Ain't that the truth! If you want to test the concept, outside of the bounds of a personal relationship, just buy any car made by GM in the past 15 years or so, and you will know the truth.
OMG… thank you so much! My car just did ‘Engine Disabled’ while trying to speed up to merge this morning! I was stuck on the side of the road on the interstate for over an hour! Thanks to this video, a temporary fix and made it safety back home!
Thanks for putting this video up. I broke down in my malibu an hour away from home last night all alone. I found this video when I searched the symptoms and this is EXACTLY what my car was doing and EXACTLY what was wrong with it. I was able to do a temporary fix right there to make it home. Life saver. Thanks so much
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I had a crack in the copper band under the fuse box. Had it soldered 3 yrs ago. Havent had a problem since. Acted like the battery was dead. Starter wouldnt do anything but had bright headlights. A mechanic out in California told me what to look for. Sure enough. He has ran into this many times.
You my friend are a blessing because I was doing my morning commute when all of a sudden my car shut off I sat inside of my car watching your video did everything you did and found the exact same problem where the gasket went into the throttle body pulled it out and I was on my way to finish the repair. Thank you so much!
I just broke down on the side of the road with same lights and engine disabled light. I watched your video while waiting for my 2011 Malibu to be towed. So I checked the hacker on my intake. And that was it!! Pulled it out and cancelled tow and pulled away. Thank you very much!!
Thank you so much for this!!! My son was stranded almost 2 hours away from home and this is exactly what happened! He had it towed thinking his engine went out and we had it running in less than 30 mins
We owned a 2009 Malibu. Ran it up to 190k miles with minimal repairs and all the regular maintenance. Gave it my brother, he drove it for another 15-20k. Gave it to our niece and it now has 230-240k miles with pretty minimal repairs and all the regular maintenance. Pretty good car actually.
Thank you so much! Was headed home 2AM and this happened. Had to tow it back home the next day n was thinking I needed a new motor. Thanks a million buddy!
I had a customers vehicle with the exact same issue, it was an 07 Malibu, was just at Chevrolet for some service work and shut down on the freeway. In this case, the throttle body had ingested the entire rubber gasket,lol. Tried to get just the rubber, but it is a non serviceable item. GM wanted $235 for a new resonator assembly, found one at a local salvage yard for $50, same procedure as what you did, a bit of silicone paste, and it was back on the road again. Thanks for the awesome content Ivan, keep em coming.
Thank you for this video, I thought my car was DONE but I looked under the cover and BOOM the exact same issue. Took out the gasket and it fixed it. Much love my G
The last time i checked that gasket was part of the whole engine cover over $200. Happened to mine i went to the parts store and bought a $5 cold air intake reducer adapter and put it on there. Mine has 134k on it and only consumes less than 1 qt in 5k miles using Mobil 1 its whole life.
Your video helped so much as my car did the same thing and died on the side of the road. I loosened the air intake after the MAF sensor and manhandle the engine cover off. Rubber was stuck in the throttle. I pulled it out and it cranked up but died. I removed the MAF sensor and the car drove well enough to get me home. Ordered a performance air intake since that part is so expensive from dorman.
Crappy design of a part that needs to come on and off hundreds of times. The cover needs to be designed to easily come off, even by people who don't work for GM.
@@HouseCallAutoRepair It also prevents testing anything with cover taken off even temporarily, as we can see in this video. Crappy design, whatever the original intent of its designers was. If they really thougth the cover was so crucial and didn't want it to be discarded they could make it so that the intake pipe is held in place by the cover - but still leave the possibility to attach (without properly securing in place) the intake pipe without the cover mounted. But the best design is to not overcomplicate things that don't need to be complicated in the first place. Also, if the cover is eliminated because someone breaks it - this design forces you to buy a new one, while it is acutally not needed for anything except aestethics. Some engines even today don't have the cover at all.
@@HouseCallAutoRepair The cover is not an essential part and the logo will only ever be seen outside the the dealership in a video like this so if owners whant to discard it it should be at their discression, Stupid sullotion.
Having worked on the 2010 2.4 engine more than I'd like to admit, I'd say you were mighty brave to take the first test drive without topping off the oil, knowing you would be blamed for any engine disasters that occurred during your drive. Thanks for the quick diagnosis; that's a new one on me. For gluing gaskets together, 3-M sells a special primer (3M Scotch-Weld Instant Adhesive Primer AC79) for priming rubber parts, and a special CA glue to use with that primer. I have an idea that the primer works with any C/A glue, but the primer helps. If you look at the MSDS you will find that it is a 99% acetone mixture, which may mean that regular acetone would work as well, but I doubt it - must be a secret ingredient in the mix somewhere.
I just did an 06 Malibu ecotec with 141000 on it that jumped time and bent 8 exhaust valves. The statement that manufactures make that timing chains last for the life of the engine is correct because when the chain or tensioner fails the life of the engine is over. Nice video
"Hey boss, The dealers are bitching because they aren't getting enough service work" " Ok son, heres what we do, first, lets make the intake manifold out of plastic, then bolt it to our aluminum block. The we can put a big plastic cover over the whole thong so the heat can't escape. The thermal shock ought to freak the parts out and cause leaks, then the dealer can take the owners to the cleaner." " Wow, now i see why you are the boss" 😂😂😂😂
I liked the optimism you showed when you glued the rubber gasket together and reinstalled it with anti-seize, and then said "Let's crank it up and take it for a spin." Last time I saw the "engine disabled" money light on a GM V-8, the oil pump had apparently failed while on a trip out of town, triggering the money light, and it cost quite a bit to get the light cut off (and the oil pump allegedly replaced) at the nearest dealership.
