DEALING 1000+ DAMAGE WITH ONE ENERGY! - Backpack Hero
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2022
- Backpack Hero Part 6 - the ultimate cleaver build vs endless mode. What started as humble chip damage last episode grows and grows and never stops growing. I break four figures of damage in one shot, but is it too late?
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Glad I got this run in before the King and Queen cleaver nerf. Those are the only cleavers that really contributed to this extreme run. Regular and golden cleavers are good but a joke by comparison.
cool
its still doable with the slime shield relic and a small 1 space shield.
What was the nerf?
love your vids keep it up
@@Milenos In fact, its even more broken now if you get the right stuff. I did one with that legendary small golden shield that used other shields around it, and then used 4 shields around that which all chained together to use the weapons around those to combo into my cleaver set up. Get a reforge haste on your main shield, and have the clock boss weapon relic for scaling, and you can go pretty long.
By endgame, I was able to get like 150-200 shield PER ENERGY, and my damage started at like 300 per energy and quickly grew by like 50 every energy used.
Also, a mandatory relic for these builds is the candle that gets rid of spike build up each hit. Super important to beat bosses like the King.
The only thing I was really missing to go super unbeatable was a rage reforge on my starter cleaver which got used 5 times per energy. It wouldve scaled my damage to the moon and I wouldve been basically unbeatable.
I actually was basically already unbeatable, but I did the run over the course of a a few days and eventually my save got corrupted so it was sad.
Fun tip: If you look at the top left of an item, it shows how much space it takes up. As at least for Tusk, you thought it took three slots but it actually only took 2
It also locks ITSELF for 2 combats, not the weapons.
@@ScarletFlames1 Nope, it locks the weapons only
@@ScarletFlames1 definitly locks the weapons
32:58 Is it not more beneficial to replace the central gemstone with the kind cleaver instead of the bottom one so it activates all of the queen cleavers?
It is and he misplayed bad there
@@butwhatif2489 Each cleaver activates once using theri ability, so it'd make the cleaver he wants to hit three times still be hit three times but addsn an extra activitation to the other three in the diamond AND still activates itself once.
total misplay
- stoat
@@ACEYGAMES Hmm, I guess he thought the ruby was better?
That was definitely a big mistake, because that would get him way more cleaver activations, unless they cancel each other out in a weird way. Not that it would've helped, seeing how the run ended.
39:00 It's possible to kill this boss on Floor 18 with the "Cleansing Flame" Relic. It takes away -1 Spikes on enemies every time a weapon is used. So this boss never has more than 0-1 spikes at any time, making the fight way more doable. Also, another good tip for very long endless runs is to get items that add haste. Every one haste adds +1 block to your broken ring. So even at a measly 4 haste, your broken ring is doing double the block as normal. It's very possible to block the 45 damage from the boss per turn with the broken ring + haste. The best items for haste are the "Archangel Armor" (+2 haste per turn) and the "Guarding Band" (+1 haste per attacked). You actually had the Guarding Band for a moment in the run and it made me scream when you threw it out! Also additional mana per turn items help a lot, like the "Wizard's Cap" or the "Ancient Tome".
double archangel armor + structure blocks = op as hell.. you gain 3 haste per turn (including the degrading haste at the start) your block increases every turn, much faster than the enemies damage scales.. unfortunately when i had that setup, i swapped my build around like 3 times from a staff, to a bow, to a pick, back to a staff.. if i just got the pick earlier so i could get some gems, i would have been fine.. the final swap back to staff was done out of desperation.. so my damage was lacking and i died to curses from the fire gecko's (the fire damage was negligible, i was ending turns with having another 150 shield even after the fire ticked on them) because i had to pass on them.. i was healing the damage back reasonably well enough at first, but by the end of the run i was taking 50 damage to pass a curse while only dealing about 700 damage and healing like 16, so i was just overwhelmed.. got some pics if you care to see lol
imagine hearing a mouse with an army of cleavers, tearing through the dungeon like knife cutting through butter
you get ready to face them and they just die with their own first strike
A single cleaver with a dozen other cleavers attached to it
trapper from inscryption but he used clevers instead of knives
I wish he realized the king cleaver was better in the middle of the queen cleavers. Not only would it activate the right queen 3 times per use (once from king, twice from the other queens) but I could have made a joke about the king and his harem.
