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Honestly with how limited their budget was, this turned out pretty good. The only thing that made no sense to me was the shadows in the art style, it has no artistic value imo and I have seen no one that likes it.
This show needed more episodes but I realised that they definitely didn't have enough budget to do it, hopefully if there is a season 2, it will be more fleshed out.
Complaining about shadows is like complaining about Scarlets witches powers color.
This video pointed out the actual problems. The story. Better writing is what was needed for your limited run time not more episodes
@FireWizard It's definitely not irrelevant, it's off-putting to a lot of folks. To to the point, that the choice to add the shadows is the biggest talking point of the series. Almost every review mentions it so I would hardly call it "irrelevant"
@@piusdoe8984 There's a lot of difference between art-style for an animation and power design for a live action feature imo.
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Uh no, more episodes is really what it needed cuz in roughly 25 minutes 6 episode series you cant tell too much story wise
Something is always better than Nothing and the Dipshit Idiots who always cry will keep crying Doesn't matter how much of a Good Product they get
I appreciate that someone else likes King's story. It's probably the best outside of the Mishima business.
@@RandoLePerson King got 3rd place in the first tournament. He didn't outright win it. I agree that he has a clear shot at being front and center in Tekken 3, considering his master was killed by Ogre, who was unleashed from an old temple in Mexico, which is King's nationality. I wouldn't go as far as calling him a "main character" though. That is unfortunately reserved for the Mishimas.
I wish they more evenly distributed the core of the narrative instead of focusing on the Mishima stuff, but as it stands, everyone but the Mishimas are side characters. I'm just thankful that King was never turned into a Joke character with unsatisfying story and endings like the majority of the cast does now.
I personally saw King, along with Yoshimitsu as unofficial mascots of Tekken.
A lot of people like King's story.
@@Mick0ManiaWell, what did you expect from just 6 episodes? The criticism is valid, but i disagree that not much more couldve been done by the 6 number of episodes’s limited run-time.
I still liked it as it at least felt like tekken in the action even adding the visual flair and character moves. I also like that we got some Jin and Jun time since IIRC we dont get much of that in the games. I 100% agree it needed way more episodes than 6. I mean there were so many fights and interactions we missed like Jin actually meeting his friends and not in some montage sequence. I was also really thrown off with eddys replacement. As you mentioned its still the best adaptation we got.
Agreed, I thought it started out really well with Jin and his mom, then his training with his grandfather and the opposing ideologies he's exposed to.
the whoel show was pretty good minus the tournament honestly. Jun and Jin, Heihachi training Jin, Jin's dynamic with Xiayou and Hwoarang, the show even made Xiayou grew on me when I always found her meh. I do love the tiny scenes for Paul, Julia and King. but the tournament itself was very poorly written, we only saw 7 matches, the others had strange results that could use further explanation, no idea why they used characters from future games instead of saving them, and Forest and Eddy's unreasonable omission, nothing made sense as soon as the tournament started, it's like they had everything finished, and they realized: oh no, we forgot the titular tournament, let's put up something together quick.
Jun really put up a fight against Ogre I don't think Jun died but how they buried Nina was ridiculous making her lose to a teen who ain't even finish High School yet is ridiculous when Nina a highly skilled assassin and fighter their fight was a joke.
Nina simply underestimated her opponent and wanted to finish her quickly. Xiaoyu’s fighting style revolves around evasiveness and quick, unexpected attacks.
If Nina would’ve stayed cool, picked her spots and grabbed her when Xiao was off-guard, she would’ve beaten her.
@AT Productions Xiao’s grandpa is Wang Jinrei; a veritable God of Martial Arts.
I know it's like if Catwoman can beat Wonder Woman in a fight but we know in games Nina would tie Xiaoyu in a knot.
@@notgonnapay Nah Nina would sweep the floor with Xiaoyu. To be the Mishima Zaibatsu’s right hand doesn’t allow fighters who would lose to someone like Xiaoyu. Could’ve matched Xiaoyu up with Julia or Leeroy.
@@norikeboy you are aware that after Xiaoyu’s performance in Tekken 3, Heihachi chose her to be his bodyguard or something similar.
I think she infiltrated Hei’s ship and beat the crap out of all of his men. That impressed him, so he hired her.
And the scene in the anime is meant to show the importance of strategy in a fight; Nina underestimated her opponent because she’s a lighthearted little girl whereas Xiaoyu took Nina seriously and developed a strategy.
Upsets happen all the time in real fights and that’s what that scene is meant to portray. That, and it was an easy way to show the audience - those who know the lore of future games - why Heihachi would hire a little girl as a bodyguard.
As soon as a competent fan gets their hands on a story, they pitch something much more satisfying than the official product. This is what I don't understand about projects like the new Tekken show:
So they want to chip in the nostalgia of Tekken 3 and allow it's fans to experience the narrative of the series in a more fleshed out manner. But they decide to re-write key scenes, replace characters and give an even shorter story than what you get from the games?
I know Tekken's story isn't a master piece, but if they are trying to appeal to the fans, then their target demographic obviously likes the said story. Considering it's a story conveyed in short bios, it has a lot of gaps that gives a lot of freedom to work with. So why on earth do they decide to mess with what little key points they had to work with? Whenever any franchise starts retconning things, I feel a huge slap in the face for my investment in the story, and this has been true for all adaptations of Tekken into movie/series format to date.
I'm frustrated with the series, because there was clear attention paid to a lot of lore elements. So we came really close to a proper, canon, fleshed out cinematic take on the Tekken Story. I sincerely appreciate that they took the time to do so, as well as portray actual movesets in-game. But if they aren't going to reward the fans commitment by adhering to the established lore, then I can't get invested in their cinematic take. All it would have taken are the suggestions in the video for me to look forward to season 2.
And this is coming from a King fan, who I regret to admit, was given way too much spotlight than he narratively deserved. When will we see Paul's victory over Ogre?