I had one Malibu that died at 140k miles, the transmission went. Very smooth car! Other one I had over 200k. These are used as beaters by teens nowadays and are all dented up and trashed. 2.4l uses a lot of oil in my experience.
THIS WAS MY EXACT ISSUE!! Mine was in a Pontiac G6. That damn rubber piece is sold with that entire plastic engine cover for $300 at the dealer. Junk yard, here I come! Thanks for the video!
Great teaching video, including the bonus footage. I'm wondering if the rubber grommet got torn following a TAC motor replacement from a salvage yard, there was an un-factory-like yellow crayon marking on the TAC motor. (I think it was L 7). Keep up the great work. Craig
Great video Ivan. You can use the scan tool to keep the throttle body open while cleaning. I use industrial swabs for cleaning throttle bodys. Then I do the relearn procedure and it's good. But with those codes you had. I would recommend a new throttle body and do the relearn. I had it happen on a Saturn outlook a week ago. A shop tried cleaning without having someone hold the throttle open by foot with koeo. Then their scan tool wouldn't do the relearn. It was quick and easy lol.
With 174k on the vehicle, I would be surprised if the original CV joints weren't ready for changing. That is a lot of revolutions, and they aren't like U joints, with bearings inside them that hardly move. Those CV joints live a hard life, getting twisted around a lot in all kind of directions. Not to mention, if even a tiny bit of road salt got inside them, look out. Even fresh water will wash the lighter fractions of the grease out of them, given enough time. That is what happened to my old 2000 Expedition with the ball joints. All 4 rubber boots were torn up from turning. Water transformed the little grease left inside into solid goo. Even then, the ball joints were barely worn after 140k miles. The cheap Chinese ones I put in won't last that long. Then again, you don't need great parts, when you only drive about a thousand miles a year. Love the videos.
OIl Life Indicator; this absolutely is ridiculous. People rarely if ever reset at ( if ) oil is changed. Did you know, seriously, people TRULY believe that it ties into the actual engine and it's oil level AND condition?!! They do. Kudo's to the ol Chevy running that many miles and still hanging together. I work in Auto Retail, most ever hood that is popped is low on Fluid Levels. They want to know - '" Can you clear the light "---The What?!- I feel like saying,.. How about, oh, I don't know, opening your hood 1-2 x a Year and do some MAINTENANCE. Good Video Ivan.
Farm Rules: If it doesn't move and it should, WD-40; If it moves and it shouldn't, Duct Tape. RTV is just liquid Duct Tape. Good analysis and repair on the car.
It's good to see you Ivan. I agree with everyone that's a terrible design of an engine cover. Unfortunately an inexperienced person manhandled that cover one too many times. The car is in need of some basic preventive maintenance. Take care of your car and your car will take care of you. As usual an awesome Russian repair!!!
Hey ivan, nice video. I see those rubber gasket tear all the time from mishandled or improper seating or installations. Especially with fancy plastic covers, silicone would be best option for use.! Nice video! Malibu suffers from bad axles, it's common problem. I've replaced one or two of those when they start to shimmy. Bad design by GM. Oh well. Many thumbs up!!!
Ivan I had that same wobble on my Chrysler Van. We took off the wheel and observed the axle turning slowly. It was bent maybe 1/16 of an inch. I got a new axle and the wobble went away. I would not use a rebuilt axle.
Some good some bad. First the good. Great job in getting the problem diagnosed, great job in temporarily patching the defective gasket. Now comes the sketchy parts. Car should have beed scheduled for replacing the throttle body gasket. Patch is not going to last forever. Wheel wobble problem was not finished. Fix or replace the wheel. CV joint. Needs further diagnosis. Traction control issue was not investigated. Should have looked further. Little problems are easy to fix. Big problems are expensive to fix. This car *only* has 175k miles on it. It should go at least 250k. Better to pay a mechanic to properly service it than to make payments.
I would say the last person tore it during installation. Likely didn't tear itself. Guess its an engine protect so you don't grenade it during startup?
Appreciate for the video I see too many people say same thing happen and that’s what happen to me also this morning & watched your video and I checked that and found same thing just got it fix.
My understanding is never open the butterfly by hand to clean the TB cause it will screw it up. I turn the ignition on and put a brick on the gas peddle am I wasting my time or what's your thoughts
Well, it's kind of obvious the way the engine cover installs, coming in on an angle could have easily contributed to the gasket tear, especially when you can't visually see it and can only go by feel. Smart idea pre-lubing for some added assurance. Did you replace or repair only?
Crazy, I had the same exact thing happen to a Saturn Aura I bought from auction years ago. I got it for $600 as a non runner with the same engine disabled and throttle body codes. The same rubber gasket was jammed in the throttle body.
