This was much fun, well thought out meets, good dispatching, cool to behind the scenes, where operations are handled, so much hard work! Thanks for sharing! 🏁
Thank you Bill, I was surprised and delighted with this cab ride. It shows a level of dedication from the model makers, with attention to detail not short cut, that is quite extraordinary. Bonus was the amazing detail and views from the cab. I don't think any other prototype could better the views, either steam or diesel. A visual treat as usual and I am grateful to you for the time and effort put into this production, which I am eating up on the other side of the world. My best wishes, Paul.
one of the best , if not the best cab rides i've been on. The commentary was helpful and the occasional view of the train was great. I would like less of the window frame in the view and a few more full length shoots of train, showing it going uphill and down hill. Thank you so much - definitely enjoable
The most beautiful example of model railroading I have ever seen. I'm a retired engineer from CSX so a little picky. There are a few things I would add in some of the signals and signage but, other than that, it's fabulous. I hope you are going to add some foliage to the bare spots around a couple of the staging yards but, like all of the model railroads I've seen, it's a work in progress. Great job.
Thanks John. The staging area is not open to the public and is not considered to be part of the prototype area being modeled. Therefore there is no incentive to add scenery to this part of the layout.
Hi Bill, ok, nuff said about that. I didn't know that is the case. I wouldn't decorate it either if no one is going to see it. If you're interested in my other thoughts, just let me know.
@@johnpollock291 Thanks again John. I am always interested in viewer comments. However, I should point out that my role and interests at the CMRM are only as videographer.
What would be involved in creating realistic tunnel interiors, lighting them and/or giving the locos bright enough lights to light the interiors of the tunnels? I haven't seen a model railroad layout that has done that has ever done that. I think it would be very cool to see that done. Also, I don't think that cab interior overlay looked very good and it distracted from the view too much.
Thank you for posting. Did your grandfather leave any photos from his time working for the Southern Pacific? If so, there are many groups on the internet that would love see them.
Perfection! At 18:06, it looks like there may have been a collision with a poor unfortunate animal from another train. I think there may be a carcass along the hillside as well. Played that part at half speed, and that red splotch peaked my interest. May be just my imagination.
@@billr991 Yep...that explains it. LOL. Wife and I were visiting Yellowstone and a few other places. Epic trip! Took the Durango and Silverton Train from Silverton to Durango, after going down into the mines. Fun trip. Would have been great to have seen your museum. Must plan on it the next trip out there. Really enjoy your videos.
My Grandfather was SP breakman in the 40s. Rode the rails through Donner to Tahoe from Sacramento. Met my grandmother in an RPO who went on to Post Master (Mistress) the P.O. @ Isleton, Ca. 95641 in 1950s. Grandad would tell tales of the Cab Forwards and the tunnels. Dad rode the SP to college @ Stockton, Davis & Sacramento and back.
Great stuff! Especially since there were other trains running. So often when cab rides are recorded, they are the only train on the line and everything else looks dead.
Hi Bill..Love Love love these cab view videos!! (Eastbound diesel too) But I had to watch the steam Westbound in segments as the steam chuffs were constant mono, after 10 mins of watching I had to change the video or go running down the street naked screaming!!! lol ,,,many thanks for these great videos of Greeley , I need to go there
@@kiwitrainguy It does sound like the drivers get out of sequence occasionally. Check about 20:30. (You ought to try to manually sinc four piston engines on a full-size DC-7 sometime.)
That was truly brilliant... the meets, the outside shots, the cab itself and the choice of 4275, the scenery and I especially dug the evidence of rock slides and the placing of rubble, etc.... Yeah, I really enjoyed the ride. A suggestion: If y'all could rig a "look back" shot when on a long curve... maybe with a mirror (?) or I know, a flatcar momentarily in front of the engine w/ the camera a bit to the side and pointing towards the rear, zoomed to take some of the engine out of the shot? that'd be cool. Thanx and... cheers
I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed your series of videos on the museum layout. The attention to detail and craftsmanship is just mind blowing. Any chance you'll make some videos of operations at Lakeview and Coos Bay? Those locations are sadly under-represented in your videos.
Yes we have done that. Watch ruclips.net/video/LHYVvEb3dEU/видео.html We've also used cameras mid train. For example: ruclips.net/video/RfL9_nTxfDE/видео.htmlm45s and ruclips.net/video/PDWqKXPCbB8/видео.htmlm51s The emphasis in this video was a cab ride. So I stayed with a more or less continuous shot of the track ahead.
I like how you darkened the inside of the cab as the train went through tunnels... very nice editing detail. Accurate height on the lens as well... excellently done! Do you have a shot of the camera rig?
Hi Ed, I shot that on my layout at home. I did a similar shot at the museum that I was going to use to introduce the cab forward concept to viewers who might not be familiar with it, but it was unusable. I didn't feel like delaying the video for yet another trip to the museum.