Tekken 7's final battle is really good tho, probably the only real good part of the story mode.
Right. Its the only major part of Tekken 7's storyline that actually works thematically and it finally brought an end to the longest running fighting game plotline.
It's come REALLY close to excusing all of the awful stuff that went on with T7's story
Didn't know some fans didn't like the story in tekken 7 I just thought was okay
Exactly he's bugging
Because everything else is Tekken 7 was filler.
You need to stop getting your hopes up, Asuka is never gonna be important.
I mean she should, she has the actual power.
You really gotta do a Waste Plotential on Jinpachi he’s so interesting but there’s so little on him
Tbh Jinpachi was a one-note character to start with a dead man possessed by an evil spirit begging to be freed of its hold and whatever characters you played in Tekken 5 gave u different sides of the story - you hear either Jinpachi himself or the evil spirit talking
And they shouldn't really give more time than that feel like it wouldn't ruin his character if we learned too much
It has happened in other material. While non canon Namco clearly wants to establish that Xiaoyu can match and best nina
Xiaomi rofl.
@@Shibu_PL thanks I didn’t even peep lmao
Then they shouldn't have done that against Nina who is much more iconic to Tekken than Xiaoyu. Nina literally got shafted again while Xiaoyu beat her easily and had the main role in a Tekken movie. Not Jin, Heihachi, Kazuya, Lars, but Xiaoyu and Alisa both
Xiaoyu's greatest feat is still her Tekken 3 ending. Which although non-canon, retroactively really makes Tekken 7's final battle seem sillier.
@@Matt_Underwood xiaoyu didn’t beat her easily. Nina underestimated her and lost accordingly
It definitely needed at least 2 more episodes to better establish the supporting characters, especially Hwoarang and Xiayou - would have loved if the show expanded on Jin's relationships with both of them, showing HOW they met and WHY they are friends. There are so many storytelling opportunities that can be done with these and with the rest of Tekken's large and diverse roster and yet just about nothing was capitalized on aside from the Mishima's once again.
BUT
Considering the low budget and the fact that this feels more like a pilot series for something greater, I suppose I can let it pass. Hopefully if more seasons come, they do a better job.
Honestly, very disappointed not to see Chun-Li in this show smh XD
Or kotal in a wheelchair
Needs more voldo...
@@StationTube apparently u don't understand joke
forget Chun Li, WHY THE HELL ISN"T MEGAMAN IN THIS SHOW?
I understand this joke.😆
Though I definitely agree with your conclusion, I can't say I agree with how you came to it. Certain elements of the show could have used more fleshing out, but not for the lack of other stories not being adapted. It's more the quality of what they're adapting, rather than what else from the source they could be adding.
I agree that there should have been more episodes to flesh out the characters they had. I don't agree that they needed to be fleshed out to the degree you're suggesting. In terms of what this story is trying to accomplish, adding stuff like Nina's cryo-stasis or feud with her sister would be a very distracting element that may further complicate the story being told, rather than enhance it. I definitely agree that there should have been more episodes to flesh out Jin's relationships with Xiaoyu and Hwoarang, and add more credence to Paul's story. And making King the final challenge was an odd decision from a lore perspective. The more episodes should be used to bolster the story threads that they already have instead of adding new ones to keep track of.
Would have liked it if you explained why Leroy's fight with Jin didn't add much, because the Forest suggestion doesn't align with the issues you've have about fights not being connected enough.
Though I thought the fight needed more time to be fleshed out, Nina losing to Xiaoyu isn't THAT unreasonable (neither is Anna beating Yoshimitsu depending on the circumstances). As much exposure Nina has throughout the series, she actually doesn't really have an impressive collection of feats (Death by Degree is her fighting jobbers and fodder). Nina accels at assassinations and fighting dirty. In terms of martial arts, she's pretty much on par with everyone else. I agree with your suggestions to alter their involvement in the story up until the mind control, which hasn't been established as an element up to that point. And this version of Nina is probably the second best adaptation, since the LA movie and The Motion Picture drop the ball in many regards.
I agree that the climax could have been handled a little better than what they did. But for me, the level of game accuracy isn't as important as the level of game consistency; the story effectively accomplishing what it wants, while still staying true to the core elements of the source material. Instead of trying to be exactly the same. But that's just my personally.
Tekken has parts that are epic. While I agree that the series indulges way to much in making grand scale battles. But the show still kept everything relatively to the ground and had restraint when depicting the more epic moments. Comparing the sequences to DBZ is a bit too harsh of a slam.
Any other arguments that I didn't bring up I'm mostly fine with. Wish I could have seen the script before you made this.
Sounds like is a matter of how you use what you're given ratter than what they could have added, and I can kinda agree with that
Basically, quality over quanity. Which I can agree with. I'd prefer a quality based around a few character, then a bunch of lack luster stories. I also prefer the characters being more like their game counterparts, which was an issue with the movie which this guy seems to think was okay to do.
Honestly the problem with a lot of his arguments stem from the fact that the games had a lot of these things, but even in the games they were never truly fleshed as well as people would like to remember.
Just a little dialogue here and an arcade ending there.
The games only truly started going heavy on the story in the later games, and even then most people didn't like the stories given to them all that much.
Do I think the show could be longer, yes definitely, would it have made it better? For sure.
Does that mean what we have now is bad?
Not really, especially since it's really just there to generate hype for the games more than anything.
@@shadowphill81 even then, why does he keep treating the 90s movie like the best? It completely changed characters, to the point that it's only a tekken movie in name. He's also saying the one adaption that had the creator of Tekken, Harada, wasn't as good as one of the things he had no say in. It makes me wonder if this guy is even a fan of of the game series.
@@MarcoStrange I think it probably just comes down to personal preference, with the movie being in universe but separate instead of an adaptation of an actual numbered title, there was less to actually get mad about even if it did fuck up here and there. So I can't get too mad at him for that one..
Tekken Bloodline is okay/"meh" to be honest. Its not great but its not awful either.