The code p2121 may lead u in direction need for code 2121 it's fault with accelerator pedal sensor may be reason engine is disabled because of a safety feature
I'm betting it isn't far off from needing a wheel bearing. My 09 did something similar before I ended up with a howling or roaring noise at highway speeds. It took about 6 months of looking for problems and trying to figure out what was rubbing the tires before it made a bunch of clunking and grinding noises. At that point it was obvious (and scary) when I jacked the wheel off the ground. It has one of those sealed one piece bearings with a non serviceable wheel speed sensor in it. The wheel flopped around pretty easily and I'm not sure why it stayed on the car.
Last time I jacked a car like that and did that kind of testing I forgot to roll down the window and the car locked on me with the key in it. Lol. Had to call the customer and ask if they had another key...all the while it's running on jack stands. I had a 2007 Impala that had a shimmy under load...turned out to the be the CV shaft. Could feel the play in the inner joint just as you described. Also found a trashed side engine mount.
@@TheCrazy243 I thought about buying something like that. Most likely if it happened again I'd have everything I need except for every car but the one I'd need it for. I decided it was easier to roll the window down on every vehicle and just not do it again! Vehicles that auto lock the doors at a certain speed will get you!
Every time I say the internet is inherently bad, in steps a "life saving" video. Before I even finished typing the car symptoms into google it auto finished the wording due to this video. I had the luxury of being a block away from work where we have a key programmer that can do basic code reading and it showed the same P2101 code that came up on your scan tool. And also code P1516 came up for mine if that makes a difference for anyone in the future. Anyway, thanks for the video. My new grommet is on order and I gently drove my car back home after getting that piece out. Thanks for the bonus footage as well. Insightful! I will probably use that knowledge in the future.
My brother had a Kia Optima about 10 years back, with about 85,000 miles he religiously changed the oil. Cam shaft seal blew out behind the sprocket, took the plastic engine cover and cam cover off. Engine totally sludged up solid. Including the screen on the oil pump. Wore out the front camshaft Journal and blew out the seal. Found a 1 year newer engine at salvage yard, noticed the engine cover was about 1/4 the size of the other cover. I think the engine just cooked itself. After that if its possible I take the cover off and throw it away. Just to make things look good, factory doesn't care if the engines ruined.
I was thinking maybe unmetered air from the torn boot was causing some actual drivability symptoms but maybe not. As far as the shimmy, I was also thinking trans torque converter shudder but it sounds more driveline related as you are saying.
I've got a relevant inner CV joint story for you, maybe it will make you smile. We had a 1st generation Chrysler LH car, base model Intrepid 3.3 specifically. A seller I frequently bought from on fleaBay that sold store returns, Etc. had a complete brand new not reman passenger side half shaft for a 2nd gen LH car and it was dirt cheap and getting no bids so I bought it to have a just-in-case spare. The only difference between 1st and 2nd gen here is the style of the ABS tone ring, but my car didn't have ABS so it didn't matter. Oddly enough a few months to a year later the car developed that characteristic shake under load and it was that passenger side inner joint that had failed. The needles came out of the roller bearing of one of the tripod rollers. No leaked grease or torn boots. I just found it an odd yet very much in my favor coincidence that it happened this way.
I had a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee do the same thing with the throttle but it was cable and it happened going down the road. Let’s just say the engine was not disabled on it
The second you told us the symptoms i guessed it would be something electromechanical in either the throttle body or the throttle pedal. But i was thinking bad potentiometer, or a bad stepper motor. Would not have guessed it was the rubber gasket, but looking at that design i can see how that could easily become a problem. If that gasket becomes stuck on the throttle body it looks like you can't get access to gently pry it off, thus it gets ripped when someone yanks that whole assembly off. Bit of a stupid design.
8:48 you could fix the rubber gasket with silicone ( you can get heat resistant silicone ) But that's a 24 hour fix, some one has put the cover on that engine and jumped on it to get it on
I have a diesel croma the air filter pipe is stitched with cable ties and sealed with hot glue proper Russian repair because the part is £150 and it runs good with that so that’s how it’s staying
When I'm working on ANY car, the only thing I look for is any actual oil on the stick. Even old oil will still lubricate. Doesn't mean I won't HEAVILY recommend an oil change if I see fit tho. Ivan had oil on the stick, so what ever was going to be damaged, probably already was.
Now that's a message I'd love to see at the dealership when the vehicle is new. ENGINE DISABLED. Maybe then I would've bought something else instead of my '07 Silverado LEMON, lol. 😁 An easy fix at least. That's good! I've never seen that gasket fail like that before. That was interesting. Someone probably jammed the thing on there with no lube. Whenever I mount and balance tires here, I've had brand new tires wiggle like that, with no wobble from the rim at all. They always balance out ok, though, unless there's a structural defect. I had one brand new $190 truck Blizzak that had a defective bead! It was "V" shaped! Couldn't hold air if you wanted it to. Tire Rack was pretty good, and had a new one here in 12 hours! I haven't bought tires from them in a long time, since they're no longer the bargain they once were. Been finding big names selling on eBay, and other sites that have had great prices. Now with sales tax being charged, the bargains are few and far between. Nice hearing the peepers! They've disappeared early up here, since we can't seem to get out of the 30's for more than a couple hours lately. Been a crappy couple weeks weather wise up here. Was nice and warm early, then it all went to crap! 🤢
Love the sound of frogs chirping. I think the belts on the tire were damaged when they hit something and damaged the rim. Even with the bad ding in the rim edge, it looked like it was still running mostly true, but that tire was not. Iv'e had the same problem with vibration on acceleration between 40 and 50. When the inner joint get's bad enough it vibrate just maintaining speed, YUP I'm that guy that waits until it's that bad. LOL Doesn't take too long putting 200 miles per day though driving to and from work.
