NEW insta360 vs NEW Telesin Extended Selfie Stick - which extended selfie stick is best?
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- Which 3 metre extended selfie stick is best - the new insta360 carbon fibre extended selfie stick or the new Telesin extended selfie stick.
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In this video Rich from Eat Sleep 360 compares the new insta360 extended selfie stick with the new telesin 3 metre extended selfie stick 
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Your video is UNIQUE because out of the 6 video reviews of Telesin long selfie sticks I've watched, yours is the ONLY ONE that mentions its limitations. Besides, yours is also the only one that compares it with the Insta360 stick. We need MORE REVIEWERS LIKE YOU. Thank you very much
Thanks for the comment much appreciate the kind words 👍
Thanks Rich for a great video! Spot on for those looking for the longer camera support!
Thanks for this review…been looking forward to it since you teased it. Great job!
Thank you for showing the bottom of the sticks to indicate that I can you a tripod base too. I'm sold!
Extremely helpful video. Thank so much for this very informative comparison.
Thanks for review helping to choose!
Very useful review. Infact I am planning to buy one extended selfie stick for newly bought insta 360 one x2. Ur reviews really helped.
Thanks Rich. Very knowledgeable and helpful.
Excellent review! Thanks.
Thank you for all this very easy to understand. I watched your other vid not realising you had this one. Lol ( all questions answered)
Glad it helped, thanks for watching
Great review. Keep it up!!!
Good info! Thanks Rich
Thank you for this in depth video. I broke 2 Insta360 sticks already. Switching to Telesin. I used it snowboarding each time and somehow the sections came apart the same way (so it must have been me, but I don't know how else I could have used it correctly.
Good informative video Rich, thanks for sharing and a very Merry Xmas 😄
Thanks very much and a Merry Christmas to you too 😃
I recently purchased a 2.5 metre stick. Primary testings is going well. 3 metres might be a little long if you want a bit of stability.
Thanks for this video 👍🏼
Nice vid. Thanks.
What is the tripod legs you using in this video?
So I had it for 2 weeks now and I have to admit even if using a proper Sirui tripod to make it more stable, extending this selfie stick to 3m with Qoocam 8K is something to watch out for. The swaying is quite large and the worries I have sometimes seems real. For normal length of 1.5-2m (normal human size) it's fine but going further isn't fun. I have insta360 aluminum 3m selfie stick and it hold its own. Just the problem is when it's folded. It's simply too long. New 3m improved carbon stick is great for portability and folding mechanism but it's wobbly.
My Telesin v2 has also that knocking sound even it is super tight when extended... 🤷🏼
good comparison. thanks
Great review and comparison man! I have one of the original 3M selfie sticks and the amount of bend & flex at full extension is a problem. I think I'll be getting this new Telesin stick for sure! The Insta360 stick is out of stock everywhere and I'm not sure it's worth more than twice the cost of the Telesin version. Thanks for helping make an informed desicison! Cheers
No worries, glad it helped - thanks for the comment
Not worth the Insta 360, mine broke at full extension in only 2nd use. Could not believe that! I'm new to using this so its a lesson learned on them but still cheaper than a drone I guess!
@@crosscountryminiadventures I bought the Telesin stick shortly after seeing this video. I've used it a lot and have been quite satisfied with it. It still has a little flex and bend at full extension but not so much that it's a real problem. I mostly use it with an Insta360 OneX camera to shoot various action shots that will be reframed in post that I wouldn't be able to get with any other type of camera. But I've also used this selfie stick as a boom/jib/crane with my mobile phone camera mounted on a Zhiyun smartphone gimbal attached to the end of the stick.
Thanks for the very good comparison. Made me pick the insta360. Cheers
Thanks for the info 👍
Thanks Rich for the review I “asked you for”😉. Short, comprehensive and detailed as usual 👍. Only one simple question: is the selfie stick visible (at the hand position) also with the One R? Thank you and greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭
At certain angles you may have to rotate the stick to hide the bend in the stitch line but generally it’s so wide it doesn’t notice
@@EatSleep360 thank you Rich for your useful answer. Ciao 👍🙋🏻♂️
Note that the Telesin 2 stick will rattle all the time unless it is fully extended making the audio unusable. I assume the Insta360 stick doesn't have this so this would be an argument to spend the extra buck though I suppose it will be too heavy for doing sports while holding it with a heavy camera like the One R in case.
