I'm 60 hours into my new playtrough and i feel like CDPR's writing finally gets time to shine. I just love the sidequests they do. The kidnapping quest with River, "Dream on" with the Peralez's, Chippin' in with Johnnny and the crucifixion with the prisoner turned religious. So many memorable quests! It makes me sad for the devteam, that so many people gave the game a pass because of all the issues. I'm absolutely loving the game atm. It may not be at the level of Witcher 3, but it is damn close.
@@j0nnyism Objectively I think that's about right. Personally though, The Witcher series is special to me. Played the first, loved it. After that I played The Witcher 2, it became my favorite game of all time and it stayed that way for years until the Witcher 3 came out. I haven't been as immersed into a game as that one ever since. So yeah, I think the sidequests in Cyberpunk are about on par with The Witcher 3. But I just love the characters in W3 so much more. The main quest is the real draw for me. Cyberpunk has the most immersive open world though, gotta give props there.
This game has great content but the way it is set up and presented is terrible. I have only been able to enjoy the game because I’ve come back two years later, have completely forgotten the story, and am solely sticking to gig work as a result. Not only that but I’ve had to deliberately skip looting anything because you get more eddies in a random chest than for completing the gig itself. The game sets you up for something it’s not designed around. You come for Night City but will have to actively fight against the V show to have it.
I liked it to begin with, as far as story goes. there were so many bugs and gameplay issues that made it lackluster at launch though. they put some shine on those things I didn't like before, they did it well, now this game is something truly polished as far as gaming experiences go. I hate that it takes a failed launch and the due criticism to fix it, but maybe that's just a sign of the times in this sphere of entertainment. I just hope that stories like this and stories like what's happened with other games like No Mans Sky reestablish the fundamental values which made this industry such a market force before the greed of potential profits destroyed its soul.
The writing of CDPR is, imo, what make them so much better than say, Bethesda. No matter what the issue is in their games they always tell compelling stories that I actually want to see to the end.
Witcher 3 is so overrated. Awful easy spammy gameplay even o Death March, awful loot system, awful AI, awful alchemy, awful equipment progression, Ubisoft world, etc.. People like you who think Witcher 3 is an awesome RPG are the reason RPG genre went to the toilet, now everybody creates spammy "action RPG's". But yeah thank God for Larian and Owlcat but then again their games are probably way to hard for your brain.
For me, it was Pathfinder: Kingmaker. I have found a handful of channels looking up stuff for video games but never one that went so deep into so many games that I also play. The overlap is, quite frankly, amazing.
Ive been a fan for a good while now because im a pretty big crpg fan. Mortum is a very nice guy (replies to fans and whatnot) ans always has great objective and informative content and hes always transparent. One of my favorite channels on RUclips. Hope you stick around for a while :)
Just a side note now in 2.1, after you do certain quests, depending on your choices, gangs will actually respond to your actions accordingly. For example, after dealing with Maelstrom in act 1, if you go in and kill everybody they will begin a vendetta against you, and depending on where you’re driving, Maelstrom gang members will chase after you in cars. Also now metro stations are available throughout the city!
Yeah I love these idiots spawning behind me while I'm doing a mission, smashing me into some NCPD and I die in two seconds to break my immersion. Why not a well crafted set of encounters where they attack you at certain points in the story? Metro stations was a good addition though.
I just beat the game for a second time. The way the city feels so alive now is insane. I loved just driving or walking around and feeling like I was there.
The open world city is amazing. Cdpr has redeemed themselves in my book. Still won’t pre-order games any more though. Also planning on getting the dlc. Sad that multiplayer got scrapped
@@aeneas116116yea mulitplayer couldve been such a unique experience for this world but i guess for the better it didnt work out. Im assuming they will try and implement this into the sequel.
@@dustxyes and no, netrunning by itself isn’t super strong but there’s new synergy with other skills like monowire and smart weapons that make it way better
Nah, companies shouldn't be let off for releasing terrible products. It's great they came back to it and fixed everything but a lot people were burned by the original full release - if it was early access then sure but not when it's branded as the final product
I would agree in general it would be great for the consumers. But in cyberpunk case? If you look at reviews before the release the game is still not even close to that. Nowadays cyberpunk is just above average game, and doesn't really need re-review.
I'm in two minds about re-reviews of games that have gotten updated. On one hand, you want your review to be accurate for new players. On the other, you want developers to sell functioning, complete products at launch. When you update your review, you are making that launch matter less. There is also a thing to be said about letting developers change the product you've paid for on a whim. Remember when patches were an optional thing you had to manually install? Most people probably didn't even bother with that. Now if a developer messes up with an update, it takes a lot more work for you to roll it back. You have to mod the game or download an earlier version of it from some sketchy third party website. And if you do, it's probably not going to be feature-complete.
@@cmdr.jabozerstorer3968there's a sunken car underwater under the offramp of a highway, near Judy's place if I'm not misremembering. But that's little more than the hundreds of other little Easter eggs hidden in nooks and alleyways. The real treat is that there are like 15 hidden gigs in cyberpunk that don't show up on the map.
One DLC I'd love to see is the friendship V and Jackie had before Cyberpunk 2077. I really liked everything that character added to the game and hated it when he was written out. Yes we know he is going to die but give us more time with him in the game, not the cut scenes presented. They could make it happen after the initial character creation and go from there.
@@JooshMaGoosh You mean "imagine, if they had bothered to actually establish the character" ^^ It's hard to care about dramatic moments, when you know the guy for like 40 minutes.
@@arsenelupin9697 That’s what I’m saying! He was such a cool guy and they didn’t flesh out his character at all barely. We saw the great side of him at the memorial of him at mama wells bar. But we didn’t get to live it with him in the game. They absolutely should have kept him around longer. We do need a dlc with him!
@@maxrulov7331 it depends on the how much effort and time a modder wants to spend working without the tools the developers had to make the same things. as in like 10x as much effort and time to develop something a developer could in the same period.
I dont have much time and usually only watch the conclusion, but know that I still really appreciate the care and the work you put in these review. You re S tier sir
I know this wasn't the intention, but having a story in the Cyberpunk genre that no matter what the characters do, always ends up in the same place at the end is quite fitting.
For a person with a skull as their RUclips profile the actual presentation of the vids are a lot more fairer than I would have thought. Love how fair but positive you are with this vid and the Starfield review.
I've been replaying it from the beginning and I love the game. The immersion is really good, the combat feels great, runs smooth as butter (for me) and the environments feel alive.
@diomedes7971dishonored has great melee combat so idk what you’re talking about. Doesn’t feel floaty at all every action leads to a weighty reaction. The game is commonly talked about for its great swordplay
I'm having a lot of fun with a stealth knife thrower build. Knives return after 5 sec, so equipping 3 and rotating them it's a lot of fun and looks cool af
One of the major annoyances I had with the original game was the static nature of the world. There appear to be random encounters but in reality they were just set pieces, like the ambulance at a crash site with flashing lights that just sits there throughout the entire game. I wonder if that has been changed now. Diving in next week.
i drove past an ambulance & seen the medics all around the victims then when i decided to drive back i saw them lift off & fly away & i also encounter random car chase shootouts that aren’t set pieces so yea they world is a little more dynamic, especially in dogtown i’ve seen goons get into random shootouts with the main faction there
@@arsenelupin9697 All they need is still some better police, still slightly better driving, and more fight/mma skills and working out to get buff like gta San Andreas. GTA 5 still doesn’t have those things. San Andreas and Vice City Stories had things other games didn’t. Even China Town Wars had drug dealing. One is a DS game and the other a PSP game. Portable handheld games. GTA hasn’t done much better. They need things in GTA 6 that they had in those older games!
There are many little random events involving police and gang interactions. You'll sometimes see police chasing gang cars. But other than that there aren't many random encounters with any meat. Tbh I don't know of any game that has ever achieved that. The closest is maybe Fallout new vegas but they only felt random because there were so many of them-they were all hand crafted events that everyone will see in a playthrough. I'm actually incredibly excited for a future roguelike that uses AI NPCs and dialogue to have these randomly generated events.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341nah it ain’t. GTA Online is one of the most innovative MMO style games ever made. It may not have all the futuristic content or RPG/Skill Tree elements but nearly everything else is leaps ahead of CP2077: MMO, vehicle customization, flying vehs, 3rd person, vastly superior NPC and environmental interaction, and most important no linear shutdown to make you quit game once the story is over. Don’t get me wrong, I like CP and have put 500 hours into it. I also can’t stand the toxic community of GTAO, but there’s a reason it’s the best selling game of all time.