Tis fair but leans more towards good lol
I don't think Nina is Tekken's poster girl anymore. That may have been the case then, but it certainly isn't now. If someone has been paying attention to the recent marketing, Xiaoyu has been billed as the main Tekken girl in recent years. She was the main Tekken female rep in the Project x Zone games, Kof all-stars game, and Fist of the North Star x Tekken.
The latter two were mobile games, but a series poster girl would appear regardless of its importance. Do you see Chun-Li miss out on crossovers like Nina does? There's also the fact that Xiaoyu was in the initial arcade versions of T7 while Nina had to wait for the updates. It was clear that Nina lost her status as Tekken's poster girl to Xiaoyu. The Bloodline anime just made it noticeable.
The recent focus on Xiaoyu is most likely due to Blood Vengeance. Xiaoyu was popular but she wasn’t taken seriously by the devs before BV. Her purpose in the lore was just comic relief. Namco didn’t actually choose Xiaoyu to be the main protagonist of BV, it was the film’s writer Dai Satō. Harada was surprised by the decision. After being impressed by Xiaoyu’s role as the heroine in BV, Namco decided to make Xiaoyu the franchise’s poster girl. That’s why Xiaoyu’s more mature characterization from the film carried over to the games.
Note that SFxT was the last time Nina was treated as Tekken’s poster girl. Blood Vengeance came out when SFxT was just months away so they couldn’t change the marketing. After SFxT, Xiaoyu began to be treated as Tekken’s poster girl.
Those fucking square shadows!!!!
What bothered me with the fights was the lack on an idea about how damaged characters were. They get comb'ed and wake up or they get combo'ed and they don't. Both times I was just thinking "oh ok...". The fights just felt like an exchange of combos VS combos rather than actual fights.
I quite liked Xiaoyu's last move against Nina, she clearly expected to be hit on landing but instead Xiaoyu came from above.
THANK YOU for bringing up Forest Law! I don't know why it bothers me so much but seeing Marshal Law on the board really annoyed the hell out of me, they didn't even show him anyway so why not just put Forest there?! I also agree he would have worked better than making Leroy a jobber.
ONG BRO THEY JUST MADE LAW LOOK LIKE A LOSER AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN SHOW LAW FIGHT HE JUST LOST TO A JOURNALIST THAT EASY SUCH A SHAME.
You bring up a lot of good points.
I really liked this adaptation and I really want a season 2. As for LEROY being there, I don't think it's cause Eddy was to Hard to animate. I feel that was Done because a lot of the episodes is everyone going on about Heihachi's dickheadness. Kazuya is more Eddy's focus. Wer as LEROY is Gunning for Heihachi. All of this could have been Way better if we had More episodes. But what we got with Just 6. I like a lot and love re watching. This show was surprisingly decent and still grounded in the sores material. I just Wish there was more of it.
@AT Productions bingo
Yeah I really want another season. There only thing I really wanted from this anime was more episodes. But yeah I agree he does bring up a lot of good points!
Why do people act like good story can only be in like 30 episodes. Just tell a good story with the time you have like so many other shows have done. Story decisions are the problem
That and Leeroy is popular in the Tekken FGC. That's primarily why he was in it.
@AT Productions and they have to shit on him as well. F them
Nina is my favorite fighting game character of all time and it sucks to see how fucked up they treated Tekken's poster girl of the franchise.
Reminds me of when they had Xiayou beat Nina in that one old Tekken Pachinko machine intro.
Litteraly why? Is it just because she's hot? Because I see litteraly 0 reason why she'd be anyone's favorite character from Tekken, nevermind favorite fighting game character of all time.
@AT Productions Nah, she stopped being poster when Xiaoyu showed up. I remember this was a big-ish thing during the 90s. It was probably mentioned or discussed in game magazines and stuff.
@@pedroportela6476 Who? Nina or Lili? lol
@@decadentgamer3108 Nina
If you look at the explosion at the cabin more closely, you could see Ogre teleporting at the last second while Jun was still latched on to him. That is a reason how Jun turned into Unknown. Hopefully they will cover it in Tekken 8.
Should have had Paul beat ancient ogre and win the tournament like in the game to officially win the tournament. Then have Ogre attack Jin and heihachi when everyone left, and absorb heihachi to become true ogre
Mostly just...nodding and seconding your main points here. It's one thing to cut out excess fat to keep the core story tidy (i.e. I may WANT to see Lei investigating Bryan's apparent return from death, or Yoshimitsu and Dr. B using Ogre's blood to accidentally make a kaiju rat, but they don't really add to the core Ogre conflict), it's another to chop off story beats that tie in and strengthen said core. All the more frustrating with Nina and Paul here, as they're technically 'featured characters' who are introduced like they're gonna mean something and just...don't.
Putting aside feelings about hypothetical power levels and who-beats-who, you don't even *need* to reverse the Xiaoyu/Nina decision. Mostly because that fight doesn't need to happen to have Nina go after Jin, she can (and would) absolutely make her move outside of the tournament. And even without the extra impetus of her hurting his friend, the mere fact of being in an unsanctioned scrap to the death - and the mid-battle realisation that it's Ogre's eyes staring back at him when he looks at Nina - would be enough to bring his Devil side to the surface, at least briefly. He overpowers her, maybe throwing out the T5-style Devil Jin manic laughter, and just barely regains control before landing a killing blow; in the aftermath, they have a little talk so Nina can spell out the possession thing and Jin tries to express some sympathy (working under the assumption that, in a perfect world, the anime would keep going to adapt T6 and it would have some meaning when Jin hires Nina) before we move on.