Our home is not quite that industrial looking. The cab interior is from a photo of an actual cab forward locomotive. Scott Inman who is a docent at the California State Railroad Museum took the picture of 4294's cab for me. The photo is actually of the fireman's side. It was flipped left to right and highly edited in Photoshop to make the windows transparent and to fix the lighting and color. The door on the engineer's side of 4294 is permanently blocked open by a new floor that was installed a while back. That ruins the engineer's side photos for cab ride purposes. I used Adobe Premiere Pro to superimpose the photo (with the transparent windows) on the footage shot at the Colorado Model Railroad Museum. The video camera was a Sony FDR-X3000 action cam mounted on a depressed center flatcar. There are some clips showing the camera set-up at the end of the Eastbound Big Cab Ride video. See ruclips.net/video/9cULL7QcErQ/видео.htmlm55s
Thanks Joe. The cab interior is from a photo of an actual cab forward. Scott Inman who is a docent at the California State Railroad Museum took the picture of 4294's cab for me. The photo is actually of the fireman's side. It was flipped left to right and highly edited in Photoshop to make the windows transparent and to fix the lighting and color. The door on the engineer's side of 4294 is permanently blocked open by a new floor that was installed a while back. That ruins the engineer's side photos for cab ride purposes. I used Adobe Premiere Pro to superimpose the photo (with the transparent windows) on the footage shot at the Colorado Model Railroad Museum. The video camera was a Sony FDR-X3000 action cam mounted on a depressed center flatcar. There are some clips showing the camera set-up at the end of the Eastbound Big Cab Ride video. See ruclips.net/video/9cULL7QcErQ/видео.htmlm55s
You're right, the camera was not inside the model locomotive - as it says in the video description. I'm not sure why you say the view is all wrong, though: Bill made the mask from a photo taken inside the cab of the last existing Cab Forward locomotive, at the California State RR Museum. Unless you're referring to the fact that the view out the window is too centered, whereas the Engineer's view would be offset more to the outside. Unfortunately, the camera was too big to properly offset it far enough to the side. Very few decent-quality cameras are small enough to allow such an offset.
Beautiful layout....plenty of hard work. That cab view kinda blocked the view and that irritating train noise....Killed the whole mood....But, thanks for trying to make it different.
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That was the coolest ride I ever had. Got it saved and probably take it 2 or 3 times a week now. You guys are great. Thanks for the ride!
This was much fun, well thought out meets, good dispatching, cool to behind the scenes, where operations are handled, so much hard work! Thanks for sharing! 🏁
It sounds like the drive roods on the ol cab forward need greas or new barring!
One of my favorite model train videos! Great job!
Looks absolutely realistic and fantastic!
Thank you Bill, I was surprised and delighted with this cab ride. It shows a level of dedication from the model makers, with attention to detail not short cut, that is quite extraordinary. Bonus was the amazing detail and views from the cab. I don't think any other prototype could better the views, either steam or diesel. A visual treat as usual and I am grateful to you for the time and effort put into this production, which I am eating up on the other side of the world. My best wishes, Paul.
Thank you Paul. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
The random motion of the cab mask adds just that extra touch. Thanks for clarifying how you did that (below).
Love these cab rides. Feels like the real deal 🚆 🚆😁😁😁
Fantastic, as usual, Bill. Awesome cab ride, awesome scenery, awesome layout!!
one of the best , if not the best cab rides i've been on. The commentary was helpful and the occasional view of the train was great. I would like less of the window frame in the view and a few more full length shoots of train, showing it going uphill and down hill. Thank you so much - definitely enjoable
Wow..what a ride..Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work.. Lance
I really enjoy these cab ride views! Thank you so much for posting them.
Another great cab ride, thanks once again for sharing. I’m now off to re-watch the eastbound run!
Absolutely fantastic, great work!
oh ,I like it!
Fantastic... great ride. Wonderful work.!
That was as realistic a ride that could be. Great cinematography and amazing landscaping. Thanks for all your time and effort in making this video. 🚂
In a word spectacular all the rest of the hard to beat this one
A very realistic layout! Very enjoyable video. I have personally seen the layout many times but this was a new view of an amazing layout!
Totally inspirational. An inspiring to see the Loop. An the rota that the Locamotive took. Real Amazing. 👍
The most beautiful example of model railroading I have ever seen. I'm a retired engineer from CSX so a little picky. There are a few things I would add in some of the signals and signage but, other than that, it's fabulous. I hope you are going to add some foliage to the bare spots around a couple of the staging yards but, like all of the model railroads I've seen, it's a work in progress. Great job.
Thanks John. The staging area is not open to the public and is not considered to be part of the prototype area being modeled. Therefore there is no incentive to add scenery to this part of the layout.
