HELLO! For those of you that have seen Grey's video: we are both aware of the similarities but just happened to release similar videos around the same time. For more info there is a link at the top of the description. ALSO, hi! It has been a long 3 months but now that my cancer treatment is (hopefully) over, I have enough energy to get back to making Vsauce3 videos! Incredibly happy to be making again and so happy to have you here watching! You're pretty darn awesome.
+Cameron Heyward he'd porbably not exsist due to his illogicall consistency, wood that lives with a conscience? no matter if or if not lie this in itself is illogical.
Best kind of explanations are the ones resulting in more questions. If something is 'definite' there's no problems to solve, thus there's nothing to evolve to. For example. If I say that "rock is a rock and it consists of rock" and leave it to that. If everyone is happy with the answer and do not ask any more questions, the potential of a rock remains unsolved.
+Noah Lawrence CGPGrey coincidentally uploaded a video covering essentially what was described in this video. A day before this one. This can often put people uploading these videos as they are often then accused of "copying".
+Noah Lawrence CGP grey, just before Jake planned on uploading this, posted a video speaking About the same topic. This was coincidental, and GGP felt horrible about it. (it happened to himself previously). He made a video urging Jake to upload the video. Both fanbases wholeheartedly agreed.
4:40 This is the exact moment that Michael starts to deep dive into insanity. He thought that teleportation doesn’t exist in his entire life, and now that he knows that it exist, along with his privacy being completely shattered, he slowly starts to get mental.
"THIS SENTENCE IS FALSE don't think about it don't think about it don't think about it don't think about it don't think about it Uh, true. I'll go true. That was easy. I'll be honest, I might've read that one before."
Okay. So the first sentence states that the second sentence is true, and the second sentence states that the first sentence is false. So if the first sentence says that the second sentence is true, but is proved false, that means the second sentence is true, meaning the first sentence is false and the second sentence is true.
If replicated to the quantum level , it would still count as the original apartment.If you create quantum replicas if the objects in your apartment , they would logically exhibit the exact same features (at least from any measurable perspective) as the original objects. The original apartment and the quantum copy of your apartment would be analogous to a entangled pair of particles , where the copy is the original , but the original is also the copy.... Unless i am wrong of course...
I'm so happy you decided to upload this regardless of other channels posting something similar. Jake.... you're an amazing guy with a train of thought in which can conquer the world. amazing video.
+Christina Goodrow Both this and The CGP Grey video came out extremely close together. Like within one day of each other. Both of these videos very clearly took likely a couple weeks of research, production, editing, after-effects etc. Them coming out so close together is almost certainly a coincidence. Confirmed: www.cgpgrey.com/blog/letter-to-jake-on-the-agonies-of-parallel-creation
This isn't a paradox but cool to think about If you were to tell a story about everything you did today down to every detail would go on forever Why? Because you would tell about your day and eventual get to the part about you telling a story and then repeat it again and again
In Neil Gaiman's sandman, there's a book that contains the ENTIRE story of the universe, describing everything that happens in it from its creation to its very end. However, no one is allowed to consult it to see the future, because then the book would become part of its own story. It would have to describe what it is describing, and so on and so forth.
Assuming an infinite time-span, sure, it's a nice thought about recursion, but the day ends, and as the day does, so do the daily events, making the story not infinite, just (potentially, depending on how fast you recount the story, and the daytime at which you started) very meta.
not really its just impossible cuz ur telling things that happened today. at 23:59:59 you have to stop writing and since you cant write about future, your story about "yesterday" was almost complete, but unfinished its not a paradox
There is a logical answer for every paradox. But if there is a logical answer for every paradox, then there is no such thing as a paradox. But if this itself is a paradox, then there isn't a logical answer for every paradox, making this a paradox.
MrFluffy But there isn't an answer to the idea that there is an answer to every paradox. Or is there? Because if there isn't an answer, then that is a paradox, but then that is the answer meaning that there isn't such thing as a paradox. But then that would be a paradox ...
Oryon I clearly understand paradoxes better than you if you believe that the first statement of a paradox has to be true. Paradoxes are never true to begin with. Matter a fact there is no such thing as a true paradox. Every paradox either starts with a make-believe scenario or a non-factually based assumption. If you truly believe that, you'd better google some paradoxes ...
bleh mehm CGP Grey made a similar video two days ago. Which made Jake unsure whether to post this video, which is his great comeback. Lots of drama, but in the end everything went along smoothly.
all of those paradoxes are basically crafted. they only exist within the framework of our symbol languages, but in fundamental reality, there are no symbols - no labeling, and since those paradoxes only arise when trying to label things, they are solely our creations. so in other words, coming up with those paradoxes is basically coming up with paradoxes for the sake of coming up with paradoxes... which I'd consider an endeavor with very little merit, but I guess we all have some strange hobbies, so no judging. ;)
+Holger Kelz Well, the last one is little different. It's more about a definition of 'me', which is a big philosophical problem. Also, it was mentioned in Star Trek Enterprise, where some people just refused to use teleporter, beliving it would kill them and replace with their clones.
I wouldn't say all of them fall under this category. I believe most are created because someone tries to find absolute truths about concepts that vary, which isn't possible. Some may consider the boat that was disconstructed the same as before, some won't, that a matter of perception and opinion. Although valid, to question what one considers as "the" something is a flawed question in cases such as these. I have to agree with you on the autologocal and heterological part though.
Yeah, nice point. But I think that these kinds of paradoxes do have value because all those 'labels' are to do with how humans connect and interact with the world.
Yes. If there is something blocking the road, obviously the car in front would be "first". However, traffic jams when there are just too many cars on the road are caused by people slowing down. When one car slows down, it usually causes the car behind it to slow down and so on. When enough people have slowed down, traffic "backs up". Whoever the first person to stop is the first in the jam. Only get hets out of it very quickly, while the rest of the drivers behind him are screwed.
