Unbolting the rear shock makes it possible to get the valve cover out. Otherwise, I couldn’t get it out. My biggest problems with the valve check was being able to refit the valve cover and keeping the o-ring/seal in place. It fell out every time. I used a small amount of tacky grease to hold the o-ring in place. Find feeler gauges like the ones robot is using. The standard feeler gauges are hard to use. I did the two intakes from the top reaching down as opposed to using the access panel. Two of my 3 valves were tight.
Thanks. I haven't seen much about these new motors. @bigissue, these engines do not have hydraulic self-adjusting valvetrains. Valves--especially the exhaust valves get longer during use, reducing their clearance and then they won't seal well. If the valves don't seal against the seat because the valve-train is holding it open, the valve and seat will get hotter than they need to, which further accelerates their stretching and seat wear. During that time, the engine just won't have as much power as it should because the engine can't keep compression after the sparkplug ignites the fuel-air mixture. I've heard from a Vespa mechanic of an engine that would not start from valve-clearance issues alone, likely because modern Vespas, already have an engine-decompression system to reduce the load on the starter, and having leaking valves might lower it until the point where it wouldn't start at all.
X cilindro 180 malossi e centralina il gioco valvole è uguale? For Malossi 180 cylinder and control unit, is the valve clearance the same? valve adjustment is the same
why is it according to the manual it's both .08 mm for both intake and exhaust? and robot uses .004 for the intake and .006 for the exhaust. I'm a little confuse.
hello mr robot,i just take back my primavera 3v from a workshop that lies to me..n when i check the head cover i realize i lost 1 part bcoz i see in ur video u have it there..what u call it crank lock or what..im sorry bcoz im new ...is it ok i didnt hve it there?
I know you already resolved this, but for anyone new reading this: Robots video is 9 years old. Specs change over the years. My manual AND the sticker in the underseat bucket varies from the older model. Check your manual or the sticker in the underseat bucket for the correct spacing for you model.
Great video!! I was wondering if it is the same way of adjusting the valves for a 4 valve engine? (I have a 4 valve SOHC Piaggio engine for my Aprilia Atlantic 2007)
Good day. Hello to you from faraway Kazakhstan. If it is not difficult to tell me please. I have a Piaggio ZIP engine 125 carburetor. I want to install it on the Vespa LH 50 2t scooter. Which sdi switch is suitable for starting this engine ????. In addition to the ACI503. I will not have an immobolizer. Thanks for answering.
Hopefully, I can ask a question here? I take delivery next week of a new Primavera. As I live 200 miles from the dealer (and 150 miles from the nearest Vespa dealer). I can change the engine oil and filter myself as well as the gear oil, but adjusting the valves is well beyond my skill set. As the valves on the engine shown here were slightly tight with just a few miles, my questions are these? Are they tight from the factory or do they tighten up with initial use? Is there any point in having the dealer check the clearances on the brand new engine before they ship it to me? If not, will I need to transport my new scooter to an authorized dealer to have them checked at 625 miles? Thanks much.
My experience : A reputable dealer will not let a scooter leave with bad valves...they will only get worse by 600 miles. If you are careful to not overheat the engine for first 300-500 miles, valves should be good till 1200, when you should probably return to that dealer for a checkup. Again. a reputable dealer will understand your geographical problem in being "overdue", because Vespas don't have valve issues as a common thing, anyway. Valves just slightly out are not a fatal or totally uncommon problem even for well manufactured scooter motors. For sports and race cars, maybe.
got a problem with a primavera 50 (carburation and 4stroke)... it starts, revs up itself and inmediatly after 10 secs stop. Then if you let it rest 2 min it will start again with no problem and stop again......any thoughts?? carburetor , valve adjustment, air leak.......???
loss power after valve adjustment, setting was .10mm and .15mm @top dead center, still no power, before adjustment - power is very good? what makes a problem? pls help. thank you
Frank Pa check the valve... If there any crack or you haven't polishing it... Also check if your valve was bended or not... It's really important thing for compression
Atanasius Kurnia Correct valve clearance for these bikes is .08mm for both intake and exhaust, according to my 2015 Sprint owners manual. I can't tell if Robot made a mistake, or if his shop prefers these looser clearances based on their experience.
hey people valve adjusment on first service are vespa crazy get a 300 gts had it since 2009 change the oils new exhaust tyres engie mounts and tighting steering bearings all cheap to do and still going after 40000kms forget this engine
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Unbolting the rear shock makes it possible to get the valve cover out. Otherwise, I couldn’t get it out. My biggest problems with the valve check was being able to refit the valve cover and keeping the o-ring/seal in place. It fell out every time. I used a small amount of tacky grease to hold the o-ring in place. Find feeler gauges like the ones robot is using. The standard feeler gauges are hard to use. I did the two intakes from the top reaching down as opposed to using the access panel. Two of my 3 valves were tight.
Thanks. I haven't seen much about these new motors.
@bigissue, these engines do not have hydraulic self-adjusting valvetrains. Valves--especially the exhaust valves get longer during use, reducing their clearance and then they won't seal well. If the valves don't seal against the seat because the valve-train is holding it open, the valve and seat will get hotter than they need to, which further accelerates their stretching and seat wear. During that time, the engine just won't have as much power as it should because the engine can't keep compression after the sparkplug ignites the fuel-air mixture. I've heard from a Vespa mechanic of an engine that would not start from valve-clearance issues alone, likely because modern Vespas, already have an engine-decompression system to reduce the load on the starter, and having leaking valves might lower it until the point where it wouldn't start at all.