One of improvements I've liked the most are the improvements to stability and performance. I've had big issues in that department before, but now gameplay is really smooth, especially with frame generation on. I also like the changes to economy and loot. It used to be that there is an abundance of it but most of it had next to no value when selling them, making inventory management more tedious than it needs to be and making most loot feel unrewarding. I'd pretty quickly end up with tons of guns and would often have to disassemble many of them to make room for stuff that is worth something. But now guns are as valuable as they should be and not every enemy drops them. Oh, and by far the best change to combat balance is the fact that healing items now have a cooldown. Before you could just coast through any fight by constantly huffing healing items. The only criticism I have about healing now is that CDPR should have went further by allowing only a single use until the cooldown is over instead of two uses.
It's BS that only 4xxx series cards have frame generation. The 4xxx series cards aren't offering much in the way of value over the 3xxx series (other than the 4090) so they are handicapping the 3xxx purposely IMO.
On console, stability and performance both actually took a hit for me. I now get framerate drops while driving and crashes are more common than at launch, about 1 per hour. But nothing horrible. I play Fromsoft games so I'm used to lol
@@gametime2473the 40 series cards have specific hardware that enable frame generation to work at an adequate level, the optical flow accelerator. The 30 series don't have the throughput for it to work. It is not bullshit, it is a hardware limitation. At least we have DLSS 3.5 on the 30 series now.
I think the argument that 30 series cards can't handle frame generation is propaganda by NVIDIA to sell graphics cards. The 40 series cards offer NOTHING above the 30 series cards other than the 4090. Yeah, the 40 series cards are more efficient out of the box but if you know how to undervolt, you will quickly realize that even that is BS.@@izak5356
What made this game feel alive for me was that when i finished prologue I witnessed a 10v10 gang shootout with the occasional 5 cops trying to intervenve... 1 guy survived the entire fight and walked away... This game gave me the exact same feeling that when you see 2 dinosaurs brawl it out in Horizon Zero dawn.. its amazing and breath fresh air into the game. I had 1 single bug, and that was a guitar mission toward the end of the game, my character was not showing and the guitar was free floating. other then that, pretty much clean experience.
This is exactly the viewpoint that I have had since around v1.5 and still stand by it. The game is great. But, so many people have forgotten many of the promises that were made that the game will never deliver on. It's great, but because it will never be what I wanted it to be, it'll always be a let down to me.
Mortym at it again with the in-depth top notch content. I don’t get to catch up videos as much as I used to but it’s always a definite watch, like and comment. Keep up the good work Mortym and take care of yourself
Baldurst gate 3 Early Access released on 2020 and the final game released on 2023, Cyberpunk 2077 Early Access released on 2020 and the final game released on 2023... 2023 is the Bomb!
I love Night City and the game-world. After playing Starfield it was almost jarring to drop back into an environment that actually feels like a real city with all the nooks and crannies and stairwells and alleys. I always enjoy myself when I play this game and have done three playthroughs for the various patches, with the fourth on the way right now. But yeah, it's a roleplay-light experience. Kind of the same approach that Mass Effect has. You get to customize the appearance of the character, get to determine the gender and background. But you don't really get to make roleplay choices. You will always be that smarmy, smartass merc. You can't roleplay as someone stoic or completely benevolent or someone unhinged with anger issues 'cause the voiced protagonist will always reply in the one singular way that you are meant to be in the game. It's definitely a flaw, but not one that puts me off this game. I still love it and find my time in that cyberpunk world incredibly enjoyable.
It's still way more fun than Starfield and blows it away graphically. Especially with the ray tracing that is absolutely awesome in Cyberpunk and breathes life into the world if you have a PC to handle it. I just started both games this last week after 2.0 and I can tell you one thing, I am already done with Starfield and haven't played it since I started Cyberpunk. It is a way better game after all the updates than I think Starfield will ever be. I kind of think Starfield is a tedious, walking and load screen simulator bereft of creative spark and imagination.
I disagree.. such a limited view on what makes a game true RPG.. people don't have a problem calling the Final Fantasy games RPG when they are way, way more limited in role-playing than CP77.. isn't Vampire Bloodlines a RPG because you are a vampire through the whole game? Just because a RPG has a character that is more established and has a history or a role in the game-world (like Geralt in the Witcher games or V in CP77) that automatically means they aren't RPG? CP77 has pretty much everything that makes game a RPG
It performs fine on a mid-range gaming PC. I'm running it on an i7-9770 with a 2060, 16GB of RAM and a SATA SSD) and it runs perfectly fine. The only bugs I've seen have been objects interacting with doors and that hasn't been game breaking. I agree with your summary pretty well. It's now the game it should have been on launch and it's a great Action RPG-Lite (or Action Adventure) game. The main disappointment a lot of people have is the over-hyping under-delivering nature of it. And it's great to hear someone else see this as a study from a business perspective of marketing damaging the final product. I'd say there could be a very good video made about the contrasting business-side effects on the final product and its reception between Cyberpunk2077 and Baldur's Gate 3.
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head really when you talk about how it's really not an RPG at all in terms character choices mattering and the narrative. Good to see I'm not the only one that thought the whole Brain Dance thing was poorly implemented. I was disappointed how gangs weren't really fleshed out at all and they're basically just fodder for you to fight. You can spend hours in Night City but never really known much about any of them despite how much of a big part they play in the general world of Night City. Maybe it's because some of them were created for the game, I think, so don't have the deep lore that they would have if they were from the RPG itself? They could have implemented a reputation system where gangs might attack you or even help out if you're fighting on their territory, They could have had gang specific side missions and gear unlocked via reputation, seems like a lot of potential was just overlooked. As an action game it's really good, the soundtrack is excellent and the general aesthetics are really good but there's no overlooking the marketing hype train CDPR created for a game that they basically didn't make.
I never played this game until probably a year after launch but IMO this was already one of the best games ever. Looking forward to playing the game from scratch as a streetkid, the only character I haven't finished the game with.
After I finish BG3 (next year some time 😂) I'll replay this game. I thought it was amazing my first time through and am looking forward to going back to Night City.
@@2genders-tk2uereally? I’ve only seen some minor visual bugs like a guy in the floor or a car floating but besides that the games run super smooth on my Xbox series X
Good review, but I would like to offer some criticism about it. I know you said you're not worried about spoiling a 3 year old game, but there are a lot of old games I haven't played and dont want to be spoiled because I intend to play in the future. It doesn't matter how old a game or a piece of media is, a review should refrain from spoilers. And if you do spoil, there should be warnings before each one. You mentioned one could use the chapters in your video to avoid spoilers, well then it should be clearly divided for a chapter to skip a spoiler, like a chapter called "story spoilers" or something. Because the chapter "Story and thoughts" also includes your opinion and analysis, which is not spoiling stuff and is relevant for a review. Other than that, I know it's a lot of work to produce a video like this, keep it going!
I just want to point out how justified the netrunning quickhack build nerf was. It was in my opinion by far the most broken build. If you had the perk with quickhacks dealing 100% more damage to unaware targets everything could be one-shot by Short Circuit, even groups of enemies if you had the spread perk. Short Circuit was on a 2 seconds cooldown if you went into the perk tree further. Bosses were the only actual combat encounters. Now normally you might say 'but I can kill everything very quickly with blades and guns also', true, but you had a risk factor. Stay stealthed with quickhacks and nothing ever challenges you. The game becomes more like a point and click and I don't think the devs had that in mind when they made quickhacks.
I started a new character and had a game breaking bug where I couldn’t do the Kompeki plaza heist because my character clips through the elevator when I try to go up to the room with Jackie. I had to pull an old save on an old character to get past that point.
So wait, with this update they fixed the facial animations, revamped the skill tree and eliminated a huge portion of bugs? Huge CDPR W forsure I wish my buddy was here to see this
Finally a review that doesn't forget the initial empty promises and isn't all hyped about it. Thanks for a very unbiased review. Will wait for DLC to be on a major discount before I decide to buy into the hype again.
Which promises in particular? Because many of the things said about this game weren’t really from developers, but by people hyping the game up. I remember reading stuff in articles and when you look for sources they are streamers or RUclipsrs saying they’ve heard this or that’s in the game.
