kinda related, but Chappell Roan used to do meet and greets before concerts but had to stop because people would meet her and just straight up trauma dump on her and tell her super dark details abt their lives, and Chappell said she would have to hear these super traumatic things and then go up on stage like nothing happened, and it rly hurt her mental health so she stopped doing the meet and greets. people forget these viral artists are PEOPLE as well and not just images
I was thinking recently about the 2010s emo scene, and how it was basically the norm at the time to heavily trauma dump on these bands, and how that was not healthy for anyone involved. (The problems within the scene I feel added to this problem.) I definitely think music can help us heal, I don't think we have to share every detail of that process especially the artist themselves.
That's just awful. And I completely agree. I feel like we view celebrities the same way we view fictional characters. I'm not so delusional to believe that the relationship between celebrities/influencers and their audience will ever be comparable to a one-on-one relationship; the nature of a parasocial relationship is that someone is kind of presenting themselves as a brand/product/character to people, and, in turn, people get attached to this character and give them support. However, I feel like we need a realty check every once in a while that everyone involved in this "relationship" is just a normal, very real, human being, though.
Because people don’t know the difference between going viral and being famous, they end up with false hope during their 5 seconds of fame and think they are freaking Michael Jackson. Being viral is temporary but being famous is forever.
right like she’s going to be totally forgotten in a couple of months and no longer getting merch deals or interviews or paid public appearances, and then she has no steady income to fall back on. just irresponsible!
@@willofdodge1 yeah, not knocking her hustle. I like to see us all do well, but at the same time we don’t need an over saturation of products for the sake of it.
literally. ive already got enough mental health issues, i don’t need more. and the idea of having everything you do put under a microscope for everyone to dissect doesn’t help either.
@zitorya5786 right?? That's how i felt 😂 ppl were commenting on my face and hair, speculating how i "dont shower" bc my hair was greasy after i came home from a 9 hour shift?? 😂 i was like "sorry, man. That's just what happens." They assume u must be an awful human being for not being perfect all the time.
I think the issue is majority of Hollywood and influencers are so out of touch with the general public that people are so desperate for some type of normal everyday person they can relate to and she came along. It will just be someone new next week.
People need to lay off Tyla 😭 I’m not a fan but that girl is an amazing performer. I can’t even hold a conversation while walking up a hill and she’s singing while doing an entire aerobics session
It's not that hard to sing & dance simultaneously. & of course you couldn't do it, that's not your profession. That's like me saying: "I can't even cut the fat off of my meat properly while cooking" as an excuse for a bad plastic surgeon who did multiple botched surgeries.
As someone who is a musician it is hard to sing and dance it takes a lot of stamina and training , being a musician isn't easy no matter what category your in , creative arts in a whole isn't easy , and it's frustrating when people who don't dwell in that category think it's not 😭@@IsaedNaurfawn
It’s called burnout, people be wanting to be famous and not entertainers, performing the same song twice a day for half the year starts breaking you down. You have to have a certain mentality to see all those different experiences as separate things even though there performing the same piece of art, entertainment used to be art, this shidd is trash now.
@@eyebalanceenergy.... Performing the same 3 min song twice a day is tiring 🧐 Heck, Id much rather do that than work 8+ hour shifts as a cook 5-6 days a week with no breaks. Sign me up!
@@FirstnameLastname-yc2mtThey mean for your mental, when you were clearly not about this rap shit in the first place. For someone trying to go viral while putting minimal effort, yeah this would drive them insane lol
She was offered 30k for an appearance, I think in Miami, but I'm not sure, I just know it was 30k. You'd quit your day job too if you were getting that money for a day of work. It's not gonna last, but that's life changing money. It's not wealth, but imagine having an extra 30k and other opportunities for appearances and what you could do with that money.
Dude, America has a serious problem if a woman can't publicly say that she's not attracted to a presidential candidate when asked. It's a stupid question to start with. Don't look over that one, that needs a deep dive.
Right! Expecting a young attractive woman to be attracted enough to Trump to WANT to give him that kind of "service" is DELUSIONAL! He is not a GILF or even a GGILF to MOST women, let alone someone who could pass for his greatgranddaughter! (Doubt his own wives were ever *really* seggsually attracted to him.) Irrational and ridiculous! (and gross)
@@BarbieBizarree how so? They aren’t legitimately famous nor do they have the level of clout and power actual celebrities do. That is why calling an influencer is a stretch.
Every time I hear someone talking about winning the lottery or going viral, I think of the fact that when Eminem first started to make money, he got an accountant to take care of his money and he refuses to even buy a watch without asking his accountant.
@@meghansullivan6812yeah, there's a few smart people like that. Recently a football player made a video going to a car dealership and wanting the cybertruck, dealership quoted the number and he said "i am not the hes man with my money", left the room, made a call, came back and said "my money man says no" and left.
It’s still so wild to me how Megan’s label didn’t want her on that BTS remix, she managed to gain sooo much more fans from that and she’s now in the prime of her career since going independent
Right! I'm soooo glad Megan is out of that 1501 mess and completely independent yet has distribution from Warner Music Group because that's very important, too.
bro fr i didn't know about megan before that except WAP (didn't go into detail about her just listened to the song) and after the Butter remix, i actually got introduced to her and listened to her. her label is so dumb maybe they're jealous of her
@mar35962 I know for a fact that the CEO of 1501 Ent. (the former label in question) is a former MLB player who doesn't know a d*mn thing about the music business and screwed up royally when he decided to give Megan all those problems; prompting her leave to the label & go indie. He had no idea what he was doing. Meg was his *ONLY* multi-platinum selling artist. Oh, well...
Yeah 😢 Everyone hating on her twerking and judging her but not asking themselves what could REALLY be going on behind the scenes and is she happy and okay…? Because her face tells a lot
@@majestieyangxue3014 It can be a painful awakening that a large portion (some would say ‘all’) of one’s selling point and appeal, exists in the size and shape of their gluteus maximus and mammary glands and how they are wobbled to various rhythms with some sounds coming out of one’s mouth in the background. Hopefully she can repackage her product into something more fulfilling and meaningful for her longevity in this industry. Maybe she could listen to rapsody if she into conscious rap.
This makes me thinks about Brittany Broski as a positive exemple of going viral. In my opinion, she had a very smooth transition from tiktok to youtube and now podcasts. I think she managed to gather a fanbase, it took her a lot of work but she's now a very succesful internet celebrity. And i think the key is that she was able to stay authentic and make the content she truly likes!
The ones making a thing out of it are men 😭 the mfs who have never seen a female in their life but also we know they will take any chance they can get when it comes to sexualising women lmaoo i ain’t even surprised
Yes and it takes a lot if business acumen to understand how to go from that to making money and maintaining relevance. In addition to that, you're super screwed if there's a hitch in the plan like getting kicked off the show early. All in all, the viral to famous pipeline has grown over saturated with people tryna sell something we no longer want to buy
In Poland we have this woman who went viral from being "Miss Euro 2012" (soccer championships). her influencer career is still going strong 12 years later...its crazy
A good example would be the chickfila sauce girl. She tried to hold on to that clout but there was literally nothing much that could come after that, especially considering it wasn’t that viral worthy
@@leena5875 iirc her claim to fame was just making funntmy faces while taking someones order at chickfila. I think she got fired for it too which also gained publicity
@@leena5875it was just a girl working as a cashier at chick-fil-a and the costumer asked for no chick-fil-a sauce and she had an over exaggerated reaction with her facial expressions and all
That one guy who got rejected from acting school, suddenly went viral and a lot of people were harrassing multiple schools for not accepting him. Suddenly, he was at an exclusive event just cause his situation went viral.
Even if you win a 10M dollar jackpot, don’t quit your job or quit working at all. That’s a recipe for depression. EDIT: Pursuing hobbies is a type of work too. Anything that keeps you busy, achieving, and gives your life sustenance is a job. For those claiming that a hobby isn’t a job, it can be. My hobby is my job and my main source of income. It’s definitely possible.
@@lettterstocranes Plenty of people feel useful doing hobbies and volunteer work. Like, rescuing animals or feeding the homeless. Much more fulfilling tbh.
The thing about the Hawk Tuah girl is what is the show gonna be about? How is this gonna last more than a few months? And who will hire her after this knowing what she got famous for? Im concerned for her
It’s gonna be the female version of Ryan lochte’s show. Look up the video of Philly news anchors laughing at him while interviewing him about the show.
I remember reading some comment that was brilliant that said that so many people chase attention and followers online thinking that's success, when in reality, if you have one or two close friends, you've done well.