Hi Bill, ok, nuff said about that. I didn't know that is the case. I wouldn't decorate it either if no one is going to see it. If you're interested in my other thoughts, just let me know.
@@johnpollock291 Thanks again John. I am always interested in viewer comments. However, I should point out that my role and interests at the CMRM are only as videographer.
Nice touch with the open windscreen framing the shots.
Thanks for the ride
Wonderful! However, anyone notice the telegraph wire down at 7:57? Needs sorting before it drags a train into the creek!
Beautiful scenery!! What a nice layout!
Just absolutely blown away by the work on and the size of this layout. And the video work itself! Wow!
What would be involved in creating realistic tunnel interiors, lighting them and/or giving the locos bright enough lights to light the interiors of the tunnels? I haven't seen a model railroad layout that has done that has ever done that. I think it would be very cool to see that done. Also, I don't think that cab interior overlay looked very good and it distracted from the view too much.
Thanks for the cab view. A Grandfather that died long before I was born drove these over the Sierra's.
Thank you for posting. Did your grandfather leave any photos from his time working for the Southern Pacific? If so, there are many groups on the internet that would love see them.
Bill Rogers no photos
Perfection! At 18:06, it looks like there may have been a collision with a poor unfortunate animal from another train. I think there may be a carcass along the hillside as well. Played that part at half speed, and that red splotch peaked my interest. May be just my imagination.
Maybe it was a snack for the creature lurking at 18:40.
@@billr991 Yep...that explains it. LOL. Wife and I were visiting Yellowstone and a few other places. Epic trip! Took the Durango and Silverton Train from Silverton to Durango, after going down into the mines. Fun trip. Would have been great to have seen your museum. Must plan on it the next trip out there. Really enjoy your videos.
I seen the red spot, no carcass. Nice feature non the less.
@@billr991 LOL!
My Grandfather was SP breakman in the 40s. Rode the rails through Donner to Tahoe from Sacramento. Met my grandmother in an RPO who went on to Post Master (Mistress) the P.O. @ Isleton, Ca. 95641 in 1950s. Grandad would tell tales of the Cab Forwards and the tunnels. Dad rode the SP to college @ Stockton, Davis & Sacramento and back.
Now that’s a true cab ride
Great stuff! Especially since there were other trains running. So often when cab rides are recorded, they are the only train on the line and everything else looks dead.
They should make ‘camera trains’ so you can wear 3d goggles and drive yourself from the cab, that would be epic
That's pretty neat. I started singing the theme to Petticoat Junction. :)
"There's uncle Joe he's moving kinda slow at the junction. Petticoat junction." Lol 😆😆😆😆😆
Beautiful!
what a fanstatic lay out
Incredible! Thanks!
Positively outstanding!
Amazing!
Hi Bill..Love Love love these cab view videos!! (Eastbound diesel too) But I had to watch the steam Westbound in segments as the steam chuffs were constant mono, after 10 mins of watching I had to change the video or go running down the street naked screaming!!! lol ,,,many thanks for these great videos of Greeley , I need to go there
Lower the sound on your computer or tv.
It sounded like the loco was working on only one set of cylinders. Would've been nice to hear the two sets going in and out of phase with each other.
Oh yes, thats what I did. Did not want to miss this awesome video.
@@kiwitrainguy It does sound like the drivers get out of sequence occasionally. Check about 20:30. (You ought to try to manually sinc four piston engines on a full-size DC-7 sometime.)
Isn’t it amazing how tiny the cameras have gotten so far?
Lol the cam isn't inside the cab
Outstanding video. If I had this layout and you guys had a feather we would both be tickled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was truly brilliant... the meets, the outside shots, the cab itself and the choice of 4275, the scenery and I especially dug the evidence of rock slides and the placing of rubble, etc....
Yeah, I really enjoyed the ride.
A suggestion: If y'all could rig a "look back" shot when on a long curve... maybe with a mirror (?) or I know, a flatcar momentarily in front of the engine w/ the camera a bit to the side and pointing towards the rear, zoomed to take some of the engine out of the shot? that'd be cool.
Thanx and...
cheers
I want a picture of cam how small is it
I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed your series of videos on the museum layout. The attention to detail and craftsmanship is just mind blowing. Any chance you'll make some videos of operations at Lakeview and Coos Bay? Those locations are sadly under-represented in your videos.
Thanks. Glad you like the videos. I was at a meeting just yesterday where we started development for a series of operations videos.
I look forward to those!
Did I smell brake linings at 26:42?
Habitually, I'm interested in seeing it from Japan.
Where can i get overlays like this?
I wonder if grinding a notch in the rails every 36 feet would give you that clikity-clack sound of wheels running over track joints?
That would be 39' and the sound would be very tinny.
These vids are awesome, but could you post them without the overlay? I think it would be cool to get to see more of the scenery. Cheers!
