As always, very helpful and informative. As someone with Ehlers Danlos syndrome, I find myself coming to this channel a lot for the clearest explanation of my various injuries!
Interesting, I thought for sure I had a rotor cuff tear but I easily did those tests. Now I feel a little better it might be something different thanks for the video very helpful.
Bob! Brad! Thank you so much for this channel , you have helped me recover a few different injuries. I recommend you all the time. Bless you both and your team!
I had a mildly painful shoulder for a week or two. Got up one morning and tugged on my quilt with my right arm. I heard a loud pop with sudden intense pain. I fail all 3 of those tests. I see my orthopedic surgeon tomorrow. He did rotator cuff surgery on my left shoulder just this past April 2017. I have a feeling I have a tear and am probably looking at surgery again. The pain this time is much worse than with my left shoulder, plus I'm right handed, so a painful right shoulder is making life interesting, from pulling up pants and a bra to driving. You guys are wonderful! I know I'm looking at physical therapy after surgery.
I experienced a loud pop with minimal pain while pushing off the ground about a week ago. I have minimal pain/pressure that seems to move from the front, side, and back of the shoulder. My daily activities are not impacted, but I have tried to reduce aggravating the joint and muscles. I’ve dine all the test without weakness and no/minimal pain/pressure. The two test that I felt minimal pain/pressure is the lift-off test and teres minor test. Thanks to you I’m not panicking while waiting for my appt that’s several weeks away.
Was out metal detecting; went to push up with my right arm while getting off the ground ( hey, it was a deep target I was digging)...snap! crackle! pop! Couldn't swing my detector side-to-side and had trouble putting my gear in the bed of my truck. When I got home I could hardly reach across to the passenger side sun visor to push the garage door opener. Seeing my Doc on Monday. Great video, fellas, very informative and helpful.
You guys are hilarious. Cheers me up a bit about being a sedentary 30-year-old who somehow managed to fuck up his rotator cuff by partaking in absolutely no athletic activity to speak of.
@@Oldundead9491 lmao, I fucked mines up by hill bombing 40 mph on a skateboard and falling straight on the back of my shoulder on a curb. Did your stop hurting???? Please answer cuz I’m worried
hopefully someone can answer this, i've been advised that the only way to re-attach is by way of surgery. the surgeon i'm seeing does this operation the old fashion way... my question is, is it a quicker, better job, and shorter recovery to have it done by arthroscopy instead?
Excellent video, thanks so much. Had shoulder pain from lifting weights, and layed off for two weeks. No pain now and did your tests without pain. Peace of mind, thanks.
The Rotator Cuff tear isn’t so bad, but the recovery from surgery is brutal. I tore mine doing Muay Thai & another time doing MMA, then I went to get it checked. I had the surgery when I was 25. But I do recommend getting it fixed ASAP & by god do the rehab! Especially home work outs!
Tried the tests. Panicked when I couldn't do them. Tried again more slowly and deliberately it made my shoulder pop loudly. Suddenly nothing hurts and I can pass all the tests. I don't know what it was but this guy is going to integrate a lot of light weight low impact shoulder exercises to my regimen! Thanks for the tips!
This injury is a right sh!!.I've had it for 35 year's, an old weight lifting injury. I was booked in for surgery 4 years ago but being self employed had to cancel. They told me I couldn't work for 3 months. I'd lose my house and starve to death. Damn this pain!
i pass all these test now,i damn near pulled my arm off myself(accident) back in HS,my left arm was throbbing and i could feel every heart beat going into my arm while it went numb,never went to doctor,main pain disappered but every once in a while it would come back and i couldn't lift my arm above my shoulder without pain but now my arm is all good no surgerory.i told this experience to a neighbor who has experience in physical therapy,he asked me to move my arm this way and every which way asking if i felt a click.i finally found a click which was a"throwing a football" motion and he told me that yes i messed up my rotator cuff
I'm sorry I was having pain and watching videos about rotator cuff problems, but I am so glad I saw this! You guys are hilarious! Thanks for your videos!!!
1 - no pain 2 - some pain 3 - no pain 4 - no pain. My main problem is lifting my hand over 45 degrees. It was worse during the first day after the injury though. Ideas?
@@khulenduku1215 it happened right before Christmas, it took me around a month to heal to the point I'd not feel pain when lifting my hand. And maybe another for it to feel stronger. If you're having the same of similar injury, I recommend to do the exercises from this video and channel, it helped a lot, and stay off gym or any other activity that makes your shoulder hurt until you feel its strong enough. I did the mistake and that would set me back a lot.
Thanks guys, it made sense. I had an operation 3 months ago for a rotator cuff tear at last. I went to numerous doctors before a doctor actually sent me to a specialist to check it out and I was operated within 3 days. Either Australian doctors are stupid in this field or it is difficult to assess shoulder problems. so many years pain for nothing. I wish this had been explained to me before, instead of being told to put up with the pain. I am glad I finally found a doctor to listen to me, and now I have a good physio who is great with aftercare.
This was very helpful to me. I have had an issue the past month or two with my LEFT shoulder. I believe it to be a rotator cuff problem. hopefully it's not severe. May have to have it imaged to make sure. In a week I will talk to my primary doctor about it. Thanks for this video!
Thanks for your videos. They were very helpful for me. I had shoulder surgery last December and now reaching my break even point where I'm better off now than before my surgery. Except for the pain and sleeping. I'm passing on a tip to reduce pain without meds. Taping. My physical therapist applied some tape from my shoulder to my mid back. Worked wonders. I sleep much better with the tape and my chronic pain is much less.
Hey guys, I am watching your video in Australia. I have just had a hip replacement and watched your hip videos initially. Now it looks like I may have torn my rotated cuff and am looking at this video... Your videos are fantastic. Thanks for posting them
You guys are great! Thanks. I personally love your light-hardheartedness. It makes it easier to remember what you have shown/taught. There are enough of the boring, monotonic anatomy teachers on the net for those that want pure fact! Please keep them coming.
84 years old and had right arm tear last year. Now 1and a half years later did the left arm. Just had MTI to be sure. Operation coming up soon. I feel I'm pretty good at what to. So not looking forward to it. 6 weeks and I'll be good as new. As new as I can e at 84.
I do boxing. I know I overtrained my shoulders by doing speed bag, then I was doing hard right hooks and I felt a little pain and after an hour it got worse. Now I pass all these tests, but mine might be a nerve issue because I feel the pain from shoulder to the palm
Your guys are classic. You killed it on this one Brad. Bring it in Nancy. You guys are such a comedy duo you don't even know it. Also, thanks for the tips!