At some point during the Witcher 2/3 times CDPR seriously began to annoy me with their over the top way to create hype and cringy "gAmEr" style PR, so for Cyberpunk I ignored pretty much all of it, didn't care much for the backlash either and just started around Patch 1.2 when it all had cooled down a bit, basically expecting nothing but what the box art and basic Cyberpunk knowledge told me. Well, and a Sphere Hunter review tbh. And I absolutely loved the game, especially the storyline and it's presentation. Don't care if it had less choices than advertised, didn't care if it wasn't the GTA-Killer it was hyped up as, what CDPR clearly has is some of the best writers in the industry who easily kept me at the edge of my seat, that and the phantastic presentation/acting was enough for me. There were certainly things I wished had been done better, mostly more exploration and side content for Night City, some more late game/post-romance stuff for companions, but overall CP2077 always was just great game for me, already at 1.2. I know a lot of people who still haven't played it because they hold such a grudge against CDPR for being lied to, which just taught me a valuable lesson about PR hype again - they'll all miss out on a really good game because they were so hyped up for an unachievable dream, or they play it and only count the things CDPR didn't deliver.
What kills the game for me is the fact that you dont feel free at all. The city is just a beautiful cenario. But the freedom and immersion is 100% broke.
This game in it's 2.0 rebirth for me is up there at the top of my all time favorites. I think many of those crashing on launch or with corrupted saves have had mods installed int the past and have not cleaned up their install fully.
Forsure, Im playing cyberpunk for the first time with 2.0 and I had one crash so far in 27 hours, one glitch involving a car doing a backflip and then being inaccessible, and I think a gun clipping in a wall that I wanted… but thats it, been an incredibly smooth experience otherwise
@@evanbelisle8464I didn't ran into huge amount of bugs even on was it 1.36 release which I played through. Most annoying was that item stats didn't appear and had to offset cross hair a bit or occasionally they didn't appear at all. Also few times dropped items dropped through floor. But nothing game breaking and not even once game actually crashed. Oh and on that cave mission when I failed restart resulted in that chick being in T-pose stature inside car. One thing to note is that in very early on game seemed more buggy from installed hard drives. When I moved install to ssd every oddity related cars especially seemed to disappear. I think game just couldn't stream assets fast enough from hdd.
Smartguns + Monowire + Dashing was where I ended up landing on my Very Hard playthrough. Sprinkle in some stealth and light netrunning and I found, at least for me, the most engaging way to play the game. It's stylish and there's a decent push and pull with the enemies. Jumping in on a group of enemies with a charged Monowire attack to inflict Weapon Glitch quickhack on the first target and then spreading it to his buddies with follow up attacks never got old.
Just discovered your channel. Really enjoy how you tackle topics, and do so in such a calm manner. Also it's cool to hear you're kind of a 100% completion person 👍
Clothing thing fix is almost disappointing. It was hilarious for character have like flip-flops, borat swimsuit, fur coat, some high tech gauntlets and pimp hat to get best specs 😂
Kinda sad actual bodyarmor (not fancy tshirts) do not add defence, and other clothes adding advantages in other contexts, missed opportunity to have different clothes setups depending on what you are doing, like being denied entry to a club while wearing military gear but getting into a gunfight, wearing a suit when dealing with corpo's, sht like that.
I’m at odds with the “choice and consequence” thing. They definitely oversold it, which is wrong. However… I’ve never played a story driven RPG with this cathartic of a combat system. If this was marketed, in its current state, as a futuristic open world “Farcry-esque” action game, it would be praised, and the choices cyberpunk gives you relative to that style of game would be a positive,not a negative. I’ve played CP for over 200+ hrs, not because of different story outcomes, but because the combat is so damn fun. And the story is amazing, not becuase of how different it could be, but because of the quality of itself. Story wise, it’s like giving a TV show a more recent binge. I know what’s gonna happen, and I know it’s gonna be dope.
I played through this game 2X in a row on PS4 after the 1.6 or 1.7 patch and loved it. I have the PS5 version and plan to buy the DLC this weekend. I'm excited to see how different it really is. Great video!
So one thing I'll always address when people talk about choice in gaming is that there are two types of stories: plot driven and character driven. I think with most reviewers, including here, they view "choices" as only meaningful if they result in different plot based outcomes, rather than character based outcomes. The V (and Johnny) you play can end up as wildly different characters depending on your choices. To me, that's more meaningful than plot based choices. Breaking Bad is a story about a man who starts in one place and ends up somewhere else entirely. The plot based stuff is almost incidental and certainly the less interesting part of the show. "There's just dialog differences..." Dialog differences are the difference between your mother loving you or not, how meaningful your friendships are, how you interact with the world and how it responds. Dialog differences are the only differences.
@@funzy101 I'm saying interpersonal decisions and decisions about who you are as a person count for more than a decision of whether you fight Adam Smasher in a parking garage or Daddum Basher in a shopping mall. Cyberpunk has plenty of the former. I don't care about the later.
The one thing I like about the cosmetics now is an armored vest will actually provide some armor same with military helmets, they also go up in armor levels like from 15 to 20 to 25 then I'm yet to find higher
In terms of the water of Night City - there’s a character in the story that goes missing depending on what choices you make… and you can find them under water dead with cement shoes. That’s all I’ll say
Many of the problems people have can probably be traced back to leftover pieces of old mods, or people overclocking components in their PC that then can't handle Cyberpunk 2.0 I've played version 2.0 for about 20 hours now and haven't had a single crash.
I think they should have focused more on the main story and put a bit less effort into creating tons of gigs and the side content. Doing the sidequests feels a bit pointless knowing that your character is going to end up dead no matter how hard you work. They should have structured the main story where if you do enough of the sidequests, you can get a good ending.
I'll never forget playing this on an Xbox One as my first time. Waiting for it to officially release in my region so that I could play it. "It's Cyberpunk, of course it's going to be good" The disappointment in the state of the game, the absolute adoration for the story, Kerry playing a sweet melody on the back of a yacht, riding with Panam into the sunset. A very memorable time.
Level scaling is done well enough, I dont get all the hate. It keeps the enemies at a relatively consistent difficulty, while you scale more than they do. It made no sense for full borg gang members outside your apartment to be one-shot by a cheap pistol you bought from a vending machine, nor have the Valentinos being stronger than the Trauma team and Maxtac.
I agree. For me, certain perks/skills I wouldn’t even go for in RPG’s if I feel like it will make the game too easy. I like my character to be strong and formidable but not unkillable. I want the hardest difficulty to get a really good fight. It keeps things interesting that way when enemies scale with you.
There is plenty of impactful decisions made in this game, they just do not change the overall story, but can change the tone. Like what happens to meredith, where you send jackie body, if you decide to help panam or rat her out, decide to help judy or not You can ditch rivers and leave him to die, and lots of other smaller changes. I think people want massive deviations in the story, but honestly as long as the game acklowedge what I do, I could not care less.
Everyone is raving about the "17000" endings to BG3 but in fact there is some variation of the same endings so exactly the same as CP2077 or say TW3 and most if not all the RPG I know (and I Played a lot of RPG) so blaming CP2077 for this is pretty lame.
@@Yutani_Crayven There is nothing to fix. The main story despite its issues is better than most things on the market, and the performances presented here are some of the best on the market. To say it the worst you seen is either an exaggeration, or you have not played a lot of games man.
Great review and helpful tips. I love CP2077, I play on PS5 which can be prone to sound/animation bugs (relic shimmer and sound effect has plagued my latest clean start so after 30hrs playthrough I am just gonna have to delete it). I haven't even touched the surface of PL (managed to get past the Chimera which was a total ball breaker) but it looks a load of fun...that's my weekend planned out ;) Going to do it on an existing character...I will attempt a clean start at some stage to fully test out the new mechanics/builds.
Netrunning definitely wasn't nerfed, imo -- if anything it's stronger post-2.0 (as long as you go all the way into int and unlock overclocking). The main downside of netrunning is that it's a bit less flashy than going heavy into guns/blades/fists, and it can be a bit clunky and slow down the flow of combat to constantly be scanning and hacking. That being said, in many encounters I can clear entire rooms undetected without firing a single shot. High-tier hacks like synapse burnout and system collapse can crit for tens of *thousands* of damage.
Cyberpunk's biggest sin was trying to shoehorn this monster piece of software onto a dinosaur like the old consoles. They strung themselves all the way out trying to include as many gamers as possible and the flak they caught was deserved. PC version is and always was a solid game.