Check front brake rotor runout on both sides and possibly rears if has rear disk. I've also seen very rusted and falling apart rotors show up as shimmy or vibrations.
New intake, valve cover, ETB, MAF, and a set of chains every 100k baby 😂😂😂 Induction service every 30k Great video Ivan, be careful putting fingers in them ETB's when connected, they can bite from time to time 😉👍...not trying to be critical, jusr wanted to give you heads up. Love them 2.4L money makers...such an easy engine to work on.
I'm pretty sure wording adding lubricant to lower friction as spraying something inside to help it slide so you don't get too much shear tearing forces made it sound worse. To quote Eric O. whenever he does or says something along those lines: "Oh, Baby"
Advance level auto has a great video on these no crank no start malibus a broken copper wire under the engine fuse box just about any no crank no start at least something to look at and appreciate the videos
Mine wont start 2010 malibu 2.4 lt says it's running lean and then goes in to power reduce mode I look for leaks vacuum leaks cant find any now car wont start
I had a vibration on acceleration uphill, turned out to be dirty injectors. over time I changed tires, u-joints, even replaced the wheels, hated the wire hubcaps, never could get rid of it. One day the BG rep came in the shop, so he did the demo on my car, a 1984 mustang 3.8l, and vibration was unexpectedly gone, so we started doing injector cleaning because of that. Oh I never put cheap gas in it again, or any of my vehicles.
I was thinking at the beginning either electrical issue with the throttle body/wiring or mechanical (stuck) issue with the plate. Funny the engineers designed that so the engine would not even crank to prevent starting. I have to wonder if the oil consumption issue starts with the piston rings being low tension rings to reduce friction to meet fuel mileage. I've never had one of those motors apart, wonder if they have oil return holes in the pistons? Saturn did that with the S-Series motors and had a few issues with it (no oil return holes). It seems this may have other issues if it only gets 19 mpg. Maybe a bum thermostat? I'm curious if maybe that may have been pulling unmetered air into the engine bypassing the MAF?
My car is doing the same thing as the one you had in the video but there was no rubber or anything caught in between the throttle body what else could be keeping it from not starting. PLEASE ADVISE !!!
You always have to be careful when putting on your rubber.
Nobody likes going home in limp mode!
Just have to spray something to the inside to help it slide so you don't get too much shear tearing forces
god one
Ain't that the truth! If you want to test the concept, outside of the bounds of a personal relationship, just buy any car made by GM in the past 15 years or so, and you will know the truth.
Brilliant!! Just Brilliant.
OMG… thank you so much! My car just did ‘Engine Disabled’ while trying to speed up to merge this morning! I was stuck on the side of the road on the interstate for over an hour! Thanks to this video, a temporary fix and made it safety back home!
Thanks for putting this video up. I broke down in my malibu an hour away from home last night all alone. I found this video when I searched the symptoms and this is EXACTLY what my car was doing and EXACTLY what was wrong with it. I was able to do a temporary fix right there to make it home. Life saver. Thanks so much
That's awesome Sandra! 😁
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I had a crack in the copper band under the fuse box. Had it soldered 3 yrs ago. Havent had a problem since. Acted like the battery was dead. Starter wouldnt do anything but had bright headlights. A mechanic out in California told me what to look for. Sure enough. He has ran into this many times.
Same here now my question is can I drive it again or what’s next ??
You my friend are a blessing because I was doing my morning commute when all of a sudden my car shut off I sat inside of my car watching your video did everything you did and found the exact same problem where the gasket went into the throttle body pulled it out and I was on my way to finish the repair. Thank you so much!
I just broke down on the side of the road with same lights and engine disabled light. I watched your video while waiting for my 2011 Malibu to be towed. So I checked the hacker on my intake. And that was it!! Pulled it out and cancelled tow and pulled away. Thank you very much!!
Thank you so much for this!!! My son was stranded almost 2 hours away from home and this is exactly what happened! He had it towed thinking his engine went out and we had it running in less than 30 mins
AMAZING! Great Job!
We owned a 2009 Malibu. Ran it up to 190k miles with minimal repairs and all the regular maintenance. Gave it my brother, he drove it for another 15-20k. Gave it to our niece and it now has 230-240k miles with pretty minimal repairs and all the regular maintenance. Pretty good car actually.
6:38 well theres your problem lady!
I said the same thing... in Dr. Eric's voice.
Thank you so much! Was headed home 2AM and this happened. Had to tow it back home the next day n was thinking I needed a new motor. Thanks a million buddy!
I had a customers vehicle with the exact same issue, it was an 07 Malibu, was just at Chevrolet for some service work and shut down on the freeway. In this case, the throttle body had ingested the entire rubber gasket,lol. Tried to get just the rubber, but it is a non serviceable item. GM wanted $235 for a new resonator assembly, found one at a local salvage yard for $50, same procedure as what you did, a bit of silicone paste, and it was back on the road again. Thanks for the awesome content Ivan, keep em coming.
I was on the side of the highway and I was able to get back on the road thank you!!!
