Yamaha WR250F vs Honda CRF250F vs Honda CRF300L (Enduro vs Trail Bike vs Dual Sport)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025

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  • @skiphalbakken6499
    @skiphalbakken6499 Год назад +6

    Part of the experience of riding is hearing the internal combustion engine. Nice bike and great video. Cheers from 🇺🇸

  • @mickshepherd9329
    @mickshepherd9329 9 месяцев назад +4

    11000 kilometres on my 2017 WR250F nothing spent on the motor.Valves checked at correct intervals never needed adjustment.Never let me down.Had the last engine check at 10000. Leak down;compression;valves were all within 5% of new.Buy a 2 stroke they said.2022 Husky 250 TPI.Cheaper to run and less maintenance they said.Just did 115 hours;2500 kilometres;top end and oil pump;$1200.Just waiting for my 3rd crankcase pressure sensor;2 weeks on back order.Can’t keep up with demand.$220 each.And you get brakes from a push bike for $1000 more than the Yami.Selling and getting another WR250.

  • @rtimetoride7645
    @rtimetoride7645 Год назад +5

    21 Husky TE 300 I. No gas mixing. No valve adjustment. Approximately 60 miles per tank

  • @tigercoward
    @tigercoward Год назад +3

    This is the bike that I should have bought!
    Instead, I bought a Husqvarna TE 250. The mixing oil is no big deal, and the maintenance is a breeze.
    The bike is amazing, and I have had no mechanical issues yet.
    The only downside is that it is stinky, especially when cold.
    Having a dedicated off-road bike is the only way to go!
    Thanks for another great video.

  • @mmdmotosports3613
    @mmdmotosports3613 Год назад +4

    Your WR250F looks great. I have one as well and a KTM 300 XC-W. I think you're right about the WR's suspension being great, feels very planted. I don't think the WR is really more ridable than the KTM though. True, the KTM has more power overall, but the newer ones are essentially fuel injected so the power delivery is very linear and manageable, and useful with no surprises. There is no 2-stroke powerband hit (which some people miss). Also, the KTM is lighter with much better bottom end, making it easier on tight trails and thus not stalling. I've noticed better fuel economy on the KTM as well which does require oil, but it mixes itself and holds enough in its reservoir for hundreds of miles of trails. But I think you're right about the WR's advantage in reliability, even though I haven't had trouble with the KTM yet, and affordability of the WR when buying used - my WR has been bullet proof. My son has a Beta X-Trainer 300, which is lighter and more ridable than anything out there. Enjoy the trails, they look wonderful!

  • @rezkidgamingyt4725
    @rezkidgamingyt4725 2 месяца назад +1

    Let people say what they want these new 2018 and up are a totally new beast I keep up with Ktm 300 xcw and the 250x yz 8:10 you needed to hit that tree with more speed and keep the momentum and as for the air box I love it , it is a weapon in the right hands this bike could win races all day

  • @SquareHelmet
    @SquareHelmet Год назад +4

    Excellent bike! Another one - Yamaha XT250. Yes, it's not up there with WR250F in suspension, etc. But it will do everything you through at it and it's road legal. Single track, super rough single track, forests, trails, dirt and highways too (with windshield, I can do 5-6 hours of highways without too much tiredness). I downsized to XT250 from some big/powerful bikes - and I've never had that much fun on a motorcycle before!

    • @mikelobdell2666
      @mikelobdell2666 Год назад +2

      The xt has it's shortcomings and I'm sure this WR is much more capable but it's small size and trials like handling have taken me many places where dual sports (Japanese dual sports) usually fear to tread.

    • @oknevals
      @oknevals Год назад +1

      Well, Rambo rode XT so, hard to beat that 😄
      Seriously though, I don't think XT is comparable with real dirt bikes. It is kind of weird machine because it is more forgiving for novice but, it requires some serious skills to pull its full potential. It took me too some stupid places that I would never try had I had clue what I was getting into. But, we both miraculously survived, a lil banged up though. The most annoying thing about it is how it suddenly stalls and usually at the worst time and place.