As for Paul, your idea works, but the devil in me (MY DEVIL GENE~) wants to stick with T4 canon and have Paul win. It would derail audience expectations in a fun way before the finale, and compels Jin to start wondering if the Mishima Style is all it's cracked up to be; Heihachi would of course blame the loss on Jin's own weakness, but, c'mon, going full rage punch mode against the Deathfist guy was always going to be a poor strategy, whereas dropping back into the more fluid, reactive technique of his mother could've worked. The one problem with T4's version of events is Paul leaving without noticing Ogre transform, something that only makes sense if Ogre's form shifting takes like an hour to work, which it clearly doesn't. So instead, have Paul defeat Ogre after a hard-fought battle, and right after he turns around with a raised arm to boast about it, that's when True Ogre pops up, rejuvenated by the transformation, cheap shots an already tired Paul and throws him through a wall (assuming there's any left standing, lot of those being broken on this show). Then Jin steps up for the true final battle and it can mostly go the same way, only it's more interesting in how it got there.
Or, you could just, y'know, do none of that and have both these characters' roles be reduced to 'exposition dump then jobbing out'. Makes as much sense as turning 2 of Jin's most important social interactions into 10 seconds of a silent montage.
Funny how the day I decided to watch this from start to finish, immediately you post this video. Impeccable timing, Mr. Snake.
Xiaoyu isn't weak nor unskilled, her beating Nina isn't unrealistic at all. Anna beating Yoshimistu is BS however lol.
And the final showdown in Tekken 7's storyline was not dumb either, it actually makes narrative and thematic sense and the direction of the fight was actually excellent.
And no, Tekken was ALWAYS an over-the-top epic story lmao. Even Its basic premise (a devil possessed dysfunctional family that owns a world ruling corporation) is blatantly epic and over-the-top. Tekken was always obviously influenced by Shonen anime like DBZ and even Harada himself said this.
Sure Xiaoyu isn't weak but she is nowhere near Nina's level of skill or experience. A highschool student beating a lethal contract assassin is really hard to believe. I would've preferred if she defeated Julia instead.
>a devil possessed dysfunctional family t
Er but that's not how the story originally started. Before Tekken 5 and Harada retconned the Mishima story, the family wasnot possessed by the devil, it was only Kazuya who was possessed and that was because he made a deal with the devil to survive his fall from the cliff Heihachi threw him off of. In exchange, Kazuya gets taken over by the Devil and when he dies, the devil moved onto his son Jin as the new host body.
@@loneblade9447 I do get what you mean. Nina seemed a bit out of character in that fight because she was going hella in on Xiaoyu and getting needlessly aggressive towards her. Like we know that Nina is a skilled fighter but she's very strategic as well but i dunno, it just felt awkward.
The explanation given that Nina simply tired herself out trying unleash her wrath on Xiaoyu seemed plausible at first but then you remember how Nina tends to operate, especially in Death By Degrees and it just feels off.
@@decadentgamer3108 Nothing you said disproves my point lmao.
@@decadentgamer3108 Given that the show wasn't well written I'm not surprised they had Nina fight like an amateur.
Wow, your improvement suggestions make way more sense!
I mean.. Tekken lore has SO MUCH potential yet Harada and the writers wasting it in the worst possible way. like, I’m setting my expectations SO LOW for T8 so I won’t be disappointed like every time.
Anyway, I’m glad this anime is non-canon
As much as I love King, I felt like they made him a bit too strong in the series.
They made him a monster and took out Paul (since it’s Tekken 3 era, Paul is supposed to be a rival to Kazuya and held his own for a while until Kazuya just overcame him) plus some of the fight results made no sense, like Nina jobbing to Xiaoyu making Nina’s role in the series seeming like she would be a major player only to job and forgotten about
Good series but has really bad writing elements at times
Xiaoyu’s grandpa is Wang Jinrei; a veritable Martial Arts God. I do wish that Nina had more screentime to fight a match against Her sister before the Xiaoyu match, but that doesn’t mean Nina should’ve beaten Ling.
The purpose of thar scene is to show that strategy can overcome skill in a fight; Nina underestimated her opponent and wanted to end the fight quickly whereas Xiao used her evasive moves to tire her opponent out. It was also to show Heihachi’s interest in Ling as after the third tournament, he hires Ling to be his head bodyguard.
And Paul would’ve beaten Kazuya if he hadn’t turned into his devil form. Paul also beat the Ogre in the games before he transformed into true ogre.
Personally, I wish we got that in the anime: Jin gets shot by Hei as Ogre comes in and Paul steps up to fight him. Paul thinks he’s won after defeating Ogre, only for him to transform into his cheap, fire-breathing form. Paul gets KOed and something happens that makes Devil Jin awaken.
That’s because canonically King(at least the original) was a beast. He made it to the final three in the original tournament and I believe he did it again in the second
@Ares 0160 but, isn’t that how it was supposed to have happened in Tekken 2? Sure, Kaz beat Paul in the first tournament without turning into devil, but Kazuya was ruthless in the second tournament.
@@emperorjoker9240 King came in 2nd in the first, 3rd in the second tournament and 3rd in the third. Even though in Tekken 3, King isn’t the same King who participated in the previous tourney, he still did really well.
@@notgonnapay i’m aware, my point is both kings have always been incredibly strong and top fighters so the show portrayed him pretty accurately.
That's honestly the issue I had with Tekken Bloodlines, it needed more episodes to flesh things out further or atleast to add more fights, it really felt they jumped 2 steps over between steps.
I like your take on it but I disagree. Personally I think from what we got was actually great and as a Tekken Fan I was satisfied despite some tiny nitpics, hell from what we have here I dare to say Bloodlines is way better than the First Tekken Ova and has some very epic moments like Jin letting the devil awaken inside him and the multiple times they used actual moves from the games along with great camera angles
I don't think there is anything to disagree though, he is speaking truth. This show get a lot of praise for no reason other than cheap, temporary fan service. Jin awakening devil is kind of a given and fighters using moves from the game was nice I guess. Personally I would have sacrificed the latter for some much needed character development. Because that's what the game sells, it sells characters. It shouldn't be just the Mishimas. Bloodline for me seemed more like a very obvious marketing campaign so hearing from someone that it is better than the first movie which had it's own philosophy and aimed to be a work of art, sounds really weird. To each their own I guess.