I appreciate your summary, which points out the positives and what this would look like to someone just coming into the game, while also acknowledging that the people who were waiting for CP2077 to be what CDPR advertised never got what was promised!
The poor out of context ending just to force it to be depressing and negative of the DLC disregards the personality of the characters and just feels bad. And I think it's impossible to ignore the issues from the promises at launch too. I plan on a second playthrough but the bullet sponginess bugs me still as does the level design and some of the open world focus. I don't know if I can say "great" game now. But I am glad to see someone bother to actually make *some* criticisms. Anti-Criticism nature is so tiresome for reviewers to the point they are untrustworthy. Be far more critical of BG3 tho, it deserves way more criticism.
I just got back on it after the all the updates, and I must say cyberpunk is an amazing with cutting edge graphics, lighting system, store, lure. They really redeemed themselves as I knew they would.
Having had no expectations at launch, played it after a number of months then, and finally replaying the entire thing for nearly double my initial play through, I’d recommend this to anyone. There’s stuff to nitpick here for sure, but if you get caught up in that then idk it kinda feels like you’re trying to stop yourself from having fun. I realize that’s a Mort special pizza right there lol. Loved the analysis too, looking forward to the next one
I think night city is the best location in any game I've played, 2 missed things would be car and gun customization, the world building is next to none... I'd like to see them create an original IP
At launch i did no gigs (short missions) only speeding the main and some side stories, now i'm so pumped to get xp and test my build that i almost reached the level cap before starting the DLC.
I still had major bugs. T poses and stuff like that. I bought a 2080 in 2020 just to play Cyberpunk. Tried the 2.0 update. At this point it's easier to say I don't like this game. Witcher 3 was my favorite before BG3 hit so I gave it too many chances. Playing a game I didn't really like. Glad the hardcore fans like it. But I hope CDPR does another Witcher or more choice and consequence based RPGs in the future.
Great review ! After 2.0 and phantom liberty cyberpunk is one of my favorite games i’ve played Absolutely love it and can’t stop playing it (on my 3rd play through)
I'm loving the new update and glad that I can (finally) do a full playthrough of the game now that it's in a better state. But god damn, it's infuriating that they still never fixed that scene in the beginning with Takemura and the assassins on bikes. Nothing you do in that scene matters! It's such a cool set piece but it takes you out of it when you realize the entire scene is just on rails and you can sit back and watch with no consequences.
The thing with RPGs is that I usually don't care about the story at all. Half the time I don't even know what's going on. I play these games to develop my character, level up and get loot. That's the fun for me. So as you said, there's not a lot of choice in the story in this game, there's a lot of choice in the gear so this is the kind of game I like.
Hope that for Cyberpunk 2 they add more choices and consequences, meaningfull backgrounds and made Night City more interactive/immersive. Agreed with you when you said that Cyberpunk 2077 will never be the game they promised. Is more an action game than an RPG.
The 2.0 update has definetey improved the game a lot! I do think that the game is not as good as many people put it, precisely for what you say in your conclusions, the RPG side of the game, while not terrible nor awful, is definetly not one of its strongest point. It feels more like an action adventure where you are just experiencing what V did with very few deviations. Adding to this that I expected more options in terms of customization, for you, for your cars, for your build, for you weapons maybe, the game does fall flat for me. But, I still think its a great game, especially played as action adventure. Overall, for me its a 7, maybe an 7.5 out of 10. I havent tried the DLC yet because there is no way I will buy CD Project Red products on day one any longer, sad because it was one of the few companies I usuadlly did. But the DLC just seems like more of the same, so maybe the complete edition might jump to an 8.
@@S0LAVELLANHELL its literally what mortis said, and what most reviewers are saying I have no idea, havent tried yet, so I will see when I played in a few years I guess
This game runs a LOT better now. I have a lower-end PC, running a 1660 Super and a Ryzen 7 3700X, and it auto set most settings to high and I have had no issues. I lowered a few things myself, such as shadows, but the only place I've really seen any frame drops were in Dogtown.
I played on a fairly decent PC at launch and apart from maybe a broken quest here or there most of what I experienced was just random t-posing jank and some map markers being in the wrong place. Didn't go all completionist with it at the time, as wanted to wait for them to patch it up, the story dlc and a much better graphics card. All of those things are true now, so its ready to be played just as soon as I finish Baldurs Gate up.
Worth noting that my frame rates INCREASED noticeably on my GTX 1060 6GB after the 2.0, 2.1, and 2.11 updates. The game is now pretty enjoyable on this card, which was not the case when I bought it in late 2021.
I'm 60 hours into my new playtrough and i feel like CDPR's writing finally gets time to shine. I just love the sidequests they do. The kidnapping quest with River, "Dream on" with the Peralez's, Chippin' in with Johnnny and the crucifixion with the prisoner turned religious. So many memorable quests! It makes me sad for the devteam, that so many people gave the game a pass because of all the issues. I'm absolutely loving the game atm. It may not be at the level of Witcher 3, but it is damn close.
@@j0nnyism Objectively I think that's about right. Personally though, The Witcher series is special to me. Played the first, loved it. After that I played The Witcher 2, it became my favorite game of all time and it stayed that way for years until the Witcher 3 came out. I haven't been as immersed into a game as that one ever since.
So yeah, I think the sidequests in Cyberpunk are about on par with The Witcher 3. But I just love the characters in W3 so much more. The main quest is the real draw for me.
Cyberpunk has the most immersive open world though, gotta give props there.
This game has great content but the way it is set up and presented is terrible. I have only been able to enjoy the game because I’ve come back two years later, have completely forgotten the story, and am solely sticking to gig work as a result. Not only that but I’ve had to deliberately skip looting anything because you get more eddies in a random chest than for completing the gig itself.
The game sets you up for something it’s not designed around. You come for Night City but will have to actively fight against the V show to have it.
I liked it to begin with, as far as story goes. there were so many bugs and gameplay issues that made it lackluster at launch though. they put some shine on those things I didn't like before, they did it well, now this game is something truly polished as far as gaming experiences go. I hate that it takes a failed launch and the due criticism to fix it, but maybe that's just a sign of the times in this sphere of entertainment. I just hope that stories like this and stories like what's happened with other games like No Mans Sky reestablish the fundamental values which made this industry such a market force before the greed of potential profits destroyed its soul.
The writing of CDPR is, imo, what make them so much better than say, Bethesda. No matter what the issue is in their games they always tell compelling stories that I actually want to see to the end.
Witcher 3 is so overrated. Awful easy spammy gameplay even o Death March, awful loot system, awful AI, awful alchemy, awful equipment progression, Ubisoft world, etc.. People like you who think Witcher 3 is an awesome RPG are the reason RPG genre went to the toilet, now everybody creates spammy "action RPG's". But yeah thank God for Larian and Owlcat but then again their games are probably way to hard for your brain.
This Channel is great. I found it searching for Baldur's Gate 1+2 Information. The video library is a gold mine and the new stuff is great as well.
For me, it was Pathfinder: Kingmaker. I have found a handful of channels looking up stuff for video games but never one that went so deep into so many games that I also play. The overlap is, quite frankly, amazing.
@@FaxanaduJohnprobably not here, or they would’ve seen the stuff from a year ago.
Ive been a fan for a good while now because im a pretty big crpg fan. Mortum is a very nice guy (replies to fans and whatnot) ans always has great objective and informative content and hes always transparent. One of my favorite channels on RUclips. Hope you stick around for a while :)
@@FaxanaduJohn Your comment is truly absurd, to the point where it's hard to know if you're even being serious.
@@natefoldan 🤣 thanks for the laugh
Just a side note now in 2.1, after you do certain quests, depending on your choices, gangs will actually respond to your actions accordingly. For example, after dealing with Maelstrom in act 1, if you go in and kill everybody they will begin a vendetta against you, and depending on where you’re driving, Maelstrom gang members will chase after you in cars. Also now metro stations are available throughout the city!
Yeah I love these idiots spawning behind me while I'm doing a mission, smashing me into some NCPD and I die in two seconds to break my immersion. Why not a well crafted set of encounters where they attack you at certain points in the story? Metro stations was a good addition though.
@@Peaches-i2i Thanks for telling the truth lol
I played this at launch and shelved it after an hour. I started a new run this week and simply can't get enough - having a blast with it!