    • @SquareHelmet
      @SquareHelmet Год назад +1

      @@oknevals I used that cool clutch practice from @IRCTireUSAMoto I think when you roll up and down a slope with clutch only. I almost never stall now on any bike!
      I agree: narrow purpose dirt bike will do its thing better, but XT250 won't be far off with the right skills. And when you get out of dirt - you can ride home! When I ride it I feel like I have the ultimate freedom - I ride on a road, see some horrible washed out dirty trails in the forest - and just go there because I know XT will take me there and back. I could never do this on bigger bikes (BMW GS's, even the 650 one I rode years ago). There is nothing on the market that combines 11" ground clearance with 31" seat height, unkillable reliability at about $5K. Anyway, I have 2 bikes and plan to add one more next year (Suzuki 800DE), but XT250 would be the one I'd keep if only could have one.

    • @mikelobdell2666
      @mikelobdell2666 Год назад +1

      @oknevals I had my engine just die without warning maybe three times in 4 years but it was disconcerting. I agree that the high ground clearance and low seat height are a marvel of engineering. Here's a fact for you.. turning radius on my klx is 11 feet on xt 8.

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад +2

      Well said! That's my point about getting off the beaten track. It's so nice to get away from it all. The XT250 will definitely be in the running when my wife Brooke is getting back into riding in a few years. That bike is deceptively capable for being so reasonably priced.

  • @MrNz96
    @MrNz96 Год назад +1

    Owned a 16' wr250f for a year as my 1st bike, and it was a great all arounder except hard enduro and technical stuff

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад +1

      Yep! I tend to do up to intermediate trails so it's the perfect ride for me.

  • @ronny-drz
    @ronny-drz Год назад

    Yamaha TW200 when I want to get out there & tour the woods, lakes & trails - a nice pace to take everything in & bullet proof. Nice video, good choices there for bikes.

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад +2

      Thanks! The TDub is a great bike! at an even better price. I have a neighbour who has one parked in front of his place and it always makes me smile. It's like the motorcycle version of a fat bike.

  • @timwhalen4691
    @timwhalen4691 Год назад

    Thanks
    I had a 03 wr250f and looking for a used wr as we speak.
    Good ones are hard to come by
    I also ride a T7
    Congratulations to you and Brooke

  • @SWTrailsAndWheels
    @SWTrailsAndWheels Год назад +1

    I have a 2019 model. Uncorking is important for more than power. The bike will run without stalling after uncorking and it can be tuned to be smoother off the bottom.

  • @davebewshey1549
    @davebewshey1549 Год назад

    Many bikes later still come back to 01 XR400R best most dependable versatile bike ever...250 lbs plenty of power and indestructible, still have an original 87 250R that cranks on one two kicks but the X4 is my baby

  • @gregorbabic7664
    @gregorbabic7664 Год назад +1

    So I sold my WR250F this year. It was a great bike (2015 very similar to yours) but if it wasn’t being ridden hard, it wasn’t being ridden the way it was meant to be. I have a street legal WR250R that I upgraded with GoRace suspension bits. Yea it is heavier than the WR250F or the KTM200EXC I had before. But it is plusher and more versatile than a dedicated dirt bike and I have always found I could ride longer and less fatigued with the R version than the F. I think for the riding you do, you would prefer the R as well. Just do the suspension upgrade.
    The WR250R is a legend. Have ridden it for long rides on the road before I got to my 4 bike stable, and it rocks on the singletrack or the rocky muddy Muskoka woods trails.

  • @guylr7390
    @guylr7390 Год назад +1

    An Athena big bore 300 kit will cure your lack of low end and pump up the mid range a lot.

  • @dirtdad8478
    @dirtdad8478 Год назад +2

    Great bikes. I have both the WR450F and WR250F. The 250 is my son's. They are 2023 models. I also have a 2018 TE250 two stroke. I am most impressed with the
    WR250F in the way that it handles. This is the first four stroke dirt bike that I feel handles like a two stroke. The bike is not slow, has plenty of power. I feel these new
    Yamaha's need more kudos. They are in my opinion the best value. Reliable, excellent suspension, tuning capability, and are cheaper than the Euro models.
    I have owned many of the Euro's. I would not go back.

    • @thorstentrapp274
      @thorstentrapp274 17 дней назад

      Cheers. Which one would you think is more reliable/low maintenance...the 250 or 450?

    • @dirtdad8478
      @dirtdad8478 16 дней назад +1

      @@thorstentrapp274 I would say they are the same. The 250 actually feels smoother. Both easy to maintain.