XCIIBdub Why? It was quite clear that I didn't mean it was literally ages ago. I was just saying he was already completely fine long before Alex Corsair wrote his comment.
OH HO HO that was VERY sneaky there Vsauce putting that last paradox in at the end ;) When does a person actually become a person? At what point do these little lumps of cells become what we consider a human? But now you don't have the backlash of actually saying it Nice
"When does a person actually become a person? At what point do these little lumps of cells become what we consider a human?" Kinda relating to when jake talks about a when a heap is no longer a heap or when a grain of sand is no longer a grain of sand. Does that help?
Awww GoD bless you !!! I wish you all the best and I truly hope that you had a successful recovery journey . When in early stages as in your case I believe , it's treatable !
I told Theseus’ ship paradox to my grandma years ago and she responded (very quickly) “as long as it has the same name, a ship is it’s name.” It’s really funny bc I think as long as the replaced object retains its identity, whether self identity or one given to it, it is in fact the same thing. So I think a person who is broken down atom by atom and replaced completely is more the same person than someone who has no brain activity or multi personality or any number of things that could cause u to lose your identity
+Best Tastes can't a paradox be philosophical ? you know for as long as science has existed philosophy has accompanied it.. truly the field of logic is half mathematical and half philosophical. so I hope you're not thinking these paradoxes are vague and unscientific, they have strong implications in science. for example the ship of theseus, or what makes the identity of something. if you can't answer to that, how can you assume that two objects are identical ? then, how can you count them ? the very notion of counting things is to admit that they're identical. like 4 bananas is always 4 bananas. but in the real world, if you take 4 bananas and 4 other bananas, they will not be identical. in mathematics the equal sign hides a little secret : "equal" things don't necessarily mean things are identical, but that they can be reduced to identical properties. it's the nature (and extent) of this reduction that the ship of theseus tries to clarify.
The paradox of the heap has me confused in real life. Whenever I get a heap of money, I think each bit I spend doesn't really reduce it so I spend a bit here and a bit there and then a bit and another bit and . . . no more money.
+Chris G It's not really a paradox it's just a vague word. If we come up we a minimum and maximum amount of items or volume to form a heap then it's just a range of amounts. It's like 6 cows are "several", if you add 1 it's still "several", if you add another it's still "several" until eventually you decide to cut the term to an arbitrary amount in which case it is now "many".
+vitorsly Sure, the paradox disappears when we put specific numbers to amounts. Counting with numbers must have originated as a smart way of making one amount distinguishable at a glance from another (or an amount at another time) which otherwise look pretty much the same. One heap looks like another, but 256 is obviously different from 257. Numbers are like a kind of magnifying glass for the present and a telescope for knowing the future. Trouble is I don't always want to know.
Well if u yes to solve a paradox and it made you more confused are u still the same person than b4 watching it or are u no longer u, and maybe u said no to the paradox. LOGIC (I actually don't know what I'm saying)
vernonclassic Yea, probably... So you are just one more of those "people like you" folks, who make smart insults about others and point the finger all day just to feel like they are somebody... To how many people have you typed those exact words today? Your comments are on the level of a third grader, you didn't even touch what I was trying to say, may be you didn't understand it that well...
This was something that came up today in a discussion with a friend(hence why I find myself here; I wanted to see other ideas about the "Ship of Theseus" paradox) and I gave my answer on the subject. My answer was that identity is a title given to a polymorphic collection of things and that collection of things comes with a signature. The signature being details about its composition and location in space and time, and the sub-things that make up the whole thing have their own identities formed by their own compositions and signatures(Call them sub-identities, sub-compositions, and sub-signatures). All of these properties combine to form the identity of the thing in question, such that as any one thing changes a new version is produced. Now while this identity versioning is constantly changing we don't always consider it. For example, an object might be version 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 and then a subtle change creates version 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1 but to us it's just version 1.0 or even just version one. It's not until more significant changes occur, usually, that we begin to acknowledge a change in version; such as version one-point-two. In the case of being disintegrated in one location and reformed in another location perfectly we we have to acknowledge a significant amount of changes occurred in the signatures(again based on not just composition but space and time). Therefore a new version was produced. So to identify something as the original is entirely a matter of personal perspective because in reality we're not...
+Immajeanyus Or a clone of a failure? Which is worse, because then you didn't get a choice in the matter, but are just intensely empathizing with a previous version (or multiple) of yourself that made you a failure. At least you could take solace in the fact that you'll be replaced by another clone tonight, who will feel what you feel now. But you will feel nothing, because you'll be gone.
A heap ceases to be a heap when its parts exist in a single layer, and when you can count them, or at least begin to count them and be confident that you can finish, at a glance.
Ok, so if we started from that point that you just said: A single layer, you can count them, confident you can finish at a glance.... now just add ONE. SINGLE. Grain of sand to that, and it becomes a heap? One single grain of sand would really make that much of a difference? That's where the paradox comes in. You can never get to that defining moment when it transitions to a heap, because that means it's only one grain of sand different... which is barely noticable. =P
It's still not a heap to you, but it might be a heap to the next person.Or you might leave and come back, and re-evaluate your ability to count the grains, and find yourself a little intimidated. That exact point, the point at which anyone takes a fresh look at the sand after ONE. SINGLE. grain of sand has been added and concludes that they probably couldn't count the grains, is the point at which the heap is defined, especially if it's pushed together so that it's no longer in a single layer.
But still, let's say someone is at that point where they don't think they could count it, so they call it heap. If you tell them to close their eyes, and then you remove one single grain of sand, they won't even be able to tell the difference when they look again. They'll still call it a heap. Especially if you don't tell them if you actually took a grain away.
So how is this a paradox just because people can't agree on the number of grains of sand, which we can't count, make up a heap? "Heap" is a very general term, a visual one, one that I would say by definition is something that isn't counted.