I just beat the game for a second time. The way the city feels so alive now is insane. I loved just driving or walking around and feeling like I was there.
The open world city is amazing. Cdpr has redeemed themselves in my book. Still won’t pre-order games any more though.
Also planning on getting the dlc.
Sad that multiplayer got scrapped
@@aeneas116116yea mulitplayer couldve been such a unique experience for this world but i guess for the better it didnt work out. Im assuming they will try and implement this into the sequel.
they improved the driving?
@@Phlebz yep
Being netrunner is so much fun. Freaking love it.
it's still easy mode ? I've played netrunner at launch and it was way too easy
@@dustxyes and no, netrunning by itself isn’t super strong but there’s new synergy with other skills like monowire and smart weapons that make it way better
@@dustx I could say it is easy. But I went with hard settings to play this game so it a bit more of a challenge.
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Anyone that said easy should test their build on 2.0 maxtac lol.
@@SoftExo This game is very easy with any build honestly, is not just netrunner.
Just the amount of things going on in the city, the scale and scope, attention to detail of the city is impressive.
there is nothing going on, Lifeless Ai, suddenly disappearing NCP, Cop system even worse than gta vice city, its a lifeless world imao
@@RanjithKumar-TipsSo much misinformation in this comment, and old GTA games are insanely overrated.
Wish more games got rereviews most of the big sites rarely ever do it but with the way gaming is now days i think it is really needed
Nah, companies shouldn't be let off for releasing terrible products. It's great they came back to it and fixed everything but a lot people were burned by the original full release - if it was early access then sure but not when it's branded as the final product
Just make a good game in the first place
I would agree in general it would be great for the consumers. But in cyberpunk case? If you look at reviews before the release the game is still not even close to that. Nowadays cyberpunk is just above average game, and doesn't really need re-review.
I'm in two minds about re-reviews of games that have gotten updated. On one hand, you want your review to be accurate for new players. On the other, you want developers to sell functioning, complete products at launch. When you update your review, you are making that launch matter less.
There is also a thing to be said about letting developers change the product you've paid for on a whim. Remember when patches were an optional thing you had to manually install? Most people probably didn't even bother with that. Now if a developer messes up with an update, it takes a lot more work for you to roll it back. You have to mod the game or download an earlier version of it from some sketchy third party website. And if you do, it's probably not going to be feature-complete.
@@ramilgarifullin3702yeah bro, sure 😂
There is actually at least one really fun underwater easter egg type thing involving Meredith Stout if you ignore her quest or betray her.
It does not justify the vast amount of breathing potions you collect during a walkthrough
I believe there's also someone else you can find in or around the water too but yeah, don't think you need to swim for that, iirc.
@@DarthSchumtheres items related to breathing underwater? Lol
I found at least one legendary and one iconic weapon underwater
@@cmdr.jabozerstorer3968there's a sunken car underwater under the offramp of a highway, near Judy's place if I'm not misremembering.
But that's little more than the hundreds of other little Easter eggs hidden in nooks and alleyways. The real treat is that there are like 15 hidden gigs in cyberpunk that don't show up on the map.
One DLC I'd love to see is the friendship V and Jackie had before Cyberpunk 2077. I really liked everything that character added to the game and hated it when he was written out. Yes we know he is going to die but give us more time with him in the game, not the cut scenes presented. They could make it happen after the initial character creation and go from there.
imagine that intro montage was playable.
@@JooshMaGoosh You mean "imagine, if they had bothered to actually establish the character" ^^
It's hard to care about dramatic moments, when you know the guy for like 40 minutes.
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That’s what I’m saying! He was such a cool guy and they didn’t flesh out his character at all barely. We saw the great side of him at the memorial of him at mama wells bar. But we didn’t get to live it with him in the game. They absolutely should have kept him around longer.
We do need a dlc with him!
That's a great idea actually
@@maxrulov7331 it depends on the how much effort and time a modder wants to spend working without the tools the developers had to make the same things.
as in like 10x as much effort and time to develop something a developer could in the same period.
I dont have much time and usually only watch the conclusion, but know that I still really appreciate the care and the work you put in these review. You re S tier sir
Mortismal channel deserves more views and subs!
I know this wasn't the intention, but having a story in the Cyberpunk genre that no matter what the characters do, always ends up in the same place at the end is quite fitting.
For a person with a skull as their RUclips profile the actual presentation of the vids are a lot more fairer than I would have thought. Love how fair but positive you are with this vid and the Starfield review.
I've been replaying it from the beginning and I love the game. The immersion is really good, the combat feels great, runs smooth as butter (for me) and the environments feel alive.
I don’t normally care about immersion but I have to admit it really enhances cyberpunk
@diomedes7971dishonored has great melee combat so idk what you’re talking about. Doesn’t feel floaty at all every action leads to a weighty reaction. The game is commonly talked about for its great swordplay
@diomedes7971the melee is not the best in gaming. mantis blades alone are a disappointment.
… I take it back. Phantom Liberty new upgrades solved everything.
@diomedes7971 Try "Warhammer: Vermintide 2", that game has amazing melee combat. Really fun too! Think Left 4 Dead with swords and bows!
Night City is the most stunning city built in an open world game. Change my mind.
Get lost fanboy.
@@domagojkersun9630 🤡
Technically sure but Gta San Andreas is the only open world I memorized shortcuts.
@@Yutani_Crayven what exactly would want to be doing in the city that is impossible to do right now? ( just curious )
I'm having a lot of fun with a stealth knife thrower build. Knives return after 5 sec, so equipping 3 and rotating them it's a lot of fun and looks cool af
where tf do you find throwing knives. im 25 hours in and havent seen one
@@jimster1111 All knife type weapons are throwable, there are some axes and tomahawks in game that you can throw too!
@@jimster1111 any small knife or hatchet. Press aim, then fire.
Just wait untik you get the instant return perk on a headshot and you’ll need only one
@@jimster1111every knife nearly are throwing knife
Thank you for this re-review as few people would care to make another analysis of a game that is already on the market but has improved a lot!
Yeah!
One of the major annoyances I had with the original game was the static nature of the world. There appear to be random encounters but in reality they were just set pieces, like the ambulance at a crash site with flashing lights that just sits there throughout the entire game. I wonder if that has been changed now. Diving in next week.
i drove past an ambulance & seen the medics all around the victims then when i decided to drive back i saw them lift off & fly away & i also encounter random car chase shootouts that aren’t set pieces so yea they world is a little more dynamic, especially in dogtown i’ve seen goons get into random shootouts with the main faction there
Hasn't changed much.
The police still spawns right behind you.
Maybe wait another 2-3 years and the game will be on par with early GTA games ^^
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All they need is still some better police, still slightly better driving, and more fight/mma skills and working out to get buff like gta San Andreas.
GTA 5 still doesn’t have those things. San Andreas and Vice City Stories had things other games didn’t. Even China Town Wars had drug dealing. One is a DS game and the other a PSP game. Portable handheld games.
GTA hasn’t done much better. They need things in GTA 6 that they had in those older games!
There are many little random events involving police and gang interactions. You'll sometimes see police chasing gang cars. But other than that there aren't many random encounters with any meat. Tbh I don't know of any game that has ever achieved that. The closest is maybe Fallout new vegas but they only felt random because there were so many of them-they were all hand crafted events that everyone will see in a playthrough.
I'm actually incredibly excited for a future roguelike that uses AI NPCs and dialogue to have these randomly generated events.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341nah it ain’t. GTA Online is one of the most innovative MMO style games ever made. It may not have all the futuristic content or RPG/Skill Tree elements but nearly everything else is leaps ahead of CP2077: MMO, vehicle customization, flying vehs, 3rd person, vastly superior NPC and environmental interaction, and most important no linear shutdown to make you quit game once the story is over. Don’t get me wrong, I like CP and have put 500 hours into it. I also can’t stand the toxic community of GTAO, but there’s a reason it’s the best selling game of all time.
I always enjoyed the character stories of this game. Glad more of it is fixed up so others will experience them.
I just started playing this game again and it’s amazing!
Hardest part for me was ignoring the urgency. You can take as long as you like.😅
i dont think 20 to 30 hours just for the main story is short? or is that considered short now. other then that i loved the video. top work as always.
Honestly, probably short for him
It's crazy short tbh.