    • @thorstentrapp274
      @thorstentrapp274 16 дней назад

      @@dirtdad8478 , thanks a lot for your feedback. The 250 has a higher compression ratio. Not sure if that's something to worry about. So, it's 5-speed on the 450 and 6-speed on the 250. Would you mind letting me know your opinion on how both of them work...any preferences on your side? I'm a average rider at best, don't do highly technical stuff. Would be nice it the bike went 80mph or maybe even a tad more on easy dirt roads. Seems the 250 struggles a bit with that. Just a skinny, tall guy...150lbs. Don't know what to go for. No test ride possible. It's for South America. I'm in Australia. Thanks again.

    • @dirtdad8478
      @dirtdad8478 15 дней назад +1

      The 450 will top out over 90mph stock. The 250 is probably close to the mid 80's. But you are working the motor. 45 to 55 is no problem for either bike. I would not worry about the 5 spd. It has a good over drive in 5th. I have taller gearing on my 450 just for street purposes. I will do 100 mph easily, but I don't ever come close to that.

    • @thorstentrapp274
      @thorstentrapp274 15 дней назад

      @@dirtdad8478 , cheers mate. That's some great information...much appreciated. Seems like the 450 is a bit better for me as I like its compression being a bit lower. May sound strange, but apart from that the 250 is probably the better bike for me. Going 85 would be most likely a very rare thing...if ever at all. I will go faster than 55 and I don't want to torture the engine. On the other hand me being light and average skilled may allow me using a different gear ratio on the 250...hmm, not easy. Sorry, but there's another one. It will be used in sub-tropical climate, so heat may be a bit of an issue, even if it's just potential heat radiation and not a problem for the engine itself. Have you noticed differences? Cheers for your time.

  • @justinsavs
    @justinsavs Год назад +7

    I think a better decision would have not been a wr250f simply because the touchiness of the throttle isn't very conducive to singletrack use. I use a yz250fx and I would know this. A good example would be a KTM 250/300 or beta 200/250/300. I use a 300 Xtrainer and a yz250fx (which is just like the wr250f you ride)

    • @KingFriday274
      @KingFriday274 Год назад

      You are so right. I also have the fx. It sucks inntechnical stuff. 2 strokes are easier and cheaper and simpler. Next bike is the yz125x

  • @snupermoto723
    @snupermoto723 Год назад +3

    Great bike, enjoy. compress the suspension, lean back a little, light throttle and you'll be popping over those size logs with ease, Promise, try it once or twice and you'll see.

    • @snupermoto723
      @snupermoto723 Год назад +3

      don't forget to keep leaning back when your back wheel clears the log or over the bars you go.

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the tip! I definitely have some learning to do.

    • @snupermoto723
      @snupermoto723 Год назад +1

      don't we all.
      @@DifferentSpokesTV

    • @SomewhereInside
      @SomewhereInside Год назад +1

      On the hills keep the front light almost like skimming a rock on a river.
      You can do that on this bike , not so much on a heavier trail bike .

  • @Bugoutnow589
    @Bugoutnow589 Год назад

    Great bike buddy. That’s one of the great ones.
    Please wear your PPE including ear defenders.
    Visit your local hearing clinic and ask for custom plugs to wear with a helmet and away you go.

  • @SVTBansheeman
    @SVTBansheeman Год назад +2

    I'm only 5'7" with a short inseam. So yes, I am looking for a used cr250f 😁

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад

      Good choice! That bike has more grunt low down and is about the same weight. For a road legal option Honda now offers the CRF300 in a lowered LS trim.

  • @stoplogicmotorsports
    @stoplogicmotorsports 5 месяцев назад

    My backup for my KTM is a 2015 YZ250FX, for a reason.

  • @orientationandmobilitywith5902

    Great video! ‘Get the shiny side muddy’. ☺️

  • @sunilscorpy4594
    @sunilscorpy4594 Год назад

    Beautiful trail, great video ❤😊
    Congratulations 🎊 baby 👶 riding soon 😘

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад +1

      Thank you very much! Yes, I'm lucky that we have some beautiful trails around here.

  • @halinabiegalski9509
    @halinabiegalski9509 Год назад

    Good video, nice bike, beautiful scenery 👍

  • @JoshSinnott97
    @JoshSinnott97 9 месяцев назад

    I had my eyes on a crf300L but am starting to think that a dedicated dirt bike might be a better fit for me.
    Frequent oil changes aren't an issue for me but its the valve checks that are stopping me from pulling the trigger. Are you checking them every 30 hours or are there some bikes out there that are much longer than that?