Thanks for the review, the insta360 stick looks nice but as I already have the telesin I think there would be little to gain (and I'm not made of money 🤣). As you said I'm not sure it's worth twice the price.
Thanks Rich! Another great video! I am a bit concerned if either the telesin or 360 makes a rattling noise? Because if yes, this sound will be recorded by the 360 camera...
It would only make a noise if you bounced it around but yes any handling noise when extending it would probably pass through to the camera. The insta stick is quieter.
I'm poor, so I just use a broom stick. 😂😂😂😂
broomsticks are the cheapest and they don’t bend 😂
Just don't try to fly on it.
Good video, thanks 👍
Great review i bought the telesin...
Your awesome once again!
Thanks for watching
Hi Rich.
I have the Telesin pole and have used it for roof inspections - being able to stand either on the ground, or on a fire escape stair and place the camera to provide an aerial view of the roof, or sweep the camera over weak areas where I can't get to.
Very handy, but do find it very noisy and sometimes very difficult to extend /retract as I'm recording. It also bends beyond the stitching when fully extended. So, extra care has to be taken in making sure the stitch line is rotated vertically in order to eliminate this.
I have recently perchance the new insta360 pole, but dispite its price - due to demand, I haven't received it yet. The friction stop anywhere feature is what made me part with the heep of cash.
Both poles I feel are good for getting cool looking B-roll type shots, expecting these shots to be a lot smoother with the insta360 pole. Can't wait to find out, but for that price it better be good!
That’s a great use for it, I keep meaning to check our guttering. You’ll love the friction control of the new stick.
Hey Ray! How did the new stick work out for you??
@@Kevintendo
This camera pole is awesome! I would highly recommend it, not only for long swooping camera shots, but for inspection work too.
I have used it a lot on construction sites, taking initial photography for concept references and detailed design work. A 360 camera is ideal for this type of work, because you don't know what visual reference you'll need, while drawing up existing/proposed plans. There has been meny a time when the bit I needed was just outside a traditional cameras frame! I have put it to the test with video as well, and it gives loads of flexibility where it can be adjusted to any length.
I haven't been able to test it out for action sports yet, but ski season is just around the corner, so watch this space!
@@miyahollands6136 woohoo!! Thank you!!
Thanks for your review. Didn‘t notice that Telesin released a new version and was still waiting for Insta to have their stick back on stock. Ordered the Telesin right now!
Telesin is great value for money
Finally received mine and what I didn't know before your review is there is no locking mechanisms on it. I hope it won't budge after some time and keep sliding down. Is there any specifics as to what weight that friction can withstand? I have two tripods (one of them carbon) from Sirui and they are simply amazing. This stick was co-engineered with sirui which raised its quality in my mind another notch! I need it for virtual tours and so human eye height is desirable. 1.72m is default by Metareal stage so need to find that sweet spot on this stick as well. Thanks for the review
Thanks for the comment - time will tell on the friction, let’s hope it holds
I think I will get the Telesin, I wouldn't use the long stick enough to justify the cost. A thought on holding it in various positions, I wonder if a strip of silicon tape wrapped tightly around a join would work. This sticks to itself, is reusable and leaves no mess.
Yes that would work but I think it has enough positions that it won’t be inconvenient for you anyway - thanks for watching 👍🏼
O have some copy of telesin, and you are absolutely right, easy open section on insta is better to use) if you make on telesin or my copy, you have to make shots of 3 meters before change it, because not easy and quick and of course this mom met sections on copy of telesin is screwing and can last section close and without help to open... It is so make mad of crazy moment))
I will gonfor the telison new edition so eaxh sextion can be locked in place . I was debating between the allnof them. thank you for helpong me research all of my options. take care. and a big thank you.
I’ve had the telesin for a while and once you get used to the way it works it not annoying, insta design better but as I’ve already got the telesin I won’t be spending £110 on the insta.
Like always amazing review... thanks a lot...
You save me hundred and something € (euros).