Compared to the Witcher 3 it’s pretty short
@@HOFxBoardsduh 😭
@@HOFxBoards would say witcher 3 is just straight up too long
One of improvements I've liked the most are the improvements to stability and performance. I've had big issues in that department before, but now gameplay is really smooth, especially with frame generation on. I also like the changes to economy and loot. It used to be that there is an abundance of it but most of it had next to no value when selling them, making inventory management more tedious than it needs to be and making most loot feel unrewarding. I'd pretty quickly end up with tons of guns and would often have to disassemble many of them to make room for stuff that is worth something. But now guns are as valuable as they should be and not every enemy drops them. Oh, and by far the best change to combat balance is the fact that healing items now have a cooldown. Before you could just coast through any fight by constantly huffing healing items. The only criticism I have about healing now is that CDPR should have went further by allowing only a single use until the cooldown is over instead of two uses.
It's BS that only 4xxx series cards have frame generation. The 4xxx series cards aren't offering much in the way of value over the 3xxx series (other than the 4090) so they are handicapping the 3xxx purposely IMO.
On console, stability and performance both actually took a hit for me. I now get framerate drops while driving and crashes are more common than at launch, about 1 per hour. But nothing horrible. I play Fromsoft games so I'm used to lol
@@glowerwormwhat console you having that issue with. Mines been really smooth on Xbox series X
@@gametime2473the 40 series cards have specific hardware that enable frame generation to work at an adequate level, the optical flow accelerator. The 30 series don't have the throughput for it to work. It is not bullshit, it is a hardware limitation. At least we have DLSS 3.5 on the 30 series now.
I think the argument that 30 series cards can't handle frame generation is propaganda by NVIDIA to sell graphics cards. The 40 series cards offer NOTHING above the 30 series cards other than the 4090. Yeah, the 40 series cards are more efficient out of the box but if you know how to undervolt, you will quickly realize that even that is BS.@@izak5356
What made this game feel alive for me was that when i finished prologue I witnessed a 10v10 gang shootout with the occasional 5 cops trying to intervenve... 1 guy survived the entire fight and walked away... This game gave me the exact same feeling that when you see 2 dinosaurs brawl it out in Horizon Zero dawn.. its amazing and breath fresh air into the game. I had 1 single bug, and that was a guitar mission toward the end of the game, my character was not showing and the guitar was free floating. other then that, pretty much clean experience.
I've been hoping you would make this vid! Thank you!!👐
This is exactly the viewpoint that I have had since around v1.5 and still stand by it. The game is great. But, so many people have forgotten many of the promises that were made that the game will never deliver on. It's great, but because it will never be what I wanted it to be, it'll always be a let down to me.
Mortym at it again with the in-depth top notch content. I don’t get to catch up videos as much as I used to but it’s always a definite watch, like and comment. Keep up the good work Mortym and take care of yourself
Mortismal channel deserves more views and subs!
@@Dracobyte This is so true
As with Witcher 1, 2 and 3 we got an Enhanced Edition with 2.0 for Cyberpunk 2077. It's a blast. I'm looking forward to their future titles.
Baldurst gate 3 Early Access released on 2020 and the final game released on 2023,
Cyberpunk 2077 Early Access released on 2020 and the final game released on 2023...
2023 is the Bomb!
The difference is one entered EA in 2020 one was fully released in 2020 so yeah go and pretend how CDPR didn't released a buggy mess.
@@domagojkersun9630 I think it was a joke chief
I love Night City and the game-world. After playing Starfield it was almost jarring to drop back into an environment that actually feels like a real city with all the nooks and crannies and stairwells and alleys. I always enjoy myself when I play this game and have done three playthroughs for the various patches, with the fourth on the way right now.
But yeah, it's a roleplay-light experience. Kind of the same approach that Mass Effect has. You get to customize the appearance of the character, get to determine the gender and background. But you don't really get to make roleplay choices. You will always be that smarmy, smartass merc. You can't roleplay as someone stoic or completely benevolent or someone unhinged with anger issues 'cause the voiced protagonist will always reply in the one singular way that you are meant to be in the game. It's definitely a flaw, but not one that puts me off this game. I still love it and find my time in that cyberpunk world incredibly enjoyable.
It's still way more fun than Starfield and blows it away graphically. Especially with the ray tracing that is absolutely awesome in Cyberpunk and breathes life into the world if you have a PC to handle it. I just started both games this last week after 2.0 and I can tell you one thing, I am already done with Starfield and haven't played it since I started Cyberpunk. It is a way better game after all the updates than I think Starfield will ever be. I kind of think Starfield is a tedious, walking and load screen simulator bereft of creative spark and imagination.
Well The witcher was pretty similar and well received so everyone coming from the witcher should be OK with this.
I disagree.. such a limited view on what makes a game true RPG.. people don't have a problem calling the Final Fantasy games RPG when they are way, way more limited in role-playing than CP77.. isn't Vampire Bloodlines a RPG because you are a vampire through the whole game? Just because a RPG has a character that is more established and has a history or a role in the game-world (like Geralt in the Witcher games or V in CP77) that automatically means they aren't RPG? CP77 has pretty much everything that makes game a RPG
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and thank you!
Pretty nuts how I wasn't subscribed to you but your videos take up my feed. Fixed that!
If this was the game we got at launch it would’ve won game of the year
30:43 that aged well...but seriously I'm glad they added the tram system. City feels even more alive.
It performs fine on a mid-range gaming PC. I'm running it on an i7-9770 with a 2060, 16GB of RAM and a SATA SSD) and it runs perfectly fine. The only bugs I've seen have been objects interacting with doors and that hasn't been game breaking.
I agree with your summary pretty well. It's now the game it should have been on launch and it's a great Action RPG-Lite (or Action Adventure) game. The main disappointment a lot of people have is the over-hyping under-delivering nature of it. And it's great to hear someone else see this as a study from a business perspective of marketing damaging the final product. I'd say there could be a very good video made about the contrasting business-side effects on the final product and its reception between Cyberpunk2077 and Baldur's Gate 3.
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head really when you talk about how it's really not an RPG at all in terms character choices mattering and the narrative.
Good to see I'm not the only one that thought the whole Brain Dance thing was poorly implemented.
I was disappointed how gangs weren't really fleshed out at all and they're basically just fodder for you to fight. You can spend hours in Night City but never really known much about any of them despite how much of a big part they play in the general world of Night City. Maybe it's because some of them were created for the game, I think, so don't have the deep lore that they would have if they were from the RPG itself? They could have implemented a reputation system where gangs might attack you or even help out if you're fighting on their territory, They could have had gang specific side missions and gear unlocked via reputation, seems like a lot of potential was just overlooked.
As an action game it's really good, the soundtrack is excellent and the general aesthetics are really good but there's no overlooking the marketing hype train CDPR created for a game that they basically didn't make.
The best way I can describe it: Cyberpunk 2077 is the sequel to Farcry 3 everyone wanted.
30:30 There is a tram system now 🎉
I never played this game until probably a year after launch but IMO this was already one of the best games ever. Looking forward to playing the game from scratch as a streetkid, the only character I haven't finished the game with.
After I finish BG3 (next year some time 😂) I'll replay this game. I thought it was amazing my first time through and am looking forward to going back to Night City.
@@2genders-tk2uereally? I’ve only seen some minor visual bugs like a guy in the floor or a car floating but besides that the games run super smooth on my Xbox series X
You should deffo play the expansion too
New UnderRail DLC announced today too!
Good review, but I would like to offer some criticism about it. I know you said you're not worried about spoiling a 3 year old game, but there are a lot of old games I haven't played and dont want to be spoiled because I intend to play in the future. It doesn't matter how old a game or a piece of media is, a review should refrain from spoilers. And if you do spoil, there should be warnings before each one. You mentioned one could use the chapters in your video to avoid spoilers, well then it should be clearly divided for a chapter to skip a spoiler, like a chapter called "story spoilers" or something. Because the chapter "Story and thoughts" also includes your opinion and analysis, which is not spoiling stuff and is relevant for a review. Other than that, I know it's a lot of work to produce a video like this, keep it going!
I just want to point out how justified the netrunning quickhack build nerf was. It was in my opinion by far the most broken build.
If you had the perk with quickhacks dealing 100% more damage to unaware targets everything could be one-shot by Short Circuit, even groups of enemies if you had the spread perk. Short Circuit was on a 2 seconds cooldown if you went into the perk tree further. Bosses were the only actual combat encounters.