  • @karlsquire8148
    @karlsquire8148 Год назад

    I just found your channel because I have decided I wanted to take up trail riding again after 40 years off time, (everyone got married no one left to ride with) so at this point, I'm trying to find the best used Street legal or none street legal bike for me, I use to ride a KDX 200 back in 1986, ya I'm older lol, Good vid thanks.

    • @mikelobdell2666
      @mikelobdell2666 Год назад +1

      If you're shorter in the inseam an xt250 is an extremely capable little goat that can cruise fine at 60mph. If you are taller the klx300 has the best suspension of the Japanese dualsports.

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад +1

      Welcome aboard! Glad tro be of service.

    • @SomewhereInside
      @SomewhereInside Год назад

      Just don’t get a KLR650 ….too heavy for safe trail riding.
      I am looking at a CRF 450 RL 132kg wet …lots of power…street legal….serious suspension .
      Also looking at the KLX 230 here in Australia ….cheap but competent on trail for moderate speeds.
      Good luck I returned to riding after 30 years …I have fallen in love with bike riding all over again 😊

  • @brianm5753
    @brianm5753 Год назад

    Why is WR so expensive and it's only a 250? And I thought it was no longer in production

  • @969Garage
    @969Garage 4 месяца назад

    Since you owned both can you tell me how different the wr250f is vs 300l ? I want the 300l mostly because of price but i just dont want to get board of it . Ive heard itsna little under powered

  • @blackbuttecruizr
    @blackbuttecruizr Год назад

    Not stingy or cheap... Frugal... It is actually a virtue. Consider getting a Rekluse on that, will help with stalling.

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад +2

      Thanks for the tip! Now with a kid on the way I'm more... "frugal' than ever :)

    • @blackbuttecruizr
      @blackbuttecruizr Год назад +1

      @@DifferentSpokesTV awesome reason to be frugal! Just promise us you won't sell your bikes and stop riding because your wife is pregnant... The lamest excuse ever... Take the battery out, drain the fuel and stuff it in a corner if you need to save money.

  • @raulsalanaranjo6565
    @raulsalanaranjo6565 Год назад

    So how often do you have to do the maintenance work?

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад +1

      I replace the air filter and change the oil every four rides or so and the oil filter every eight. I'll probably do only about 15 rides next year because the rest of the time I'm testing out the press bikes. Which, come to think of it, is pretty cool :)

  • @mikelobdell2666
    @mikelobdell2666 Год назад

    Congratulations. Ha! on both counts. It t sounds like a great choice for what you want to do. I am totlally with you on this bike over the european offerings. I would love to try one but at my age and with my 30 inch inseam the tumbling that I would regularily be doing (like the one in your video) might not be a great Idea. Also all the riding I would do in my area (Squamish) would require constant trailering so it's my klx 250 for me. Hope that the bike treats you well and you have a ton of fun with it.

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад

      Thanks! Much appreciated! Yep, it sounds like the KLX is the best bike for your area. I'm lucky at my cottage that I can pull out of my cottage and ride the gravel shoulder on our roads before popping onto the trail network which will pretty much get me anywhere I want. If I had a further ride the KLX would be at the top of the list.

  • @brazoon1
    @brazoon1 Год назад

    Wow, that was a good deal. The best I can find in my area (also Ontario) is a 2018 with 1400km for 8k$ and a 2010 with a Rockstar sticker kit (Red Flag lol) unknown mileage for 5k$.

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад

      Thanks for sharing! Yes, I got lucky this past summer with this one as the guy was the original owner and he got this bike because he got injured motocrossing. He thought that he would ride a lot but didn't. The bike is definitely worth it if you find the right one. Good luck!

  • @bushybill7189
    @bushybill7189 Год назад

    AS far as used enduro bikes go, you'd be hard pressed to go wrong on a Yamaha. As you get more off road experience though you might want to consider a bigger CC bike, not so that you can go faster but you can be lazier on a bigger bore bike. I'm a lifelong dirt bike rider and the bigger bikes are more forgiving in terms of gear selection. I ride a Beta 300 and I also have a Beta 480. For me the smaller CC bikes are for riders who like to rev their bokes hard. I'm what they call a lugger. I like to cruise around in a higher gear with lower revs, and I carry momentum by being smooth and consistent. You can't ride a 250 like that. Don't get me wrong, the WR250F is a great bike and is perfect for the skill level that you describe yourself as having. A bigger bike is something to consider going forward.