You know, I knew I was nerd, but the fact that I have heard of and had the pages for all of these problems/paradoxes bookmarked on my phone since freshman year really pushes the fact home
Yeah. I thought that was strange, but I figured it HAS to be something that was already more seriously revealed in one of their past videos or something. Has to be. I doubt he would tell his fans like that.
psych question, ignoring science for a bit and focusing solely on the mind, what if he was raised that "humans" are actually "sandwhiches"? does that make him a sandwhich? is my red the same red as your red? philosophy!
I find the pinocchio paradox interesting, Imagine if he said "My nose will grow now" if his nose does not grow he is lying so it will grow, but then that will make it truth.... so in turn it should not grow... but again that will make it a lie... so it should grow.
It will grow incrementally, perhaps an inch of instantaneous growth a couple times per second, until eventually it gives up and explodes with the power of the Tsar Bomba.
raise your hand if your not raising your hand *raises* *lowers* *raises* *lowers* *raises* *lowers* *raises* *lowers* *raises* *lowers* *raises* *lowers* *raises* *lowers* *raises* *lowers* *raises* *lowers*
Its not a paradox... If someone isn't raising his hand while reading this question then he raise his hand, after that nothing tells him to put his hand down
+Gas Station Bathroom in Nevada If the brain is where our consciousness (and much more) reside, then yes. But the brain could simply be the processor of our body and nothing more. If you only change the processor (like in a computer) then you still have your operating system and all your memories.
If Pinocchio says "my nose will grow now". Will his nose grow? Or not grow? If it doesn't, that means he's lying and it will grow. But that would mean he was telling the truth, so it wouldn't grow, which will mean he's lying...
+Cheesy Izaak no paradox here, If Pinochhio says 'My nose will grow now' he is lying because normally his nose wouldn't grow. Now after he's told that lie his nose will start to grow.
heterological is like a finger you point on something - the finger can point on many things, but it can´t point on itself, because "it is the pointing".
@Pseudo Lain Wow nice I like that answer. I may have a rebuttal, something about left/right, but like I said I like that answer so let's leave it at that. b(^.^)d
Urban Kitsune But if you use a microscope (and have enough time) you can actually count every single grain in a heap, does that mean a heap does not exist?
Alexis Jasso well then that specific heap is no longer a heap, but the next time you take a handful of sand, that is a heap. A heap just means an amount of something that you don't know the exact quantity of, so considering the next handful of sand you take is not the exact same amount as the one you counted, it's a heap.
The size of a heap is determined by your perception of the world. It's you trying to apply scale to something uncountable (as in it is not practical to count it). It's not about how many grains a heap consists of, it's about how big the sandpile is compared to something else. We are all different and have different perceptions of things. So the very definiton of heap will vary from person to person.
The way you solve the heap paradox is through an agreed upon unit of measurement. Otherwise a heap is relative. What you might think as a heap might not appear as a heap to me. IT is relative to the observer,
The Vsauce video channels are highly underrated. This is what this generation needs! A fun and engaging way to learn new things! Keep up the good work!
+Ben Apsley I feel like Jake is probably not the kind of guy to be particularly bothered by a cancer diagnosis. Just another opportunity for creativity!
paradox can occur when we fail to see a bigger picture. we read your comment with the concept that something can either be true or false. We restrict ourselves to the question. Which one is true?
+Ashley Carruthers The first line says the bottom is true. The bottom line says the top line is false meaning the bottom line is false. Since the bottom line is false it means the first line is true. Now this cycle will go on forever unless someone corrects me and shows me the end. Please if you find a end and can prove it show me it.
Only the three vsauses can get cancer, have a bunch of leg ripped out and then in turn think about 4 logical paradoxes
TheSelfConsciousTurtle Gaming that's what creativity is.. I believe.. Most probably..
Third
I think he dead
He isnt
Moe Lester he posted an update 4 days ago
The light-heartedness with which you said "I have cancer" warmed my heart. Hope you're getting on okay, Jake.
no at least it didn’t give you cancer
Mad lad makes fully edited video with cancer
With special effects that take a lot of time like teleportation
@@alpaagja8252 also know as...a jumpcut..that takes 20 seconds..
@@Jan-zi2fn Yeah that's fair
Jan r/wooosh
Katia Popova r/itswooooshwith4os
Gosh darn I got cancer. But paradoxes though..
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HELLO! For those of you that have seen Grey's video: we are both aware of the similarities but just happened to release similar videos around the same time. For more info there is a link at the top of the description.
ALSO, hi! It has been a long 3 months but now that my cancer treatment is (hopefully) over, I have enough energy to get back to making Vsauce3 videos! Incredibly happy to be making again and so happy to have you here watching! You're pretty darn awesome.
+Vsauce3 So happy you actually uploaded it c;
how are you today?
how are you today?
Hi jake just wanted to ask do u really have cancer
I am glad to see you're back in action. Stay healthy.
Scientific Name: Logical Paradox
Alternate Name: Thought Experiment
Modern Name: Shower Thoughts
No I’m 14 and this is deep
Facts i thought of the thrid one but as a pinocchio in the shower but someone else commented something similar so im not gonna comment it
I concur, massive difference between a thought experiment and an accredited scientific one.
@Austin Martín Hernández my experience of thought experiment are purely philosophy
More like thoughts that randomly pops up when you taking a dump
What if Pinochio said "My nose will grow now".
Paradox
+Cameron Heyward his nose would transform into a black hole
this comment is false
+Cameron Heyward What if Pinocchio said his nose will grow?
+Cameron Heyward he'd porbably not exsist due to his illogicall consistency, wood that lives with a conscience? no matter if or if not lie this in itself is illogical.
4:40
*[30 minutes later]*
"Hey Vsauce! Michael here. Today I want to talk about hallucinations..."
Ahahaha
Funny
Vsauce is the type of channel to explain something and then leave me with more questions then answered.
Best kind of explanations are the ones resulting in more questions. If something is 'definite' there's no problems to solve, thus there's nothing to evolve to. For example. If I say that "rock is a rock and it consists of rock" and leave it to that. If everyone is happy with the answer and do not ask any more questions, the potential of a rock remains unsolved.