@@georgedrizs5336 Tbh, Tekken Motion Picture ain't that much better compared to the Tekken Bloodline. Bloodline has issues yes, but so does the 90s film as well. Most of the characters in that movie just stand around and does nothing. Only Michelle and Jack have some form of backstory if we are not counting Kazuya and Jun. Nina and Anna's feud was explained in a short dialogue before Anna gets eaten by dinosaur. Most of the fights in Motion Picture were over in 5 or 10 seconds, it was quite disappointing.
I love whenever snake ends a video sounding pissed…. Then the transition to the Patreon pitch
Eddy also got his ass whooped by Bruce and he is in the hospital. That is what they explained in the movie in those news articles in Episode 3
Bruce Irvin is Not Canonically in Tekken 3.
@@hurricane7727didnt ogre attack/“kill” everyone
@@Mariahcastillo9057 Baek Doo San Survived his Attack.
@@hurricane7727 attack/kill
Always get hyped when Snake does a Tekken episode ^__^
It's the fact they really made Xiaoyu defeat the poster girl and female lead of Tekken Nina.
Disgusting
Ungrateful what they've done to my girl
Mad copium here, and I don't mean it badly, but Nina isn't really what people thought she was, the creators' have made things insanely clear on her importance.
Xiaoyu is Tekken's poster girl, not Nina. Xiaoyu has been the sole Tekken female rep in many crossovers while Nina never has. Xiaoyu also has her own movie(Tekken: Blood Vengeance). Xiaoyu has been in T7 from the beginning while Nina was absent in the initial arcade versions and had to wait for Fated Retribution to be added.
@@kazama9832 Asuka, Lili, Feng Wei, Jack, Hwoarang was also in the based roster as well.
The obvious hero plot armor that just makes me roll my eyes. Jin beats up everyone, avenged Mom and the end.
This is why I was the most pissed Paul didn't get his fight with Ogre Tekken 3 was the only game that pushed the Mishima's aside and expanded the Tekken verse
He Jin only fought Eddy Hwoarang and True Ogre not his standard form that was Paul really wasted potential their and geez Nina is just Fem villain how boring Jin freed from the brainwash so I left her out of the list
@@Doralga Tekken has lost its way. Tekken 7 was the peak lameness of story telling.
But that's litteraly, almost step by step, how it went in the original story? Why are you only complaining about the show's version of events?
@@Doralga I'm kinda confused. If Paul defeated the first form of Ogre, wouldn't he have to fight past Jin and Heihachi to get to him?
@@teriosshadow17 Jin and Hei were fighting each other at the time under the impression Heihachi was on Jin side for Paul he just when up to the finals defeating everyone else
Bryan and Eddie be like: 😐
I agree with most of the stuff you said here but I can't agree on your critique of tekken seven's final ending that fight was awesome and was completely fitting for tekken
I didn't know they even made another Tekken anime
I actually liked the final battle in Tekken 7. What irked me more was how Kazumi died. Kazuya and Jin have been through how much damage? And Kazumi gets snapped like a twig. They hyped her up to be this big next notch in the story like Jinpachi and she's just backstory that isn't consistent with the source material.
Still better than Akuma coming out of nowhere
The biggest mistake netflix made was they rushed the series and left out alot of lore and back stories of so many characters. Netflix should have started from the first game of Kazuya against Hitachi and build up from there
I think there was a missed opportunity to explore the previous games by having Jin interact with the other fighters. Like how you mention Paul Phoenix having nostalgic feelings towards Kazuya, Julia Chang and Yoshimitsu could state that the Mishimas are exploitative capitalists but Jin blows them off seeing them as crazy eco-nuts and commies, not realizing they're speaking the truth.
Does Paul have nostalgic feelings about Kazuya ? He seems to strongly believe that the Mishima was a bad person just based on how he fought in the arena.
@@xtoadsannom6704 I don't have Netflix but 4thsnake said Paul said he had a friendly rivalry with Kazuya. I know it's not like that in the games since Lee was the closest thing to Kazuya's rival.
Can always count on you to come in and help fix the wretched writing of a beloved fighting game series. I went into the show with an open mind and wanted to watch it before hearing what others had to say about it and as I feared but expected, the show was a mess. Sure it had some really stellar looking fight scenes and I liked how they incorporated the characters' fighting styles into their fight scenes but once you get past the flashy animation, you're met with a BARE BONES show that failed to set out what it was trying to do which was adapt the Tekken 3 saga.
as agreed, it's absolutely true that the show needed more than 6 episodes. Hell the standard 13 episodes that Netlfix series' usually get would've been more than enough. For me personally, it's the lack of character interactions that really made this show underwhelming and believe me, I was already trying to let things sldie like how characters like Leroy, Steve, Marduk, and Feng Wei had no business being here. But it's the fumbling of certain plot points that really hurt the show as well like Nina no being mind-controlled by Ogre while suffering from amnesia. Them eliminating that key plot point to her character made her inclusion feel so pointless. Because when you really think about it, why was she here? What was her goal? Sure you can say that she was there to kill Heihachi but being someone who played Tekken 3 back in the day, I just don't find that good enough and I believe they should've just kept the old plot point instead. It could've played out like you said where she's mind-controlled by Ogre, painfully beats up Xiaoyu which enrages Jin and gives more causation to the activation of his devil gene and when he defeats her, she's freed from the control. Nevermind the fact that we don't even see an interaction between her and Anna.
And then Leroy. Let's be real, he was only included here because they wanted to have a black character to have the cast be racially diverse and don't get me wrong, that's all fine and good but there already was a POC character that existed in Tekken 3 and that was Eddy and they could've just used him instead while staying true to the Tekken 3 era. Leroy being here just clashed with that and like you said, it didn't bring anything worthwhile to the show.
