird birds is goated

  • @alphaxenopete8241
    @alphaxenopete8241 Месяц назад +11

    archesuchus and the person in the interview are two different people,the biggest thing that sorta stops this from being archesuchus is that archesuchus began modelling their thylacine on the 13th may. way before there could even be any picture taken of the full complete model

    • @AGamingBeaver
      @AGamingBeaver  Месяц назад +5

      I have it dated to the 9th of May but if this was planned then those pictures could have been posted slowly after it was already completed to give the illusion that it couldn't be them. Honestly who knows really it's all speculation though

  • @blayde224
    @blayde224 Месяц назад +21

    The question I now have is why would Archesuchus go out of his way to take pics of his puppet, then take those pics and use them to make fakes with editing and send them to Forrest. Why not just take an entirely separate set of photos in the dark outside one night and send those. Why the extra hoops? Personally, I think it would make more sense if someone else took Archeauchus's photos and made the fakes from those.

    • @oreolaw9911
      @oreolaw9911 Месяц назад +1

      humans are naturally lazy and no one would put in extra effort if there was a easier way to get better results so yeah it's probably not Archesuchus

    • @Stooltoad5017
      @Stooltoad5017 Месяц назад +4

      If somebody else did fake the photos, then the question is how did they get ahold of them before Archesuchus posted the photos?

    • @blayde224
      @blayde224 Месяц назад +3

      @Stooltoad5017 Agreed... but it just doesn't add up. Unless you want to believe that Archesuchus created the fakes for the soul purpose of being debunked by people who know a thing or two about editing and in doing so making Forrest look bad. It's kind of petty to go so far to undermine someone you don't like.

    • @onlyenzoYT
      @onlyenzoYT Месяц назад

      @@blayde224 Jesus Christ loves u died n rose again for ur forgiveness Amen

    • @darkonyx6995
      @darkonyx6995 27 дней назад +1

      @@blayde224 Archesuchus likely contributed in the creation of those images, but not with the intent of being hoaxes, rather, he was probably making something for his Weird Birds project, and the images were stolen.

  • @velochieraptor2215
    @velochieraptor2215 Месяц назад +6

    It’s also good to mention that in the photo at 3:44 the thylacine doesn’t have a nose, you can see exactly where one should be but it matches the colour of the background.

  • @thelittleal1212
    @thelittleal1212 Месяц назад +52

    Well let’s see if forrest will eventually make an expedition to Papua New Guinea, where he thinks is potentially the last stronghold of the thylacine.
    But, if it turns out not to be, let’s see how the cloning process might turn out.
    Either way, it seems that we might eventually see the thylacine in one way or another

    • @Cult-of-the-sun
      @Cult-of-the-sun Месяц назад +3

      It’s you

    • @thelittleal1212
      @thelittleal1212 Месяц назад +2

      @@Cult-of-the-sun it’s a me

    • @AKayani559
      @AKayani559 Месяц назад +2

      I seen alot of vi saying cloning a tylacine is a fictional thing cause its closes relative is nothing like it while for something like a mammoth is more plausible cause you have elephants which are very similar

    • @thelittleal1212
      @thelittleal1212 Месяц назад

      @@AKayani559 ye, this is the one thing that I’m still speculative about, but in the other hand, there’s also this one concept I’ve heard that theirs a possibility to make a artificial uterus for the cloned Fetus.
      But I’m not much of a science expert on that one, so let’s see how the scientist will figure that out.
      And again, there’s also this small possibility that they might be hanging out in Papua New Guinea.
      But again we have to wait and see if they will ever make an Expedition and find anything

    • @badclassicalmusic
      @badclassicalmusic Месяц назад

      @@thelittleal1212How would you get the Cloned tazmanian tiger baby in the first place?

  • @konansmojo
    @konansmojo Месяц назад +3

    I think he's in the good even if it's fake. He did say throughout the video that he was not confirming he thought it was real but i think he's so emotionally involved in finding one that he showed a major amount of excitement. I can't fault him for that. He has rediscovered a couple extinct species in his work.