The grammatical and spelling errors changes the meaning of this comment.
EuroSPICE, and yet you probably know what they really meant. Being overly pedantic is far more irritating than innocent grammar and spelling errors.
That's the entire purpose of these channels.
I hope you get better.
he did :) later that same year I believe
yay Jake uploaded it! Proud of you!!
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+Noah Lawrence on his personal channel he said he was having 2nd thoughts about posting this vid. So the fact that he did means he got over it
+Noah Lawrence CGPGrey coincidentally uploaded a video covering essentially what was described in this video. A day before this one. This can often put people uploading these videos as they are often then accused of "copying".
+Noah Lawrence CGP grey, just before Jake planned on uploading this, posted a video speaking About the same topic. This was coincidental, and GGP felt horrible about it. (it happened to himself previously). He made a video urging Jake to upload the video. Both fanbases wholeheartedly agreed.
+Josh Fratis Cgp Grey on his second channel alsoade a video encouraging him to upload
4:40 This is the exact moment that Michael starts to deep dive into insanity. He thought that teleportation doesn’t exist in his entire life, and now that he knows that it exist, along with his privacy being completely shattered, he slowly starts to get mental.
He would start wondering if he was from the 4th dimension, simply walking into the 3rd dimension for a bit.
Everyone else with cancer-does regular stuff
Jake with cancer-Discovers teleportation
MotoKoko Makes sense.
The next sentence is true. The previous sentence is false.
I understand
"THIS SENTENCE IS FALSE
don't think about it don't think about it don't think about it don't think about it don't think about it
Uh, true. I'll go true. That was easy. I'll be honest, I might've read that one before."
Michael Zeleznik makes sense
Lie =/= paradox
Okay. So the first sentence states that the second sentence is true, and the second sentence states that the first sentence is false. So if the first sentence says that the second sentence is true, but is proved false, that means the second sentence is true, meaning the first sentence is false and the second sentence is true.
Vision: “You are familiar with the thought experiment The ship of Theseus?”
Jake Roper: “Naturally”
I'm reminded of the Stephen Wright joke, "I came home one night and everything in my apartment had been replaced with an exact replica."
If replicated to the quantum level , it would still count as the original apartment.If you create quantum replicas if the objects in your apartment , they would logically exhibit the exact same features (at least from any measurable perspective) as the original objects. The original apartment and the quantum copy of your apartment would be analogous to a entangled pair of particles , where the copy is the original , but the original is also the copy.... Unless i am wrong of course...
I'm watching this 4 years late but I hope everything worked out and that you're doing well. Thanks for the great video ♥️👍
Me too
What happened to his leg?
He had cancer in it
He is cancer free I asked about it in twitch stream and he Said he was free 1 year later
@@efekemal8637 thanks for the update man, appreciated and I'm glad to hear he doing well again 😊
thanks for the existential crisis dude
Yep
Existential Nihilism is where it's at.
+Amanda Sharkey
Well, it was his last episode so you might forgive him.
We will miss you :'(
+Raik how do you know that ? o.O
+Raik You could've just gone with the excuse that that was "this" Jake's last video
I'm so happy you decided to upload this regardless of other channels posting something similar. Jake.... you're an amazing guy with a train of thought in which can conquer the world. amazing video.
👍
+Christina Goodrow What channels? I saw CGP Grey and tought the same.
+Christina Goodrow Sarcasm?
+sandro sprajc Of course she wasn't being sarcastic.
+Christina Goodrow Both this and The CGP Grey video came out extremely close together. Like within one day of each other. Both of these videos very clearly took likely a couple weeks of research, production, editing, after-effects etc.
Them coming out so close together is almost certainly a coincidence.
Confirmed: www.cgpgrey.com/blog/letter-to-jake-on-the-agonies-of-parallel-creation
When you have nothing better to do, the best thing to kill time with is
*thinking about paradoxes.*
True, by the way I am Virat Kohli Captain of Indian Cricket Team hahahahahahaha
Zsirmik Marcell
That’s true
Battling Cancer by making it have an existential crisis.
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Yes, indeed...
This isn't a paradox but cool to think about
If you were to tell a story about everything you did today down to every detail would go on forever
Why?
Because you would tell about your day and eventual get to the part about you telling a story and then repeat it again and again
Weeman 3147 "this story"
In Neil Gaiman's sandman, there's a book that contains the ENTIRE story of the universe, describing everything that happens in it from its creation to its very end. However, no one is allowed to consult it to see the future, because then the book would become part of its own story. It would have to describe what it is describing, and so on and so forth.
Assuming an infinite time-span, sure, it's a nice thought about recursion, but the day ends, and as the day does, so do the daily events, making the story not infinite, just (potentially, depending on how fast you recount the story, and the daytime at which you started) very meta.
Weeman 3147 while reading your comment.. I just remembered I've done this myself.. 😅
not really its just impossible cuz ur telling things that happened today. at 23:59:59 you have to stop writing and since you cant write about future, your story about "yesterday" was almost complete, but unfinished
its not a paradox
Glad to see cancer can't stop Jake being awesome.
I just now learned that he has cancer. And still this attitude? Wow. That's great! Really nice to know that he doesn't get pulled down by it. :)
He beat it. It was in his knee.
I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I took a cancer to the knee.
+Chicken, My Friend it's too soon
+Chicken, My Friend that's a horrible and rude joke
Lynx TV ayy no man it's funzies and he beat die cancer so
*finally realizes what Jake is wearing*
Me: I can see you're a man of taste.
Ohhhh pokemon
WOW I just realized
Wowwww....
and i can tell you're a man of culture, but kore ga requiem da
Im glad you're Better!
*you're
sorry I just had to
*You're
+Jonathan Albericci thx
he's not though just watch his vlog channel he's doing worse but I'm going he gets better soon
There is a logical answer for every paradox.