I was actually thinking that Jin could've fought Eddy and broke his leg but your idea with Forrest Law being the fall man instead is a much better idea and would make more sense for like you said, why Forrest took a break from fighting to be woven into the game's story.
I also agree that Paul should've been the final opponent for Jin instead of King That was actually what I thought was going to happen when I went in blind and I was surprised that this didn't happen. It really would've made a lot more since with Paul being the final opponent where it would've demonstrated why he was was the King of Iron Fist Tournament 2 and that way, Jin could still give the prize money to King to open up the orphanage which was good addition i n the show to show Jin's selflessness that he learned from Jun's teachings.
Really all my complains about the show could've been solved if the show had more episodes because the show really dropped the ball on fleshing the characters out more. I wouldn't mind seeing slice of lice scenarios like Jin adjusting to public high school while being befriended by Xiaoyu and spending time together as friends while running into Hwoarang on some occasions and through their fights, become friends with a rivalry streak.
Or Julia having flashbacks of spending time with Michelle and learning more about the pendant from her. Or had they actually stuck with the Ogre brainwashing of Nina, Anna initially being ticked at seeing Nina at the tournament only to grow concerned when she realizes that she has amnesia and decides to try to help her out (which weaves into Nina's Tekken 3 ending when she gets her memories back). Or Lei Wulong knowing Jin through Jun and how Jun stayed in contact with him where they remained friends and he visits her and meets Jin as a baby or adolescent child.
You know just things that would help breathe more life into the characters. That is what I was hoping Bloodline would do but it failed to deliver that and instead we just got a jumbled mess. Let's be real here, we knew the fight scenes were going to be good but a good show is one that you see yourself going back to and for me, I just don't see myself going back to Tekken Bloodline. Once you get past the cool looking fight scenes, there's really not all that much there at all. And compared to Tekken the Motion Picture from 1997, the latter still is a better experience (imo) because it did what this show failed to do which was attempt to flesh out the characters by having them interact with each other.
Bloodline was just indeed, "Wasted Plotenial" and though we shouldn't be surprised at that, it still is lowkey depressing.
I think Leroy works as Jin's first fight, an old, stubborn man with a grudge against Heihachi that he's all too happy to extend to Jin (I don't think Eddy would have worked as well given that he's much younger). It gives Heihachi the impression that everything's going according to plan... before Nina cocks it up and loses against Xiaoyu (thus eliminating an easy source of rage for Jin), Jin refuses to win the Mishima way against Hwoarang and finally Julia ruins another opportunity to have Jin fights someone that he actually wants to hurt when she reveals King's motivations. Then Heihachi has no choice but to get into the ring to get Jin well and truly mad.
I wanted to do a review like you but I suck at editing so my opinion is... cons. Swapping Eddy for Leroy really rubbed me the wrong way. Eddy is integral in Tekken Lore especially to Jin and Hwoarang so why was he missing. Also why are Tekken 4, 5, and 7 fighters in a show based off TEKKEN 3. Also this seasons was hella short. 6 eps? You could squeezed about 8 or 9.
Pros: fight scenes were awesome. Jin actually showed emotion. Story was pretty good. B+ for me
Personally, i also like to have Jin face off Eddy Gordo instead of Leroy. Eddy Gordo hates Kazuya for killing his parents and seeing Jin having same resemblance could've added more to the conflict.
@@teriosshadow17 100% AGREE. Eddy vs Jin wouldve told a better story.
Yo they just announced a season 2.
But I agree with everything you said also what's weird is how some characters don't even have the proper Tekken 3 designs.
Xiaoyu has her Tekken 5 DR - Tag 2 outfit
Nina has her Tekken 5 - Tag 2 outfit.
Julia has her Tekken 7 look
Heihachi has the Tekken 5-7 iteration of his gi from Tekkens 1 and 2.
Kazuya in Tekken 2 flashbacks has his Tekken 5-7 gi pants.
Where did they announced a season 2?
Finally, someone else who likes the original Tekken movie!! 😄
“Tekken 7’s big, dumb final battle.” Thank you!
"Paul's technical win" - Paul absolutely won. If anything, _Jin_ only won on a technicality. Paul had no way of knowing that he had to wait for the beaten Ogre to wake back up, wait for him to transform, and then beat the transformed Ogre - let alone knowing that Ogre could even transform in the first place! And Jin had been eliminated already!
I swear to god, I will die on this hill.
It's Ogre's own damn fault he didn't go all out from the beginning. Imagine a regular match ends, and the lower said it didnt count because he didn't use any of the judo he'd been practicing, only for some schmuck who got eliminated in first round to run in and fight the guy, then be crowned winner of the whole thing - _without even telling the actual winner about any of this._
Paul was done dirty.
_They_ did Paul dirty.
They doned did Paul dirty did.
They doned dirty did my dirty dude.
They done didded Paul dirty doned.
Paul done got did a dirty do.
Nobody seems to be mentioning the fact that ogre teleported from the explosion while Jun was still locking him in an arm bar. Makes you wonder if this is how they’re going to make it seem like she disappeared.
Some might say Tekken is... HOKEY.
Xiaoyu won because she was wearing sensible footwear 😁.
I'm guessing one of the main problems with the adaptation is that Jin is too nice and almost a functional teenager ? He's got friends, he implies that he would have liked a fight against Xiaoyu for the sake of it, he protects Julia from his grandfather and he's clearly not obsessed with vengeance enough that he would do what's truly necessary to bring out Ogre against people who don't deserve it. Hence why Heihachi has to step in at the end, because Jin would have absolutely no problem hurting him.
Was Jun hoping to maybe bore Ogre into leaving at the beginning ? She only starts attacking him when Jin comes out, as if she wanted to make herself a bigger target than her son now that he had gotten the demon's attention.
In Tekken Blood Vengeance you do see a Picture of Jin in the High School.