Ik, going up against King was a total loss anyways since he didn't have candle, but it's the KING, surrounded by his harem of QUEENS, with his GOLDEN TREASURE stashed behind him, his palace decorated by JUWELS.
This is why I always read youtube comments.
What does candle do?
@@joekyu2517 it makes you win
@@joekyu2517 Candle give -1 spike and -1 regen to enemies when you attack them. So the King would only get 1 spike each attack that get removed immediately after. Basically, a mandatory item for a good cleaver build, otherwise the first enemy that give itself spikes when attacked will destroy you.
I have no idea why he didn't do that
I had a run where I got to floor 23 with just shields and spikes. No weapons allowed would be an interesting challenge for a run.
There is snakes just defends and gives poison to you so i think its not possible, everytime you see snake its just run ender
@@darknieve9926 you can just.. not take fights with snakes in them?
@@dailyyy5979 some fights are mandatory, though you could just get lucky
@@dailyyy5979 sometimes they block the stairs tho
Especially since there's an item dedicated to that kind of build specifically.
Glad to see a trend is starting where Tyler has a good run in roguelites that ends in self-destruction due to no fault of his own lmao
I’m surprised by how many people are criticizing how he played this, considering that literally nothing he could have done would have gotten him past the king.
Min/max gaming culture: the numbers matter.
Also, even if you lose no matter what you do there is still place for better play. You test your abilities to play, not just an ability to finish the game
@@a_wild_Kirillian you always have to be careful not to optimize the fun out of the game though, I can’t imagine how frustrated I would get if all I thought about were my mistakes and where I could’ve made a slight improvement
@@Lucian4694 personally I find it more fun that way, going "oh I could've played that better"
also because it doesn't matter in the current case doesn't mean it wasn't a better play.
Yeah without the candle relic he will die to any stacking spike enemy. Its why that relic is mandatory
@No why not? i personally see no issue with long comments, since it can be hard to summarize long thoughts into a short youtube comment sometimes. a tl;dr can be nice but it presents the same problem of trying to compact ideas that may not be easily summarized.
Watching him phase out literal relics like ore instead of the block ring he rarely uses, and would be useless if used anyways (since enemies scale so fast that he'd likely die by the time he needs to use it anyways, or lock himself into dying the very next turn) was pretty painful....
Not that it mattered I suppose :P
ik, it hurts
Not that the block ring was any good, but ore was pretty bad if you did the math. Ore only added about 20 damage per energy when removed, and it was only getting worse.
I feel as though if you had placed the King Cleaver where the middle Ruby was, you could theoretically have had all three Queen Cleavers trigger, which then triggers *_their_* diagonal effects with multiple individual procs, giving you more rage / healing / what-have-you at the cost of a slight damage nerf since the Ruby no longer buffs as many things.
9:49 "oh no, such scary enemies, whatever shall i do?"
*casually uses ring of doom 962 times*
All I have to say is if I were a level 13 enemy and find a backpack holding mouse and we fight and all he does is reach in hold up his ring around 20 times and then reaches for about 10 cleavers I would evaporate just gone just nothing
I had a run in an early update where I used Matthew (Press M at before starting a run for matthew!) give me a potion that gave me a big curse. I won with that curse pre-enemy buff.
Matthew gives you a buff to the start of your run from items to more HP.
Wouldn't it have been better to put the king cleaver two spaces higher so it's adjacent to 3 queen cleavers? That way your super buffed queen cleaver would hit 4 times. I think this build could've won if you found the candle boss relic that reduces spikes and rage on hit for all your weps, but maybe he's just too tanky to win in time.
It wouldn't hit four times in that spot, it would still hit three times.
@@Aliensrock but other cleavers would get used more times than you would normally right. Normally the top queen cleaver gets used once by the right queen. But if you put king in middle it becomes twice. Same with the bottom queen. The right queen would still get used 3 times. You also get additional use of left gold cleaver and the king cleaver itself.
@@prateekkarn9277 the place he chose still activates the bottom queen's cleaver, but also the golden cleaver on the right, at the cost of one less attack from the middle queen's cleaver. Combined with the king's cleaver itself, that's net two extra ring of doom atacks (which are the only thing that really matter). The spot you're suggesting would also adds two extra ring of doom atacks, one from the bottom queen's cleaver and one from the king's cleaver itself. The difference in damage is really minimal, the only way the spot in the middle could have been significantly better is rage.