This video narrowed it down for me I been dealing with shoulder pain for over a month I have those 3 signs of a rotator cuff tear I thought at first it was a nerve problem because I had neck pain in the beginning now I know I most definitely know I have a tear thanks so much for this video it really helped me.
I was told rotator cuff tears don't heal on their own. I fell down the stairs onto a concrete floor on to my left side. I had an open wound fracture (ulnar side). They did surgery & put a steel plate in & cleaned it out. Couldn't have MRI at hospital. I have a pacemaker that's safe for MRIs but it has to be a closed MRI & only certain hospitals are trained in the proper protocols for patient w/ implanted devices. I also have to have a technician from the device company come out & switch my pacemaker into a different mode. So anyway I had an MRI later & it didn't show a tear but the Dr said it looks stretched or overextended. He said there could be a microscopic tear but he can't see anything other then it being stretched out. I got a steroid injection but haven't got much relief. He said PT won't heal it but it's still good to get stronger around the area. PT helped somewhat but the little sport where it really hurts never gets better. I want to see if platelet rich plasma therapy would help. I probably can't afford it though.
Dont forget Speeds Test to test biceps long head. It's not a rotator cuff mm but it aids in stabilizing the humeral head and is often implicated in shoulder injuries and rotator cuff injuries.
This is EXACTLY what I'm going through, but my Dr. insists it's a nerve problem and carpal tunnel. I've had a neck MRI, and an EMG but he cancelled a shoulder MRI. I want my shoulder fixed!!!!!
If some of these tests hurt but you can still do them does that mean you might have a tear? I'd say it hurts about 5 out of 10 on a pain scale. I understand that you can't diagnose online but it would be nice to hear your opinion. Thanks!
Or just sleeping on it too hard. If you can do regular things I doubt it’s anything major jus try switching up how u sleep like less pressure on the shoulder that hurts
WOW! You guys are great. This video is JUST what I needed to watch. I'm a 64 yo male and have always had rather weak shoulders. I strained my right shoulder and immediately felt a sharp pain. Your short < 7 min presentation helped me figure out that I have a supraspinitus (?) mild impingement and it does NOT drop. Yeah! This means it WILL heal over time WITHOUT any surgery. Fantastic! Thank you so much. I will be sure to watch all the rest of your videos to learn how to heal and/or prevent further injuries.
Thanks, guys. I’ve had surgery for torn rotator cuff twice on one shoulder and once on the other, the last one which included a torn and retracted biceps tendon. Among the most horrible surgeries I’ve ever had.
Much appreciated gentlemen. Helped me out tonight I was worried I tore my rotator cuff but I passed all the tests. I wonder what is causing me so much pain in my shoulder though!
I tried the test and I was able to control my arm coming all the way down and also be able to lift my hand off of my back. However now my shoulder is very very painful it hurts after doing that does that mean I might just have a muscle tear? Do you recommend someone going to the hospital about this work and we get it done with therapy?
I have been having some pain in my right Shoulder joint or muscle, pretty hard to tell exactly where it hurt. I began to feel it a year after I stopped doing sports, thankfully I can do all those test and my arm does not drop but instead I do get what I can only describe as a sudden pinching pain during the test. thankfully after watching your video it safe to say its no a Rotator cuff tear and I've probably trapped a nerve or something... Thanks guys
I just passed all the tests. Range of motion is hindered in a few directions. I can do about 8 to 10 unassisted pull ups without any pain, until I wake up the next morning. After watching many of your videos I have a greater idea of what I can do to attempt fixing my shoulders. Do you recommend so form of ROM measurement? What can I use or do you recommend for tracking? Thanks for all the great stuff.
If ur in Pittsburgh and need therapy go to suburban health in Oakmont. He rocks. Like unz, he is great. ☺ helped w my back and w helping heels of feet. Oh, and lock jaw. It was gone in a week thanks to Jonathan. Thanks for ur video.. Recently have had a shoulder problem. These will help.
Great video helping many around the world for sure. Can you do a video on how the back adjusts for occupational needs and the hows, whats and whys to readjust the back, say when one retires. For women who wore high heeled shoes for decades; do ligaments or tendons shrink to adjust? Are there exercises one who wore heels can do to avoid feet and back problems immediately or even years after discontinuing heels? What do you think are the odds there are people in rest homes across the US, or the world for that matter believing they are permanently unable to walk who can be freed up from immobility (and the associated costs and restrictions) because of unnecessary and untreated back pain? Again, I really appreciate your videos. The great posture of both of you is your greatest "selling" point.
I have minimal pain with the 3, but with the lift off test, the pain is a 10. I can place it on my back and maybe lift 2 inches. But it truly hurts. Been 3 weeks so far. I hope it is just something that fixes itself.
nice video....I did the behind the back lift off and it felt great...so now I am doing 20 reps x 3 and it seems to be hitting the spot that feels weak in the arm and shoulder....
Mine has been confirmed. Its suprapinatus tear. So bad, can't sleep. Told up to 6 months just to see orthopaedic surgeon for next steps. Full tear. Ouch!!!
Hi Guys, Great video. I did the tests and don’t seem to have a problem, but I still suspect some rotator cuff damage. I'm very active and strength train 3x a week. I have a HUGE knot in my upper right trap, (which doesn’t seem to go away no matter how much I wall-roll a lacrosse ball on it). I have pain in the tip of the shoulder on the right side too, and what I feel like is (muscular) pain around, under and on top of my shoulder blade (right side only). I'm completely pain free and without symptoms on my left side. I have read that sometimes, when a muscle or joint is damaged, other muscles knot up in order to protect/ overcompensate the affected areas. I've had this problem for months, and have been doing all sorts of corrective band exercises - to no avail :( My biggest problem is the knot in my trap... It's affecting my performance on the deadlift and other exercises and just generally doesn’t feel good. Any advice guys? Will really be appreciated!
Most helpful vid Ive seen in terms of aiding the "self-diagnoser." The third test - the pull-away - is the only one that affects me. Actually getting into that position hurts, yet I can easily move the hand away from the back. Only time I can activate pain is when I do pull-ups and it causes pain in upper triceps and down side of deltoid. Went to orthopedic. Took xrays (no issue). Says I strained one of the rotator cuff muscles. Since I indicated I felt better after a week (though still have pain and limited range of motion), that my only treatment right now is to give it some time. Why does the tricep muscle hurt if it's a rotator cuff injury?