  • @that1individual273
    @that1individual273 Месяц назад +13

    Archesuchus is most definitely not involved with this hoax. The person in the interview looks and sounds absolutely nothing like Archesuchus. And based off of Archesuchus’ history it would be extremely out of character to hoax a sighting like this. However, I do believe the person in the interview did steal/manipulate Archesuchus’ art to create the hoax images.
    Tbh I don’t even really keep up with Archesuchus’ work aside from checking in occasionally. But it’s pretty ill to just accuse Archesuchus of contributing to this hoax. Damaging their career and art in the process.

  • @justyouraverageweirdo
    @justyouraverageweirdo Месяц назад +8

    Arch is not the turtle guy. On twitter in a response to your tweet showed a selfie and ARCH LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THE SO CALLED TURTLE GUY.

    • @marcopaulo_
      @marcopaulo_ Месяц назад +2

      arch is the turtle guys friend. you know how it was the turtle guys friend who contacted forrest first? That guy had a dog in his pfp and that dog is identical to archesuchus dog

  • @WildWorld81
    @WildWorld81 Месяц назад +113

    I really still wouldn’t give Forrest the benefit of the doubt here. He’s a known grifter and parachute biologist who’s been more or less ostracized by the academic community. He needs to have at least some consequences for what is at minimum gross irresponsibility on his part
    Especially given that he’s now hocking mockumentary footage of a Steller’s sea cow supposedly saying it’s extant in GREENLAND of all places (thousands of miles in both directions from its historic distribution) tells me that not everything is as it seems. This has a serious negative implication on legit conservation and searches to rediscover missing species (animals that may still be extant but are only known from the holotype from 50-100 years ago).
    At this point Archesuchus needs to speak out as well, because, though I have my suspicions (still leaning on it not being them), only their words will completely clear things up for better or for worse. What would confuse me is why? Why let pettiness get so far that you implode your own career over it. Personally I think it’s someone who knows Arche well either online or IRL who is enacting petty vengeance for whatever reason
    Forrest doesn’t need to be tricked by a hoax to screw with his credibility. He’s done that for years already at this point

    • @AGamingBeaver
      @AGamingBeaver  Месяц назад +41

      There is still something missing that's for sure. But both Forrest and Arche have let this lie they seem happy for things to be the way they are

    • @WildWorld81
      @WildWorld81 Месяц назад +1

      @@AGamingBeaver unfortunately the bigger question will be, will their respective communities let it lie as it is? Many of Forrest’s fans are now looking for proverbial blood as a result of this. Which is really not good

    • @cryodrakonboreas8628
      @cryodrakonboreas8628 Месяц назад +9

      And none of the "scientific" work he's done was ever published which is kinda the whole point.

    • @WildWorld81
      @WildWorld81 Месяц назад +7

      @@cryodrakonboreas8628 exactly this here. And had Forrest done his due diligence we wouldn’t be in this situation

    • @Sanas_Shy_Language
      @Sanas_Shy_Language Месяц назад +4

      @@AGamingBeaverArche did nothing? Could you not just assume?

  • @OVER-RANNUS
    @OVER-RANNUS Месяц назад +12

    Beaver, you with these investigations videos are awesome!!!!! Keep making amazing videos!!!!

  • @Timotheee240
    @Timotheee240 Месяц назад +9

    i honestly love this type of content, feels more honest and diffrent from the usual videos and its a refresher from the hyper gaming content

  • @BlackViperStudios
    @BlackViperStudios Месяц назад +75

    Well said Beaver! Well said!

  • @cjanderson2371
    @cjanderson2371 Месяц назад +8

    I would be cautious in blaming Archesuchus for the fakes. It’s very possible someone stole his images and art to troll Forrest. Art is stolen from legitimate artists all the time (look at AI). Before we have definitive proof as to who is behind it, I wouldn’t blame anyone, especially since many say that Archesuchus sounds and looks nothing like Zack in the Forrest video.