I would expect it from the new coming artist they think it's a must, but from Beyonce it was a turn off from me she's well established,has fan base, she's a billionaire she can just sit and do nothing and will be all over her music. I was really disappointed actually
Adding to what I said as well Chappell has been in the scene for over a decade now, singing in small hometown stuff and working to get to where she is. Virality removes and erases the sheer amount of work it took for her to get here
The reason why I wouldn’t loop Tyla into this conversation though is that I think becoming mainstream and viral are two different things. In Africa, she had clout and she’s been in the game for a minute so it’s not like she suddenly woke up and had clout. She just finally got exposure in the US.
I think I would like to go viral, but only after I have a collection of content already out, so that people have context for what I had been like in the past. Like if I went viral for a dance video for example, sure I'd post more dance videos but I would want there to be an existing catalog of videos or content that is a better representation of myself than a single dance video.
What a thoughtful thing to say. That's an incredibly informed take on vitality, its temporariness and the ideal situation to be in if one does go viral.
I hate when people look at one clip we’re an artist messes up and there like “tHeY cAnT sInG” like every singer messes up and that doesn't make them a bad singer
Yes! I've considered making vids on various topics related to the modern state of negativity, social issues, dating problems, inspire to widen perspectives or shift their mindset towards positivity. I've had several ppl tell me I should... but the idea of showing my face online? Potentially being known by hundreds or thousands of ppl? That's what stops me.
@@justacoginthefkery yeah i totally get it but a fun way to share your social and political opinions would be to create your own blog, that way you don’t have to show your face !! especially if that’s something you’re really passionate about 🫶🏽
Artists (whether it be singers, dancers, bands.etc) are the last to get paid and the most exploited by the music industry, especially by labels. The Pussycat dolls dancers made todays equivalent to $800 a week despite selling millions. The Dallas cowboy cheerleaders were getting less than $200 a game until they petitioned and got minimum wage. Singers are given loans as an advance to make albums that they have to pay back to the record label by their sales, before the singer gets to profit. And that’s only talking about those artists who made it; not the poverty level hopefuls trying to get an opportunity to show their gifts.
At this point, no one needs a label when you have all this technology and apps. Ppl that have talent can capitalize on tik tok, RUclips and other apps. Look at Chloe and Halle Bailey. They were RUclipsrs who were seen by Beyoncé. Look at DDG. Another successful youtube rapper. The new country artist Tanner Adell was also seen by Beyoncé on TikTok and was on her country album and now literally her music plays in the gym on the radio. I’m not sure why anyone would feel they need a label these days. I sure wouldn’t
Yeah and imagine he's being convicted for sleeping with a porn star imagine he gets accused of such thing what are we coming to the world is full of hypocrites! 🤦🏻♀️
I agree with your thoughts. To me, going viral you can either 1-fade into obscurity and continue living your life with someone recognizing you every now and then, 2- you find a niche and actually build a long lasting career 3- your less than favorable past is discovered and exposed and you fade into obscurity always wondering what could’ve been, 4- you make a terrible joke or doing something offensive, lose all your brand deals and fade into obscurity. I personally like my current life in obscurity 😂
As someone who has never used TikTok and only casually checks out social media, it's so strange when suddenly some new celebrity just pops into mainstream and I have no idea where they came from or what they do. I've heard of Ice Spice but I don't know a single song from her. I've heard of Charlie D'Amelio but I have no idea why she's a celebrity. I think this shows that the public is also having these viral people thrust at us and immediately expecting us to accept them, but there are so many being thrown at us that eventually they fall out of interest. Then these new celebrities clamor to stay relevant and maintain their popularity which I imagine can be very stressful.
I just had my first piece of content go viral on tiktok and has been going since two days ago. More specifically it's related to my ceramics business which I've run for almost two years so to now have over 6 million views and 725k likes is really surreal. And I didn't expect all the negative comments. it also feels a little dystopian in the way that the comments start to feel robotic? like I could separate them into very specific categories. I kept reading through so people know where to send commissions but boy oh boy its hijacked my brain for the last couple days and it makes me wonder why anyone would want this on a regular basis. I get money but my god, I can't deal with that many people having access to me like this every day.
Thank you for sharing. I'm concerned seeing so many people want to become viral. It's not as glamorous as people think it is. Steady growth is not a bad thing 💜
I think if you’re selling an actual product that has value, social media will always be, like, accessory. It’s not the same as being a social media ‘personality’ where all you’re marketing is your (non existent) personality 😂
It feels robotic because a lot of comments are in fact just bots. I am not joking, look up the term "ghost internet", it means that the internet has so much automatic comments that gives the impression of being human, but in fact are not human
I think another layer missing here not talked about is the misogyny around virality, a lot of these examples are women and women tend to go more viral than men but are subjected to worse treatment...another can of worms to open but something to think about that shouldn't be ignored.
I’ll take a slow but steady rise to “fame” over going viral any day. I think that grind not only prepares you for the moment you finally do go viral but also gives you the skills to capitalize on it since you had to go through so much trial and error to get there in the first place.
honestly in tylas case, you can find videos as far back as 2017 of her saying she's gonna be famous and she wants to be a star. she is genuinely talented, and she deserves everything good that comes to her because in hand with going viral, she worked extremely hard
Thank you!! I'm not even a fan but dammit this almost feels unfair and like the issue goes beyond this narrative that she's not talented. Throw it away!
For me, i think its started to become a micro-trend thing in a way. Someone becomes viral from one video, have a couple days of fame and then a new person is found that does something better. Like the huak tuah girl was probably viral for a week max, and miss girl quit her job 😭
So there’s no chance she was dancing 10 seconds before that clip?! You’ve never walked up a set of stairs and been out of breath for the next 30-60 seconds? She’s got to get on stage for a whole set and dance and are expected to hit every note - sometimes multiple nights a week!!
Singing and dancing at the same time isn't about ability and experience. Its about putting in the work. If Tyla wants to prioritize Singing well she needs a voice coach if she doesn't have a natural gift. If she wants to perform, get on a treadmill and sing. It will help her endurance. Just for that perspective.
i think ppl think fame is only a positive thing, but think abt the things we take for granted as regular ppl, when ur famous you will never have privacy again, your business is everyone’s business, when ur famous you can never reverse it and be a regular unknown person again, you have been thrusted into the public eye, ur mind and life will be altered forever, in my opinion in this day and age of social media over saturation, not having fame is taken for granted
When you go viral without actually having any musical talent & release songs with atrocious lyrics - that's Ice Spice, a prime example of decline in music. Previously, artists had to do gigs at clubs and bars to get famous, now you need to be viral on ticktock. There has been a sharp decline in song writing since the late 90's when popstars started to get pushed by labels instead of people who could actually write songs and play an instrument
I think Brittany Broski is great example of viral fame going _right_ . She got famous because let's face it, a dumb, viral video shot her into the spotlight. *But* she's been able to maintain momentum because she's smart, likeable and true to herself. Whereas the 'hauk tuah' girl just doesn't seem equipped to deal with all the sudden attention. The problem is you don't know how someone's gonna handle something like that until it happens.
Also within that Brittany took a step back and asked herself who she'd appeal to best and then aggressively (in a good way) penetrated that audience/market. I say this because i remember her going viral and then the next thing she was hanging out with Drag Race winner, Trixxie Mattel. There's at least 2 or 3 audiences that she could appeal to and with a co-sign from an already well-known public figure within the LGBTQ/millennial/now Gen Z communities there was a clear opportunity to capitalise
@@sprinkles06 you’re gonna have to look up to see if someone saved the video she deleted complaining about how it’s not her job to talk about these things because she’s only an influencer
@@KristenZianourry2015 Oh, okay. I thought it was that she was for Israel 😭 that's not too bad? A lot of people are putting pressure on their favorite influencers to talk about things when they want their page to be about positivity and whatnot. Idk. Talking about things are important, especially this, but we are all aware of the genocide, just doing your part as best you can, donating, boycotting, is, well the best you can right? You don't owe to tell that to people. Then again there's no harm in telling ppl haha. IDK I'm not an influencer If she hasn't talked about other serious stuff then I mean that's not out of the ordinary for her right?
I realized the absurdity of all this when the "host" asked the huak tuah girl, " You going to have a podcast"... A podcats to say what??! What is her contribution on what topic? This is exactly how mediocrity is bred, the girl is super young and has barely any life experience... She is going to be referred to some people who are going to completely take advantage of her, because nobody will take her seriously and she totally blew up her reputation down the line... When you get a massive amount of "recognition" without any work, without any talent you're not grounded in anything, what's left is you, you become your own product and brand and I think many people start losing it because all the boundaries start to blur there is no distinction between who you are, what you do.