Thanks guys for making and posting the video. You are making and creating love: help for those of us in need; I am truly grateful. I now know that my cuff (I always thought it was "cup") isn't torn. Just need to get to a PT. :)
I can't even Lift my arm. I cannot put my arm behind me at all. The pain is really wearing me down. I can't do anything besides the most basic stuff that I can accomplish with my right arm. It's horrible.
when i was in school i used to pop my shoulder in and out just for fun. i liked the noise and the fact that i was the only one who was able to do it. stopped within a month cant do it now. im 23 now. when i was 22 i dislocated my shoulder when i extended my arm swimming freestyle. the moment my arm entered the water and applied downward force (somewhat twisted, i guess external rotation from the hours of self research on youtube) it dislocated and poped back in position, just like the time when i was a kid. only difference. i had a different posture this time and i had some decent amount of pain for 4-6 days. from what i know i have pain when im doing the hawkings test... also the same position i used to pop my shoulders in and out when i was a kid. (i was 9 years old). got an mri. doc told me to operate. i said no .went to physio. didnt work out. i have dislocated it a few times . and each and everytime when i did the external rotation test, it used to hurt. i need help. i want to join the army. i can bench 35 kgs. i can do a lot of pull ups. and i have built up good strength on all the three deltoid muscles.its just that one awkward position where its a disaster. desperate for any help from both of you incredible doctors. love from india.
Mihir Rao you know what’s funny, is that I have this exact same issue, I was doing a conditioning test and I dislocated my shoulder and it popped back in, I can do that same thing I used to do it all the time and I tried building arm and shoulder strength and doing rotator cuff workouts my doctor provided me. It’s a struggle. It’s been 2 years since your comment was posted. Do you have any tips and has anything changed?
@@Chpats_ well i couldnt get into the army. i went through a physio who taught me some ergonomic exercises which helped me tremendously. i also went to the gym for 8 months straight and bulked up my shoulders. i did not do a single bicep curl in those 8 months since the ergo-physio told me to mass up closer to the joint to keep the center of gravity at the joint. i also invested some time in yoga and functional movements... ALL of these have helped me in my muscle memory. so much so that even before attempting a risky movement with my arms extended i know if its a safe move or not. if not, i take a step back and change my approach to lifting the object or whatever the activity is. or i just dont do it at ALL. its been 2 years, and i have popped it once. i feel super confident honestly. muscle memory FTW
PS I have never been able to sleep on my back, even from a young age. I'm not able to comfortable sleep on my stomach as I'm a bit overweight, but even so, trying to sleep on my stomach with my arms parallel to my body causes my Right shoulder to badly hurt. I'm trying some very gentle mobility exercises that I've found for treating a frozen shoulder online, but finding it very difficult to get mobility in my Right side...
Was trying to decide if i needed to go to doctor. Fell doen steps at home and for the second time in less than 6 years my left shoulder popped out of socket. It popped back in but hurts terrible. Hate to go to doctor but my mother said perhaps torn rotator so i youtubed tests before going to doctor. Cant do the third test and lift my left arm off my back. Can barely get it around to my back moreless lift it off. (Sigh) guess its a trip to doctor tomorrow. Thanks for this video, guys!
I've seen two Consultant Surgeons (VERY expensive) and the first test they asked me to hold my arms straight outwards, at no angle and thumbs pointing towards themselves. They never did the 'Drop Arm Test' or even the 'Lift Off Test'. I've tried the 'Lift Off Test' myself and I can't lift my hand off my back at all. I think I need to get a plane ticket to sort this out.
Thanks, I've already had two shoulder stabilisation ops done with three months of PT after both of them and none of them did these tests so, think I'll get on a plane and sort this out myself ;) Two rips in the cartilage & after the first operation to fix those it blew apart again along with the cut through my chest/shoulder they made to fix that. The second operation fixed one torn cartilage and the bust open muscle in my chest/shoulder that they cut through the first time after it blew apart plus they 'shaved a bone' to make the upper arm fit deeper into the arm socket. And now after being in a car crash none of them will go near it. It's ok, I get my dental work done with a plane ticket and I'll be doing the same with this now ;) I think myself though that I'll just have to work on the muscles there and just make the area stronger, another operation on it may not be good at all.
No not yet, it's still a bit sore 16 months after the crash (constantly sore for around 8 months), the surgeon said it's 'deep tissue damage'. The arm locks up sometimes, small dislocations as well. I think I'll wait for the pain to get less before putting it under pressure. (edit) the surgeon said injections for the pain and physio.
Yes, I'll get a plane ticket and have it looked at just to be safe but I don't think another operation will do any good. When the pain fades a bit more I'll build up the muscles there myself. Loads of great videos here for that Physio on UTube and thanks for sharing this one you guys, very good information here.
I've been having shoulder pain for the past month from bench pressing. I can clearly move my right arm in any direction. It just hurts my right shoulder when doing so.
Had a bad wreck yrs ago, had six months of therapy for my shoulder. Was told it was rotator cuff injury, but they stopped therapy because it didn't work. I'm in pain at this moment, can't sleep, barely lift my arm, it's in my neck also.... I don't want to have surgery 😳
The problem is...my shoulder discomfort is in my non-dominant arm (left), so I can't actively tell, without doing some arm stretches and such, what causes pain in my shoulder. -_- If it gets worst, I shall consult my mom on finding a doctor to cure my ailment. In the meantime, I'll just continue with my life.
Well I failed two of those tests. Saw the Doctor. Going for ultrasound tomorrow. I am praying that only physio will be required and no surgery. Both my rotator cuffs are gone.
Well, the Sports Doctor has said I need both shoulders repaired. Going to see a surgeon soon. The physio is helping greatly. Much less pain now and able to do daily activities with less trouble. Still not much strength though. Thanks for asking.
Better with Physio. Saw the Surgeon. Could take a year to get repaired! On a waiting list now for surgery. I am about 50% on mobility and strength now...Doctor said he could bring that to 75% with surgery but much work on my part. Not sure if surgery is even worth it, so I will watch and see if my mobility and strength goes down in the next few months.
I utterly failed the lift off test on the right side. Hmm. And I'm very hypermobile (I have Ehlers Danlos, hypermobile and classical types both) and found that very surprising. My AC joint pops out a lot and my humerus rotates forward causing me a lot of pain until I get them put back in. But it's almost always the left that is horrible, so the right side failing really surprised me!