    • @colbynuthalloutdoors
      @colbynuthalloutdoors Месяц назад +1

      i agree with this… i’m kinda disappointed beaver is kinda throwing caution to the wind with these theories while chastising other creators for doing it

    • @ChromaKeyMystress
      @ChromaKeyMystress 22 дня назад

      This video could be considered defamation of character in a court of law as it disparages Archesuchus' integrity without actual proof.

  • @oreolaw9911
    @oreolaw9911 Месяц назад +12

    I could imagine Archesucus wanting to humiliate Forest but this is too sloppy I cannot imagine him doing it this way . the best way for Archesucus to humiliate Forest would be to get a friend to give Forest the fake photos and to do the interview with a fake story wait for him to make the video and then after a few days release a video or a post or something going over how he created the model and the fake images .
    if Archesucus was the one orchestrating these fakes and wanting to humiliate Forest it just doesn't make sense for him to do it in such a sloppy way it especially doesn't make sense for him to release photos a day before the video because if you're faking something with a physical prop you never reveal the prop before the hoax's becomes public and if I'm clever enough to know that so is Archesucus.
    pretty much in conclusion the fakes are too messy to be orchestrated by Archesucus with the information we have it doesn't make sense for him to have been behind the fakes he might be involved but he is not the mastermind
    Ps the fake images don't actually look like they're using the prop instead they look like they're using images of the prop sliced together but I might be mistaken because that's not my expertise when it comes to making hoax

  • @jafengaming
    @jafengaming Месяц назад +9

    I'm pretty sure Turtle guy isn't Archesuches judging by their RUclips channel. The voice doesn't sound all that similar to me, and they look different. I could be wrong as I haven't seen their channel in a while.

    • @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
      @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Месяц назад +1

      Thing is, if Turtle Guy _isn't_ Arche, how the hell did Turtle Guy get ahold of the photos that weren't public until _AFTER_ Forrest's video came out?

    • @jafengaming
      @jafengaming Месяц назад +2

      @@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim a close friend maybe? I honestly don't know.

    • @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
      @VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Месяц назад +1

      @jafengaming That is certainly the question.
      Either way, he does need to say _something_ about this. Cause as of RN, Arche does look like the best culprit.

    • @WildWorld81
      @WildWorld81 Месяц назад +1

      @@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim update. They just posted on Twitter

    • @amethyst..2
      @amethyst..2 Месяц назад

      @@WildWorld81he said something about it the day of the upload!

  • @XxTheCupidKidxX
    @XxTheCupidKidxX Месяц назад +24

    This is how I learned there's actual footage of a thylacine and I'm absolutely stunned by how beautiful of an animal it was in life. Games and art truly doesn't compare, it's like seeing a ghost.

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Месяц назад +1

      yeah

    • @badclassicalmusic
      @badclassicalmusic Месяц назад

      its just a coyote

    • @JPOG7TV
      @JPOG7TV Месяц назад +4

      @@badclassicalmusicthey are talking about the actual recorded footage of the animal in the past

    • @badclassicalmusic
      @badclassicalmusic Месяц назад +1

      @@JPOG7TV I know it just look slike a coyote

    • @plfaproductions
      @plfaproductions Месяц назад +6

      @@badclassicalmusic what coyotes have you been seeing? No coyote looks like a big orange opossum

  • @Pale_7567
    @Pale_7567 Месяц назад +17

    The video showcasing the timeline and debunking the photos is still good.
    In my opinion however, you could’ve cut out the Archesuchus call-out in the re-up, it’s all still pure speculation at the end of the day. You could literally have reached out to Archesuchus for comment, and your only “evidence” is them commenting on a joke post, the coincidence post and then them having turtles, it’s so half baked.