🦋 i hope i will never go viral in a way that i like my privacy and being able to do whatever i want without people really staring. i honestly really desire a quiet life. the money is probably good, i want to live more whimsically, but i'll make that work on my own term.
And I think artists that blow up because of one thing are so afraid to stray from that. Ice Spice’s music literally all sounds the same, and Tyla, I can’t tell Art and Water apart honestly. I thought they were the same song. 🦋
I feel like Tyla her team is very predatory. The amount of performances she has to do and interviews about things that she doesn’t feel comfortable about. All this fame reminds me off an old song that describes the phenomanon perfectly; “Stars in their eyes”
I agree. I remember that one show I think for Halloween? Ik she was dressed up and looked really uncomfortable and constantly pulling her skirt down bcs of how short it was
@@kickmuncher3And I don't understand why some people like you are just so mean about that. I am perfectly sure none of them know what would happen and it isn't in "tHe CoNtrAct"
🦋 i’m so happy that you made this video because it’s been something i’ve been trying to tell people for a long time. i think that the public creates insane parasocial relationships with celebrities and they stop viewing them as a person, and more so as an extension of themselves.
@Z5Z5Z5 definitely, theres no loyalty in virality so once youre not shiny and new the audience stops caring. Then you have nothing to fall back on. I dont get why people wanna go viral so bad fr
@umbrie11a and fast enough a few months after going viral people on social media will start to hate on you and claim that you were not worth the hype, i see this with every new celebrity who becomes a hot topic
She gets dragged by black women every time she does dumb sh!t. It was black men who gave her permission before they found out she will never date black guys.
@@Heyitschy03 exactly why I said black women… and it’s a shame. Because if the shoe was on the other foot… man… but I don’t hate black women like some do us so imma mind mine
The famous rich people wish they had a simple anonymous life like you. Find things to appreciate about your life and figure out what is meaningful to you ✨️
They are more stressed and depressed than you realise.More money means more problems.Bigger bills,more scheduled,more responsibilities and a ton of people wanting stuff from you and hedging on your to succeed for their monthly pay.
You’re giving ice spice a little too much credit 😅 I don’t think her team is forcing her. She has a ghost writer and is light skin and thick. She wanted to be famous and decided that was the lane she knew best but I don’t think she’s dying to stretch her creative wings 😅 she seems to be in kahoots with them more so
Tyla shouldn't be on this list. She's been at it since 2019 and only recently blew up internationally. Besides, she CAN actually sing and dance unlike having one "catchy" moment
the amount of people who see somebody has gone through something and they trauma dump their own issues onto a situation makes me so uncomfortable. there's a time and place for everything, someone else's trauma is not an opportunity for you to dump your own on top of theirs.
The Hawk Tuah girl is dropping like sooo much merch and I feel bad that she’s gonna lose a lot of money on that. Bc no one’s gonna buy it and all the comments were making fun of her 😭
Saw ice spice open for doja cat and hearing an entire arena explode in screams and cheers as soon as she turned around to shake her butt is one of the wildest things I’ve experienced.
I will agree that ice spice is objectively bad at music. A lot of her lyrics are repetitive and it doesn't really feel like she cares about her art. That being said, i absolutely love her because i can't think of a single other rapper who could, with a completely sound mind, put the the lyrics "you think you the shit bitch, you aint even the fart" into a song much less use it as the main line the rest of the song is based off of.
I can give her that, it's kind of iconic as a clip 😂 The thing is, so many artists turn out line after line like this. They fill entire verses with these quips, even when they only have a one hit wonder. Even WAP alone, is full of these types of hilarious punchlines. It's my favourite thing she's done, but sadly there's not a lot of competition there
A lot of music is repetitive tho. + thts the kind of rap she does. Drill is repetitive and ESPECIALLY ny drill. Remember PopSmoke (rip)? Not to mention she’s only had a few tracks before she went viral. Writing as a 16 year old💀 Now she’s kinda stuck writing the way tht got her attention. But her beats fr suck lol. “Shit” is a troll song and not to be taken srs lmao and other rappers do it as well💀 em made his whole career off of troll songs, so did sexy red.
One other factor to always kepp in mind is that Ice Spice is a woman in hip hop, like many others she is going to be held at an insanely high standard compared to her male counterparts. The Pop Smoke example (and I'm sure artists that are more inept or just as elementary as Ice Spice) is a fairly good one
🦋🦋🦋I really appreciate your chill, down to earth perspective, and very much enjoyed listening to your take on these trending topics. Thanks for keeping it real and being unafraid to speak out about the massive "elephant in the room", that is somehow easy for everyone else to ignore, which is such an absurdity to me. This is yet another example of just how pervasive society's cognitive dissonance truly is. They ignore reality in favor of the fantasy, not realizing that it's that fantasy itself is unfortunately riddled with toxicity. It's pretty sad to think about, actually😟.
I feel like bhad bhabie is the perfect example of capitalizing off of her fame to the fullest extent, she made a legitimate rapping career and broke out from being the cash me outside girl into forming her own identity, she even made 10 or 20 mil from OF the girl is set for life and is still relevant years later but ion see ice spice or anyone else doin that they can easily be replaced in a week
They steal your light and make money off of it. Which in turn, dims that light. Because it's not being fed like it was in the beginning. A person's talent is special. It's a piece of them. It's hard to do that 24/7. It will drain you🕯
The one time I went mini 'viral' on SM platforms in my country, it pretty much traumatized me because I ended up getting attacked by incels for how I look. From petty remarks commenting on my face, my teeth, even the space between my brows ?? (comparing me to Sid from Ice Age) - to even making remarks like "I'll just cover her face and do her". I was literally scared of stepping out of my home. This happened in October 2022, and the fears still remain today, in July 2024.
So sorry it happened to you :/. How many views do you consider "mini viral" ? Genuinely asking, like 2 millions -1 millions would be considered viral ?
To be clear, that girl seems cool, I hope she got a nice bonus for her moment of fame and doesn't get any consequences for it, that she can peacefully go on with her life. And I'm grateful I live in a time that finds it kind of fun and relateable and is almost no one is shaming her. But like, what is there to make a show about? We dont know her for anything deep, and we dont know any of her depth as a person from her famous clip, we don't know her! There's literally a classic Simpsons episode about this concept; a regular person making a funny quip at the right time on camera, going viral, getting commercial deals, then getting reduced down to the meme by everyone until they're sick of it 😂
@@kickmuncher3 First you called the joke “immature and gross” and now you’re upset by someone saying it was relatable..guess what..adults have sex 😱 and an adult having sex does not make them a bad person 😱
@@idontwantacupcake241 Why, yes I did call it immature and gross. Congratulations, you can read lol. And not upset that one found it relatable, just grossed out lol. And what?! I had no idea 😱🤯…. You mean to tell me adults have sex?? 😂 duh, I know. And no of course it doesn’t make one a bad person, never said that. You brought that one up lol but you don’t have to be immature about sex as the girl was in the video. That’s the annoying part. I just find those who find sex “funny” are immature. As an adult, I don’t find “hauk tu” funny. It’s just childish behavior is all.
I feel so sad for Ice Spice. She went viral because she got a lot going on back there and they made that her whole brand. They reduced her to her ass. Shit, I'd be sick too if that was all I was known for, throwing it back and rapping about it..
she reduced herself to that tho, thats all she ever presented herself as since the start. even her tiktoks before she became famous. and have u read her songs. its just that typa girl
@@cloudyskiees idk.. just because she likes to show off, like a lot of people, doesn't mean thats all she can offer. She looks good and has a nice flow, her songs are fun to listen to imo.. The thing is that she's just kind of tired of it all, i think. She's still so new to all of this fame and had so many concerts already. Her song blew up and all of a sudden she had fame. That's a lot of attention in a short period of time. 'Ice Spice' also has to stay relevant, at least i think that's a common way to stay famous, because money, manager, .. That can be pretty tough on your mind and body. I understand the way you think, tho, don't get me wrong.
Modern Day Lesson - Save your PTO & Vacation time not only in case you walk outside and your car doesn’t start but also JUST in case you go VIRAL, you have to have a mean hustle to flip a viral moment into generational wealth.
I'm a very small DJ. This weekend I was on a music festival with my friends. Randomly a guy came up to me, shouting my stage name and said that he saw on my ig that i'm there and then asked me for a picture. It was a first for me and honestly.. it was terrifying in some way. I can't imagine going viral tbh.
I remember when a video of mine went popular on Tiktok for at least 2 months, and I don't really post (I've got like 7 videos), and I remember being creeped out that so many people liked it and started following me. It was like "That's all you're gonna get from that's worth while, stop keeping tabs on me", but I used it as an opportunity to spread as many free Palestine and Congo + Anti Woman Abuse videos as I could.