I was thinking to change my Telesin V2. by the new Insta; but thanks to your review I’ll keep my Telesin till there’s a new and better option...
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Glad it was helpful - yeah if you have the telesin v2 there’s no need to change - thanks for watching
The link to the "New 3m insta360 extended selfie stick" in your comments seems to be broken. It doesn't go to the product page. I'd like to see the product page to see the specifications. Specifically, I'd like to know how many centimeters it is when closed. If you can find the link to the product, it would be nice. Thank you.
The middle section completely pulled out. Does anyone know if I can fix it? The friction control was to strong possibly? Thanks
Hi. I bought the Telesin 3m stick, however it has a GoPro adaptor on the end that I’m not sure can be removed (don’t want to unscrew too hard in case I crack carbon). I notice both your links to the Telesin have this GoPro adaptor attached as well in their advertising material…but there is not one attached in your video…what was your experience, as I’d like to remove it to get the “invisible selfie stick” look…keen to hear, as ill return this if there is an alternative Telesin product without GoPro attachment (couldn’t see one on their official website) Thanks for any help/advice you can give
@Eat Sleep 360 Hey Rich, do you think this stick is strong enough to withstand the force exerted on it at about 1.5 to 2 metres high, vertically, when braced on the X and Y axis on a motorcycle? I tried it unbraced, and it was a bit wobbly. So I tried it braced on the X axis (to limit sideways movement at the base) and it worked fine. I'm just worried the cam at the top, doing 80kpg for example, may be too much for the stick.
I don’t know for sure but I’m always very cautious with set-ups like this and probably wouldn’t take the risk in case it snapped and caused an accident. I know that’s not the answer you want - if you are going to do it then yes at those speeds I would support it on both axis’s. There’s no data with what the pole is capable of withstanding.
Do you have a new link to the Insta360 selfie stick? The link you provided just goes to the main page
Hey man great review :)
Can I use GoPro max on the telessin V2 stick?
Yes you can
Great comparison. Could you create a video after they fix the latest version of the Insta360 Android app that keeps crashing for a lot of people?
I’m on iPhone sorry
I recently got my mitts on one of the Gen 2 telesin sticks for my Insta360 One X2 , and I could barely get it open and when I did I discovered that the O rings that hold it closed were now broken. That being said , I found the quality good for the money . I do wish that it were infinitely variable in length instead of the all or nothing approach of the design but stretch is what we bought it for right. I may purchase the Insta 360 branded stick and sell the Telesin. I would like to see someone post a video about the long term integrity of the Insta 360 after tons of use and see if your concerns about the loosing of friction and wobble come to pass.
Thanks for the comment - yes the Telesin is definitely the best value for money. Yes I agree long term integrity is questionable for both sticks.
Thank you! My Insta 360 failed very quickly so even short term inegrity of these sticks might be in question while my original selfie stick still going strong.. I'm getting the Telesin next and hope it last longer than the Insta one did!
@@crosscountryminiadventures I got the newest Insta 360 stick and it's a loose , saggy , wobbly mess . The Telesin is still better but shorter and not infinitely variable. A stick that actually locks , or at least tightens like the Telesin is better than one that just pulls out and hopes to be tight.
@@crosscountryminiadventures I have he Telesin. and then got the new yellow banded Insta 360 stick and boy I wish I hadn't. It's a nicely made POS that is loose, saggy , and wobbly . save your money. I probably should have purchased the 270 Pro model with the twist locks, or even a good painter pole.
Great review Rich! I bought the New telesin 3m stick, but I am not sure if it works in water. If it won't ruin the sticks could you compare their water abilities?
Hi Magnus I don’t think any of them should be fully immersed as it would damage the mechanism - you wouldn’t be able to get all the water out easily. The telesin would be easier to dry as you can take the base off by unscrewing it.
@@EatSleep360 All right then. Thank you again for the help 😆
I got used to the weird finger-killing mechanism with the Telesin ^^ so I guess I can wait for a discount.
One question though: in which situations do you find the micro adjustments useful, you can do with the insta360 stick?