  • @Paul-gu2lv
    @Paul-gu2lv 9 месяцев назад

    I think you got lucky. I got the new one and it's almost a yzf. Also 250 is lighter but a lot more work on the gears than 450.

  • @mikeisland7382
    @mikeisland7382 Год назад

    Sweet Yamaha combo. Ask Santa for Tubliss for the WR for Christmas. Hard to beat the performance increase for the $.

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад

      Thanks for the tip. I have to get new tires for the T7 in the spring before anything else, but that's on my radar.

  • @khaccanhle1930
    @khaccanhle1930 Год назад

    I'd like to think I played a small part in your bike purchase after constantly bragging about my WR250F on your channel. 😂
    Uncorck that baby - you can still keep a spark arrestor on it. I have a FMF full exhaust with a Mega Bomb - it really helps the bike move.
    Enjoy the trails.

  • @longkeithdiablo8812
    @longkeithdiablo8812 Год назад

    I've ridden a wr250f and found it very similar in characteristics to my exc250f I had at the time. Maybe the KTM was a bit more responsive, through that's not surprising with the "on/off" KTM throttle 😂

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад

      Thanks for sharing! Yep, not surprising at all. I heard that KTMs are "Ready to Race" :)

  • @jackwhite2422
    @jackwhite2422 11 месяцев назад +1

    You have the facts wrong about 2 stroke dirt bikes

  • @jerryberkel8421
    @jerryberkel8421 6 месяцев назад +1

    You lost your camera

    • @drmayerr
      @drmayerr 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, at 5:09 the RAM mount lets go. I hope he noticed it. Those Insta360’s aren’t cheap!

    • @drmayerr
      @drmayerr 2 месяца назад +1

      Oh good, at 5:31 he stops & picks it up.

  • @chriskeys5653
    @chriskeys5653 Год назад

    My dream bike is a tw200

  • @sven3050
    @sven3050 Год назад

    A baby coming ??? congratulations both , bikes R.I.P... jajajaja no joking..

  • @EricSchwab-kr2qw
    @EricSchwab-kr2qw Год назад

    What's the difference between an Enduro and Dual Sport? I've heard both those terms used interchangeably. Aren't they both made to go on and off road?

    • @jrr7887
      @jrr7887 Год назад +1

      Dual Sport has lights, signals a plate etc so that it's street legal. Enduro just has a headlight and taillight. Not street legal. But also less emissions restrictions so is overall typically much lighter as well

    • @EricSchwab-kr2qw
      @EricSchwab-kr2qw Год назад

      @@jrr7887 Ah, got it. Never realized they weren't street legal. thank you for the clarification.

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад

      Dual sports are road legal and enduros are very good off road. Sometimes those two overlap like with the KTM 500EXC, but more often dual sports give up some off road performance like with a KLX300 or CRF300L. Then there are pure off road enduro bikes that are generally not road legal like my WR250F or Beta 300RR. These are great off road because they're built for that reason only.

    • @thisisinakilarra
      @thisisinakilarra Год назад

      @@DifferentSpokesTV I think the WR250F of 2018 is road legal, at least here in Spain (and usually here the restrictions are more severe). I think 2019 was the last street legal. Models from 2020 on are not street legal here due to our crazy EuroX pollution restrictions. KTM, Husky, Gasgas are all street legal, even 2 stroke, but we need to have our bikes "inspected" every two years to check that they are without any modifications and many other stupid stuff. We are shooting ourselves in the foot. I want to get out of here.

  • @tomg6284
    @tomg6284 Год назад

    Your not cheap, you have a brain.
    Enjoy your life pre-kid.

  • @markcomisky7106
    @markcomisky7106 Год назад

    Get a trials motorcycle get the experience

  • @stubabyfuora5280
    @stubabyfuora5280 Год назад

    Learn to stand on rough

  • @joshdoddadbod
    @joshdoddadbod Год назад

    Klx300 lol

  • @ofershragay
    @ofershragay Год назад +1

    Utah? You with a pregnant wife... Yes, 20 years from now... Or 10 years from now with the kid

    • @DifferentSpokesTV
      @DifferentSpokesTV  Год назад +3

      We're planning on getting out there in the next three years. The kid better grow up liking adventure if they're gonna join this family :)