As someone who’s followed chappell since before she blew up, I’ve been to her tiny shows, they were amazing w local drag artists, interpersonal and safe BIPOC and lgbtq places, this explosion removes her from that comfort and she’s been open about how hard it’s been for her, she wants to perform, loves to create and be successful. NOT. VIRAL. There’s a vulnerability in her and her creations that can take hard hits from stuff like this. It’s hard.
Going viral would definitely be stressful and I would need help dealing with it. I need a lot of alone time, so I'd take that to myself and kind of step back and think how I continue with my content. I'd try to stay true to myself and not stare at the numbers too much (because if I start to think about only the likes/views whatever, it would make me lose my balance). Great video about the topic and for me it reminded that I need a solid base on my life to be able to handle the visibility that comes with going viral 🦋🦋
The thing with HT girl at 4:48 is she says she THINKS she will be on a bunch of shows. As of now, she doesn’t even KNOW what she will do, so she has nothing in the pipeline. And all that uncertainty after quitting her job is just… I don’t know… not good. I couldn’t sleep at night if I didn’t know what was coming up on the near future 😂
With tyla everyone loved water and it seems like everyone has been loving her new releases too, people also love the fact she’s true to herself, I definitely think if she stays down that path and doesnt let the industry f up her creativity then she will become a big mainstream artist. Not only can she sing, dance, she’s insanely beautiful( naturally too) and with an amazing personality, she’s cultured and humble, and with all of that there’s already people that jealous of her and hate the fact that she got something going for herself. Im really rooting for her.
I did Twitch a few years ago and amongst the other small streamer friends I made, I was popular and had a very small but loyal viewership. It was terrifying at times and I’ve been on hiatus for two years. Gave birth to my first child in that time and want to protect his privacy and the privacy of our second baby I’ll have soon, but I’m so terrified of not being able to protect them or MYSELF from rude comments. It would absolutely destroy my mental health, and I’ve come so far these past 15 years in healing myself. Life online can be nightmare fuel and heavily anxiety inducing.
kinda related, but Chappell Roan used to do meet and greets before concerts but had to stop because people would meet her and just straight up trauma dump on her and tell her super dark details abt their lives, and Chappell said she would have to hear these super traumatic things and then go up on stage like nothing happened, and it rly hurt her mental health so she stopped doing the meet and greets. people forget these viral artists are PEOPLE as well and not just images
Or THERAPISTS 😨😨
I feel like people think that celebrities are just fun toys
Imagine having no mental strength 😭😭😭 she needa stop making music fr💯🤢🤮
I was thinking recently about the 2010s emo scene, and how it was basically the norm at the time to heavily trauma dump on these bands, and how that was not healthy for anyone involved. (The problems within the scene I feel added to this problem.)
I definitely think music can help us heal, I don't think we have to share every detail of that process especially the artist themselves.
That's just awful. And I completely agree. I feel like we view celebrities the same way we view fictional characters. I'm not so delusional to believe that the relationship between celebrities/influencers and their audience will ever be comparable to a one-on-one relationship; the nature of a parasocial relationship is that someone is kind of presenting themselves as a brand/product/character to people, and, in turn, people get attached to this character and give them support. However, I feel like we need a realty check every once in a while that everyone involved in this "relationship" is just a normal, very real, human being, though.
Because people don’t know the difference between going viral and being famous, they end up with false hope during their 5 seconds of fame and think they are freaking Michael Jackson. Being viral is temporary but being famous is forever.
That’s a good way to put it
it’s in the name even, “viral” like an contagious infection that people will find the vaccine for
Exactly...these people are not, nor are they going to get "rich and famous."
This is why I don’t put influencers and celebrities in the same box😂
Shoot being famous ain’t forever either. At least the credits don’t roll once it happens. Life will still be life-ing
The "Hauk Tuah" girl quitting her job after that 5 second viral vid is crazy 😭
I absolutely do not understand the game plan here. Or why she hasn’t don’t merch yet. Last I checked it’s “incoming.”
right like she’s going to be totally forgotten in a couple of months and no longer getting merch deals or interviews or paid public appearances, and then she has no steady income to fall back on. just irresponsible!
@@im_azraelle i wouldn't even say months. Weeks if that
The job may also not want her there because of the attention… that’s deff a distraction
What kinda job tho? If she was working retail or service go on ahead n quit ✋️😄
I find it ridiculous that people think they need to start selling you merch all of a sudden just because they blew up for 5 minutes
What’s ridiculous is so many people like it and buy it.
You only live once why not capitalise for as long as possible
All these useless ass products are making these summer hotter and unbearable.
Make as much money as you can while you can. You know she makes like 85 Grand, that's still more than she would have made at most jobs
@@willofdodge1 yeah, not knocking her hustle. I like to see us all do well, but at the same time we don’t need an over saturation of products for the sake of it.
Honestly, going viral would be my worst nightmare! It just doesn't seem worth the mental health issues.
I went viral once on tiktok and im ngl i turned the comments off 😂you're 100% right. It's NOT worth the mental health issues.
literally. ive already got enough mental health issues, i don’t need more. and the idea of having everything you do put under a microscope for everyone to dissect doesn’t help either.
@@cheesegoblin4lifeespecially when content creators don’t have health care through these platforms
@@cheesegoblin4lifesame. couldn’t handle so many different people nitpicking and judging me for things that are completely normal
@zitorya5786 right?? That's how i felt 😂 ppl were commenting on my face and hair, speculating how i "dont shower" bc my hair was greasy after i came home from a 9 hour shift?? 😂 i was like "sorry, man. That's just what happens." They assume u must be an awful human being for not being perfect all the time.
The Hawk Tuah girl just made a joke that you would make when drunk with your friends. She's a regular person. People need to chill.
I think the issue is majority of Hollywood and influencers are so out of touch with the general public that people are so desperate for some type of normal everyday person they can relate to and she came along. It will just be someone new next week.
she’s the one that needs to chill
i almost had a stroke reading ur comment
@@Cosette_sShould probably practice reading more then. The comment is perfectly fine.
@@Cosette_show.. 😶
People need to lay off Tyla 😭 I’m not a fan but that girl is an amazing performer. I can’t even hold a conversation while walking up a hill and she’s singing while doing an entire aerobics session
It's not that hard to sing & dance simultaneously. & of course you couldn't do it, that's not your profession. That's like me saying: "I can't even cut the fat off of my meat properly while cooking" as an excuse for a bad plastic surgeon who did multiple botched surgeries.
@@IsaedNaurfawn respectfully you wrote a whole lot of nonsense. Its easy to sing and dance, it’s hard to dance and sing WELL(keyword is well).
@@IsaedNaurfawn We have seen many recording artists who CANNOT sing and dance simultaneously.
As someone who is a musician it is hard to sing and dance it takes a lot of stamina and training , being a musician isn't easy no matter what category your in , creative arts in a whole isn't easy , and it's frustrating when people who don't dwell in that category think it's not 😭@@IsaedNaurfawn
@@IsaedNaurfawnthen go do it and become a star and get back to us since it’s not hard
Ice Spice was dancing like she works at the club and she's ready to quit
I thought the same thing!
She is twerking wayyyyy too much she done lost weight tremendously. But I guess it’s a good weight loss routine lmao
It’s called burnout, people be wanting to be famous and not entertainers, performing the same song twice a day for half the year starts breaking you down. You have to have a certain mentality to see all those different experiences as separate things even though there performing the same piece of art, entertainment used to be art, this shidd is trash now.
@@eyebalanceenergy.... Performing the same 3 min song twice a day is tiring 🧐
Heck, Id much rather do that than work 8+ hour shifts as a cook 5-6 days a week with no breaks.
Sign me up!
@@FirstnameLastname-yc2mtThey mean for your mental, when you were clearly not about this rap shit in the first place. For someone trying to go viral while putting minimal effort, yeah this would drive them insane lol
the old adage "dont quit your day job" definitely still applies.
She was unemployed before that clip was posted. Idk why people think she quit her job/got fired after it
She was offered 30k for an appearance, I think in Miami, but I'm not sure, I just know it was 30k.
You'd quit your day job too if you were getting that money for a day of work. It's not gonna last, but that's life changing money.
It's not wealth, but imagine having an extra 30k and other opportunities for appearances and what you could do with that money.
Dude, America has a serious problem if a woman can't publicly say that she's not attracted to a presidential candidate when asked. It's a stupid question to start with. Don't look over that one, that needs a deep dive.