But if there is a logical answer for every paradox,
then there is no such thing as a paradox. But if this itself is a paradox,
then there isn't a logical answer for every paradox, making this a paradox.
Woah
***** Or is that a paradox ...
You wasted your timing overthinking everything just because you came up with the idea that there IS an answer for every paradox.
MrFluffy But there isn't an answer to the idea that there is an answer to every paradox. Or is there? Because if there isn't an answer, then that is a paradox, but then that is the answer meaning that there isn't such thing as a paradox. But then that would be a paradox ...
Oryon
I clearly understand paradoxes better than you if you believe that the first statement of a paradox has to be true. Paradoxes are never true to begin with. Matter a fact there is no such thing as a true paradox. Every paradox either starts with a make-believe scenario or a non-factually based assumption. If you truly believe that, you'd better google some paradoxes ...
Childish, but, when he closed his eyes at the end couldn't help imagining him thinking of Michael on the toilet.
XD
Brother Geek? I found you!!! XD
The sentence below is True.
The sentence above is not true.
+The Troy Bishop (WhiteTiger707) Knights and Knaves.
+GameGeek 360 Yeah but he has more subscribers. REKT
4:23 "you're a little bit heavier" lol yeah man I used to be 7 pounds and now I'm 9 pounds
WOAH
wow i used to be less than 2 cm tall and now i'm more than 5!
Yay I'm glad this video got uploaded and didn't go to the waste!
Me too, good job Jake. Even if it's the same theme as the Grey video, they have a different enough style to not be copies.
bleh mehm CGP Grey made a similar video two days ago. Which made Jake unsure whether to post this video, which is his great comeback. Lots of drama, but in the end everything went along smoothly.
+bleh mehm +GCPgray
Amazing come back 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
honestly half the video is just hearing the way different people describe things, i liked Grey's video just as much as this one
all of those paradoxes are basically crafted. they only exist within the framework of our symbol languages, but in fundamental reality, there are no symbols - no labeling, and since those paradoxes only arise when trying to label things, they are solely our creations. so in other words, coming up with those paradoxes is basically coming up with paradoxes for the sake of coming up with paradoxes... which I'd consider an endeavor with very little merit, but I guess we all have some strange hobbies, so no judging. ;)
Amen
+Holger Kelz Well, the last one is little different. It's more about a definition of 'me', which is a big philosophical problem. Also, it was mentioned in Star Trek Enterprise, where some people just refused to use teleporter, beliving it would kill them and replace with their clones.
Are you saying that the paradoxes are paradoxical themselves? You my friend, are a a paradox making genius!
I wouldn't say all of them fall under this category. I believe most are created because someone tries to find absolute truths about concepts that vary, which isn't possible. Some may consider the boat that was disconstructed the same as before, some won't, that a matter of perception and opinion. Although valid, to question what one considers as "the" something is a flawed question in cases such as these.
I have to agree with you on the autologocal and heterological part though.
Yeah, nice point. But I think that these kinds of paradoxes do have value because all those 'labels' are to do with how humans connect and interact with the world.
Wait, if he has cancer and learned teleportation... Has he been teleporting bread lately?
+Forrest Weintraub nice one xD
You are a beast XD
tf2 reference
Lmao
"How much bread have you been teleporting?"
watching vision and white visions conversation made a whole lot of sense thanks to this 4 yo video
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+pigfucker 679 ???
+David J top kek
+David J kek
+David J That's a good idea.
Jake has cancer? get well soon Jake!
He had a cancer tumor but got it removed, let's all hope it doesn't return..
yeah, i didn't know
Stephanie Lai *quietly hums Cancer in the background*
I had no idea. I just recently found him on here. I hope he does stay in good health. Cancer is a scary, miserable thing to go through!
Oh my god I thought he was just saying that
1:03 when you survive no nut november
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I have a paradox. Sort of. What would happen if you read someone's mind, but their also reading your mind.
whos mind are they reading? yours or themselves
***** So person A is reading person B's mind, and person B is also reading person A's mind
you would read that person's mind that you read in his mind that he reads in your mind that you read his mind etc. etc....
You both explode
Nothing. If I read your mind, and you read mine, I would simply read my mind and you would read your.
if someone actually cares ... thre intro song is the " Der sommer" by vivaldi´s 4 yeartimes
I CARE!!
'storm' part from 'summer' season from 'four seasons' of Antonio Vivaldi
Crazy Chriz what about the end song? plz
Thank you.
Thank you! I have been looking for it
is it possible to be the first car in a traffic jam?
Nicole orriëns Have you never driven slowly or had to break suddenly? xD
Yup. It's the car all in pieces. Or the fire truck.
Yep, my record is a 15 mile traffic Jam for 45 minutes..
Yes. If there is something blocking the road, obviously the car in front would be "first". However, traffic jams when there are just too many cars on the road are caused by people slowing down. When one car slows down, it usually causes the car behind it to slow down and so on. When enough people have slowed down, traffic "backs up". Whoever the first person to stop is the first in the jam. Only get hets out of it very quickly, while the rest of the drivers behind him are screwed.
Yes. It's either one of the two cars in the accident who is first in the traffic jam. Or it's the very first car stopped in front of the accident.
When i close my eyes i just see Michael on the toilet.
Title should How to make you head ache in 7 minutes
Frid I'm glad you enjoyed the other 25 seconds
Charlie Diamond XD
Well that title would fit every single vsauce video more or less
First CGP Grey then Jake!! Existential Crisis is slowly ceasing me every morning.
Ikr
I know.... Is one copying the other?
+Joshua Decene No. Just two great minds thinking alike.
+Joshua Decene hey man watch jake ropers new video on his channel, he explains what is happening
thats it Already watched it.
im sorry jake, get better
he got the tumor removed ages ago
alex Corsair I at first thought that was an insult😂😂
XCIIBdub ever heard of the word hyperbole
XCIIBdub Why? It was quite clear that I didn't mean it was literally ages ago. I was just saying he was already completely fine long before Alex Corsair wrote his comment.