Thank you for this video, I thought my car was DONE but I looked under the cover and BOOM the exact same issue. Took out the gasket and it fixed it. Much love my G
The last time i checked that gasket was part of the whole engine cover over $200. Happened to mine i went to the parts store and bought a $5 cold air intake reducer adapter and put it on there. Mine has 134k on it and only consumes less than 1 qt in 5k miles using Mobil 1 its whole life.
Your video helped so much as my car did the same thing and died on the side of the road. I loosened the air intake after the MAF sensor and manhandle the engine cover off. Rubber was stuck in the throttle. I pulled it out and it cranked up but died. I removed the MAF sensor and the car drove well enough to get me home. Ordered a performance air intake since that part is so expensive from dorman.
Crappy design of a part that needs to come on and off hundreds of times. The cover needs to be designed to easily come off, even by people who don't work for GM.
People have a tendency to break and discard these covers... So, making it an intregal part of the intake prevents it's being eliminated.
@@HouseCallAutoRepair It also prevents testing anything with cover taken off even temporarily, as we can see in this video. Crappy design, whatever the original intent of its designers was. If they really thougth the cover was so crucial and didn't want it to be discarded they could make it so that the intake pipe is held in place by the cover - but still leave the possibility to attach (without properly securing in place) the intake pipe without the cover mounted.
But the best design is to not overcomplicate things that don't need to be complicated in the first place.
Also, if the cover is eliminated because someone breaks it - this design forces you to buy a new one, while it is acutally not needed for anything except aestethics. Some engines even today don't have the cover at all.
@@HouseCallAutoRepair The cover is not an essential part and the logo will only ever be seen outside the the dealership in a video like this so if owners whant to discard it it should be at their discression, Stupid sullotion.
Gotta love these engineers right? Sometimes I’m still amazed.
@@HouseCallAutoRepair break the cover and chinamotors will sell you another piece of garbage
Having worked on the 2010 2.4 engine more than I'd like to admit, I'd say you were mighty brave to take the first test drive without topping off the oil, knowing you would be blamed for any engine disasters that occurred during your drive. Thanks for the quick diagnosis; that's a new one on me. For gluing gaskets together, 3-M sells a special primer (3M Scotch-Weld Instant Adhesive Primer AC79) for priming rubber parts, and a special CA glue to use with that primer. I have an idea that the primer works with any C/A glue, but the primer helps. If you look at the MSDS you will find that it is a 99% acetone mixture, which may mean that regular acetone would work as well, but I doubt it - must be a secret ingredient in the mix somewhere.
I just did an 06 Malibu ecotec with 141000 on it that jumped time and bent 8 exhaust valves. The statement that manufactures make that timing chains last for the life of the engine is correct because when the chain or tensioner fails the life of the engine is over. Nice video
As soon as I saw 'ecotec' on the engine cover I thought🤔....'NO!!..RUN AWAY as fast as you can Ivan'..Lol..😜👍🇦🇺
"Hey boss, The dealers are bitching because they aren't getting enough service work" " Ok son, heres what we do, first, lets make the intake manifold out of plastic, then bolt it to our aluminum block. The we can put a big plastic cover over the whole thong so the heat can't escape. The thermal shock ought to freak the parts out and cause leaks, then the dealer can take the owners to the cleaner." " Wow, now i see why you are the boss" 😂😂😂😂
I liked the optimism you showed when you glued the rubber gasket together and reinstalled it with anti-seize, and then said "Let's crank it up and take it for a spin." Last time I saw the "engine disabled" money light on a GM V-8, the oil pump had apparently failed while on a trip out of town, triggering the money light, and it cost quite a bit to get the light cut off (and the oil pump allegedly replaced) at the nearest dealership.
I had one Malibu that died at 140k miles, the transmission went. Very smooth car! Other one I had over 200k. These are used as beaters by teens nowadays and are all dented up and trashed. 2.4l uses a lot of oil in my experience.
THIS WAS MY EXACT ISSUE!! Mine was in a Pontiac G6. That damn rubber piece is sold with that entire plastic engine cover for $300 at the dealer. Junk yard, here I come!
Thanks for the video!
GM went kooky with that humongus engine cover!
GM is kooky, to say it nicely, really just idiots
At 6:39, I half expected a "There's your problem, lady!"
Thank you Ivan! For the bonus part check for bent front discs brakes and check if the calipers slider are stuck and dry,
9:00 How to fix rubber? Rubber Glue! Old inner tubes and tire patch kit are useful common tools for rubber repairs.
Great teaching video, including the bonus footage. I'm wondering if the rubber grommet got torn following a TAC motor replacement from a salvage yard, there was an un-factory-like yellow crayon marking on the TAC motor. (I think it was L 7). Keep up the great work. Craig
Good eye, Craig! Anything is possible...
Great video Ivan. You can use the scan tool to keep the throttle body open while cleaning. I use industrial swabs for cleaning throttle bodys. Then I do the relearn procedure and it's good. But with those codes you had. I would recommend a new throttle body and do the relearn. I had it happen on a Saturn outlook a week ago. A shop tried cleaning without having someone hold the throttle open by foot with koeo. Then their scan tool wouldn't do the relearn. It was quick and easy lol.
Never seen that b4, thanks for sharing Ivan!