Its not america humans have always been this dumb and tribalistic.
fr it's downright creepy, it's like if christians got mad that someone didn't want to do that stuff with jesus 😭
@@rosesareblue610I mean… some places be adding some nice looking abs on him
Tyla is definitely a good singer. Everyone has off moments
Exactly
She’s actually so ridiculously talented, the people trying to dogpile her are so unserious
She's so young, she needs time to develop her talents and she’ll get better. Everyone falters onstage sometimes
She's a really good singer, she worked on her craft for sure
People are coming for her because they're upset she won't pretend that she's black
If I got viral I would instantly hire a therapist and limit social media time to just posting content.
yeah i would find someone i trusted to manage my socials
viral doesn’t mean you’ll have money for that 😂 you better be able to afford therapy and a manager before because going viral doesn’t really pay you
Yup
Same.
It’s something you can’t really control but to step back
Conservatives being upset that a young woman declined hypothetically spitting on DJTrump's Trump Jr is hilarious to me. 🦋
Right! Expecting a young attractive woman to be attracted enough to Trump to WANT to give him that kind of "service" is DELUSIONAL! He is not a GILF or even a GGILF to MOST women, let alone someone who could pass for his greatgranddaughter! (Doubt his own wives were ever *really* seggsually attracted to him.)
Irrational and ridiculous! (and gross)
That just shows they would hawk tuah on that thing.
@@DJbaddynatty right 😭😭😭 what kind of sick fantasies do they have in their heads?
it honestly sounds fake to me they wouldnt hawk on it either
@@teeteereid8447😂
Calling influencers “celebrities” is a stretch.
Huge ass stretch. 😂
I hate influencers all posers. They are not celebrities
Indeed.
Not really
@@BarbieBizarree how so? They aren’t legitimately famous nor do they have the level of clout and power actual celebrities do. That is why calling an influencer is a stretch.
Every time I hear someone talking about winning the lottery or going viral, I think of the fact that when Eminem first started to make money, he got an accountant to take care of his money and he refuses to even buy a watch without asking his accountant.
Wait fr!!!? Cool fact
@@meghansullivan6812yeah, there's a few smart people like that. Recently a football player made a video going to a car dealership and wanting the cybertruck, dealership quoted the number and he said "i am not the hes man with my money", left the room, made a call, came back and said "my money man says no" and left.
yup I would get a financial advisor too
everyone wanna do a podcast 🙄
Fr it's getting old now
They all want to start a podcast just for the sake of it and not because they actually have an analysis or an experience to share
@@LoXenafor the money
Personally, I don't want a bunch of strangers hearing my unhinged thoughts.
It’s so sad they’re tryna make it good media obsolete
It’s still so wild to me how Megan’s label didn’t want her on that BTS remix, she managed to gain sooo much more fans from that and she’s now in the prime of her career since going independent
Right! I'm soooo glad Megan is out of that 1501 mess and completely independent yet has distribution from Warner Music Group because that's very important, too.
Her team is stupid to not let her work with them
bro fr i didn't know about megan before that except WAP (didn't go into detail about her just listened to the song) and after the Butter remix, i actually got introduced to her and listened to her. her label is so dumb maybe they're jealous of her
@mar35962 I know for a fact that the CEO of 1501 Ent. (the former label in question) is a former MLB player who doesn't know a d*mn thing about the music business and screwed up royally when he decided to give Megan all those problems; prompting her leave to the label & go indie. He had no idea what he was doing. Meg was his *ONLY* multi-platinum selling artist. Oh, well...
Well yeah but no
Ice Spice twerking and seeiming zoned out or "not there" was really sad to see.
_Anyone_ twerking with _any_ expression is really sad to see
@@shirin8609 I've never felt sad watching anyone twerk.
@@ANonymous-gw2cs
I’m guessing your not a father of a daughter.
Yeah 😢 Everyone hating on her twerking and judging her but not asking themselves what could REALLY be going on behind the scenes and is she happy and okay…? Because her face tells a lot
@@majestieyangxue3014
It can be a painful awakening that a large portion (some would say ‘all’) of one’s selling point and appeal, exists in the size and shape of their gluteus maximus and mammary glands and how they are wobbled to various rhythms with some sounds coming out of one’s mouth in the background.
Hopefully she can repackage her product into something more fulfilling and meaningful for her longevity in this industry. Maybe she could listen to rapsody if she into conscious rap.
This makes me thinks about Brittany Broski as a positive exemple of going viral. In my opinion, she had a very smooth transition from tiktok to youtube and now podcasts. I think she managed to gather a fanbase, it took her a lot of work but she's now a very succesful internet celebrity. And i think the key is that she was able to stay authentic and make the content she truly likes!
Wow what a great example! So true
She also didn’t want to quit her job but she got fired because of the kombucha meme! So she really worked hard to make an actual career from it.
Because she actually has a personality and is funny beyond what she went viral for.
I was looking for this comment. She’s a very down to earth funny person who was actually capable of expanding beyond her viral moment.
she was viral before tiktok existed. she originated on vine
First time seeing this Hawk Tuah shit and....all I can think of is how that was even funny
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It just seems like a normal kind of sexual joke you would make with friends.
I could’ve sworn this was a trend like 5 years ago w/ the gawk gawk 3000 joke???
It’s mainly men that find it funny. 🤷🏽♀️
The ones making a thing out of it are men 😭 the mfs who have never seen a female in their life but also we know they will take any chance they can get when it comes to sexualising women lmaoo i ain’t even surprised
@@nickj12yeah apparently this is the bar for male comedy
Going viral is akin to being on a season of a reality TV show - you get your 15 minutes, but it doesn’t guarantee a lengthy or stable career.
Yes and it takes a lot if business acumen to understand how to go from that to making money and maintaining relevance. In addition to that, you're super screwed if there's a hitch in the plan like getting kicked off the show early. All in all, the viral to famous pipeline has grown over saturated with people tryna sell something we no longer want to buy
This is another great way to put it!
In Poland we have this woman who went viral from being "Miss Euro 2012" (soccer championships). her influencer career is still going strong 12 years later...its crazy
🦋 I hate when people recognize me from like college or old jobs…going viral sounds like a unique flavor of hell
Lol yes
"This random 21 year old said she wouldnt go down on Trump, we hate her now"
That's the dumbest reason to hate on a person
w random 21 year old
And yet they're convinciting the poor man for having sex with a porn star more like wanting to add more problems to him
A good example would be the chickfila sauce girl. She tried to hold on to that clout but there was literally nothing much that could come after that, especially considering it wasn’t that viral worthy
what did she go viral for? like the pink sauce lady
@@leena5875 look up chickfila sauce girl. She literally went viral for saying do you want any chickfila sauce
@@leena5875 iirc her claim to fame was just making funntmy faces while taking someones order at chickfila. I think she got fired for it too which also gained publicity
@@leena5875acting silly basically, nothing much to go off of
@@leena5875it was just a girl working as a cashier at chick-fil-a and the costumer asked for no chick-fil-a sauce and she had an over exaggerated reaction with her facial expressions and all
That one guy who got rejected from acting school, suddenly went viral and a lot of people were harrassing multiple schools for not accepting him. Suddenly, he was at an exclusive event just cause his situation went viral.
omggg that guy who lived in the tiny apartment despite having rich parents, right 😂 wasn't it Julliard?
Even if you win a 10M dollar jackpot, don’t quit your job or quit working at all. That’s a recipe for depression.
EDIT: Pursuing hobbies is a type of work too. Anything that keeps you busy, achieving, and gives your life sustenance is a job.
For those claiming that a hobby isn’t a job, it can be. My hobby is my job and my main source of income. It’s definitely possible.
@@surfertsunami9355 as people need to feel useful and do something with themselves
Yeah I feel like life would just be an empty void lol. Work helps keep my mind occupied, and helps me feel confident in my abilities
Not really. There is a right way and a wrong way to do this. Unfortunately, most people go about it the wrong way.
@@lettterstocranes Plenty of people feel useful doing hobbies and volunteer work. Like, rescuing animals or feeding the homeless. Much more fulfilling tbh.
@@lettterstocranes yeah on a job they love not hate
The thing about the Hawk Tuah girl is what is the show gonna be about? How is this gonna last more than a few months? And who will hire her after this knowing what she got famous for? Im concerned for her
Right it will not last the only thing I can think of is her starting a podcast and it blowing up that's it really
If she was smart she’d discuss sex positivity/sexuality similar to Angela Yee
It’s gonna be the female version of Ryan lochte’s show. Look up the video of Philly news anchors laughing at him while interviewing him about the show.