7:06 oh CALM DOWN, producers! You are *losing it!*
The writing is better than I thought it would be. However the show feels like it only exists to be "content" on Netflix. If they were going to do an origin for Jin Kazama, the season should have been 20 episodes, 20 mins per episode. The characters and story would have been much more fleshed out.
Don’t forget about the horrible looking triangles as shade
Came here to say this. Whoever thought that was a good design choice deserves to be fired.
@@BethLovitz Although, it could be due to the budget
@@featherpheasant3851
If the studio was really that desperate to save on budget, they should have just left the characters unshaded. Other anime like Shinsekai yori do this and it looks perfectly fine. More than likely the triangles were just a bad stylistic choice.
It really is a shame about Bloodline, but I should've known something was wrong in the trailer when a tekken 7 character like Leeroy Brown? showed up.
And I agree with you. Tekken: The Motion Picture is better than it's given credit for and still remains the best Tekken adaptation even now, given how ridiculous the Tekken stories get after 4.
6:46 I see now.
The corners they cut manifested themselves in the form of of shadows
I agreed with a lot of what you had to say but the action in Blood Vengeance was sick and I’d argue the best we’ve gotten to see in the series.
The fighting scenes were good in BV but that's all it had. The narrative was the WORST out of all 3 Tekken animated adaptations.
@@decadentgamer3108 that much I can agree with but there were some aspects of it liked. Such as I didn’t know I wanted a friendship between Alisa and Xiao, or to see Ganryu as a PE teacher lol.
@@BingBingTheClown I didn't mind Ganryu being a P.E. coach neither, I could see the character doing something like that when he's not sumo wrestling lol. But I loathed seeing Xiaoyu and Alisa together mostly because I just don't care for Alisa. Asuka should've been the one in Alisa's place but that's just me. I just never cared for the character and I feel ideep nteraction is pointless since she's still just a robot at the end of the day.
I'm glad I'm not the only who was annoyed by Anna beating Yohsimistu. XD
Same. Anna is an okay fighter but it's hard to imagine her bearing Yoshimitsu... would've been better if we actually SAW how she beat him lol
As much as like Anna more than Nina by miles, Anna beating Yoshimitsu was a massive WTF moment. Like, she isn't a low-tier fighter, but of all people Yoshimitsu!!!???
I liked it for what it was. It was alright. Hopefully season 2 is longer and they get a higher budget
I didn't like it. After all these years SF II Animated Movie is still undefeated champion of best fighting game adaptation. Nina lost to Xiaoyu? Paul lost? No interaction between Paul and Forest Law, Nina and Anna, King and Marduk? No Lei? Tekken 3 has still best story out of entire the Tekken series in my opinion. They could make a really good adaptation from its story. I really like your ideas but one thing I could add is Jin actually lost against Paul. It makes him realise he is not his father's level yet than Ogre comes and Paul beats Ogre like the cannon after that Paul got tired and unconscious after that Ogre turns True Ogre and this time Jin fights and defeats him.
It's so frustrating because thee was SO MUCH material to work with when it comes to Tekken 3 and yet they still botched it and in such an egregious way at that.
I actually thought Tekken Bloodline is a good adaptation on par with that Tekken OVA from the 90s. The fight scenes were top-notch and accurate to the games, the central characters (Jin, Hwoarang, Xiaoyu, and Paul specifically) were well written, and I liked how it stayed true to Tekken 3 for the most part.
However, I agree with you on what you listed in your video as the series was too short and would have been better if it fit 12-13 episodes (like a typical anime season). Nina should have won the fight but it would be cool to see Xiaoyu fight other opponents before her fight with Nina as a way to show off her skills. There should have been better character-establishing moments as a way to introduce the cast in a better light. Also, an epilogue of sorts for the hype of a continuation.
No Bryan Fury 0/10
@@pious83 very true. I wanted to see Panda as well.
@@jbbelenkokoro2673 You would have thought an adaptation of Tekken 3 would feature those who debuted in that game, at least. Not wasting space with T7 cameos.
While you're entitled to your opinion, I have to disagree with the notion of it being on par with the OVA movie. There's no denying that Tekken Bloodline ha some well done animated fight scenes but it was severely lacking in narrative. We hardly got any meaningful interactions (be them pleasant or unpleasant) with the characters excluding Jin & Heihachi. Certain plot elements were changed from the source material which made things confusing or pointless (Nina not being mindcontrolled, Leroy being there, No Forrest Law), etc.) I mean the latter is probably more an issue for those of us who grew up with the games as they came out but still... The OVA may have aged and has some laughable voice acting in parts, it at the very least still more or less gave some meaningful (for what it was) interactions between the characters like Jun getting to know Lei and Jack-2 and somewhat Michelle.
But mostly the OVA still felt like a piece of the game it was adapting atmosphere.
Most people will like this show because most people have a casual relationship with the Tekken story.
It won't matter how bare bones it was or how it treated the characters. Hell if Jinpachi showed up and King or Xioayu defeated him this show would still get 10/10 😆
But I enjoyed it from just getting to see these characters I love and some of the fighting with the game moves. It may be ok series but I'd definitely watch season 2
not gonna lie the blood vengence and tekken 7 final boss for me was fire
To be fair, it actually made sense for Xaioyu to beat Nina in the context of that fight. Nina was to focused on the fact she wasn't fighting a mature veteran fighter rather then the fight it self. Xaioyu on the other hand was actually focused on winning and wanted to prove herself. If the two where to fight again however Nina would most likely win. I don't think the scene was ment to down play Nina at all.
The way you would’ve improved the story would’ve been dope….would’ve loved to see Jin training in that Tekken 4 hoodie outfit training for The King of Iron Fist Tournament 4 at the end as a setup for season 2
Great video. I had a lot of similar thoughts. There were so many low hanging fruits that could have been done to make the show way better. I don't think the low budget excuse goes far once you articulate it. Thanks for posting this.
Hey 4th Snake, can you do a video about Akatsuki Blitzkampf? Also keep up the amazing work.