    • @AGamingBeaver
      @AGamingBeaver  Месяц назад +24

      They put out a statement on twitter about it not being them, so why would I need to ask them if it was them. They even said someone must have used his images. I still state that it's speculation and a theory. There is no call out moment that you are set on saying there is. There is still something missing from the story

    • @Pale_7567
      @Pale_7567 Месяц назад +13

      When you say “Oh they already said it wasn’t them so why ask again?”
      Potentially you could’ve inquired more about their like Thylacine puppet/model.
      Maybe could’ve gotten more info of their understanding of how they go about making their model more life-like/convincing. Or even have another voice of perspective of knowledge of their craft which isn’t “creating hoaxes”, but creating models.

    • @megaraptora
      @megaraptora Месяц назад +11

      ​​@@AGamingBeaverthis still looks extremely bad on your part, you're just sending random people to witchhunt a kid. You have a large following, and while you may not be a bad person, it doesn't mean everyone here is like that

    • @juaquintiscareno
      @juaquintiscareno Месяц назад +10

      @@megaraptora “your sending people to witchhunt” dude read the pinned comment he literally says don’t go after anyone “oh but not everyone will listen” that just isn’t his fault at all especially after they say not to target anyone

    • @megaraptora
      @megaraptora Месяц назад +9

      @@juaquintiscareno yes it is COMPLETELY his fault, he just stated that archesuchus did it without even contacting him or anything. james is completely in the fault here for basically sending people after a literal kid

  • @crazyducklady5500
    @crazyducklady5500 Месяц назад +9

    I liked your video, but I'm worried about the part about arche, since people might start harassing them due to the claim you made even if it turns out it wasn't them and some petty friend or something or someone in a group chat, they sent photos. The internet is crazy y'know?
    Still liked your video, glad you debunked the photos!

    • @VenatorPaleo
      @VenatorPaleo Месяц назад +3

      Yeah it definitely wasn’t arche

    • @crazyducklady5500
      @crazyducklady5500 Месяц назад +1

      @@VenatorPaleo I also believe it probably wasn't Arche

    • @Stooltoad5017
      @Stooltoad5017 Месяц назад

      We probably won’t get full answers unless Archesuchus decides to say something about it. If they don’t, the more likely it seems for them to be faking it.

    • @fabricepoot1045
      @fabricepoot1045 Месяц назад +1

      There is no evidence of it being Arche, yet there is evidence that someone used his works to basically trick another channel. The question remains, who this person is and how he connects to Arche himself. Take a guess at who could possibly be the person to explain these details?
      Arche. He is a key role in this discussion, and will remain so as long as these details aren't clear

  • @elijahkuzniczci2938
    @elijahkuzniczci2938 Месяц назад +4

    Arch (the artist that made the thylacine model) actually has a RUclips channel. And they have a video where their face is shown. And it doesn't look like the guy in Forest galante's interview. Arch is 100% the person who made the model, but I'm not certain they're the one who orchestrated The hoax. Or at least I hope not cuz that's really not a good look.

  • @jurassicskitz6426
    @jurassicskitz6426 Месяц назад +4

    Been watching you since the start of the jw:tg videos, keep up the good work!

  • @CJSNYDER-hl4id
    @CJSNYDER-hl4id Месяц назад +1

    Hi beavs! Love your videos and have been watching them since i was six. Keep on making vids!

  • @gabrielsfilms2086
    @gabrielsfilms2086 Месяц назад +6

    thats literally not what archesuchus looks like. archesuchus wouldn't need to cobble together their own puppet which is movable. them having turtles means literally nothing. archesuchus seemed pretty displeased about this whole video on their twitter.

    • @marcopaulo_
      @marcopaulo_ Месяц назад

      archesuchus is behind it, Zak is his friend. beaver missed some crucial evidence out that links him together

    • @darkonyx6995
      @darkonyx6995 27 дней назад

      @@marcopaulo_ Where's the evidence then?