She gotta learn the hard way
im pretty sure the hawk tuah girl makes music n has been before but took the clip as a way to 'boost her career' ig? so shell prolly sing
I remember reading some comment that was brilliant that said that so many people chase attention and followers online thinking that's success, when in reality, if you have one or two close friends, you've done well.
Imagine having a million people following you around in real life!?! No one would like that, substantive relationships are where it’s at.
I wish female pop/r&b/hip hop artists didn’t feel so compelled to highly sexualize themselves. Even Beyoncé has ramped it up over time.
some do it because they only it in for the money and fame,so many female rappers and even male have said they only rap for fame and money
This.
Their handlers are telling them to do all those things. And when they decided to sign that contract, that’s what they signed up for.
@@anonnnymousthegreat thats a lie people tell themself.they do it because they in it for the money not because they love it
I would expect it from the new coming artist they think it's a must, but from Beyonce it was a turn off from me she's well established,has fan base, she's a billionaire she can just sit and do nothing and will be all over her music. I was really disappointed actually
Adding to what I said as well Chappell has been in the scene for over a decade now, singing in small hometown stuff and working to get to where she is. Virality removes and erases the sheer amount of work it took for her to get here
this!!!! some people are calling her an industry plant bc they only see that her album blew up
The reason why I wouldn’t loop Tyla into this conversation though is that I think becoming mainstream and viral are two different things. In Africa, she had clout and she’s been in the game for a minute so it’s not like she suddenly woke up and had clout. She just finally got exposure in the US.
Great comment, we knew Tyler before the world did..
I think I would like to go viral, but only after I have a collection of content already out, so that people have context for what I had been like in the past. Like if I went viral for a dance video for example, sure I'd post more dance videos but I would want there to be an existing catalog of videos or content that is a better representation of myself than a single dance video.
What a thoughtful thing to say. That's an incredibly informed take on vitality, its temporariness and the ideal situation to be in if one does go viral.
Fr, asking hawk tuah if she was gonna start a podcast was a stupid question
I hate when people look at one clip we’re an artist messes up and there like “tHeY cAnT sInG” like every singer messes up and that doesn't make them a bad singer
honestly i could never go viral, i can't barely stand having people looking at me in the streets 😭 🦋
I can't either 😂😂
Yes! I've considered making vids on various topics related to the modern state of negativity, social issues, dating problems, inspire to widen perspectives or shift their mindset towards positivity. I've had several ppl tell me I should... but the idea of showing my face online? Potentially being known by hundreds or thousands of ppl? That's what stops me.
@@justacoginthefkery You don't need to show your face to share your thoughts with everyone.
You can simply put out a podcast.
Good luck.
@@justacoginthefkery yeah i totally get it but a fun way to share your social and political opinions would be to create your own blog, that way you don’t have to show your face !! especially if that’s something you’re really passionate about 🫶🏽
Haha 😂😂 when people do this I get so angry and mad
Artists (whether it be singers, dancers, bands.etc) are the last to get paid and the most exploited by the music industry, especially by labels. The Pussycat dolls dancers made todays equivalent to $800 a week despite selling millions. The Dallas cowboy cheerleaders were getting less than $200 a game until they petitioned and got minimum wage. Singers are given loans as an advance to make albums that they have to pay back to the record label by their sales, before the singer gets to profit. And that’s only talking about those artists who made it; not the poverty level hopefuls trying to get an opportunity to show their gifts.
Imagine petitioning to get minimum wage after all that work
At this point, no one needs a label when you have all this technology and apps. Ppl that have talent can capitalize on tik tok, RUclips and other apps. Look at Chloe and Halle Bailey. They were RUclipsrs who were seen by Beyoncé. Look at DDG. Another successful youtube rapper. The new country artist Tanner Adell was also seen by Beyoncé on TikTok and was on her country album and now literally her music plays in the gym on the radio. I’m not sure why anyone would feel they need a label these days. I sure wouldn’t
@@noirefit5954you can't get on a megastar level without labels, they're still gatekeepers. All the people you mentioned are signed now
The fact that people are mad at a woman for saying she doesn’t want to sleep with a man is pathetic. No one owes anyone access to their body.
Yeah and imagine he's being convicted for sleeping with a porn star imagine he gets accused of such thing what are we coming to the world is full of hypocrites! 🤦🏻♀️
Ppl mad cuz she doesn’t want to engage with a creepy old man is insane
It’s her body
They can do it if they are that enraged😂
I agree with your thoughts. To me, going viral you can either 1-fade into obscurity and continue living your life with someone recognizing you every now and then, 2- you find a niche and actually build a long lasting career 3- your less than favorable past is discovered and exposed and you fade into obscurity always wondering what could’ve been, 4- you make a terrible joke or doing something offensive, lose all your brand deals and fade into obscurity.
I personally like my current life in obscurity 😂
As someone who has never used TikTok and only casually checks out social media, it's so strange when suddenly some new celebrity just pops into mainstream and I have no idea where they came from or what they do. I've heard of Ice Spice but I don't know a single song from her. I've heard of Charlie D'Amelio but I have no idea why she's a celebrity. I think this shows that the public is also having these viral people thrust at us and immediately expecting us to accept them, but there are so many being thrown at us that eventually they fall out of interest. Then these new celebrities clamor to stay relevant and maintain their popularity which I imagine can be very stressful.
I just had my first piece of content go viral on tiktok and has been going since two days ago. More specifically it's related to my ceramics business which I've run for almost two years so to now have over 6 million views and 725k likes is really surreal. And I didn't expect all the negative comments. it also feels a little dystopian in the way that the comments start to feel robotic? like I could separate them into very specific categories. I kept reading through so people know where to send commissions but boy oh boy its hijacked my brain for the last couple days and it makes me wonder why anyone would want this on a regular basis. I get money but my god, I can't deal with that many people having access to me like this every day.
Dont let it get to you!! What's the business name 💗 people are so negative
Well hopefully it helps boom your business : )
Thank you for sharing. I'm concerned seeing so many people want to become viral. It's not as glamorous as people think it is. Steady growth is not a bad thing 💜
I think if you’re selling an actual product that has value, social media will always be, like, accessory. It’s not the same as being a social media ‘personality’ where all you’re marketing is your (non existent) personality 😂
It feels robotic because a lot of comments are in fact just bots. I am not joking, look up the term "ghost internet", it means that the internet has so much automatic comments that gives the impression of being human, but in fact are not human
I think another layer missing here not talked about is the misogyny around virality, a lot of these examples are women and women tend to go more viral than men but are subjected to worse treatment...another can of worms to open but something to think about that shouldn't be ignored.
girl ur locs r so pretty 😩😩
I’ll take a slow but steady rise to “fame” over going viral any day. I think that grind not only prepares you for the moment you finally do go viral but also gives you the skills to capitalize on it since you had to go through so much trial and error to get there in the first place.
honestly in tylas case, you can find videos as far back as 2017 of her saying she's gonna be famous and she wants to be a star. she is genuinely talented, and she deserves everything good that comes to her because in hand with going viral, she worked extremely hard
Thank you!! I'm not even a fan but dammit this almost feels unfair and like the issue goes beyond this narrative that she's not talented. Throw it away!
For me, i think its started to become a micro-trend thing in a way. Someone becomes viral from one video, have a couple days of fame and then a new person is found that does something better. Like the huak tuah girl was probably viral for a week max, and miss girl quit her job 😭
I am a very private person and a bit of a loner! I would be mortified to "go viral"!! 🦋🦋🦋
Tyla was stood still... Are we watching 2 different videos 😂. She dropped one note. All other performances have been fine. Life happens.
So there’s no chance she was dancing 10 seconds before that clip?! You’ve never walked up a set of stairs and been out of breath for the next 30-60 seconds? She’s got to get on stage for a whole set and dance and are expected to hit every note - sometimes multiple nights a week!!
Everyone has off moments.
Nobody is perfect
Singing and dancing at the same time isn't about ability and experience. Its about putting in the work. If Tyla wants to prioritize Singing well she needs a voice coach if she doesn't have a natural gift. If she wants to perform, get on a treadmill and sing. It will help her endurance. Just for that perspective.
" isn't about ability and experience. Its about putting in the work."
So it's about ability and experience...
i think ppl think fame is only a positive thing, but think abt the things we take for granted as regular ppl, when ur famous you will never have privacy again, your business is everyone’s business, when ur famous you can never reverse it and be a regular unknown person again, you have been thrusted into the public eye, ur mind and life will be altered forever, in my opinion in this day and age of social media over saturation, not having fame is taken for granted
Well said my brother
When you go viral without actually having any musical talent & release songs with atrocious lyrics - that's Ice Spice, a prime example of decline in music. Previously, artists had to do gigs at clubs and bars to get famous, now you need to be viral on ticktock. There has been a sharp decline in song writing since the late 90's when popstars started to get pushed by labels instead of people who could actually write songs and play an instrument
There were still viral hits from random artists back then. They're called "one hit wonders." An artist that has one big hit song.