How about the opposite of test 2? I have a shoulder injury that I sustained over a month ago. I just followed along these tests, and my pain is severely amplified when I try to swing my arm outward against an inward force. So, basically, arms to the side, elbow bent 90 degrees, hand in a fist, close together in front of me. Then rotate arms, pulling fists apart. If there's the slightest force pushing inward, I have to stop the motion because of the pain. It's been almost 5 weeks now and there's been little improvement, and I'm starting to get a little concerned.
outstanding presentation, i'm trying to work out what my pain is after a motorcycle injury. Thanks a million it will certainly help in the diagnosis, I'll mention this stuff to my GP when I go back for the results on my X-rays
***** Thanks, I tried your tests my arm behind my back was painful but I could do it, I had only been able to lift my arm originally out straight in front about 5- 10 deg and to the side maybe 15 deg. The next day was the same the third day I can now move my arm out real slow and with pain to about 30-35deg to the side and about the same at the front. I can get my arm up higher only if I bend my elbow right in maybe cause of less weight out front and just manage scratch the back of my head. I have the results of the X-ray here Right Shoulder- An undisplaced avulsion Fracture of the greater tuberosity of the humerus is present. The humeral head remains within glenoid. Im gathering without an MRI that all my tendons and ligaments may have a slight tare at worst as I have the movements improving and greatly each day maybe due to swelling going down. I have a greenish ting bruise on my bicep and some slight muscular pain in my rear shoulder blade from time to time but it seems not to bad. I think a lot of internal bruising around the ribs, None fractured or broken. I thought this may help with any future similar injuries you investigate. Cause was coming off and over a motorcycle landing on my side shoulder down head tilted up to the side landed in mallee bush off the road, no protective jacket just a open face helmet and jeans shoes and a Tshirt. I might do a video of my movement and post it. I used the hatch back door with air rams of my wagon to aid my arm going up and down just to help keep movement. I keep my other arm there only as a safety if it hurt to much. This helped get my arm over my shoulder. Now I have the results im just going to rest it. The unknown was stressing me a lot and I do not think i'll ride the bike that angry again. I wasn't supposed to come out the other end of it but I did. I'm cool with that now but I wasn't to cool at the time. No one ells on the road, No one ells involved. Cheers for your support, Yes I feel stupid.
You don't have to have pain or loss of range of movement, to have a tear. Ive had mine for a month but not much pain and no loss of movement, initially. A few weeks later i can barely pick anything up or move my arm without having to suffer for it later. Most doctors will just say you have an injury like a strain, if your able to move fine. However, this doesn't mean you don't have an issue or a small tear that's about to get worse
I was waiting for someone to mention this. You don’t have to have intense pain or loss of motion to have a tear. ER diagnosed me with a sprained shoulder. I can move it. But it has loud pops if I move a certain way. And it’s more painful at night. So I’m seeing an orthopedic on Friday hoping to get some solid answers.
If only all Doctors would pay attention to this. It took me 3 years for first surgery of shoulder Dr promised to look at cuff but didnt. Year later talked another Dr into fixing imp again and this time he promised to check for tear. Sure enough torn rotator cuff. Took over 4 years of pain to have someone fix. Now severe pain still with severe tendinopathy and severe bursitis and that old tear feeling is back again. No Dr will listen again. Over a year in extreme pain again. I go days on no sleep from it. Why do Dr never listen to patients only read MRIs. We know are bodies. I failed almost all these test. Esp the hand behind back. Doesn't move a inch.
I popped my right arm out of socket 15 yrs ago and its still feels painful with all those tests u show but I have had MRI and x-rays and they can't find anything....now it has gone not only to shoulder but to my upper back right shoulder area...painful
5:54 is the summary of the tests.
lol. I wish every video had this. just get to the point.
I sleep on my right arm...So that extra pillow advice helped a lot. Thanx
As always, very helpful and informative. As someone with Ehlers Danlos syndrome, I find myself coming to this channel a lot for the clearest explanation of my various injuries!
Interesting, I thought for sure I had a rotor cuff tear but I easily did those tests. Now I feel a little better it might be something different thanks for the video very helpful.
Hi sir I had rotor cuff tear almost 1 year complete but not recovery still now and surgery 3 months back but now not recovery 😢 please help
Same. Tough to know what it really is. Some other videos I'm clear positive- especially lifting the arm in above the shoulder sideways.
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You have to exercise your shoulder in order for strength to be back to normal
Bob! Brad! Thank you so much for this channel , you have helped me recover a few different injuries. I recommend you all the time. Bless you both and your team!
I had a mildly painful shoulder for a week or two. Got up one morning and tugged on my quilt with my right arm. I heard a loud pop with sudden intense pain. I fail all 3 of those tests. I see my orthopedic surgeon tomorrow. He did rotator cuff surgery on my left shoulder just this past April 2017. I have a feeling I have a tear and am probably looking at surgery again. The pain this time is much worse than with my left shoulder, plus I'm right handed, so a painful right shoulder is making life interesting, from pulling up pants and a bra to driving. You guys are wonderful! I know I'm looking at physical therapy after surgery.
I experienced a loud pop with minimal pain while pushing off the ground about a week ago. I have minimal pain/pressure that seems to move from the front, side, and back of the shoulder. My daily activities are not impacted, but I have tried to reduce aggravating the joint and muscles. I’ve dine all the test without weakness and no/minimal pain/pressure. The two test that I felt minimal pain/pressure is the lift-off test and teres minor test. Thanks to you I’m not panicking while waiting for my appt that’s several weeks away.
Was out metal detecting; went to push up with my right arm while getting off the ground ( hey, it was a deep target I was digging)...snap! crackle! pop! Couldn't swing my detector side-to-side and had trouble putting my gear in the bed of my truck. When I got home I could hardly reach across to the passenger side sun visor to push the garage door opener. Seeing my Doc on Monday. Great video, fellas, very informative and helpful.
I watched you guys last week for sciatica and now this week for my rotator cuff.....I may be falling apart. 🙈
Lmao, im in the same situation
L00L. same sheit., here.
I'm an internist and these guys are very good.
*If you want to go the do-it-yourself route, there's a pretty comprehensive rotator cuff rehab program in **_Treat Your Own Rotator Cuff_** at Amazon*
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You guys are hilarious. Cheers me up a bit about being a sedentary 30-year-old who somehow managed to fuck up his rotator cuff by partaking in absolutely no athletic activity to speak of.