@@michaelvey42 also idk how much moving the one of the chef hats to the middle top column would increase the damage. But if you say minimal, I feel blind to not see it. Ah well
If you have this setup:
Q1
K Q2
Q3
That's going to trigger:
K 1 time
Q1 4 times
Q2 7 times
Q3 4 times
1. King triggers all three cleavers.
2. Q1 triggers Q2. Q2 triggers Q1 and Q3. Q3 triggers Q2.
- Q1 twice
- Q2 twice
- Q3 once
3. Q2 triggers Q1 and 3. Q1 and Q3 trigger Q2.
- Q1 once
- Q2 twice
- Q3 once
4. Q3 triggers Q2. Q2 triggers Q1 and Q3. Q1 triggers Q2.
- Q1 once
- Q2 twice
- Q3 twice
That double-back is part of why cleavers hit so damn much (Especially once you get duct-tape). Tyler just didn't understand that they CAN double back to the origin. It's just that the original cannot then re-trigger.
IE:
K1 K2
K1 triggers K2
K2 triggers K1
That's 3 hits (click K1, trigger K2, trigger K1)
13:57 the binary that wall creature says is "war ahead"
"I need that... I got it" 1:08
words that never come out of my mouth --
The Backpack Hero Kickstarter ends soon btw everyone make sure you check it out :D
At 33:00 Wouldn't King Cleaver have been best in the middle of all the Queen cleaners? It would trigger every Queen Clever which makes the Queens activated twice each (First by King and then by rightmost Queen)
Whereas this setup only triggers one Queen twice or am I mistaken?
Edit: Watched end, oof endless King is cracked, wouldn't have mattered
You are correct, the right queen cleaver would even still go off 3 times, he shouldve also put a chefs hat in the middle row of cleavers
That was very impressive! That build did incredible considering how hard the game scaled.
13:36
They said: “May you achieve what seemed impossible”.
Well.
Done *that*.
Absolutely nuts. All hail the clever strats
That was awesome, way to go Tyler!🤩
Haha.
14:01 - TWO vampires! Ah ah ah! [/The Count]
So excited for this!
WOW! What a crazy ending. Yeah, was a great run GGs.
it's so funny watching him spend so long powering up each time, going super saiyan
Was waiting for your post! I love your videos!
Imagine how overpowered you would be if there was no level up cap and you could just keep increasing your backpack size
You absolutely need the candle relic when going a multi hit build
I keep getting distracted playing this game then I realise "oh no I'm not early to the new Aliensrock video!"
As I say *literally* every night, keep up the amazing videos!!!
Binary at 14:02 says "war ahead", in case anyone was curious.
3:21 the slime looking at Tyler explaining his cleaver build before dying: ಠ_ಠ
Cleavers are great with shield bot cutting energy costs in half, rage in general, and stopwatch thingy, and belt of knives.
Me when I get op cleaver run *dies to any amount of spikes*
Aliensrock when he gets op cleaver run: *spikes cease to exist*
staying up till 12 for this again❤😂
Im assuming eastern NA (Canada and US)
@@casheverett6300 yup
sick run! that was the Funniest way to go out! dont let them kill you because you get it done first xD
I died to the same thing you did, I had a rage, 1 mana cost wand that started the turn doing 37 damage, with 5 magic refilling herbs and the poison book that refills a little mana along with around 40 mana in mana stones. I also had 3 medusa helmets and 3 dodge potions, incase I didn't one turn, and I was just cruising because I had so much extra damage in my consumables, and I was one turning everything, then I died to the spikes of doom. Any build that is not big one hit damage dies to that boss because if the health scaling.
Fun Fact: The kings ability to gain spikes/rage is a status effect and thus can be removed by cleansing bomb
13:30 Fancy S at top of map in the background
When you got the King Cleaver, why not put it in between the Queen cleavers?
There's a candle relic that gives all weapons minus spikes on hit, and a purple relic that gives weapons +1 damage when used. Those 2 combined with a perfect build could get you to like floor 30.
A mouse wood + arrow build )with extra things to give bonus energy) is the best way to beat the floor 18 King as far as I know. Since arrows are projectiles, you don't get hit by his spikes. I got there with such a build, with the 4 tall bow that gives +1 dodge whenever you kill an enemy, and he just took too long to summon a minion that he killed me. I needed more max HP (~75 or so max HP I needed) to be able to get by.