    • @marcopaulo_
      @marcopaulo_ 27 дней назад

      @@darkonyx6995 check beavers new upload

    • @marcopaulo_
      @marcopaulo_ 27 дней назад

      @@darkonyx6995 beavers new upload

    • @marcopaulo_
      @marcopaulo_ 27 дней назад

      @@darkonyx6995 beavers latest vid has it

  • @trxpxxadam
    @trxpxxadam Месяц назад +1

    I remember watching you back when I was around 9 years old, I’m now turning 18 years old and remembered about this channel. Holds a special place in my childhood. ❤️

  • @KitV91
    @KitV91 Месяц назад +4

    To be fair the photos don't even need to be photoshopped. If the guy from the interview took the photos, who's to say he didn't just take more photos in different positions and then keep the ones on his social media looking a little bit different for deniability sake?

  • @randompersonhere4119
    @randompersonhere4119 Месяц назад +9

    Gaming beaver should make a theory channel

    • @Blexxstar
      @Blexxstar Месяц назад

      Yeah

    • @ChromaKeyMystress
      @ChromaKeyMystress 22 дня назад +1

      no - because his theory's are just idiotic ramblings based on his hatred for others.

    • @HOLYAPLE
      @HOLYAPLE 10 дней назад

      @@ChromaKeyMystress he never said he hated anyone wtf? 💀

  • @qwilfish66
    @qwilfish66 Месяц назад +1

    Great video and new subscriber from Melbourne Australia 🦘

  • @maxbarnes9266
    @maxbarnes9266 Месяц назад +1

    7:34 giving me crazy vibes of his old little nightmares theory videos

  • @jimboskran4892
    @jimboskran4892 Месяц назад

    Hope to see more videos in this style, I'm glad that the previous one now has am update

  • @lycanias1562
    @lycanias1562 Месяц назад

    I swear, I can't help but to feel like Im watching a Little Nightmares theory video when Beaver does these vids, his narration adds so much mysterious vibes to the video, I Love it! Keep up the good work Beaves! ^-^

  • @Sheen223
    @Sheen223 Месяц назад +2

    Max the Tiny-Headed Dog! 🤣 (The Beaver Theory gives me so much nostalgia on Matpat)

  • @JTazzers
    @JTazzers Месяц назад

    Love these vids beavs keep it up ❤

  • @user-bv5cx8we9w
    @user-bv5cx8we9w Месяц назад +2

    Beaver is back!
    in the exciting sequel of:
    THE MYSTERY OF THE TAZMANIAN TIGER

  • @riccardosilvestrini9305
    @riccardosilvestrini9305 Месяц назад +2

    Hey beaver, question out of topic, do you already know when you are going to do the JW Chaos Theory watchparty?

  • @WaveDaSeaWing
    @WaveDaSeaWing Месяц назад +2

    7:17 Archesuchus has a yt channel and they have a video where they talked in that

  • @GigaMuslim62
    @GigaMuslim62 Месяц назад

    This feels like beavers old videos of when he did theories on little nightmares

  • @germa9090
    @germa9090 Месяц назад +5

    Aha! The last one was on private.

  • @Stooltoad5017
    @Stooltoad5017 Месяц назад +1

    I am still wondering what Archesuchus would have to gain from this other than making Forrest look worse. I had assumed somebody else had reused the images for their own gain but it seems that may not be the case.

  • @bossturner9540
    @bossturner9540 Месяц назад +1

    I really like these videos you do debunking things.

  • @Neeeeewt
    @Neeeeewt Месяц назад +1

    Beaver is slowly becoming matpat for dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals

  • @TheNitroRaptor
    @TheNitroRaptor Месяц назад +1

    James, at this point, you should become a private investigator for prehistoric animals😂

  • @garrettlee7742
    @garrettlee7742 Месяц назад +1

    When is the Jurassic World cast theory reaction coming out

  • @FellowIcedT
    @FellowIcedT Месяц назад +1

    patiently waiting for the chaos theory video

  • @Wysticalism
    @Wysticalism Месяц назад

    I like how Beaver suddenly went detective and noone is surprised.