Now normally you might say 'but I can kill everything very quickly with blades and guns also', true, but you had a risk factor. Stay stealthed with quickhacks and nothing ever challenges you. The game becomes more like a point and click and I don't think the devs had that in mind when they made quickhacks.
I started a new character and had a game breaking bug where I couldn’t do the Kompeki plaza heist because my character clips through the elevator when I try to go up to the room with Jackie. I had to pull an old save on an old character to get past that point.
So wait, with this update they fixed the facial animations, revamped the skill tree and eliminated a huge portion of bugs? Huge CDPR W forsure I wish my buddy was here to see this
Finally a review that doesn't forget the initial empty promises and isn't all hyped about it. Thanks for a very unbiased review. Will wait for DLC to be on a major discount before I decide to buy into the hype again.
Which promises in particular? Because many of the things said about this game weren’t really from developers, but by people hyping the game up. I remember reading stuff in articles and when you look for sources they are streamers or RUclipsrs saying they’ve heard this or that’s in the game.
Not many people do a re-review for games that have improved a lot since their launch, so thank you for your effort.
At some point during the Witcher 2/3 times CDPR seriously began to annoy me with their over the top way to create hype and cringy "gAmEr" style PR, so for Cyberpunk I ignored pretty much all of it, didn't care much for the backlash either and just started around Patch 1.2 when it all had cooled down a bit, basically expecting nothing but what the box art and basic Cyberpunk knowledge told me. Well, and a Sphere Hunter review tbh. And I absolutely loved the game, especially the storyline and it's presentation. Don't care if it had less choices than advertised, didn't care if it wasn't the GTA-Killer it was hyped up as, what CDPR clearly has is some of the best writers in the industry who easily kept me at the edge of my seat, that and the phantastic presentation/acting was enough for me. There were certainly things I wished had been done better, mostly more exploration and side content for Night City, some more late game/post-romance stuff for companions, but overall CP2077 always was just great game for me, already at 1.2. I know a lot of people who still haven't played it because they hold such a grudge against CDPR for being lied to, which just taught me a valuable lesson about PR hype again - they'll all miss out on a really good game because they were so hyped up for an unachievable dream, or they play it and only count the things CDPR didn't deliver.
What kills the game for me is the fact that you dont feel free at all. The city is just a beautiful cenario. But the freedom and immersion is 100% broke.
This game in it's 2.0 rebirth for me is up there at the top of my all time favorites. I think many of those crashing on launch or with corrupted saves have had mods installed int the past and have not cleaned up their install fully.
Forsure, Im playing cyberpunk for the first time with 2.0 and I had one crash so far in 27 hours, one glitch involving a car doing a backflip and then being inaccessible, and I think a gun clipping in a wall that I wanted… but thats it, been an incredibly smooth experience otherwise
Same. Bugs drive me crazy and the game still has a ton of bugs. Despite that it’s one of my favorite games
Probably is the case especially with how I wasn't able to load into the game without crashing, and that was cause of leftover mod files and folders
@@evanbelisle8464I didn't ran into huge amount of bugs even on was it 1.36 release which I played through. Most annoying was that item stats didn't appear and had to offset cross hair a bit or occasionally they didn't appear at all. Also few times dropped items dropped through floor. But nothing game breaking and not even once game actually crashed. Oh and on that cave mission when I failed restart resulted in that chick being in T-pose stature inside car. One thing to note is that in very early on game seemed more buggy from installed hard drives. When I moved install to ssd every oddity related cars especially seemed to disappear. I think game just couldn't stream assets fast enough from hdd.
the save corruption issue is present on the ps5 too
Smartguns + Monowire + Dashing was where I ended up landing on my Very Hard playthrough. Sprinkle in some stealth and light netrunning and I found, at least for me, the most engaging way to play the game. It's stylish and there's a decent push and pull with the enemies. Jumping in on a group of enemies with a charged Monowire attack to inflict Weapon Glitch quickhack on the first target and then spreading it to his buddies with follow up attacks never got old.
Suddenly the 'gonk move' of jumping in with wires vs a pack of 'smart' people with guns isn't stupid. I like it.
That intro music hits every time
I play this game on the Steam Deck, runs at 30fps and still has decent graphics. Surprisingly, the game has a Steam Deck preset for graphics.
Just discovered your channel. Really enjoy how you tackle topics, and do so in such a calm manner.
Also it's cool to hear you're kind of a 100% completion person 👍
Clothing thing fix is almost disappointing. It was hilarious for character have like flip-flops, borat swimsuit, fur coat, some high tech gauntlets and pimp hat to get best specs 😂
my theory is that when they added Keanu they completely shifted focus from a more RPG take to an action adventure with Keanu at your side.
Kinda sad actual bodyarmor (not fancy tshirts) do not add defence, and other clothes adding advantages in other contexts, missed opportunity to have different clothes setups depending on what you are doing, like being denied entry to a club while wearing military gear but getting into a gunfight, wearing a suit when dealing with corpo's, sht like that.
I’m at odds with the “choice and consequence” thing. They definitely oversold it, which is wrong. However… I’ve never played a story driven RPG with this cathartic of a combat system. If this was marketed, in its current state, as a futuristic open world “Farcry-esque” action game, it would be praised, and the choices cyberpunk gives you relative to that style of game would be a positive,not a negative. I’ve played CP for over 200+ hrs, not because of different story outcomes, but because the combat is so damn fun. And the story is amazing, not becuase of how different it could be, but because of the quality of itself. Story wise, it’s like giving a TV show a more recent binge. I know what’s gonna happen, and I know it’s gonna be dope.
One of the best youtubers of all time, love the isometric game guides and reviews man keep up the good work!!
I played through this game 2X in a row on PS4 after the 1.6 or 1.7 patch and loved it. I have the PS5 version and plan to buy the DLC this weekend. I'm excited to see how different it really is. Great video!
Any idea how I change the camera whilst driving pls mate? The controls menu doesn't have any info
@@bricktop.D pad
So one thing I'll always address when people talk about choice in gaming is that there are two types of stories: plot driven and character driven.
I think with most reviewers, including here, they view "choices" as only meaningful if they result in different plot based outcomes, rather than character based outcomes.
The V (and Johnny) you play can end up as wildly different characters depending on your choices.
To me, that's more meaningful than plot based choices. Breaking Bad is a story about a man who starts in one place and ends up somewhere else entirely. The plot based stuff is almost incidental and certainly the less interesting part of the show.
"There's just dialog differences..."
Dialog differences are the difference between your mother loving you or not, how meaningful your friendships are, how you interact with the world and how it responds.
Dialog differences are the only differences.
@@funzy101 I'm saying interpersonal decisions and decisions about who you are as a person count for more than a decision of whether you fight Adam Smasher in a parking garage or Daddum Basher in a shopping mall.
Cyberpunk has plenty of the former. I don't care about the later.
This interested me more than the DLC. Thanks man.
The one thing I like about the cosmetics now is an armored vest will actually provide some armor same with military helmets, they also go up in armor levels like from 15 to 20 to 25 then I'm yet to find higher
You honestly made me double check that the game was a few years old.
Just 3 YEARS.... suprisingly well
Honestly so glad I waited to play this. Having such a blast. Just upgraded my gfx card a week ago and I'm blown away how good this game is
It really sucks that we were promised a "deep rpg" but we just got a good FarCry game after 3 years
It's really pretty too! (And optimized, unlike FC6)
this isnt deus ex.... looks pretty but shallow
comparing one of the best written games of the past few years to fucking ubisoft slop has to be a crime.
In terms of the water of Night City - there’s a character in the story that goes missing depending on what choices you make… and you can find them under water dead with cement shoes. That’s all I’ll say
Many of the problems people have can probably be traced back to leftover pieces of old mods, or people overclocking components in their PC that then can't handle Cyberpunk 2.0
I've played version 2.0 for about 20 hours now and haven't had a single crash.
Going pure samurai was actually interesting this time around and you still manage to be op by the endgame but it feels earned.
The original review was the one that got me watching your channel! This should be interesting
This review is a lot better then lots of beginner's guides i watched.
I think they should have focused more on the main story and put a bit less effort into creating tons of gigs and the side content. Doing the sidequests feels a bit pointless knowing that your character is going to end up dead no matter how hard you work. They should have structured the main story where if you do enough of the sidequests, you can get a good ending.
You can find stuff underwater, like the corpse of Meredith Stout and I even remember looting a couple of legendary items from underwater.