Mainly when on a tripod so I can adjust to the exact height I want easily - thanks for watching
wow, defo worth gettin the insta one but the price 😱
Hallo Richard very good demonstration this Selfie Stick suitable for gopro max please meny thanks 🇬🇧
Yes suitable for Max
I have the Telesin 9 ft stick since I bought my X3 this summer. The Telesin seemed to be a good deal it started to fall apart. This past weekend, on a trip to Puerto Rico, it started come apart badly and it fell apart just before flying home. I hate to pat the extra for the Insta360 extended stick but I can't do without one. The Telesin irritated me as it wasn't made to extend to custom lengths and pinched the skin on hands many times. I am ordering an Insta360 stick tonight!
There is a newer telesin stick which does extend to any length but unfortunately it only has a GoPro finger mount. The insta one is the best.
Great video on the new 360 stick! Can you compare this to the 270pro using the GoPro Max?
I haven’t got the 270pro unfortunately
I have the backpack 270 pro. It's hard to get because it sells out so quickly. I think the 270 Pro is the best out there but you pay a premium price for it.
@@thomza that’s great to know 🙌🏽 much appreciated
The issue with the #270Pro (which is far more reliable than my Telesin 2.7m updated version, which broke on just the third use) is that its GoPro mount is fixed. You can’t remove it at all.
To use it with my Inst360 One X2 requires me to be very aware of the orientation of the camera with respect to both the 1/4”-20 to GoPro adapter you have to use as well as any accidental bending at the GoPro mount itself from hard knocks.
The ideal long Insta360 One X2 selfie stick would be if #270Pro issued the Backpack S with a 1/4”-20 stud rather than the GoPro mount. We can only hope!
Still checking for availability of the 360
Thank you very much for this comparative test between these 2 Selfie sticks of 3m ... a little disappointed to see that even the Carbon version of Insta360 manages to flex with an Insta360 One X2 at the end of the pole ... Too bad considering the price. ..
Yes I fully extended and could notice a big chunk of the stick near my hand showing up in the shot w the insta version
Holy crap, over 100? I though the insta360 stick would have been the cheaper of the two. I wonder if the price will come down in time, like it is expensive just because it is new and it is going to sell more right now.
I don’t think it will come down - they kept their version one at 59.99 even though telesin had an identical stick for half the money - the same is happening again here
very nice review sir
Thanks team 👋🇮🇹🇬🇧
If you have new version i want to buy i already order old version but i want to but the new version too
was the old 3 metersselfie , not good ? ... i have been using mine for 2 year and it good . I love it
The new one is just an updated design, less bend, shorter when closed and easier to adjust 👍🏼
I’ve had both. While the insta 360 friction is very easy opening and closing I find it more flimsy than telesin and can see a chunk of my pole in my shot near my hand. Probably a foot of pole. I did not see the pole in the shot at all w the telesin
You can rotate the pole which will help hide the bit you see in the stitch line. So make sure the stitch line is facing the bend and not the lens facing the bend.
@@EatSleep360 will let you know the results. Getting Some great shots using a 3 suction mount on the back of the car with the regular selfie stick. Also trying out the motor bike mounts on front and back this weekend.
which one would be better for the gopro max or are they both a no go for the gopro? and how would they compare against the 270 pro backpack? (I don't find a way to order the 270 pro it in Europe tho)
This would work with GoPro Max - I haven’t used the 270 pro so not sure how they compare
If you were to pick one (based on your needs - photography and video), which would it be?
The insta360 stick is the best extended selfie stick if you don’t mind paying the extra so that’s the one I would pick
@@EatSleep360 Thanks for that feedback…I thought so too. Just hoping they finally have it in stock sometime this century 😂
Apparently aliexpress have them in stock
thank you for your great review , i have one questions.. is there any difference between telesin 2.7 and telesin 3 m ? or only length ?
The version one 2.7 is totally different so make sure you get version 2 which is the better design
@@EatSleep360 thank you for your prompt reply, is it means that version 2 have 3 m only or version 2 have both lengths?
Do the Telesin bends on Insta360 One R when fully extend? Good review!