  • @SamLee-iv3oe
    @SamLee-iv3oe Месяц назад

    Gaming beaver with this ranpo level deduction🥶🥶🥶🔥🔥

  • @thediamondcreepergaming4469
    @thediamondcreepergaming4469 Месяц назад +5

    It really looks like you did your research! (I'm too lazy to actually check that though lol).
    I will say, if this was Archesuchus who planned and executed this whole thing, that was pretty smart. There wouldn't be many photos to compare them to at the time, he'd be able to draw attention to his own images, and he'd be able to get some form of revenge or teach forest a lesson when the truth was discovered.
    Overall, I'm glad that there is enough solid evidence to prove this as fake. An extinct creature coming back would be cool, but it also brings a lot of problems. People don't let things naturally exist. If something that rare was known, more people would look for it, people would poach it, and it might end up having to be put in an enclosure or something to protect it, limiting its freedom and possibly its lifespan.
    Additionally, if the evidence were foggy, a whole bunch of other issues would be created.
    Thank you, beaver, for bringing attention to this, and finding evidence to disprove it. The hoaxes people develop for their own gain are crazy (although I don't think Archesuchus had much malicious intent except maybe to get back at Forest, if it was him).
    edit: Someone replied mentioning that there was more research that could have been done to find more evidence (I think the comment was deleted bcs I can't find it) so let me clarify what I meant: He did a lot of research, and did what was needed. Sure, its great to go above and beyond and get 100% of the facts, but that wasn't the goal of this video. The goal was simply to prove that Forest was fooled, and to spread awareness, and for that he achieved his goal beautifully.

  • @maddrexyy973
    @maddrexyy973 Месяц назад

    Dang beavers I didn’t think you a detective, BRAVO

  • @Thedragonskull24
    @Thedragonskull24 Месяц назад +1

    Hey beaver when is the chaos theory watch party it’s would be nice and it’s like season 1 and season 3 together

  • @gregwilliams853
    @gregwilliams853 Месяц назад +1

    Ah, to bad, I was kind of hoping there was still a small population of thylosines still around

  • @Dino_Boi885
    @Dino_Boi885 Месяц назад +2

    My dog's from Romania, she has 28 breeds, including 13% chihuahua, 7% Great Dane, and many more. She 's a biggish dog, so chihuahua having the highest percentage was surprising.

  • @Kory-Edits2024
    @Kory-Edits2024 Месяц назад +2

    I just have something to say about this video, archesuchus has videos on his channel with his face and voice, he is NOT the guy who sent the pictures
    I don't think theorys are your thing mate, this video just didn't make sense, there is NO chance and NO way that archesuchus is the guy who sent the pictures

  • @shaylin3515
    @shaylin3515 21 день назад

    I love Forrest. He’s actually so kind and hopeful. He did end up posting an update saying it was a scam

  • @CustomKaiju
    @CustomKaiju Месяц назад +2

    I doubt its arche, but its definetly fake. Probably his friend or someone he had a falling out with?

  • @user-hb5wf9do4g
    @user-hb5wf9do4g Месяц назад +1

    As a Tasmanian I never thought never would have made a video about this

  • @just_some_guy.703
    @just_some_guy.703 Месяц назад +1

    Archesuchus talks on their RUclips channel.
    Not saying they didn't make the pictures, but I don't think the turtle guy was them.

  • @Skyypixelgamer
    @Skyypixelgamer Месяц назад +4

    Beaver I feel you are perhaps being a little too quick to assume it’s arche. Some points make sense but saying that him having turtles and this guy saying he is a turtle guy really shouldn’t be used. I honestly think you could try to talk to them about it and see their side of the story. Still a fun watch and hopefully we can find out what’s really going on.
    All I know for certain is that the person on the interview and arche are 100% separate people.

  • @malekahmed7960
    @malekahmed7960 Месяц назад +1

    Archesuchus actually has a youtube channel where he speaks and shows his face if you want to compare that. I dont think he sent him the pictures.