@@princessmorebucks Hits are not equal to brain rot music with least effort possible
I think Brittany Broski is great example of viral fame going _right_ . She got famous because let's face it, a dumb, viral video shot her into the spotlight. *But* she's been able to maintain momentum because she's smart, likeable and true to herself. Whereas the 'hauk tuah' girl just doesn't seem equipped to deal with all the sudden attention. The problem is you don't know how someone's gonna handle something like that until it happens.
Also within that Brittany took a step back and asked herself who she'd appeal to best and then aggressively (in a good way) penetrated that audience/market. I say this because i remember her going viral and then the next thing she was hanging out with Drag Race winner, Trixxie Mattel. There's at least 2 or 3 audiences that she could appeal to and with a co-sign from an already well-known public figure within the LGBTQ/millennial/now Gen Z communities there was a clear opportunity to capitalise
Yeah I just can’t stand her takes on Palestine though.
@@KristenZianourry2015 oh no :( what are her takes
@@sprinkles06 you’re gonna have to look up to see if someone saved the video she deleted complaining about how it’s not her job to talk about these things because she’s only an influencer
@@KristenZianourry2015 Oh, okay. I thought it was that she was for Israel 😭 that's not too bad? A lot of people are putting pressure on their favorite influencers to talk about things when they want their page to be about positivity and whatnot. Idk. Talking about things are important, especially this, but we are all aware of the genocide, just doing your part as best you can, donating, boycotting, is, well the best you can right? You don't owe to tell that to people. Then again there's no harm in telling ppl haha. IDK I'm not an influencer
If she hasn't talked about other serious stuff then I mean that's not out of the ordinary for her right?
I realized the absurdity of all this when the "host" asked the huak tuah girl, " You going to have a podcast"... A podcats to say what??! What is her contribution on what topic? This is exactly how mediocrity is bred, the girl is super young and has barely any life experience... She is going to be referred to some people who are going to completely take advantage of her, because nobody will take her seriously and she totally blew up her reputation down the line... When you get a massive amount of "recognition" without any work, without any talent you're not grounded in anything, what's left is you, you become your own product and brand and I think many people start losing it because all the boundaries start to blur there is no distinction between who you are, what you do.
🦋 i hope i will never go viral in a way that i like my privacy and being able to do whatever i want without people really staring. i honestly really desire a quiet life. the money is probably good, i want to live more whimsically, but i'll make that work on my own term.
And I think artists that blow up because of one thing are so afraid to stray from that. Ice Spice’s music literally all sounds the same, and Tyla, I can’t tell Art and Water apart honestly. I thought they were the same song. 🦋
great analysis and ily girl but its pronounced chapel like a church not chappelle like dave 😭
lol I realized that when editing🙃
until i heard someone say it i legit thought it was pronounced chappelle ro-an 😭😭 so glad i never said never said that out loud lmao
@@littlewyzardsame here 😭 i still slip up sometimes
You're annoying 💀
I feel like Tyla her team is very predatory. The amount of performances she has to do and interviews about things that she doesn’t feel comfortable about.
All this fame reminds me off an old song that describes the phenomanon perfectly; “Stars in their eyes”
I agree. I remember that one show I think for Halloween? Ik she was dressed up and looked really uncomfortable and constantly pulling her skirt down bcs of how short it was
@@kickmuncher3 true
@@kickmuncher3And I don't understand why some people like you are just so mean about that. I am perfectly sure none of them know what would happen and it isn't in "tHe CoNtrAct"
Because that fake innocent if u believe it, u end up doing it too. Im with them, shes an adult, she kniws what shes doing.
@@AmbientofLight "sHeS aN aDulT" She's a 19TEEN yo against a machine. A famously predatory one. She doesn't stand an actual chance if she signed
Imagine not liking someone anymore because they wouldn't huak tua on donald trumps thang
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i’m so happy that you made this video because it’s been something i’ve been trying to tell people for a long time. i think that the public creates insane parasocial relationships with celebrities and they stop viewing them as a person, and more so as an extension of themselves.
as a (somewhat) creative who IS trying to build a platform off of creating content, going viral is my worst nightmare lmao 😭🦋
It's almost a guarantee fall off
@Z5Z5Z5 definitely, theres no loyalty in virality so once youre not shiny and new the audience stops caring. Then you have nothing to fall back on.
I dont get why people wanna go viral so bad fr
@@umbrie11a It's because a lot of those people just want fame, they don't actually want to become famous for something they are good at or enjoy doing
@umbrie11a and fast enough a few months after going viral people on social media will start to hate on you and claim that you were not worth the hype, i see this with every new celebrity who becomes a hot topic
@@Boooo_39 the fame brainrot is so bad these days
Doja said I wanna be racist without question and black women said “yes please”
She gets dragged by black women every time she does dumb sh!t. It was black men who gave her permission before they found out she will never date black guys.
Towards black men, which I don’t care.
We should care
@@Heyitschy03 exactly why I said black women… and it’s a shame. Because if the shoe was on the other foot… man… but I don’t hate black women like some do us so imma mind mine
@@valeriaramirez2586 I don’t.
Lmfaoooo the hack tuah one 😂😂😂😂😂 the lights are on but there’s no one there. Her interview looked like a snl skit 😂😂😂😂😂
These famous rich people make me resent a lonely, pointless, broke existence. I hope it ends before I see how much better life gets.
The famous rich people wish they had a simple anonymous life like you. Find things to appreciate about your life and figure out what is meaningful to you ✨️
We always want what we don't have because we don't fully understand it
The good days are now. Once these days pass, you look back and miss them and remember all the good stuff. So enjoy it, all the good stuff.
Real
They are more stressed and depressed than you realise.More money means more
problems.Bigger bills,more scheduled,more responsibilities and a ton of people wanting stuff from you and hedging on your to succeed for their monthly pay.
Tyla is gorgeous can dance and sing. All of her songs are definitely songs that she sings.
The problem is that to too many people only the adjective matters
You’re giving ice spice a little too much credit 😅 I don’t think her team is forcing her. She has a ghost writer and is light skin and thick. She wanted to be famous and decided that was the lane she knew best but I don’t think she’s dying to stretch her creative wings 😅 she seems to be in kahoots with them more so
this is so insensitive.
Man face it the girl can only make the same son again and again no creativity in sight
She is not a creative, she is not an artist. She is someone who wanted to be famous and used rap as her medium to get there, that’s it, that’s all.
Oh I def think she writes those weak ass bars
this stinks of internalized mysgony
🦋celebrities and plebs alike do not deserve blind positivity. Period. No matter how they got the attention to start.
Tyla shouldn't be on this list. She's been at it since 2019 and only recently blew up internationally. Besides, she CAN actually sing and dance unlike having one "catchy" moment
She’s been putting in the work!!!!
🦋 I feel like many just love to hate publicly on famous or rich people and forget that they're people too and can have a hard time too 😭
the amount of people who see somebody has gone through something and they trauma dump their own issues onto a situation makes me so uncomfortable. there's a time and place for everything, someone else's trauma is not an opportunity for you to dump your own on top of theirs.
The Hawk Tuah girl is dropping like sooo much merch and I feel bad that she’s gonna lose a lot of money on that. Bc no one’s gonna buy it and all the comments were making fun of her 😭
Idk, she’s made 300k on merch so far
@@digitalisss blows my mind, who could possibly be buying that
@@digitalisss really?! Bro who’s buying that no offense to her but I don’t think people would want those words on a T shirt 😭😭
She would be a good guest on the Call Her Daddy podcast, maybe even make money as a recurring appearance
Saw ice spice open for doja cat and hearing an entire arena explode in screams and cheers as soon as she turned around to shake her butt is one of the wildest things I’ve experienced.
I will agree that ice spice is objectively bad at music. A lot of her lyrics are repetitive and it doesn't really feel like she cares about her art.
That being said, i absolutely love her because i can't think of a single other rapper who could, with a completely sound mind, put the the lyrics "you think you the shit bitch, you aint even the fart" into a song much less use it as the main line the rest of the song is based off of.
I can give her that, it's kind of iconic as a clip 😂
The thing is, so many artists turn out line after line like this. They fill entire verses with these quips, even when they only have a one hit wonder. Even WAP alone, is full of these types of hilarious punchlines.