With 174k on the vehicle, I would be surprised if the original CV joints weren't ready for changing. That is a lot of revolutions, and they aren't like U joints, with bearings inside them that hardly move. Those CV joints live a hard life, getting twisted around a lot in all kind of directions. Not to mention, if even a tiny bit of road salt got inside them, look out. Even fresh water will wash the lighter fractions of the grease out of them, given enough time. That is what happened to my old 2000 Expedition with the ball joints. All 4 rubber boots were torn up from turning. Water transformed the little grease left inside into solid goo. Even then, the ball joints were barely worn after 140k miles. The cheap Chinese ones I put in won't last that long. Then again, you don't need great parts, when you only drive about a thousand miles a year.
Love the videos.
OIl Life Indicator; this absolutely is ridiculous. People rarely if ever reset at ( if ) oil is changed. Did you know, seriously, people TRULY believe that it ties into the actual engine and it's oil level AND condition?!! They do. Kudo's to the ol Chevy running that many miles and still hanging together. I work in Auto Retail, most ever hood that is popped is low on Fluid Levels. They want to know -
'" Can you clear the light "---The What?!- I feel like saying,.. How about, oh, I don't know, opening your hood 1-2 x a Year and do some MAINTENANCE. Good Video Ivan.
Farm Rules: If it doesn't move and it should, WD-40; If it moves and it shouldn't, Duct Tape. RTV is just liquid Duct Tape.
Good analysis and repair on the car.
Go Ivan. The best mind in auto repair!
It's good to see you Ivan. I agree with everyone that's a terrible design of an engine cover. Unfortunately an inexperienced person manhandled that cover one too many times. The car is in need of some basic preventive maintenance. Take care of your car and your car will take care of you. As usual an awesome Russian repair!!!
They forgot the "BUY A NEW CAR SOON!" message!
Ya that be ideal
That is implied by the "chevrolet" label. LOL
Carlos Moreira GM and there top quality display messages LOL that’s a shit design
@@on-site4094 haha ya
they forgot the "should have bought a toyota" message!
Hey ivan, nice video. I see those rubber gasket tear all the time from mishandled or improper seating or installations. Especially with fancy plastic covers, silicone would be best option for use.! Nice video! Malibu suffers from bad axles, it's common problem. I've replaced one or two of those when they start to shimmy. Bad design by GM. Oh well. Many thumbs up!!!
Enjoyed the video, as usual.... It is informative and didactic for the less knowledge or experienced viewers.
Thank you for entertaining us Ivan.
Thank you for your support, Odin!
Great video just happened to me about 2 hours ago your video helped a lot got it fixed & now it’s driving back to normal thank you so much
Ivan I had that same wobble on my Chrysler Van. We took off the wheel and observed the axle turning slowly. It was bent maybe 1/16 of an inch. I got a new axle and the wobble went away. I would not use a rebuilt axle.
It's nice to come across an easy fix once in a while.
Awesome case study showing the importance of checking the basics. See you soon Ivan, you're awesome 👍
Just replaced my cv shafts on my 02 buick for that exact reason. Fixed the problem.
Love those "simple" problems. LOL ! Thanks for the vid, great job.
Ivan got the ol' snappy out for this one. I assume you didn't have the Thinkcar Pros yet!
Some good some bad.
First the good. Great job in getting the problem diagnosed, great job in temporarily patching the defective gasket.
Now comes the sketchy parts.
Car should have beed scheduled for replacing the throttle body gasket.
Patch is not going to last forever.
Wheel wobble problem was not finished. Fix or replace the wheel.
CV joint. Needs further diagnosis.
Traction control issue was not investigated. Should have looked further. Little problems are easy to fix. Big problems are expensive to fix.
This car *only* has 175k miles on it. It should go at least 250k. Better to pay a mechanic to properly service it than to make payments.
I totally agree with TS. Operator error.
I would say the last person tore it during installation. Likely didn't tear itself. Guess its an engine protect so you don't grenade it during startup?
Ya probably
Goes to prove a little rubber is not always a good idea
Appreciate for the video I see too many people say same thing happen and that’s what happen to me also this morning & watched your video and I checked that and found same thing just got it fix.
My understanding is never open the butterfly by hand to clean the TB cause it will screw it up. I turn the ignition on and put a brick on the gas peddle am I wasting my time or what's your thoughts
Well, it's kind of obvious the way the engine cover installs, coming in on an angle could have easily contributed to the gasket tear, especially when you can't visually see it and can only go by feel. Smart idea pre-lubing for some added assurance. Did you replace or repair only?
Great vlog, human error code not displaying 🤗🤗🤗🤗.
Thanks for sharing Ivan.
Stay safe all.
Yeah! You're back!
Crazy, I had the same exact thing happen to a Saturn Aura I bought from auction years ago. I got it for $600 as a non runner with the same engine disabled and throttle body codes. The same rubber gasket was jammed in the throttle body.
Nice haha
Glad you left in the camera accident. Made me laugh!
The code p2121 may lead u in direction need for code 2121 it's fault with accelerator pedal sensor may be reason engine is disabled because of a safety feature
Get the wheels balanced first and by the way repair the rims as well. No big deal for steel rims
I'm betting it isn't far off from needing a wheel bearing. My 09 did something similar before I ended up with a howling or roaring noise at highway speeds.