The train/tram system is coming with the new ultimate edition update
43:26 Action adventure? I think you mean murder-hobo simulator. Onward to 300k. All glory to the algorithm.
nice re-review, and the way you say sandevistan brought me much laughter
Always appreciate ur videos man.. even if I don’t agree with u on everything, I still appreciate these videos .. great work
I'll never forget playing this on an Xbox One as my first time. Waiting for it to officially release in my region so that I could play it. "It's Cyberpunk, of course it's going to be good"
The disappointment in the state of the game, the absolute adoration for the story, Kerry playing a sweet melody on the back of a yacht, riding with Panam into the sunset. A very memorable time.
Level scaling is done well enough, I dont get all the hate. It keeps the enemies at a relatively consistent difficulty, while you scale more than they do. It made no sense for full borg gang members outside your apartment to be one-shot by a cheap pistol you bought from a vending machine, nor have the Valentinos being stronger than the Trauma team and Maxtac.
I agree. For me, certain perks/skills I wouldn’t even go for in RPG’s if I feel like it will make the game too easy.
I like my character to be strong and formidable but not unkillable. I want the hardest difficulty to get a really good fight. It keeps things interesting that way when enemies scale with you.
There is plenty of impactful decisions made in this game, they just do not change the overall story, but can change the tone.
Like what happens to meredith, where you send jackie body, if you decide to help panam or rat her out, decide to help judy or not
You can ditch rivers and leave him to die, and lots of other smaller changes. I think people want massive deviations in the story, but honestly as long as the game acklowedge what I do, I could not care less.
Everyone is raving about the "17000" endings to BG3 but in fact there is some variation of the same endings so exactly the same as CP2077 or say TW3 and most if not all the RPG I know (and I Played a lot of RPG) so blaming CP2077 for this is pretty lame.
Remember Witcher 2?
Agreed!
@@Yutani_Crayven There is nothing to fix. The main story despite its issues is better than most things on the market, and the performances presented here are some of the best on the market. To say it the worst you seen is either an exaggeration, or you have not played a lot of games man.
Great review and helpful tips. I love CP2077, I play on PS5 which can be prone to sound/animation bugs (relic shimmer and sound effect has plagued my latest clean start so after 30hrs playthrough I am just gonna have to delete it). I haven't even touched the surface of PL (managed to get past the Chimera which was a total ball breaker) but it looks a load of fun...that's my weekend planned out ;) Going to do it on an existing character...I will attempt a clean start at some stage to fully test out the new mechanics/builds.
Netrunning definitely wasn't nerfed, imo -- if anything it's stronger post-2.0 (as long as you go all the way into int and unlock overclocking). The main downside of netrunning is that it's a bit less flashy than going heavy into guns/blades/fists, and it can be a bit clunky and slow down the flow of combat to constantly be scanning and hacking. That being said, in many encounters I can clear entire rooms undetected without firing a single shot. High-tier hacks like synapse burnout and system collapse can crit for tens of *thousands* of damage.
Cyberpunk's biggest sin was trying to shoehorn this monster piece of software onto a dinosaur like the old consoles. They strung themselves all the way out trying to include as many gamers as possible and the flak they caught was deserved. PC version is and always was a solid game.
I appreciate your summary, which points out the positives and what this would look like to someone just coming into the game, while also acknowledging that the people who were waiting for CP2077 to be what CDPR advertised never got what was promised!
The poor out of context ending just to force it to be depressing and negative of the DLC disregards the personality of the characters and just feels bad. And I think it's impossible to ignore the issues from the promises at launch too. I plan on a second playthrough but the bullet sponginess bugs me still as does the level design and some of the open world focus.
I don't know if I can say "great" game now. But I am glad to see someone bother to actually make *some* criticisms. Anti-Criticism nature is so tiresome for reviewers to the point they are untrustworthy. Be far more critical of BG3 tho, it deserves way more criticism.
I just got back on it after the all the updates, and I must say cyberpunk is an amazing with cutting edge graphics, lighting system, store, lure. They really redeemed themselves as I knew they would.
Thanks you so much for revisiting CP 2077!
Having had no expectations at launch, played it after a number of months then, and finally replaying the entire thing for nearly double my initial play through, I’d recommend this to anyone. There’s stuff to nitpick here for sure, but if you get caught up in that then idk it kinda feels like you’re trying to stop yourself from having fun. I realize that’s a Mort special pizza right there lol. Loved the analysis too, looking forward to the next one
I think night city is the best location in any game I've played, 2 missed things would be car and gun customization, the world building is next to none... I'd like to see them create an original IP
At launch i did no gigs (short missions) only speeding the main and some side stories, now i'm so pumped to get xp and test my build that i almost reached the level cap before starting the DLC.
I still had major bugs. T poses and stuff like that. I bought a 2080 in 2020 just to play Cyberpunk.
Tried the 2.0 update. At this point it's easier to say I don't like this game. Witcher 3 was my favorite before BG3 hit so I gave it too many chances. Playing a game I didn't really like.
Glad the hardcore fans like it. But I hope CDPR does another Witcher or more choice and consequence based RPGs in the future.
Great review !
After 2.0 and phantom liberty cyberpunk is one of my favorite games i’ve played
Absolutely love it and can’t stop playing it (on my 3rd play through)
I'm loving the new update and glad that I can (finally) do a full playthrough of the game now that it's in a better state. But god damn, it's infuriating that they still never fixed that scene in the beginning with Takemura and the assassins on bikes. Nothing you do in that scene matters! It's such a cool set piece but it takes you out of it when you realize the entire scene is just on rails and you can sit back and watch with no consequences.
Same with the Nomad chase with Jackie, I think.
One of my all time favorite games. Been playing since the 1.6 patch and loved every second. On my third playthrough, now with the dlc.
The thing with RPGs is that I usually don't care about the story at all. Half the time I don't even know what's going on. I play these games to develop my character, level up and get loot. That's the fun for me. So as you said, there's not a lot of choice in the story in this game, there's a lot of choice in the gear so this is the kind of game I like.
Hope that for Cyberpunk 2 they add more choices and consequences, meaningfull backgrounds and made Night City more interactive/immersive.
Agreed with you when you said that Cyberpunk 2077 will never be the game they promised. Is more an action game than an RPG.
The 2.0 update has definetey improved the game a lot! I do think that the game is not as good as many people put it, precisely for what you say in your conclusions, the RPG side of the game, while not terrible nor awful, is definetly not one of its strongest point. It feels more like an action adventure where you are just experiencing what V did with very few deviations.
Adding to this that I expected more options in terms of customization, for you, for your cars, for your build, for you weapons maybe, the game does fall flat for me.
But, I still think its a great game, especially played as action adventure. Overall, for me its a 7, maybe an 7.5 out of 10.
I havent tried the DLC yet because there is no way I will buy CD Project Red products on day one any longer, sad because it was one of the few companies I usuadlly did. But the DLC just seems like more of the same, so maybe the complete edition might jump to an 8.
you couldn't be anymore wrong about the dlc lol
I mean, the game had more rpg elements and endings than fallout 4,Skyrim, and starfield combined.
@@S0LAVELLANHELL its literally what mortis said, and what most reviewers are saying
I have no idea, havent tried yet, so I will see when I played in a few years I guess
@@Dr.Yakub22 I mean... that is a straight up lie 😂
They confirm cyberpunk 2 lol just wait until then to buy the game,by that time it's be cheaper and PC optimisation at that time hopefully improve 😂😂😂
This game runs a LOT better now. I have a lower-end PC, running a 1660 Super and a Ryzen 7 3700X, and it auto set most settings to high and I have had no issues. I lowered a few things myself, such as shadows, but the only place I've really seen any frame drops were in Dogtown.
I played on a fairly decent PC at launch and apart from maybe a broken quest here or there most of what I experienced was just random t-posing jank and some map markers being in the wrong place. Didn't go all completionist with it at the time, as wanted to wait for them to patch it up, the story dlc and a much better graphics card. All of those things are true now, so its ready to be played just as soon as I finish Baldurs Gate up.
I'm so glad I waited until 2.0 to get into this game. I'm really liking it.
hav u payed 70 Bucks?
Worth noting that my frame rates INCREASED noticeably on my GTX 1060 6GB after the 2.0, 2.1, and 2.11 updates. The game is now pretty enjoyable on this card, which was not the case when I bought it in late 2021.