It's my favourite thing she's done, but sadly there's not a lot of competition there
I don't think she even wrote that 😂
A lot of music is repetitive tho. + thts the kind of rap she does. Drill is repetitive and ESPECIALLY ny drill. Remember PopSmoke (rip)? Not to mention she’s only had a few tracks before she went viral. Writing as a 16 year old💀 Now she’s kinda stuck writing the way tht got her attention. But her beats fr suck lol.
“Shit” is a troll song and not to be taken srs lmao and other rappers do it as well💀 em made his whole career off of troll songs, so did sexy red.
It's really not something to admire.
One other factor to always kepp in mind is that Ice Spice is a woman in hip hop, like many others she is going to be held at an insanely high standard compared to her male counterparts. The Pop Smoke example (and I'm sure artists that are more inept or just as elementary as Ice Spice) is a fairly good one
People need to leave Tyla alone😭😭😭she’s always minding her business
i disagree with tyla being in this category only because In comparison to tiktok stars and ice spice she actually has talent imo and makes great music
i think i had a better life before knowing hawk tuah girl, like wtf...
🦋🦋🦋I really appreciate your chill, down to earth perspective, and very much enjoyed listening to your take on these trending topics. Thanks for keeping it real and being unafraid to speak out about the massive "elephant in the room", that is somehow easy for everyone else to ignore, which is such an absurdity to me. This is yet another example of just how pervasive society's cognitive dissonance truly is. They ignore reality in favor of the fantasy, not realizing that it's that fantasy itself is unfortunately riddled with toxicity. It's pretty sad to think about, actually😟.
I feel like bhad bhabie is the perfect example of capitalizing off of her fame to the fullest extent, she made a legitimate rapping career and broke out from being the cash me outside girl into forming her own identity, she even made 10 or 20 mil from OF the girl is set for life and is still relevant years later but ion see ice spice or anyone else doin that they can easily be replaced in a week
They steal your light and make money off of it. Which in turn, dims that light. Because it's not being fed like it was in the beginning. A person's talent is special. It's a piece of them. It's hard to do that 24/7. It will drain you🕯
The one time I went mini 'viral' on SM platforms in my country, it pretty much traumatized me because I ended up getting attacked by incels for how I look. From petty remarks commenting on my face, my teeth, even the space between my brows ?? (comparing me to Sid from Ice Age) - to even making remarks like "I'll just cover her face and do her". I was literally scared of stepping out of my home. This happened in October 2022, and the fears still remain today, in July 2024.
Omg im so sorry, people can be so mean hiding behind a screen, i know you are a beautiful person 💫
So sorry it happened to you :/. How many views do you consider "mini viral" ? Genuinely asking, like 2 millions -1 millions would be considered viral ?
To be clear, that girl seems cool, I hope she got a nice bonus for her moment of fame and doesn't get any consequences for it, that she can peacefully go on with her life. And I'm grateful I live in a time that finds it kind of fun and relateable and is almost no one is shaming her.
But like, what is there to make a show about? We dont know her for anything deep, and we dont know any of her depth as a person from her famous clip, we don't know her!
There's literally a classic Simpsons episode about this concept; a regular person making a funny quip at the right time on camera, going viral, getting commercial deals, then getting reduced down to the meme by everyone until they're sick of it 😂
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@@kickmuncher3 First you called the joke “immature and gross” and now you’re upset by someone saying it was relatable..guess what..adults have sex 😱 and an adult having sex does not make them a bad person 😱
@@idontwantacupcake241 Why, yes I did call it immature and gross. Congratulations, you can read lol. And not upset that one found it relatable, just grossed out lol. And what?! I had no idea 😱🤯…. You mean to tell me adults have sex?? 😂 duh, I know. And no of course it doesn’t make one a bad person, never said that. You brought that one up lol but you don’t have to be immature about sex as the girl was in the video. That’s the annoying part. I just find those who find sex “funny” are immature. As an adult, I don’t find “hauk tu” funny. It’s just childish behavior is all.
I feel so sad for Ice Spice. She went viral because she got a lot going on back there and they made that her whole brand. They reduced her to her ass. Shit, I'd be sick too if that was all I was known for, throwing it back and rapping about it..
she did that to herself,she was twerking on tiktok before the music
she reduced herself to that tho, thats all she ever presented herself as since the start. even her tiktoks before she became famous. and have u read her songs. its just that typa girl
@@cloudyskiees idk.. just because she likes to show off, like a lot of people, doesn't mean thats all she can offer. She looks good and has a nice flow, her songs are fun to listen to imo..
The thing is that she's just kind of tired of it all, i think.
She's still so new to all of this fame and had so many concerts already. Her song blew up and all of a sudden she had fame.
That's a lot of attention in a short period of time.
'Ice Spice' also has to stay relevant, at least i think that's a common way to stay famous, because money, manager, .. That can be pretty tough on your mind and body.
I understand the way you think, tho, don't get me wrong.
Scar Lip was one person that definitely was moved by her team to do things that she clearly didn’t want to do hella awkward
Modern Day Lesson - Save your PTO & Vacation time not only in case you walk outside and your car doesn’t start but also JUST in case you go VIRAL, you have to have a mean hustle to flip a viral moment into generational wealth.
i get anxious if i get 5+ comments on a twitter post, the viral life is NOT for me! i don’t want to be perceived
Literally me. Do not look at me
I'm a very small DJ. This weekend I was on a music festival with my friends. Randomly a guy came up to me, shouting my stage name and said that he saw on my ig that i'm there and then asked me for a picture. It was a first for me and honestly.. it was terrifying in some way. I can't imagine going viral tbh.
I remember when a video of mine went popular on Tiktok for at least 2 months, and I don't really post (I've got like 7 videos), and I remember being creeped out that so many people liked it and started following me. It was like "That's all you're gonna get from that's worth while, stop keeping tabs on me", but I used it as an opportunity to spread as many free Palestine and Congo + Anti Woman Abuse videos as I could.
the way that fame can occur and the just disappear over night is absolutely insane to me. going viral seems like a scary thing in this age🦋
Wait, why is Tyla in it 😭😭 i get that Water was viral but that girl has been singing and performing in South Africa before then lol what the hell
there's a 'dance monkey' element in virality that's always made me uncomfy since the early 2010s. like, it's so wierd to me
That tyla clip made me sad bc just one bad singing moment can ruin how others perceive your talent:(
As someone who’s followed chappell since before she blew up, I’ve been to her tiny shows, they were amazing w local drag artists, interpersonal and safe BIPOC and lgbtq places, this explosion removes her from that comfort and she’s been open about how hard it’s been for her, she wants to perform, loves to create and be successful. NOT. VIRAL. There’s a vulnerability in her and her creations that can take hard hits from stuff like this. It’s hard.
Going viral would definitely be stressful and I would need help dealing with it. I need a lot of alone time, so I'd take that to myself and kind of step back and think how I continue with my content. I'd try to stay true to myself and not stare at the numbers too much (because if I start to think about only the likes/views whatever, it would make me lose my balance). Great video about the topic and for me it reminded that I need a solid base on my life to be able to handle the visibility that comes with going viral 🦋🦋
‘Ice spice’ and ‘talent’ are two concepts I wouldn’t use in the same sentence.
The amount of creative control the agencies have over their artists seem crazy to me. Be careful of the contracts you sign, people.
ice spice soullessly twerking I was dead 😂😂
Love your serene demeanor. Makes the video calming to watch/listen to, subject asides.
The thing with HT girl at 4:48 is she says she THINKS she will be on a bunch of shows. As of now, she doesn’t even KNOW what she will do, so she has nothing in the pipeline. And all that uncertainty after quitting her job is just… I don’t know… not good. I couldn’t sleep at night if I didn’t know what was coming up on the near future 😂
she was probably working in a cheesecake factory shell be okay
your hair is so pretty
With tyla everyone loved water and it seems like everyone has been loving her new releases too, people also love the fact she’s true to herself, I definitely think if she stays down that path and doesnt let the industry f up her creativity then she will become a big mainstream artist. Not only can she sing, dance, she’s insanely beautiful( naturally too) and with an amazing personality, she’s cultured and humble, and with all of that there’s already people that jealous of her and hate the fact that she got something going for herself. Im really rooting for her.
The way she proclaimed her bipolar disorder was beautiful
I did Twitch a few years ago and amongst the other small streamer friends I made, I was popular and had a very small but loyal viewership. It was terrifying at times and I’ve been on hiatus for two years. Gave birth to my first child in that time and want to protect his privacy and the privacy of our second baby I’ll have soon, but I’m so terrified of not being able to protect them or MYSELF from rude comments. It would absolutely destroy my mental health, and I’ve come so far these past 15 years in healing myself. Life online can be nightmare fuel and heavily anxiety inducing.