You can see the bend demoed in this video ruclips.net/video/JflgS1fWrqk/видео.html
@@EatSleep360 thank you! Just ordered mine 😁😁😁
Hi from Michigan, USA • will this selfie stick work with the GoPro Max with an adapter to mount the GoPro Max? • Cheers from the Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂
Yes it will with a 1/4” adaptor- it will work better at longer lengths. At shorter lengths the stitching of the handle might not be that good with the max.
Whats the snapping point of the Insta360 3m pole? Could you for instance add another insta360 1.2m pole to the end and make a 4.2m pole with a one x2 and hold horizontal?
I haven’t tried it but I think the weakest point would be the 1/4” thread. If you want to risk it Maybe use some gaffer tape around where the two poles join.
Is it possible to simply get the new insta 360 plus a bushman counterweight and the tripod base to replace a complete bushman v2 ? And use the stick as a monopod and when removed long stick?
Yes this is possible but you shouldn’t use it higher than head height on a tripod as there would be more leverage and more pressure on the 1/4” thread
@@EatSleep360 Im on a budget and the tripod base plus the counterweight is around 80 dlls plus another 45 for the telesin comes to around 130 max . My idea is to use the tripod only for head level height no more than 6ft and when removed from base use the longstick for those cool shots. Otherwise it would cost me over 175 just for bushman v2 alone plus another 45 for longstick. I really don’t like the twist on the monopod for the bushman stick i prefer the friction pull on the other sticks . Would you say that is a good way to save money and still achieve what im planning
Hi Rich... Can i also attach my mobile phone to it (using the special piece of course) ? Thanks
Yes I can’t see why not - just make sure you use a safety cord or elastic to hold your phone in the mount
@@EatSleep360 Cheers mate! Take care
Hi great review 👍
I am not sure which one to purchase, with the insta 360 stick i have seen lots say you can see the handle in shot, at what lenth if at all does it become invisible.
Also which tripo would you recommend to use for human hight for self videos.
Link if possible cheers 🍻
If you have a keen eye you can see the handle sometimes in your hand - the bend can be eliminated by rotating the stick so that it’s hidden in the stitchline. The best360 tripod is super wide and robust and it’s best used with the counter weights best360.shop?aff=3
I am still waiting for information as to where in the UK can this Insta360 be bought - any news?
You have to buy it direct from insta or Ali express at the moment - maybe it will be on Amazon at some point but not yet
so with the new extended stick there is no locking? is just held by friction? there is no twist to lock? i have the telesin stick nad its going back.
Yes just friction, no lock.
The Telesin v2 extended selfie stick has lots of bad reviews on Amazon. Many people are reporting that this pole is flimsy. The plastic insert at the tip of the pole is only secured by friction and eventually it loosens up. Then it starts to free spin. A free spinning 360 camera is no good as you want to align the stitching plane with the bend of the stick to make it invisible. You have to use gaffer's tape to get it to stay steady.
Are you saying that based on the reviews or from owning it?
How to get this one im from India anyone help me
my insta360 selfie stick 120cm came apart after 4 months of non rigorous use. event useage and not sport usage. some white plastic tabbing in the internals came apart
That’s annoying- thanks for commenting
hello, is it possible to use this stich with go pro max ?(invisible stick ) thx
Yes this will work with GoPro Max
Who has some good ideas on how to mount the 3m selfie sticks on a tripod or fence. The 1/4 20 thread would break right?
There would be too much leverage on the thread and it would break. You need to add a brace to it, so another fixing point that holds onto the selfie stick and attaches to the ground - a ground spike with a couple of super clamps or mini arms with another selfie stick - or something like that. For mounting onto a fence you could get some curved metal pipe brackets and screw it across the lower section of the stick in two places.
@@EatSleep360 i.imgur.com/Baxd2en.png
No ideas on how to mount a selfiestick vertically directly to the 3/8" thread on a tripod mounting plate?
The center column is a specific Manfrotto 6-sized (hex) design. I could remove the mounting plate on the center column and clamp the extended selfie stick to it using 2 clamps like in the image but this isn't the nicest solution.
I think the best solution is a of flagpole mount!!
What about the telesin v2, vs the 270pro backpack s?
I haven’t used the 270pro sorry
So Nice... 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Has anyone put this on their weighted bushman legs? I know the base is thicker so just wondering how it would fit. I, of course, wouldn't use it fully extended but if it was stable at eye level one wouldn't have to carry around 2 monopods.