Goom Extreme exaggeration boom i are smurt
5:47 this literally used to occupy my thoughts when I was younger
The weirdest thing about this video is that im sittig in the exact same chair as him :0
lol
I have that same chair as well.
+Gott Hard But which chair is the original?
And wich original is original ?
+Gott Hard You have cancer
So the grelling nelson paradox is basically "this statement is false"
hOI
Another example is
"The next sentence is true.
The las sentence was a lie."
Hoi
+Temmie hOI
+Temmie Something something, Undertale.
i did not know you had cancer, i hope you get better
he doesn't have it anymore!:D
for now
Cancer can return, and often does, let's hope he will get better again if it does
i was surprised how he speaks about it, very confident. great guy
I was like.."wait is he joking?"
After Seven years, I came back for this masterpiece. I think my favourite video on Paradox of any kind.
OH HO HO that was VERY sneaky there Vsauce putting that last paradox in at the end ;)
When does a person actually become a person? At what point do these little lumps of cells become what we consider a human?
But now you don't have the backlash of actually saying it
Nice
WOW! did not catch that!
Yes, very sneaky indeed!
Clever Jake.
Woah, that makes sense. I didn't get the meaning of that last part.
Can you please elaborate?I didn't quite get it
"When does a person actually become a person? At what point do these little lumps of cells become what we consider a human?"
Kinda relating to when jake talks about a when a heap is no longer a heap or when a grain of sand is no longer a grain of sand. Does that help?
+OzoneZoe Ohhhhhh well that was sneaky.Thanks for the help!
I'm never going to be able to sleep again
Lie.
+ante piskovic it's all lies
Lol
+JandSand um if you go to his personal youtube channel he talks about himself having cancer so its not a lie
+Dinoboy Lipstein that true
Awww GoD bless you !!! I wish you all the best and I truly hope that you had a successful recovery journey . When in early stages as in your case I believe , it's treatable !
They dont believe in god.
Does it matter? That's your contribution? How about yea I also hope you have a quick recovery?
I told Theseus’ ship paradox to my grandma years ago and she responded (very quickly) “as long as it has the same name, a ship is it’s name.” It’s really funny bc I think as long as the replaced object retains its identity, whether self identity or one given to it, it is in fact the same thing. So I think a person who is broken down atom by atom and replaced completely is more the same person than someone who has no brain activity or multi personality or any number of things that could cause u to lose your identity
Most of these are less paradoxes and more philosophical questions.
+Best Tastes THANK YOU
Your smart
+jzpcbuilds grammer nazi alert
+Best Tastes can't a paradox be philosophical ? you know for as long as science has existed philosophy has accompanied it.. truly the field of logic is half mathematical and half philosophical. so I hope you're not thinking these paradoxes are vague and unscientific, they have strong implications in science.
for example the ship of theseus, or what makes the identity of something. if you can't answer to that, how can you assume that two objects are identical ? then, how can you count them ? the very notion of counting things is to admit that they're identical. like 4 bananas is always 4 bananas. but in the real world, if you take 4 bananas and 4 other bananas, they will not be identical. in mathematics the equal sign hides a little secret : "equal" things don't necessarily mean things are identical, but that they can be reduced to identical properties. it's the nature (and extent) of this reduction that the ship of theseus tries to clarify.
+Best Tastes All of them in fact.
Oh my, where did you get that tshirt?
Cringeland.
+Gustav Endresen Never argue with an idiot, people watching won't be able to tell the difference. *unt
From my childhood dreams.
pretty sure a website called rageon had it idk if they still do
sonerTG09 ...What?
Wish you health dude, you remind me so much of a young bill neil :)
+Kyle Grewal Bill Nye?
+Kyle Grewal Bill Neil the real seal pill
do you mean...BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+jazzfan1994 Bill Nye the science guy
yas!!!!
The piece at the beginning is the third movement of Vivaldi's "Summer", from the "Four seasons" violin concerto. You are welcome.
The First thing I noticed, I love it
Yeah, have you heard about Shazam? You're welcome.
Dude first thing I was gonna comment.
@@papagrounds inconvenient to shazam when I'm already using my phone.
Saying that doesn't make you a ling ling, go practice right now !!!
OH MY GOD
I didn't know you had the Big C.
Stick in there
We are all rooting for you
+louis thompson yea he has a big C (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+Bahmanis The Duck xD
The paradox of the heap has me confused in real life. Whenever I get a heap of money, I think each bit I spend doesn't really reduce it so I spend a bit here and a bit there and then a bit and another bit and . . . no more money.
haaahaHahaha
+Chris G It's not really a paradox it's just a vague word. If we come up we a minimum and maximum amount of items or volume to form a heap then it's just a range of amounts. It's like 6 cows are "several", if you add 1 it's still "several", if you add another it's still "several" until eventually you decide to cut the term to an arbitrary amount in which case it is now "many".
+vitorsly Sure, the paradox disappears when we put specific numbers to amounts. Counting with numbers must have originated as a smart way of making one amount distinguishable at a glance from another (or an amount at another time) which otherwise look pretty much the same. One heap looks like another, but 256 is obviously different from 257. Numbers are like a kind of magnifying glass for the present and a telescope for knowing the future. Trouble is I don't always want to know.
+jimmyfly you sound like an arrogant college freshman.
+Chris G I call it the "steam summer sale" paradox
THAT MICHAEL PART GOT ME DYING! hahahahha!
Ike
5:50 this had me thinking a ton about that
I like the word 'heap', it's just a fun word to say.
Ikr
+An anorexic pig
*hemp
+Cryp Tic heap*
+Spork25 I found a great word in the dictionary: "Squelch". It's my favorite word to call someone.
You squelch! Shut up squelch! Lol!
I guess you can say it's a heap of fun to say
good job jake on posting this im glad you found the strength to upload this thank you
I think of things like this all the time and confuse myself.
I thought this video will answer me and stop the confusion.