I fucked mine for playing a climbing game in VR
@@Oldundead9491 lmao, I fucked mines up by hill bombing 40 mph on a skateboard and falling straight on the back of my shoulder on a curb. Did your stop hurting???? Please answer cuz I’m worried
@@lovesick5533 mine stopped hurting after about 2 weeks.
@@Oldundead9491 oh Alr thanks man
Weight lifting & one too many golf swings did me in!
My arm doesn’t necessarily give way but I do feel decent pain and discomfort in that area when doing these tests
Hey,me too...can u pls give me update on ur injury.
@@aadithyananoopbhaskar9119 I can’t remember much but it just ended up going away on its own after about a week or so.
@@elchino6181 so you were able to get back to normal activities after a week?
@@hellohellocanyouhearme6712 Yeah pretty much
@@aadithyananoopbhaskar9119 are you well now ?
hopefully someone can answer this, i've been advised that the only way to re-attach is by way of surgery. the surgeon i'm seeing does this operation the old fashion way... my question is, is it a quicker, better job, and shorter recovery to have it done by arthroscopy instead?
Excellent video, thanks so much. Had shoulder pain from lifting weights, and layed off for two weeks. No pain now and did your tests without pain. Peace of mind, thanks.
The Rotator Cuff tear isn’t so bad, but the recovery from surgery is brutal. I tore mine doing Muay Thai & another time doing MMA, then I went to get it checked. I had the surgery when I was 25. But I do recommend getting it fixed ASAP & by god do the rehab! Especially home work outs!
Tried the tests. Panicked when I couldn't do them. Tried again more slowly and deliberately it made my shoulder pop loudly. Suddenly nothing hurts and I can pass all the tests.
I don't know what it was but this guy is going to integrate a lot of light weight low impact shoulder exercises to my regimen!
Thanks for the tips!
Prolly was jus tight muscles from lack of movement with them or exercise
Maybe a tendon was dislocated.. out of position and it slid back to the correct position.
This injury is a right sh!!.I've had it for 35 year's, an old weight lifting injury. I was booked in for surgery 4 years ago but being self employed had to cancel. They told me I couldn't work for 3 months. I'd lose my house and starve to death. Damn this pain!
i pass all these test now,i damn near pulled my arm off myself(accident) back in HS,my left arm was throbbing and i could feel every heart beat going into my arm while it went numb,never went to doctor,main pain disappered but every once in a while it would come back and i couldn't lift my arm above my shoulder without pain but now my arm is all good no surgerory.i told this experience to a neighbor who has experience in physical therapy,he asked me to move my arm this way and every which way asking if i felt a click.i finally found a click which was a"throwing a football" motion and he told me that yes i messed up my rotator cuff
when u said if u can lift ur arm u may have a tear
i was like SHIT
I'm sorry I was having pain and watching videos about rotator cuff problems, but I am so glad I saw this! You guys are hilarious! Thanks for your videos!!!
This was exactly what I was looking for, thanks guys !!
1 - no pain
2 - some pain
3 - no pain
4 - no pain.
My main problem is lifting my hand over 45 degrees. It was worse during the first day after the injury though. Ideas?
Hi when did this happen and how long did it take for you to heal
@@khulenduku1215 it happened right before Christmas, it took me around a month to heal to the point I'd not feel pain when lifting my hand. And maybe another for it to feel stronger. If you're having the same of similar injury, I recommend to do the exercises from this video and channel, it helped a lot, and stay off gym or any other activity that makes your shoulder hurt until you feel its strong enough. I did the mistake and that would set me back a lot.
Thanks guys, it made sense. I had an operation 3 months ago for a rotator cuff tear at last. I went to numerous doctors before a doctor actually sent me to a specialist to check it out and I was operated within 3 days. Either Australian doctors are stupid in this field or it is difficult to assess shoulder problems. so many years pain for nothing. I wish this had been explained to me before, instead of being told to put up with the pain. I am glad I finally found a doctor to listen to me, and now I have a good physio who is great with aftercare.
at least it didn't cost you $4000 just to find out if you have a tear like in the USA, let alone the cost of the actual surgery
This was very helpful to me. I have had an issue the past month or two with my LEFT shoulder. I believe it to be a rotator cuff problem. hopefully it's not severe. May have to have it imaged to make sure. In a week I will talk to my primary doctor about it. Thanks for this video!
***** Thanks, me too!
Blurry videos are my favorite. YEAH!!!!!
This is a great explanation for students. I wish I found it a year ago while taking my ortho class.
Thanks for your videos. They were very helpful for me.
I had shoulder surgery last December and now reaching my break even
point where I'm better off now than before my surgery. Except for the
pain and sleeping. I'm passing on a tip to reduce pain without meds.
Taping. My physical therapist applied some tape from my shoulder to my
mid back. Worked wonders. I sleep much better with the tape and my
chronic pain is much less.
Hey guys, I am watching your video in Australia. I have just had a hip replacement and watched your hip videos initially. Now it looks like I may have torn my rotated cuff and am looking at this video... Your videos are fantastic. Thanks for posting them
You guys are great! Thanks.
I personally love your light-hardheartedness. It makes it easier to remember what you have shown/taught. There are enough of the boring, monotonic anatomy teachers on the net for those that want pure fact! Please keep them coming.
I've passed all of the tests and don't have a complete tear, for sure. My doctor recommended PT; do you think it's NECESSARY to have an MRI?
I have had PT and am going in for an MRI very soon. I failed the test at the orthopedics.
Get yourself a sling and rotate wearing it. Don't keep it on all day or it will lock your elbow up. Go see ortho asap.
84 years old and had right arm tear last year. Now 1and a half years later did the left arm. Just had MTI to be sure. Operation coming up soon. I feel I'm pretty good at what to. So not looking forward to it. 6 weeks and I'll be good as new. As new as I can e at 84.
Failed the 1st one but I aced the rest. Looks like it's not a tear. 👍👍
I do boxing. I know I overtrained my shoulders by doing speed bag, then I was doing hard right hooks and I felt a little pain and after an hour it got worse. Now I pass all these tests, but mine might be a nerve issue because I feel the pain from shoulder to the palm
Your guys are classic. You killed it on this one Brad. Bring it in Nancy. You guys are such a comedy duo you don't even know it. Also, thanks for the tips!
This video narrowed it down for me I been dealing with shoulder pain for over a month I have those 3 signs of a rotator cuff tear I thought at first it was a nerve problem because I had neck pain in the beginning now I know I most definitely know I have a tear thanks so much for this video it really helped me.