Yes this works at eye level on the bushman tripod
@@EatSleep360 thanks, I figured it would but still like to ask. Now I just have to wait until they get some in.
Cheers
Can I attach two together? 3m (10ft) is not enough. Need double that
You could but you’d need to brace it where it joins, there would be a lot of pressure on the screw thread- might be too dangerous so You should do a lot of tests beforehand.
can someone tell how to fix the black blopp at the hand, he explains at 1:40 but cant find the explanation..
There will always be a small blob in your hand as the stick is quite thick. You can reduce the bend appearing in shot by rotating the stick so both lenses are facing left and right, this will hide the bend in the stitch-line.
So on the shortest setting u can see the stick still ?
Yes but you can get around it by holding it slightly higher up the stick
Can the insta360 3m stick support the weight of 1 inch 360 edition? Will it collapse on its own while standing vertically?
It can take the weight but it isn't recommended for big movements because of the bend. I have put it out my sunroof vertically and it was fine.
@@EatSleep360 thanks for the reply. I have the 115cm stick and the top 2 sections will creep and slowly collapse if i put the 1 inch 360 (together with hummingbird quick release) on it while standing vertically :( Hope the 3m stick really works well as it is quite a big sum to spend on a stick..
Can't find the new insta 360 3meter anywhere. Help!
Maybe aliexpress?
Doe it have a remote for iPhone to control the phone?
No it doesn’t have a remote
Could we use these 2 sticks underwater ? Are they salt water tested ? Thanks
The only stick that’s salt water tested is the nu grip - check out the review on my channel
will this extended stick fit the bullet handle?
It will but it will be too much pressure on the thread, I wouldn’t risk it. You can do a bullet time with this stick without the handle - just rotate it 320 degrees and it gives you enough of a rotation for a bullet time
Does the Insta360 long stick float?
Not as far as I know
Do you know if this stick floats or is waterproof?
No it’s not waterproof and not designed to float - water will ruin the mechanism
Have they discontinued the Insta one. Can't find it anywhere.
I don’t think so, just low stick levels - try aliexpress
@@EatSleep360 I bought the Telesin instead. Nice bit of kit.
The Insta360 Extended Stick New Version looks promising, even at that super high price. However, you cannot buy it now anywhere. Not Amazon, not B&H, none of the regular store sites. It is out of stock at Insta360 website.
Try aliexpress maybe
@@EatSleep360 Good thought but Aug 30 delivery unless you chuck out another $30. I would think insta360 would have them in by that time.
Telesin it is then, if that breaks not a huge amount to buy another. I can manage to mess around on use if ut means it's likely to last longer, can soon get used to it.
There is a newer Telesin version as well now which is an even better design
@EatSleep360 I see on Amazon is that the 2.7 metre verson?
Just arrived, doesn't seem to be any feel to it as to when it's opening ir shutting, playing with it my fingers have been nipped a few times! not a fan so far. 🤷
So unfair shaking the insta360 stick like life depends on it and softly shaking the teleskin😂😂😂
Friggin long stick makes the annoying click sound when you turn it up and down...how to resolve this issue ?
This is that slight movement I mention in the video - no way to solve it unfortunately without taping the joins but that would be a pain
@@EatSleep360 crap stick...thank you for replying
Telesin has bad reviews on the markets, Amazon reviews complaining about that after severlal weeks is bottom thread broken.
That bounce in the stick does affect your video. Its too much for the gyroscope and stabilization to overcome.
It depends on the shot and how fast you move it as well
I am not happy with the Insta 360 one, it failed and came apart in 2 pieces in only its 2nd use! The 120cm scope completely came out of the rest of the unit! I can hear rattling so whatever was locking it in place fell into the hole. Very disappointed with its quality, so avoid.
That’s good feedback thanks but that’s really bad for you, I hope insta replaced it. This always worries me about the longer sticks but I’ve been lucky so far.
@@EatSleep360 Thank you! Trying to go through the refund process since I owned it less than a year! Hopefully they will honor it!
Insta stick isnt invisible in horizontal positoin