Just got into this game, I love it, thanks for showing it to me
Cool run
Love the videos Tyler
I love backpack hero so much I replaced my family with the mouse
Loved watching this run. but I couldn't help being pissed off by how long he kept the manastone bow. Thats 3 mana for 3 inventory slots. Which is so bad when u have unlocked 2/2 or 3/3 mana stones. I guess 3 > 0 though and he wasn't having too many inventory woes.
Stop letting pointless stuff like that piss you off or please stop commenting about it. This nitpicky behavior is contagious, and I will not hesitate to block people that can't control themselves.
"I need that!... I got it!!! " The universe wills it so!
So, is the king just literally unbeatable with cleaver then? I can't see any setup that doesn't self terminate due to spikes. Even if all the gems were replaced with hearts to get as much healing as possible, spikes still scales up too fast to do anything.
Cleansing Flame is the relic which prevents this. -1 spikes and -1 regen with every attack. If you have a heartstone, vampire stone, or some other kind of healing, then your cleaver build will probably go well beyond floor 2.
There's also Shield Spirit; if you have a semi-high defense build (i.e. Archangel Armor + Bricks, Hercule Pavise + many shields, etc.) and pair it with a Mirror Shield, you should be able to remove the King's spikes. That being said, his regen will still be a problem, though you can most likely out-DPS him if you have a scaling cleaver build (i.e. Stopwatch, Rage stacking, etc.)
Hope this helps!
all you need is the candle relic which makes all your weapons give the enemy -1 spikes, you still take 1 damage per attack but it makes it much more manageable with healing
I see, didn't realize there was such a relic.
Kinda annoying that it's essentially a "do you have this *one* item?" check, but at least there is a way.
Spikes are a hard counter to multihit builds in the same manner as Dodge is a hard counter to single hit builds. Imo the base game seems fairly balanced with how both dodge and spikes are spread throughout it.... and then it scales like BTD6 freeplay, where the game tries to make an insurmountable hard wall with em
It’s doable with a really solid block engine, like the new Hercule Pavise.
This game really is just a dopamine factory in rogue-like clothing
Honestly after a certain point the bonus damage from having a ruby in the middle is overshadowed by the other buffs you had, and so you could have put your heartstone in the middle there.
I probably would have done that a little before getting the gemstone relic.
Your daily reminder that diamonds are conductive
11:55 ... man , i know it is cheese, but the saving grace for the build is cleansing flame relic , 1 space that works on every weapon, and for each weapon attack it removes 1 SPIKES and 1 regen , that is what you need to defeat the spike enemy. I would have done the fight reset (F5 the page) "exploit" for this one instance, because the spike enemy is the doom for this build. (and it would not have taken long, because you one turn kill the boss)
Just earlier today, I managed to make a Mage build that dealt over 1k damage per turn. It required using 4 energy on a necronomicon though
5:50 you can right click to sleect "use max times"
Hey Tylar, for 38:20, you could use an archer build which doesn't get affected by the spikes, which is also a pretty good strat. However it did recently got nerfed, so you might not get as far in endless mode, but you do get a chance to beat the floor 18 boss.
Poggers video, btw its important to check which buffs are multiplied and which arent. Like rage is just adding dmg on top while base dmg increases like gems get multiplied by the +% buffs
its goddam 5 am for me thank god it came out
You should check out this rougelike called Noita if you’re getting back into rougelikes. Super fun, easily one of my top games of all time. Filled to the brim with secrets.
that king was brutal
If you can do a similar build that emphasizes healing over damage, you might be able to crack that boss. You'll need defense to survive burst damage in order to heal though.
The only way to beat it with cleaver is candle, you can’t heal enough
38:00 there is a candle relic that removes spikes with each wepon hit, that would've been handy but unlucky I guess
Fuck yeah, I was waiting for this
Was great
imagine being an enemy and the last thing you see is a rat with a massive backpack chucking 15 cleavers at you
Now that's difficulty of "I don't know if it's doable at all" I hoped for!
This game has a lot in common with luck be a landlord in some ways
I'd like to say the rotating singular items has a use.
I believe its applicable to every item but I know for a fact it works with gems and arrows.
But if an item has the description of "applies x to items below it" for example,
You can rotate them to turn it into "applies x to items to the left of it.