***** Thank you.
Old Still Gold
I was told rotator cuff tears don't heal on their own. I fell down the stairs onto a concrete floor on to my left side. I had an open wound fracture (ulnar side). They did surgery & put a steel plate in & cleaned it out. Couldn't have MRI at hospital. I have a pacemaker that's safe for MRIs but it has to be a closed MRI & only certain hospitals are trained in the proper protocols for patient w/ implanted devices. I also have to have a technician from the device company come out & switch my pacemaker into a different mode. So anyway I had an MRI later & it didn't show a tear but the Dr said it looks stretched or overextended. He said there could be a microscopic tear but he can't see anything other then it being stretched out. I got a steroid injection but haven't got much relief. He said PT won't heal it but it's still good to get stronger around the area. PT helped somewhat but the little sport where it really hurts never gets better. I want to see if platelet rich plasma therapy would help. I probably can't afford it though.
*Just do the exercises in **_Treat Your Own Rotator Cuff_** if you have a tear, they work!*
Dont forget Speeds Test to test biceps long head. It's not a rotator cuff mm but it aids in stabilizing the humeral head and is often implicated in shoulder injuries and rotator cuff injuries.
This is EXACTLY what I'm going through, but my Dr. insists it's a nerve problem and carpal tunnel. I've had a neck MRI, and an EMG but he cancelled a shoulder MRI. I want my shoulder fixed!!!!!
Sir you have explained so nicely. Thanks
If some of these tests hurt but you can still do them does that mean you might have a tear? I'd say it hurts about 5 out of 10 on a pain scale.
I understand that you can't diagnose online but it would be nice to hear your opinion. Thanks!
Thank you guys these tests helped to determine my condition.
I pass all these tests, so the pain in my shoulder, upper back, and down my arm to wrist is probably not a rotor cuff tear, but nerve impingement.
Or just sleeping on it too hard. If you can do regular things I doubt it’s anything major jus try switching up how u sleep like less pressure on the shoulder that hurts
WOW! You guys are great. This video is JUST what I needed to watch. I'm a 64 yo male and have always had rather weak shoulders. I strained my right shoulder and immediately felt a sharp pain. Your short < 7 min presentation helped me figure out that I have a supraspinitus (?) mild impingement and it does NOT drop. Yeah! This means it WILL heal over time WITHOUT any surgery. Fantastic! Thank you so much. I will be sure to watch all the rest of your videos to learn how to heal and/or prevent further injuries.
Thanks, guys. I’ve had surgery for torn rotator cuff twice on one shoulder and once on the other, the last one which included a torn and retracted biceps tendon. Among the most horrible surgeries I’ve ever had.
Much appreciated gentlemen. Helped me out tonight I was worried I tore my rotator cuff but I passed all the tests. I wonder what is causing me so much pain in my shoulder though!
Did you find out? I'm in the same boat.
Thanks doing a test by myself left me on the floor. I dislocated my shoulder from this self test. Thanks bud
I tried the test and I was able to control my arm coming all the way down and also be able to lift my hand off of my back. However now my shoulder is very very painful it hurts after doing that does that mean I might just have a muscle tear? Do you recommend someone going to the hospital about this work and we get it done with therapy?
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I have been having some pain in my right Shoulder joint or muscle, pretty hard to tell exactly where it hurt. I began to feel it a year after I stopped doing sports, thankfully I can do all those test and my arm does not drop but instead I do get what I can only describe as a sudden pinching pain during the test. thankfully after watching your video it safe to say its no a Rotator cuff tear and I've probably trapped a nerve or something... Thanks guys
I just passed all the tests. Range of motion is hindered in a few directions. I can do about 8 to 10 unassisted pull ups without any pain, until I wake up the next morning. After watching many of your videos I have a greater idea of what I can do to attempt fixing my shoulders. Do you recommend so form of ROM measurement? What can I use or do you recommend for tracking?
Thanks for all the great stuff.
If ur in Pittsburgh and need therapy go to suburban health in Oakmont. He rocks. Like unz, he is great. ☺ helped w my back and w helping heels of feet. Oh, and lock jaw. It was gone in a week thanks to Jonathan. Thanks for ur video.. Recently have had a shoulder problem. These will help.
Great video helping many around the world for sure.
Can you do a video on how the back adjusts for occupational needs and the hows, whats and whys to readjust the back, say when one retires.
For women who wore high heeled shoes for decades; do ligaments or tendons shrink to adjust? Are there exercises one who wore heels can do to avoid feet and back problems immediately or even years after discontinuing heels?
What do you think are the odds there are people in rest homes across the US, or the world for that matter believing they are permanently unable to walk who can be freed up from immobility (and the associated costs and restrictions) because of unnecessary and untreated back pain?
Again, I really appreciate your videos. The great posture of both of you is your greatest "selling" point.
Thanks for the tests. I am starting to train my chest doing push ups again, and I will do these tests to ensure that I am not tearing my rotator cuff.
Informative and entertaining...thanks fella's!!
thank you guys i hope i can heal myself with this videyow
Dear Dr I have shoulder cuff tear injury last one month. What is the best exercise and treatment for this.
I have minimal pain with the 3, but with the lift off test, the pain is a 10. I can place it on my back and maybe lift 2 inches. But it truly hurts. Been 3 weeks so far. I hope it is just something that fixes itself.
My arm fell off after the 2nd test. What do I do next?
Lol
I feel your pain 🎉
Like the video. My sweet tater has been having bad ache instead of pain.
nice video....I did the behind the back lift off and it felt great...so now I am doing 20 reps x 3 and it seems to be hitting the spot that feels weak in the arm and shoulder....
Time to see the doc......
Just what I needed to know, so tired of the pain
Heck, I can't get my right arm even close to my back, much less the middle of it.
Thanks guys - keep up the good work
Same tests my Dr did for Lambrum tears. arm dropped just like in video.
note to self and everybody. DO NOT DO ELEVATED DIPS.
Mine has been confirmed. Its suprapinatus tear. So bad, can't sleep. Told up to 6 months just to see orthopaedic surgeon for next steps. Full tear. Ouch!!!
Faruk M I have a full year too from a dislocation. How long did recovery take?
Dunya johnson I’ve done years of PT, but you’re not he first person to recommend stem cell injections! Thanks bro.