I was wrong.
+Zsolt The Gamer You wanted the video to solve a paradox?
Yes
Well if u yes to solve a paradox and it made you more confused are u still the same person than b4 watching it or are u no longer u, and maybe u said no to the paradox. LOGIC
(I actually don't know what I'm saying)
+Zsolt The Gamer Those are not real paradoxes so you don't have to worry :) They are just made up by people who had too much free time...
vernonclassic Yea, probably... So you are just one more of those "people like you" folks, who make smart insults about others and point the finger all day just to feel like they are somebody... To how many people have you typed those exact words today? Your comments are on the level of a third grader, you didn't even touch what I was trying to say, may be you didn't understand it that well...
This was something that came up today in a discussion with a friend(hence why I find myself here; I wanted to see other ideas about the "Ship of Theseus" paradox) and I gave my answer on the subject. My answer was that identity is a title given to a polymorphic collection of things and that collection of things comes with a signature. The signature being details about its composition and location in space and time, and the sub-things that make up the whole thing have their own identities formed by their own compositions and signatures(Call them sub-identities, sub-compositions, and sub-signatures). All of these properties combine to form the identity of the thing in question, such that as any one thing changes a new version is produced. Now while this identity versioning is constantly changing we don't always consider it. For example, an object might be version 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 and then a subtle change creates version 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1 but to us it's just version 1.0 or even just version one. It's not until more significant changes occur, usually, that we begin to acknowledge a change in version; such as version one-point-two. In the case of being disintegrated in one location and reformed in another location perfectly we we have to acknowledge a significant amount of changes occurred in the signatures(again based on not just composition but space and time). Therefore a new version was produced. So to identify something as the original is entirely a matter of personal perspective because in reality we're not...
I did not need an existential crisis today Jake.
"When you wake up in the morning how do you know you're the same person as when you went to sleep?" Because I'm still a failure.
i can relate :/
+Immajeanyus Or a clone of a failure? Which is worse, because then you didn't get a choice in the matter, but are just intensely empathizing with a previous version (or multiple) of yourself that made you a failure.
At least you could take solace in the fact that you'll be replaced by another clone tonight, who will feel what you feel now. But you will feel nothing, because you'll be gone.
4:44 the look give, when someone f*cked up and it's about to get real.
Now I have a identity issue. I need to see my therapist now
Does he actually have cancer?
yes
+Unknown Truthteller Yeah, he's talked about it on his personal chanel
+Unknown Truthteller and he can also teleport.
leg cancer
+Unknown Truthteller Yes. Check out his personal channel "Jake Roper"
It's good to see you back!
+CreepsMcPasta Hi Creeps, love your stuff :)
A heap ceases to be a heap when its parts exist in a single layer, and when you can count them, or at least begin to count them and be confident that you can finish, at a glance.
Richard Collins when tho?
Ok, so if we started from that point that you just said: A single layer, you can count them, confident you can finish at a glance.... now just add ONE. SINGLE. Grain of sand to that, and it becomes a heap? One single grain of sand would really make that much of a difference? That's where the paradox comes in. You can never get to that defining moment when it transitions to a heap, because that means it's only one grain of sand different... which is barely noticable. =P
It's still not a heap to you, but it might be a heap to the next person.Or you might leave and come back, and re-evaluate your ability to count the grains, and find yourself a little intimidated. That exact point, the point at which anyone takes a fresh look at the sand after ONE. SINGLE. grain of sand has been added and concludes that they probably couldn't count the grains, is the point at which the heap is defined, especially if it's pushed together so that it's no longer in a single layer.
But still, let's say someone is at that point where they don't think they could count it, so they call it heap. If you tell them to close their eyes, and then you remove one single grain of sand, they won't even be able to tell the difference when they look again. They'll still call it a heap. Especially if you don't tell them if you actually took a grain away.
So how is this a paradox just because people can't agree on the number of grains of sand, which we can't count, make up a heap? "Heap" is a very general term, a visual one, one that I would say by definition is something that isn't counted.
You know, I knew I was nerd, but the fact that I have heard of and had the pages for all of these problems/paradoxes bookmarked on my phone since freshman year really pushes the fact home
hope you're better jake but *you just nonchalantly mentioned that you have cancer dude wtf*
Yeah. I thought that was strange, but I figured it HAS to be something that was already more seriously revealed in one of their past videos or something. Has to be. I doubt he would tell his fans like that.
Cole Johnson maybe he just didn't want to make a big deal about it
Cole Johnson could be minor
For anyone curious... He's cured :)
*Watches video....blinks* I need a sandwich.
***** :)
juice He likes making Sandwiches.
+James Rivera yeah, sure he does
+SkilljoyJr you are the sandwich
psych question, ignoring science for a bit and focusing solely on the mind, what if he was raised that "humans" are actually "sandwhiches"? does that make him a sandwhich? is my red the same red as your red? philosophy!
I find the pinocchio paradox interesting, Imagine if he said "My nose will grow now" if his nose does not grow he is lying so it will grow, but then that will make it truth.... so in turn it should not grow... but again that will make it a lie... so it should grow.
It will wait a while, just long enough for it to become oddly timed if it were to grow, then it will grow.
It will grow incrementally, perhaps an inch of instantaneous growth a couple times per second, until eventually it gives up and explodes with the power of the Tsar Bomba.
Carah Amelie
Its just like this one:
The next line is telling the truth.
The previous line is lying.
Carah Amelie lol yo mama thought of that LITERALLY The channel YO MAMA THOUGHT OF THAT
The same idea would be applicated to "x=x+1" where x never stop growing but never get a real valor
The weird feeling, when teleport breaks and you suddenly appear next to Michael sitting on a toilet...
raise your hand if your not raising your hand
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When I know the answer to a problem, but I don't want to say it...
Its not a paradox... If someone isn't raising his hand while reading this question then he raise his hand, after that nothing tells him to put his hand down
+MlgEpicBanana69 I agree with your explanation
Sean Parker raise your hand ONLY if you are not raising your hand
*cuts off arms
God dammit Jake, now I'm having an existential crisis. Thanks a lot.