It's beyond useful and nobody tells you
read the curses to the end. You can just use them most times if you kill the enemy anyway
That was a nice run, I was hoping you find jack cleaver too! You can do absolute magical things with them if you can get two kings, two queens and one jack 🤤🤣🤣👌👍
looks like i didnt have to wait to long for this dumb but op strat
If you can get your hands on mouse wood plus the small arrows you can get I think three, maybe 4 arrows per shot which builds up to some pretty insane damage really quickly. You will need a 4 slot bow.
“I don’t know if I kill with this meal”
Ah yes king the clever ender
Hey pro tip for now before it’s patched, when you’re in the wheel spin room you don’t actually have to take what you get, you can just click the map and leave if you say get a curse or item you don’t want
i had a feeling it would end like that. i suffered that type of loss before.
The king said to the mouse in a deep tone, “So you have come to this far, passing every level, every minion I send out and even my trustworthy servants and my leaders of each floors you have cleanse them off in the battlefield with a clean cut of your cooking mastery, and now it has come to this to challenge your destructive skill against my overwhelming power.” “If you succeed, you will be worthy to be the lord of the dungeon and become the new king.” “However, many people had never come this far, because I am the deception of all who have challenged me, so show me your potential young mouse”. The mouse said in an intimidating tone.” I cannot try to kill you without cutting your soul with my vengeful knife without getting closer”. The king laughed and said “Hehe, then come closer than you wish”.
this is why you need to have the sacred flame relic
in amazing run with the brutal spear and stacking hatchets. i was able to kill everything in one turn upto infernal 2-3 area and i messed up and killed my self on the mirror
remeber to always check if an enemy has cowardly!
Can we get a Tyler q&a. That would actually be dope.
13:57 The event translates to "war/ahead"
Man and I thought the pickaxe is good, I’ll definitely have to try out the cleavers next time I play
Im fairly certain they got nerfed
They did
@@nolmc Doesnt matter, just use the shield relic and start your combo with a shield instead. have it ONLY touch your starter cleaver so that your damage on the rest of your combo doesnt get neutered.
Its a little harder to get going because you NEED the shield relic, but its still pretty damn good.
_barely taps King_ "A-" _dies_
THE STANLEY PARABLE ULTRA DELUXE
Isn't the staff relic only acting as conductive and wasting 2 spots which could be filled with mana stones, since the relic needs to be adjacent to weapons for the buff?
It also buffs by a percentage, which makes each other manastone more valuable by default.
It doesn't need to be adjacent, only connected like how mana is connected. That means all 3 cleavers next to the ring was buffed by it.
Not king, though it didn't matter in the end.
Not only the nerf but they show up so much less I've seen 1 King and 1 jack cleaver but no queen cleaver at all.
I did make it to floor 14 with a weapon only build with a bunch of hatchet and a club.
Yep got like 3 in a run before the update.
U got to try if u ever get both the coral and the shield that used adjacent shields I was getting up to 400 to 500 spikes and 200 defence . But I messed up and died due to status effects
The binary text at 15:37 says “war”
23:47 "dude deals 2500 damage" me: Wait I thought that was health
you should try a glitch run to see how far you can get (there is a glitch that lets you stack items using heavy/floating items) its super fun doing thousands of damage on floor 25+
The bow was for some reason so infuriating for me xD i mean, it's still just three basic manastones for you. Good you aknowlaged it but I still was irritated for some reason xD
And you propably should've put kings cleaver in between three queen cleavers, you would still use rage queen cleaver same amount as before king cleaver but the rest would be better.
the second king is killable. Bows are the only way I've seen it done because bows ignore spikes and if you get mouse wood and stack a ton of energy from foods and berserkers rings you can one turn kill him. Otherwise I don't think it's possible.
Wait a moment. The character holding the bag is a rat... Because it's a pack rat. Holy shit, my eyes have been opened.
Wouldn’t moving the thing that regens mana crystals one to the right and move the 3/3 mana crystal that was above it down be better because then every round after the first you’d get +6 more demon ring uses?
It looks like a StS Shield Slam build is the way to really go endless in this game… assuming there’s something like it in the game. XD
I’m pretty sure moving the ring of doom to the center and surrounding its three open sides with the queen and king cleavers would have gotten you even more damage.
I was scared about the binary event when I first found it because I translated it and it said "war"
I got to floor 18 once, that boss is no joke!
It was with a bow build AND I had the candle relic but it was not enough, he just beat me to death 'cause at 15k he's one thicc bih.