It took about 6 months of looking for problems and trying to figure out what was rubbing the tires before it made a bunch of clunking and grinding noises. At that point it was obvious (and scary) when I jacked the wheel off the ground. It has one of those sealed one piece bearings with a non serviceable wheel speed sensor in it. The wheel flopped around pretty easily and I'm not sure why it stayed on the car.
Shimming wheels cause premature wheel bearing failure. So yeah, I would go and find a second hand wheel.
Shiverlay- shivers in the road, lays in the garage. Really old one, like me 😜
Superglue to the rescue !
A beauty cover with a built in hemhlotz baffle and wear items that cannot be bought separately,no wonder why toyota is the # 1 car manufacturer.
liquid electrical tape works good on things like that rubber for a temporary repair
Last time I jacked a car like that and did that kind of testing I forgot to roll down the window and the car locked on me with the key in it. Lol. Had to call the customer and ask if they had another key...all the while it's running on jack stands.
I had a 2007 Impala that had a shimmy under load...turned out to the be the CV shaft. Could feel the play in the inner joint just as you described. Also found a trashed side engine mount.
haha that's a little embarassing xD
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Yeah, after that EVERY car has the window rolled down as soon as it comes in the garage. Won't do that again!
johnaclark1 get a locksmith kit!!! Sorry you had to go through that. My uncle did it. Locked while engine running. He was panicked and all. Lol
@@TheCrazy243 I thought about buying something like that. Most likely if it happened again I'd have everything I need except for every car but the one I'd need it for. I decided it was easier to roll the window down on every vehicle and just not do it again! Vehicles that auto lock the doors at a certain speed will get you!
@@johnaclark1 That's exactly why I own a lockout kit.
@17:03 What are 'peepers'? Jeez, what a racket! Thought the fan belt was slipping..... :-/
Ya same
Yeah, the timing of that was almost exact . . .
When i saw the codes, im like its the throttle body rubber boot. Already seen that same exact problem on those malibu
HI IVAN , For the rubber gasket fix I use black liquid tape as a temporary repair it go’s hard after some time .
Every time I say the internet is inherently bad, in steps a "life saving" video. Before I even finished typing the car symptoms into google it auto finished the wording due to this video. I had the luxury of being a block away from work where we have a key programmer that can do basic code reading and it showed the same P2101 code that came up on your scan tool. And also code P1516 came up for mine if that makes a difference for anyone in the future. Anyway, thanks for the video. My new grommet is on order and I gently drove my car back home after getting that piece out.
Thanks for the bonus footage as well. Insightful! I will probably use that knowledge in the future.
Glad the video helped you out :)
My brother had a Kia Optima about 10 years back, with about 85,000 miles he religiously changed the oil. Cam shaft seal blew out behind the sprocket, took the plastic engine cover and cam cover off. Engine totally sludged up solid. Including the screen on the oil pump. Wore out the front camshaft Journal and blew out the seal. Found a 1 year newer engine at salvage yard, noticed the engine cover was about 1/4 the size of the other cover. I think the engine just cooked itself. After that if its possible I take the cover off and throw it away. Just to make things look good, factory doesn't care if the engines ruined.
Good catch,,you do fine work,,I love the no parts cannon,,,
Put a few quarts of WTI in his crankcase; you have to pay him to take delivery of the oil :)
WTI ?
@@brianmason1414 West Texas Intermediate crude oil. Went to negative $38.17/barrel briefly 20-Apr.
I was thinking maybe unmetered air from the torn boot was causing some actual drivability symptoms but maybe not. As far as the shimmy, I was also thinking trans torque converter shudder but it sounds more driveline related as you are saying.
I've got a relevant inner CV joint story for you, maybe it will make you smile. We had a 1st generation Chrysler LH car, base model Intrepid 3.3 specifically. A seller I frequently bought from on fleaBay that sold store returns, Etc. had a complete brand new not reman passenger side half shaft for a 2nd gen LH car and it was dirt cheap and getting no bids so I bought it to have a just-in-case spare. The only difference between 1st and 2nd gen here is the style of the ABS tone ring, but my car didn't have ABS so it didn't matter.
Oddly enough a few months to a year later the car developed that characteristic shake under load and it was that passenger side inner joint that had failed. The needles came out of the roller bearing of one of the tripod rollers. No leaked grease or torn boots.
I just found it an odd yet very much in my favor coincidence that it happened this way.
FleaBay haha. You get what you pay for :)
Ivan
Come on and get with the program - its not a 'Chevy' its a SHIV-ra-LAY (in my best Eric O voice)!
Great video - thank you!
God bless
Paul (in MA)
I had a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee do the same thing with the throttle but it was cable and it happened going down the road. Let’s just say the engine was not disabled on it
LOL sounds like unintended acceleration!!
I think the craziness of Staten Island followed you home. LOL
The second you told us the symptoms i guessed it would be something electromechanical in either the throttle body or the throttle pedal. But i was thinking bad potentiometer, or a bad stepper motor. Would not have guessed it was the rubber gasket, but looking at that design i can see how that could easily become a problem. If that gasket becomes stuck on the throttle body it looks like you can't get access to gently pry it off, thus it gets ripped when someone yanks that whole assembly off. Bit of a stupid design.
No parts required ! This car is great budget car !
It's crazy all the codes for a simple fix. Something like torn piece of gasket can cause engine shut down.