At least you're thinking more than most people do.
SAME
Google "How Far Can We Go? Limits of Humanity" by Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell... Then come back here...
Voxel Skull
I love Kurzgesagt!
ON DECEMBER 14, 2016. STOP THE GUY WITH THE RED SWEATER AT 4:46 PM
technically a brain transplant is a full body transplant
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+Gas Station Bathroom in Nevada
If the brain is where our consciousness (and much more) reside, then yes. But the brain could simply be the processor of our body and nothing more. If you only change the processor (like in a computer) then you still have your operating system and all your memories.
+Fast Er i think we can safely say that my consciousness does not reside in my kneecaps.
+QuinceDaPence You made my day
+QuinceDaPence or does it? o.o
Years later - I'm so glad you're healed
The sand heap paradox is just a matter of semantics
sandmantics
I think once an ratio of height to width for the sand is reached we can call it a heap. Even like 1 grain tall to gains wide or something.
How's that. A comment is made, I see it one year later, and have been beaten to the sandmantics pun by only 4 days
And gradual change in physical/chemical properties
I think if the sand is stacked then it's a heap, so three grains stacked would qualify as a heap. But it's just my opinion, I might be wrong.
Just when I thought the production value couldn't get any better
I've been waiting for this since that Sam and Niko video you were on
Same
what video?
what video? link? :)
+DeadlyDre search Jake roper and look for the advice video :)
I am so glad jake doesn't have cancer anymore.
If Pinocchio says "my nose will grow now". Will his nose grow? Or not grow? If it doesn't, that means he's lying and it will grow. But that would mean he was telling the truth, so it wouldn't grow, which will mean he's lying...
genius
+Cheesy Izaak no paradox here, If Pinochhio says 'My nose will grow now' he is lying because normally his nose wouldn't grow. Now after he's told that lie his nose will start to grow.
+Jones Corzlus and when it grows, it means he's speaking the truth
+Isaac Calderón Blanco
that's the paradox
how can his nose grow when he is telling the truth
Hes always explaining. he wants to prove to people that he is trustworthy and that he deserves to be changed into a real boy.
heterological is like a finger you point on something - the finger can point on many things, but it can´t point on itself, because "it is the pointing".
Tuto Rial I mean it can curve and point at itself slightly if you try
Ah...yes ...But if you curve your finger is it considered a 'pointing finger' at that point
Aim it at a mirror and you'll find the finger pointing at itself :)
@Pseudo Lain Wow nice I like that answer. I may have a rebuttal, something about left/right, but like I said I like that answer so let's leave it at that. b(^.^)d
....unless, of course, you would like to know...
Legend has it that he really does teleport.
Trey Ban
what do you mean? doesnt he? oh....
my life is a lie
your lyfe is not he can
Legend has it all Vsauce members are magical
Glad your'e back to good health, Jake! :)
a heap is an undetermined amount. so its a heap until you count it
or can count it
Urban Kitsune But if you use a microscope (and have enough time) you can actually count every single grain in a heap, does that mean a heap does not exist?
Alexis Jasso well then that specific heap is no longer a heap, but the next time you take a handful of sand, that is a heap. A heap just means an amount of something that you don't know the exact quantity of, so considering the next handful of sand you take is not the exact same amount as the one you counted, it's a heap.
The size of a heap is determined by your perception of the world. It's you trying to apply scale to something uncountable (as in it is not practical to count it). It's not about how many grains a heap consists of, it's about how big the sandpile is compared to something else.
We are all different and have different perceptions of things. So the very definiton of heap will vary from person to person.
Urban Kitsune
My friend said aproximatley 6 grains of sand
TheGuy I say 7 and a half grains of sand
W.D GaminG Wouldn't half a grain still be a grain?
Searena Carroll thats the joke
The way you solve the heap paradox is through an agreed upon unit of measurement. Otherwise a heap is relative. What you might think as a heap might not appear as a heap to me. IT is relative to the observer,
'MUSIC DURING THE INTRO'
It's "summer" from "Vivaldi's 4 seasons". That particular part that he played is near the end of the piece.
thank you
thanks alot
4 years ago yet the editing is beautiful
Jake finally got what he deserved...
some cool teleportation skills! Hope you get better soon, buddy!
The Vsauce video channels are highly underrated. This is what this generation needs! A fun and engaging way to learn new things! Keep up the good work!
He was really enthusiastic about having cancer...
Sometimes in a bad situation, all you can do is try to be happy.
Yeah...
+Ben Apsley I feel like Jake is probably not the kind of guy to be particularly bothered by a cancer diagnosis. Just another opportunity for creativity!
You should watch his personal channel... you'll understand that he's not enthusiastic.
+Ben Apsley Does he really have cancer?
that chair he has been stuck in for weeks is a $6000 chair
The bottom line is true
The top line is false
Hate you for that
paradox can occur when we fail to see a bigger picture. we read your comment with the concept that something can either be true or false. We restrict ourselves to the question.
Which one is true?
love it when ppl just witch up stuff from portal
+Ashley Carruthers The first line says the bottom is true. The bottom line says the top line is false meaning the bottom line is false. Since the bottom line is false it means the first line is true. Now this cycle will go on forever unless someone corrects me and shows me the end. Please if you find a end and can prove it show me it.
Hey guess what no one cares about the same shitty thing jut make a new paradox be creative use your brain
Over 9000 Thumbs-up for you teleporting into the toilet while your production parter loses a pound of himself into the porcelain pot!
Sorites Paradox is easily answered. It becomes a heap when there are 42 grains of sand. 42 is the answer to everything
Andy Daly Yay 42 likes.
I wanted to like this but I dont have the heart to
Adam Grohman i made it 43 hahahahahahaha
Yeah, but I made a funny.
it's a pinch of sand
I love the four seasons as the background music