    • @marcopaulo_
      @marcopaulo_ Месяц назад

      archesuchus is the guy who contacted forrest first, his dog is literally in that guys profile pic, he just got his friend to do the interview

  • @user-ht8cr5sb1x
    @user-ht8cr5sb1x Месяц назад

    this is some chaos theory-level conspiracy my guy

  • @Death_of_light
    @Death_of_light Месяц назад

    The cut out part doesn't make sense really unless you got good enough photos for that

  • @zimrandavid3878
    @zimrandavid3878 Месяц назад +2

    Although I don't think it's Archesuchus, the timing of the pics upload are suspiciously perfect to make Forest look bad. Also why would Archesuchus go himself as Zack if he wanted to orchestrate this, idk y people are ruling out the fact that it could just be a friend or something.
    The jawbone thing frustrates me too. But I don't rly think that's a motive to orchestrate something this complicated straight out of a Scooby-Doo episode plot.

    • @marcopaulo_
      @marcopaulo_ Месяц назад

      Zak is 100% archesuchus friend. you remember it was Zak's friend who contacted forrest first? He had a dog in his pfp, and that dog is identical to archesuchus dog

    • @zimrandavid3878
      @zimrandavid3878 Месяц назад

      @@marcopaulo_ fr??? I'll have to watch Forest's vid again.
      And where can I find Arch's dog? Does he have it on his Twitter?

    • @marcopaulo_
      @marcopaulo_ Месяц назад

      @@zimrandavid3878 ye

  • @FUNGUSLORD
    @FUNGUSLORD Месяц назад +1

    LEZ GO ANOTHER TASMANIAN TIGER VID. But lets just hope that forrest galante does the pupua new guinea expedition to find the Tasmanian Tiger

  • @Humanthing-kw7fz
    @Humanthing-kw7fz Месяц назад +1

    Archduchess has a channel with short and one video if you wanna compare his voice to the hoodie turtle man

  • @owenmiller7920
    @owenmiller7920 Месяц назад

    The Tasmanian tiger in the photo Forest was skeptical of reminded me of the andrewsarchus and animals of similar build in Jurassic world the game.(the first one)

  • @Ceranyx
    @Ceranyx Месяц назад +2

    Archesuchus wouldn’t start a whole hoax like this, right? They’re a pretty nice person who doesn’t seem like the tyoe to do this..?

  • @ArkticAnims-vt8zz
    @ArkticAnims-vt8zz Месяц назад +1

    I would like to answer the question as to how "Turtle Guy" got the photos from Archesuchus since Archesuchus most likely didn't send them, and that is to say there may be a chance that "Turtle Guy" saved the images from twitter and from there managed to put them into Photoshop and do his work from there (or let his friend do his work, to be honest, I have no clue XD)
    That's all I got to say, so please don't fill the comment section with any hate towards Archesuchus or Beaver please, thanks ^^

    • @marcopaulo_
      @marcopaulo_ Месяц назад

      The turtle guy is a friend of archosuchus. How do we know? Well his friend contacted forrest right? And he had a dog in his pfp. That dog is identical to archesuchus dog

  • @hexa995
    @hexa995 Месяц назад +1

    Miss seeing you bro.

  • @wiili22
    @wiili22 Месяц назад

    Beaver theorys are the best thing thats ever happened to me

  • @adelfaflores1828
    @adelfaflores1828 Месяц назад

    Game theory has now become beaver theory

  • @actionthinking7529
    @actionthinking7529 Месяц назад

    I think you did a good job on this theory Beaver! You demonstrate an actor who has means (technical skill and a puppet), motive (a dislike of Forrest and wanting to get attention for their art), and oppertunity (the culprit made the oppertunity by reaching out to Forrest and having the reference photos). More than that, you circumstanceal evidence connecting the masked person and Archesuches (the turtles), and show that only Archesuches had the opportunity to make the fake photos as only they had them at the time they were made. Also, how would Archesuches know about the video so fast, plus that the fakes used their doll? Why didn’t they give a specific example of how they used the doll photos as a base? It seems possible that they were trying to stir up intrest in their connection to the photos, starting an ARG (which they are known for creating) and bringing deserved praise to their art. Further more, the masked person and Archesuches do look and sound similar (young people with back hair and a middle/deep voice).
    The final question I would have was how much would be motivated by artistic intent, wanting to gain clout, wanting to prank Forrest, wanting to bring him down a peg and reveal his poor standards, or were they perhaps working together to produce drama, content, and traffic for both?