I just paid 300 dollars for this service! Lol I should have watched this video before hand and done it myself! Next time!!!
This engine is also on the 2012-2014 Vespa Lx 125/150 3 Valvole i.e. here in Europe. I have one in Portovenere green :)
Also applies to 2013 Vespa LX 150 3V.
X cilindro 180 malossi e centralina il gioco valvole è uguale?
For Malossi 180 cylinder and control unit, is the valve clearance the same? valve adjustment is the same
I have a 125cc iget 2021 3v engine. Is the method the same for finding TDC?
Hi Robot, how you adjust the valves when there is a king of ball joint on the end (have a ET4 with this arrangements)
How can I get a service manual for VXL150 3V?
I womder if this is the same for the IGet engines?
Procedure is the same but the spacing is different. Check your manual or the sticker in the bucket under the seat.
why is it according to the manual it's both .08 mm for both intake and exhaust? and robot uses .004 for the intake and .006 for the exhaust. I'm a little confuse.
0.10 for Both is fine
So why not 0.08mm bor both sides? I am confused also
He uses inch not millimiter gauge
Robot is working on an older model. Procedure is the same but the specs are different.
Is the same engine on Liberty 150 i-get euro 5?
Where can i get some cheap new intake valves for 2020 liberty 150 ?
hello mr robot,i just take back my primavera 3v from a workshop that lies to me..n when i check the head cover i realize i lost 1 part bcoz i see in ur video u have it there..what u call it crank lock or what..im sorry bcoz im new ...is it ok i didnt hve it there?
Quick question, the owners manual says both I take and exhaust should be 0.8
I know you already resolved this, but for anyone new reading this: Robots video is 9 years old. Specs change over the years. My manual AND the sticker in the underseat bucket varies from the older model. Check your manual or the sticker in the underseat bucket for the correct spacing for you model.
Great video!! I was wondering if it is the same way of adjusting the valves for a 4 valve engine?
(I have a 4 valve SOHC Piaggio engine for my Aprilia Atlantic 2007)
Good day. Hello to you from faraway Kazakhstan. If it is not difficult to tell me please. I have a Piaggio ZIP engine 125 carburetor. I want to install it on the Vespa LH 50 2t scooter. Which sdi switch is suitable for starting this engine ????. In addition to the ACI503. I will not have an immobolizer. Thanks for answering.
Hopefully, I can ask a question here? I take delivery next week of a new Primavera. As I live 200 miles from the dealer (and 150 miles from the nearest Vespa dealer). I can change the engine oil and filter myself as well as the gear oil, but adjusting the valves is well beyond my skill set. As the valves on the engine shown here were slightly tight with just a few miles, my questions are these? Are they tight from the factory or do they tighten up with initial use? Is there any point in having the dealer check the clearances on the brand new engine before they ship it to me? If not, will I need to transport my new scooter to an authorized dealer to have them checked at 625 miles? Thanks much.
My experience : A reputable dealer will not let a scooter leave with bad valves...they will only get worse by 600 miles. If you are careful to not overheat the engine for first 300-500 miles, valves should be good till 1200, when you should probably return to that dealer for a checkup. Again. a reputable dealer will understand your geographical problem in being "overdue", because Vespas don't have valve issues as a common thing, anyway. Valves just slightly out are not a fatal or totally uncommon problem even for well manufactured scooter motors. For sports and race cars, maybe.
got a problem with a primavera 50 (carburation and 4stroke)... it starts, revs up itself and inmediatly after 10 secs stop. Then if you let it rest 2 min it will start again with no problem and stop again......any thoughts?? carburetor , valve adjustment, air leak.......???
loss power after valve adjustment, setting was .10mm and .15mm @top dead center, still no power, before adjustment - power is very good? what makes a problem? pls help. thank you
Frank Pa check the valve... If there any crack or you haven't polishing it... Also check if your valve was bended or not... It's really important thing for compression
It is 0,10mm intake and 0,15 mm exhaust outtake as far as I know
adjustment in 0.8 and out 0.8 best setting for 3v engine
@@rbhgaming1024 yes as described in the manual
Great video ! Tks you
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#vespa Motorsport maybe you can call using the line
Are the valve clearances the same spec on the older engine (2009 Fly 150)? Thanks! All of your videos are great BTW. You guys are awesome!
My first thought. Robot legend!
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hello I need 2005 piaggio fly 150 scooter carburetor setup and hose connection picture information .... Thanks
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In 0.14 ex0.16?
Hi iam from india ,pl upload vespa Geared 150 4t engine complete overhaul
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Mi moto tiene ese motor pero a perdido fuerza puede ser un ajuste de válvulas ya tiene 12345klm y nunca se a echo
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the valve adjusment? intake 0,04 exhaust 0,06???
Atanasius Kurnia Correct valve clearance for these bikes is .08mm for both intake and exhaust, according to my 2015 Sprint owners manual. I can't tell if Robot made a mistake, or if his shop prefers these looser clearances based on their experience.
Atanasius Kurnia .08mm is .003 of an inch. Robot is using non-metric tools, .004 and .006 of an inch.
hey people valve adjusment on first service are vespa crazy get a 300 gts had it since 2009 change the oils new exhaust tyres engie mounts and tighting steering bearings all cheap to do and still going after 40000kms forget this engine
Is Robot drunk?
My first thought. Legend
Hi
I probably bored up to 200cc