Dunya johnson just a shame that shit costs like 50 bags
Hi Guys,
Great video. I did the tests and don’t seem to have a problem, but I still suspect some rotator cuff damage. I'm very active and strength train 3x a week. I have a HUGE knot in my upper right trap, (which doesn’t seem to go away no matter how much I wall-roll a lacrosse ball on it). I have pain in the tip of the shoulder on the right side too, and what I feel like is (muscular) pain around, under and on top of my shoulder blade (right side only). I'm completely pain free and without symptoms on my left side. I have read that sometimes, when a muscle or joint is damaged, other muscles knot up in order to protect/ overcompensate the affected areas. I've had this problem for months, and have been doing all sorts of corrective band exercises - to no avail :( My biggest problem is the knot in my trap... It's affecting my performance on the deadlift and other exercises and just generally doesn’t feel good. Any advice guys? Will really be appreciated!
Most helpful vid Ive seen in terms of aiding the "self-diagnoser." The third test - the pull-away - is the only one that affects me. Actually getting into that position hurts, yet I can easily move the hand away from the back. Only time I can activate pain is when I do pull-ups and it causes pain in upper triceps and down side of deltoid. Went to orthopedic. Took xrays (no issue). Says I strained one of the rotator cuff muscles. Since I indicated I felt better after a week (though still have pain and limited range of motion), that my only treatment right now is to give it some time. Why does the tricep muscle hurt if it's a rotator cuff injury?
Thanks guys for making and posting the video. You are making and creating love: help for those of us in need; I am truly grateful. I now know that my cuff (I always thought it was "cup") isn't torn. Just need to get to a PT. :)
You are welcome:)
I can't even Lift my arm. I cannot put my arm behind me at all. The pain is really wearing me down. I can't do anything besides the most basic stuff that I can accomplish with my right arm. It's horrible.
I am having muscle tear
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You guys probably need sugery.
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@SuperGamer164YT u most likely need surgery. Did u have an injury before this or something? Doctors shoulda let u know during an X-ray or sum
Do I need an MRI to determine if I need surgery or physical therapy?
Thank you
You guys are awesome.
when i was in school i used to pop my shoulder in and out just for fun. i liked the noise and the fact that i was the only one who was able to do it. stopped within a month cant do it now. im 23 now. when i was 22 i dislocated my shoulder when i extended my arm swimming freestyle. the moment my arm entered the water and applied downward force (somewhat twisted, i guess external rotation from the hours of self research on youtube) it dislocated and poped back in position, just like the time when i was a kid. only difference. i had a different posture this time and i had some decent amount of pain for 4-6 days. from what i know i have pain when im doing the hawkings test... also the same position i used to pop my shoulders in and out when i was a kid. (i was 9 years old). got an mri. doc told me to operate. i said no .went to physio. didnt work out. i have dislocated it a few times . and each and everytime when i did the external rotation test, it used to hurt. i need help. i want to join the army. i can bench 35 kgs. i can do a lot of pull ups. and i have built up good strength on all the three deltoid muscles.its just that one awkward position where its a disaster. desperate for any help from both of you incredible doctors.
love from india.
Mihir Rao you know what’s funny, is that I have this exact same issue, I was doing a conditioning test and I dislocated my shoulder and it popped back in, I can do that same thing I used to do it all the time and I tried building arm and shoulder strength and doing rotator cuff workouts my doctor provided me. It’s a struggle. It’s been 2 years since your comment was posted. Do you have any tips and has anything changed?
@@Chpats_ well i couldnt get into the army. i went through a physio who taught me some ergonomic exercises which helped me tremendously. i also went to the gym for 8 months straight and bulked up my shoulders. i did not do a single bicep curl in those 8 months since the ergo-physio told me to mass up closer to the joint to keep the center of gravity at the joint. i also invested some time in yoga and functional movements... ALL of these have helped me in my muscle memory. so much so that even before attempting a risky movement with my arms extended i know if its a safe move or not. if not, i take a step back and change my approach to lifting the object or whatever the activity is. or i just dont do it at ALL. its been 2 years, and i have popped it once. i feel super confident honestly. muscle memory FTW
They’re just so entertaining
I really have appreciated all you guys' videos, but I wouldn't attemp ANY of these moves bc it just hurts so bad and I'm kinda babying this pain
My shoulder aches. And the only test that I fail is when I internally rotate my arm. ( Thumb down) and you push down on the arm my shoulder hurts
Thanks for the great information.
PS I have never been able to sleep on my back, even from a young age. I'm not able to comfortable sleep on my stomach as I'm a bit overweight, but even so, trying to sleep on my stomach with my arms parallel to my body causes my Right shoulder to badly hurt. I'm trying some very gentle mobility exercises that I've found for treating a frozen shoulder online, but finding it very difficult to get mobility in my Right side...
yeah, but doesn't really help imho - I get a terrible throbbing pain when I use a cold pack...
Was trying to decide if i needed to go to doctor. Fell doen steps at home and for the second time in less than 6 years my left shoulder popped out of socket. It popped back in but hurts terrible. Hate to go to doctor but my mother said perhaps torn rotator so i youtubed tests before going to doctor. Cant do the third test and lift my left arm off my back. Can barely get it around to my back moreless lift it off. (Sigh) guess its a trip to doctor tomorrow. Thanks for this video, guys!
I've seen two Consultant Surgeons (VERY expensive) and the first test they asked me to hold my arms straight outwards, at no angle and thumbs pointing towards themselves. They never did the 'Drop Arm Test' or even the 'Lift Off Test'. I've tried the 'Lift Off Test' myself and I can't lift my hand off my back at all. I think I need to get a plane ticket to sort this out.
Thanks, I've already had two shoulder stabilisation ops done with three months of PT after both of them and none of them did these tests so, think I'll get on a plane and sort this out myself ;) Two rips in the cartilage & after the first operation to fix those it blew apart again along with the cut through my chest/shoulder they made to fix that. The second operation fixed one torn cartilage and the bust open muscle in my chest/shoulder that they cut through the first time after it blew apart plus they 'shaved a bone' to make the upper arm fit deeper into the arm socket. And now after being in a car crash none of them will go near it. It's ok, I get my dental work done with a plane ticket and I'll be doing the same with this now ;) I think myself though that I'll just have to work on the muscles there and just make the area stronger, another operation on it may not be good at all.
No not yet, it's still a bit sore 16 months after the crash (constantly sore for around 8 months), the surgeon said it's 'deep tissue damage'. The arm locks up sometimes, small dislocations as well. I think I'll wait for the pain to get less before putting it under pressure. (edit) the surgeon said injections for the pain and physio.