  • @Fakegakupo
    @Fakegakupo Месяц назад

    Close enough, welcome back matpat

  • @MagnoBallsWired
    @MagnoBallsWired Месяц назад

    Hi Gaming Beaver! Big fan!

  • @ebragamings1516
    @ebragamings1516 Месяц назад +1

    Is there going to be a chaos theory live stream

  • @surviveeverything4291
    @surviveeverything4291 Месяц назад +1

    Beaver I don't get it, we have the face of the zack guy, atleast I do because in the premiere the forgot to blur his face in 4 frames, which they later did, but I have the screenshots

  • @emmalinejett3620
    @emmalinejett3620 Месяц назад

    Can’t wait for you to review more theories on 🦕🦕Jurassic World Chaos Theory🦖🦖

  • @Dako948
    @Dako948 Месяц назад +1

    On archesuchus' youtube channel his voice is revealed, I don't see too much similarities unless he uses a voice changer

    • @marcopaulo_
      @marcopaulo_ Месяц назад

      Zak is not archosuchus, he is the friend of archosuchus

  • @spawn2414
    @spawn2414 Месяц назад +2

    Forrest just really wants the Tasmanian tiger to be alive

    • @NormanF62
      @NormanF62 Месяц назад

      All of us would like proof it still exists. I mean if this guy shot 12 photos, he could’ve taken a video. Which would be hard to fake.

  • @alejandroherreravargas7879
    @alejandroherreravargas7879 Месяц назад

    I’ll watch this video as many times as it’s reuploaded, gotta support the homie

  • @johannmller3926
    @johannmller3926 21 день назад

    This is an awesome video Beaver :)

  • @thaviongovender2218
    @thaviongovender2218 Месяц назад

    bro its been like a month since i last watched ur vids tf happened when i was gone when did you shave

  • @angelga5381
    @angelga5381 Месяц назад +1

    gaming beaver became a theorys

  • @JamalsNotSoSmol812
    @JamalsNotSoSmol812 Месяц назад

    What’s up Beaver!?! How is your weekend going so far?

  • @FISH-196
    @FISH-196 Месяц назад +1

    Why do we have beaver theory now 😂

  • @Shadowgamer0119
    @Shadowgamer0119 Месяц назад +1

    Hi I love your channel

  • @kyojuro_t3mpest
    @kyojuro_t3mpest Месяц назад

    I wanna see Beaver react to Weird Birds now

  • @zorruiz
    @zorruiz Месяц назад +1

    Brooklyn is alive you were right I saw the end in episode 10 she was missing a arm and cut her hair but she is alive

  • @greerg5987
    @greerg5987 Месяц назад +1

    You didnt sound like you were mocking Forrest at all haha. To me it was very clear you were mocking the turtle guy lmao

  • @memes4all857
    @memes4all857 Месяц назад

    There should be a finding the Real Beaver found footage thing

  • @AKayani559
    @AKayani559 Месяц назад

    Imagine his new video is I caught the tylacine

  • @hisbarefootangel
    @hisbarefootangel Месяц назад

    I love how james thinks.

  • @raging_rathalos9979
    @raging_rathalos9979 Месяц назад +1

    when you realize beaver is a very logical person and not just the funny british beaver..

  • @saintcanonostudios891
    @saintcanonostudios891 Месяц назад

    I havent seen beaver debunking something before! Well done!❤

  • @deztroyes1796
    @deztroyes1796 Месяц назад

    are you gonna post on the new omega raids on jw alive

  • @ian.r5261
    @ian.r5261 Месяц назад

    "Beaver points the finger of suspicion to Archesuchus"