Fire the superglue cannon
8:48 you could fix the rubber gasket with silicone ( you can get heat resistant silicone ) But that's a 24 hour fix, some one has put the cover on that engine and jumped on it to get it on
18.7 avg?! Geez!! My 3.6 gets much better even with my lead foot 😂 Great video this was one I never would have guessed!
Someone must have been trying to pull that intake cover off while the clamp was still tight
@5:30 that's where people apparently store extra mice...... giggity
Thanks very helpful was the exact problem wrong with my car
Nice!
Its odd that the TPMS light is not on. 16:45 shows RF and LR are not reading.
I have a diesel croma the air filter pipe is stitched with cable ties and sealed with hot glue proper Russian repair because the part is £150 and it runs good with that so that’s how it’s staying
Terrible design, in answer to your question, if you damage the engine running it without oil it's on you,
Ya and the oil light doesn't even come on like Nissan unless theres nothing left
When I'm working on ANY car, the only thing I look for is any actual oil on the stick. Even old oil will still lubricate. Doesn't mean I won't HEAVILY recommend an oil change if I see fit tho. Ivan had oil on the stick, so what ever was going to be damaged, probably already was.
Yes, Mr Murphy, I've seen Nissan just a 1/2 quart of the stick and the low oil pressure light comes on
@@brianmason1414 ya there the worst
@@brianmason1414 yes that's true anyway it's the customer's fault not his for not checking the oil
Now that's a message I'd love to see at the dealership when the vehicle is new. ENGINE DISABLED. Maybe then I would've bought something else instead of my '07 Silverado LEMON, lol. 😁
An easy fix at least. That's good! I've never seen that gasket fail like that before. That was interesting. Someone probably jammed the thing on there with no lube.
Whenever I mount and balance tires here, I've had brand new tires wiggle like that, with no wobble from the rim at all. They always balance out ok, though, unless there's a structural defect. I had one brand new $190 truck Blizzak that had a defective bead! It was "V" shaped! Couldn't hold air if you wanted it to. Tire Rack was pretty good, and had a new one here in 12 hours! I haven't bought tires from them in a long time, since they're no longer the bargain they once were. Been finding big names selling on eBay, and other sites that have had great prices. Now with sales tax being charged, the bargains are few and far between.
Nice hearing the peepers! They've disappeared early up here, since we can't seem to get out of the 30's for more than a couple hours lately. Been a crappy couple weeks weather wise up here. Was nice and warm early, then it all went to crap! 🤢
Love the sound of frogs chirping.
I think the belts on the tire were damaged when they hit something and damaged the rim. Even with the bad ding in the rim edge, it looked like it was still running mostly true, but that tire was not.
Iv'e had the same problem with vibration on acceleration between 40 and 50. When the inner joint get's bad enough it vibrate just maintaining speed, YUP I'm that guy that waits until it's that bad. LOL Doesn't take too long putting 200 miles per day though driving to and from work.
Check front brake rotor runout on both sides and possibly rears if has rear disk.
I've also seen very rusted and falling apart rotors show up as shimmy or vibrations.
Wow, never seen that before. Nice one Ivan!
New intake, valve cover, ETB, MAF, and a set of chains every 100k baby 😂😂😂
Induction service every 30k
Great video Ivan, be careful putting fingers in them ETB's when connected, they can bite from time to time 😉👍...not trying to be critical, jusr wanted to give you heads up.
Love them 2.4L money makers...such an easy engine to work on.
Another great video. Love you videos, keep them coming
I'm pretty sure wording adding lubricant to lower friction as spraying something inside to help it slide so you don't get too much shear tearing forces made it sound worse. To quote Eric O. whenever he does or says something along those lines: "Oh, Baby"
Advance level auto has a great video on these no crank no start malibus a broken copper wire under the engine fuse box just about any no crank no start at least something to look at and appreciate the videos
curious it didnt need a forced throttle relearn.
Mine wont start 2010 malibu 2.4 lt says it's running lean and then goes in to power reduce mode I look for leaks vacuum leaks cant find any now car wont start
I had a vibration on acceleration uphill, turned out to be dirty injectors. over time I changed tires, u-joints, even replaced the wheels, hated the wire hubcaps, never could get rid of it. One day the BG rep came in the shop, so he did the demo on my car, a 1984 mustang 3.8l, and vibration was unexpectedly gone, so we started doing injector cleaning because of that. Oh I never put cheap gas in it again, or any of my vehicles.
I was thinking at the beginning either electrical issue with the throttle body/wiring or mechanical (stuck) issue with the plate. Funny the engineers designed that so the engine would not even crank to prevent starting. I have to wonder if the oil consumption issue starts with the piston rings being low tension rings to reduce friction to meet fuel mileage. I've never had one of those motors apart, wonder if they have oil return holes in the pistons? Saturn did that with the S-Series motors and had a few issues with it (no oil return holes). It seems this may have other issues if it only gets 19 mpg. Maybe a bum thermostat? I'm curious if maybe that may have been pulling unmetered air into the engine bypassing the MAF?
What a crappy design flaw. Sometimes I’m still surprised when I see this stuff. Sometimes. Thanks for sharing
My car is doing the same thing as the one you had in the video but there was no rubber or anything caught in between the throttle body what else could be keeping it from not starting. PLEASE ADVISE !!!