You are seeing most of the scenery. The cab interior mostly obscures off layout material -- signs, windows, lights, etc.
If that sound is close to authentic, how did the crews keep from being hypnotized into a deep sleep?
What is the make/model of the loco at .32?
Not a big fan of h.o. layouts but this one is truly amazing beautiful all the way thru and amazing detail.
How did the camra fit in that cab
It didn't. The camera was on a drop-center flatcar pushed ahead of the train. The cab interior is a mask applied in post production.
can u put cam at the back
Yes we have done that. Watch ruclips.net/video/LHYVvEb3dEU/видео.html
We've also used cameras mid train. For example: ruclips.net/video/RfL9_nTxfDE/видео.htmlm45s
and ruclips.net/video/PDWqKXPCbB8/видео.htmlm51s
The emphasis in this video was a cab ride. So I stayed with a more or less continuous shot of the track ahead.
07:57 = "Better get a C&S crew out here... we got a power line down trackside near the girder bridge".. :-)
I like how you darkened the inside of the cab as the train went through tunnels... very nice editing detail. Accurate height on the lens as well... excellently done! Do you have a shot of the camera rig?
At the start, about 17 seconds in, where is that? I do not recognize it.
Hi Ed, I shot that on my layout at home. I did a similar shot at the museum that I was going to use to introduce the cab forward concept to viewers who might not be familiar with it, but it was unusable. I didn't feel like delaying the video for yet another trip to the museum.
Columbia & Cowlitz boxcar sighting at 4:21!!
WOW!
Is the cab interior a picture from a part of your house or inside the engine it’s self?
Our home is not quite that industrial looking. The cab interior is from a photo of an actual cab forward locomotive. Scott Inman who is a docent at the California State Railroad Museum took the picture of 4294's cab for me. The photo is actually of the fireman's side. It was flipped left to right and highly edited in Photoshop to make the windows transparent and to fix the lighting and color. The door on the engineer's side of 4294 is permanently blocked open by a new floor that was installed a while back. That ruins the engineer's side photos for cab ride purposes.
I used Adobe Premiere Pro to superimpose the photo (with the transparent windows) on the footage shot at the Colorado Model Railroad Museum. The video camera was a Sony FDR-X3000 action cam mounted on a depressed center flatcar. There are some clips showing the camera set-up at the end of the Eastbound Big Cab Ride video. See ruclips.net/video/9cULL7QcErQ/видео.htmlm55s
Bill Rogers that was a mouth full but it explained a lot and great video
It was a cut and paste from an earlier reply to a similar question.
Bill Rogers oh well still it’s an amazing video
A 45 minute mainline loop. Wow
perfekt !!!!
A stunning railway but I soon got tired of the cab gimmick as it just got in the way of the artistry we were passing.
That was great, love the interior of the cab, I've got to figure a way to do that to my C.F. was that an interior kit?
Thanks Joe. The cab interior is from a photo of an actual cab forward. Scott Inman who is a docent at the California State Railroad Museum took the picture of 4294's cab for me. The photo is actually of the fireman's side. It was flipped left to right and highly edited in Photoshop to make the windows transparent and to fix the lighting and color. The door on the engineer's side of 4294 is permanently blocked open by a new floor that was installed a while back. That ruins the engineer's side photos for cab ride purposes.
I used Adobe Premiere Pro to superimpose the photo (with the transparent windows) on the footage shot at the Colorado Model Railroad Museum. The video camera was a Sony FDR-X3000 action cam mounted on a depressed center flatcar. There are some clips showing the camera set-up at the end of the Eastbound Big Cab Ride video. See ruclips.net/video/9cULL7QcErQ/видео.htmlm55s
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Sounds like an old sewing machine!
you have passenger trains and they can go faster .. they are very !!!
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THERES NO WAY THE CAMERA FIT INSIDE TH ACTUAL CAB OF THAT H.O. LOCOMOTIVE,WINDOW VIEW IS ALL WRONG,AWSOME LAYOUT THOUGH
You're right, the camera was not inside the model locomotive - as it says in the video description. I'm not sure why you say the view is all wrong, though: Bill made the mask from a photo taken inside the cab of the last existing Cab Forward locomotive, at the California State RR Museum. Unless you're referring to the fact that the view out the window is too centered, whereas the Engineer's view would be offset more to the outside. Unfortunately, the camera was too big to properly offset it far enough to the side. Very few decent-quality cameras are small enough to allow such an offset.
Need to fly a DJI Spark over that and edit some of that in. Otherwise Awesome
Two points:
Drones pose an unacceptable risk to the scenery and structures.
This is primarily a cab ride.
Bill Rogers keep them videos going awesome
Beautiful layout....plenty of hard work. That cab view kinda blocked the view and that irritating train noise....Killed the whole mood....But, thanks for trying to make it different.
This sound is awful. Really awful.
Fake video