Yes, I'll get a plane ticket and have it looked at just to be safe but I don't think another operation will do any good. When the pain fades a bit more I'll build up the muscles there myself. Loads of great videos here for that Physio on UTube and thanks for sharing this one you guys, very good information here.
Is a sudden, loud, painful explosive pop a guaranteed tear of an RC tendon or labrum?
So, do xrays show if it's completely torn? Or CT Scan? Or MRI? Thank you.
I've been having shoulder pain for the past month from bench pressing. I can clearly move my right arm in any direction. It just hurts my right shoulder when doing so.
Same in some movement what was it
same for me. it could be a strain tho not a tear hopefully
Had a bad wreck yrs ago, had six months of therapy for my shoulder. Was told it was rotator cuff injury, but they stopped therapy because it didn't work. I'm in pain at this moment, can't sleep, barely lift my arm, it's in my neck also.... I don't want to have surgery 😳
The problem is...my shoulder discomfort is in my non-dominant arm (left), so I can't actively tell, without doing some arm stretches and such, what causes pain in my shoulder. -_- If it gets worst, I shall consult my mom on finding a doctor to cure my ailment. In the meantime, I'll just continue with my life.
***** Thanks, I will.
Well I failed two of those tests. Saw the Doctor. Going for ultrasound tomorrow. I am praying that only physio will be required and no surgery. Both my rotator cuffs are gone.
Well, the Sports Doctor has said I need both shoulders repaired. Going to see a surgeon soon. The physio is helping greatly. Much less pain now and able to do daily activities with less trouble. Still not much strength though. Thanks for asking.
Better with Physio. Saw the Surgeon. Could take a year to get repaired! On a waiting list now for surgery. I am about 50% on mobility and strength now...Doctor said he could bring that to 75% with surgery but much work on my part. Not sure if surgery is even worth it, so I will watch and see if my mobility and strength goes down in the next few months.
Marc Gervais so did u do surgery?
try DMSO and Castor Oil put together.
Do research FIRST on both of these to make sure you can do it safely!
Is this recorded with a flip phone?
Just about ;) We have been on youtube for a long time! If you look at our newest videos our quality has improved a lot!
@@BobandBrad trueee
I utterly failed the lift off test on the right side. Hmm. And I'm very hypermobile (I have Ehlers Danlos, hypermobile and classical types both) and found that very surprising. My AC joint pops out a lot and my humerus rotates forward causing me a lot of pain until I get them put back in. But it's almost always the left that is horrible, so the right side failing really surprised me!
Thanks for the video. You guys need a decent mic.
Thank you guys for great info
Very good demonstration of the important shoulder tests for boards! Thank you for your video!
How about the opposite of test 2? I have a shoulder injury that I sustained over a month ago. I just followed along these tests, and my pain is severely amplified when I try to swing my arm outward against an inward force. So, basically, arms to the side, elbow bent 90 degrees, hand in a fist, close together in front of me. Then rotate arms, pulling fists apart. If there's the slightest force pushing inward, I have to stop the motion because of the pain. It's been almost 5 weeks now and there's been little improvement, and I'm starting to get a little concerned.
outstanding presentation, i'm trying to work out what my pain is after a motorcycle injury. Thanks a million it will certainly help in the diagnosis, I'll mention this stuff to my GP when I go back for the results on my X-rays
***** Thanks, I tried your tests my arm behind my back was painful but I could do it, I had only been able to lift my arm originally out straight in front about 5- 10 deg and to the side maybe 15 deg. The next day was the same the third day I can now move my arm out real slow and with pain to about 30-35deg to the side and about the same at the front. I can get my arm up higher only if I bend my elbow right in maybe cause of less weight out front and just manage scratch the back of my head.
I have the results of the X-ray here
Right Shoulder- An undisplaced avulsion Fracture of the greater tuberosity of the humerus is present. The humeral head remains within glenoid.
Im gathering without an MRI that all my tendons and ligaments may have a slight tare at worst as I have the movements improving and greatly each day maybe due to swelling going down. I have a greenish ting bruise on my bicep and some slight muscular pain in my rear shoulder blade from time to time but it seems not to bad. I think a lot of internal bruising around the ribs, None fractured or broken.
I thought this may help with any future similar injuries you investigate.
Cause was coming off and over a motorcycle landing on my side shoulder down head tilted up to the side landed in mallee bush off the road, no protective jacket just a open face helmet and jeans shoes and a Tshirt.
I might do a video of my movement and post it. I used the hatch back door with air rams of my wagon to aid my arm going up and down just to help keep movement. I keep my other arm there only as a safety if it hurt to much. This helped get my arm over my shoulder. Now I have the results im just going to rest it. The unknown was stressing me a lot and I do not think i'll ride the bike that angry again. I wasn't supposed to come out the other end of it but I did. I'm cool with that now but I wasn't to cool at the time. No one ells on the road, No one ells involved. Cheers for your support, Yes I feel stupid.
I have to have in a sling for about 10 days and rest it then I can get another X-ray if its fused back together then I can start exercising. cheers
You don't have to have pain or loss of range of movement, to have a tear. Ive had mine for a month but not much pain and no loss of movement, initially. A few weeks later i can barely pick anything up or move my arm without having to suffer for it later. Most doctors will just say you have an injury like a strain, if your able to move fine. However, this doesn't mean you don't have an issue or a small tear that's about to get worse
I was waiting for someone to mention this. You don’t have to have intense pain or loss of motion to have a tear. ER diagnosed me with a sprained shoulder. I can move it. But it has loud pops if I move a certain way. And it’s more painful at night. So I’m seeing an orthopedic on Friday hoping to get some solid answers.
If only all Doctors would pay attention to this. It took me 3 years for first surgery of shoulder Dr promised to look at cuff but didnt. Year later talked another Dr into fixing imp again and this time he promised to check for tear. Sure enough torn rotator cuff. Took over 4 years of pain to have someone fix. Now severe pain still with severe tendinopathy and severe bursitis and that old tear feeling is back again. No Dr will listen again. Over a year in extreme pain again. I go days on no sleep from it. Why do Dr never listen to patients only read MRIs. We know are bodies. I failed almost all these test. Esp the hand behind back. Doesn't move a inch.
I popped my right arm out of socket 15 yrs ago and its still feels painful with all those tests u show but I have had MRI and x-rays and they can't find anything....now it has gone not only to shoulder but to my upper back right shoulder area...painful