I don't know what that is.
The show is OK if you're already a fan and know about the characters or you're more interested in just the coreo.
but as a standalone narrative it's pretty awful if you don't already have established knowledge as the show a lot of the time just has things happen. With no setup, or things are hinted at or talked about with no payoffs, they were obviously worried about not getting picked up with a second season so why even waste so much screentime with unnecessary plot beads and extra characters if you can't pay it off properly. 😂 The constant montages got old real quick which luckily they stopped doing too much near the middle.
One thing that I think could have been explored, Steve. He’s got beef with Heihachi for the experiments he allowed which Steve had to endure plus (if he ever did research during that time) could have had a confrontation with Nina and we also could have seen a friendly rivalry with him and Hworang. Whole lot of stuff could have been explored but I’m glad this even got an adaptation to begin with
Steve was not in Tekken 3
@@hurricane7727 I know that, he was in 4 but for some reason they put him and characters like Leroy, Feng, and Craig in Bloodline anyway
Also Steve Fox was in there for 1 frame
Which Tekken Returning Character would you like to see in Tekken 8 for me The Original Wesley Snipes Raven and Bruce Irvin
I expected you to make a video about this show, knowing your personal reputation on Tekken
This and Klonoa hd are the reason why even when you're a fan from bandai Namco you get fucked.
What I don't understand with xiaoyu in this show, how did she beat Nina but she lost to the new king? Isn't xiaoyu like king's worst matchup?
Because sexism. On a serious note yeah, if xiaoyu was all about speed and strategy like Heihachi claimed, why didn't she do the same against King by wearing him down like she did on Nina?
@@decadentgamer3108 From what's its shown, Xaioyu couldn't evade all of Nina's attack and sometimes had to resort to blocking and even attempted to land big hits on Nina which required her to be up close which is a dangerous territory when it comes to fighting grapplers. King has both speed and power and shows that he could handle strikers since he did defeated Paul which who's a very skill fighter. Xaioyu isn't know for grappling either, so she wouldn't able to counter or get out of any of King's moves which are very damaging and often times, back to back wrestling moves.
I like how they've established connections between the characters in this. Like Jin, Hworang and Xiayou being friends, and that comraderie between him and Paul. It gives extra feeling for when Jin starts WW3 in T6. I like that Heihachi shooting Jin wasnt private cause it gives more for Hworang and Xiayou to do in T4 since Xiayous mission in T4 was to win and build a time machine and Hworang was just looking for a rematch.
I hope they make a season 2 I would love to see Tekken 4 storyline be animated.
Tekken bloodline is another unsuccessful anime adaptation of the same game franchise like it's previous movies and animations (Tekken the motion picture, Tekken 2010 live action movie, TBV). At the beginning it promised too much to stay true to the story, but they couldn't keep up with their words. They skipped many things like, How Jin got his tattoo, other characters' fights, and other Tekken 3 rosters (Bryan, Eddy, Law, Lei, etc.). Also, participation of Steve, Feng and Leroy in Tekken 3 and Julia wearing her Tekken 7 outfit doesn't make sense at all. Tekken bloodline felt like the makers rushed it and forgot to fill in the gaps. It skipped so many parts, and modified some parts in their own way, which doesn't feel true to the original story anymore. It became totally non canon. They should remake the whole series again showing the true story of Tekken.
Tekken Bv at least had a Good Last Triple Fight with Kazuya , Jin and Heihachi. I would say both that Movie and Tekken the Motion Picture were Good
@@hurricane7727 That TBV Fight was epic, but too much flashy and animeish. TMP was ok.. but didn't stayed connected with the original Tekken story. That's what made the anime non canon. And TMP was an adult hentai anime (not 13+ like the games). But TBL was worst than all of them to be honest. The story is 50% made up by the creators, and only the other 50% is true. Rushed all the fight scenes. The last fight was not at all climaxing. The English voice acting was so bad for some characters.
Xiaoyu beating Nina is not unrealistic. Listen to Hehachi, for christs sake there was a whole speech.
Ogre’s control makes more sense, now that I heard it. I would have assumed she hired to throw the fight because COME ON!
I main Xiaoyu, but I am not a simp!
XD
@@Ramsey276one your a P3Do for maining Ling Xiayou
They did Nina (The iconic female of the franchise and was once voted as the hottest female fighting game character of all time) dirty. They could have at least had her lose to someone else other than Xiayou.
6 episodes was way too short. Should have been maybe 20-26 episodes
I didn't think I would hear someone say the Tekken OVA was better than bloodlines.
Agreed on all accounts I don't know why the need for DBZ esque battles like mind you T7 attempt to have you believe Heihachi human after all the insanity he survives
Do developers believe Kaiju battle sell cause I looked everywhere and everybody hates it
F for Harada though he thought T7 would make people like the Mishima's now he's the only Tekken fan who likes them everybody else knows they took the spotlight for too long.
I just watched your video after making my own review for my channel and I have mixed feelings. I agree in a lot of things you point out (needed more episodes, wasted some iconic characters, some fights should`ve been changed, etc) but overal, I liked this adaptation.
If they really wanted some epic explosions and stage destruction etc. Why they did not adapt SoulCalibur ?
That Game was Always Less Popular than Tekken Sadly.
I enjoyed Bloodline, but you made good points on how to improve it, because TBH, the only room for improvement I can suggest is to add Bryan.
Personally, I like Tekken's over the top moments, keep the gigantic city destroying fights coming.
I think its a bit strech to call this faeces, but I agree that some bits didn't fit so well. And jeez the flashbacks at the end. My god! SO!... MANY!... FLASHBACKS! Though I think that this series made the right decision not focusing too much on other characters. Because all it would have done is confuse the audience, and make any newcomers lose track of what is going on. A better idea would be to do a spin-off series based around specific characters, because then you don't need to worry about drawing attention away from the main plotline and you get to cover each character in depth.
As much as I liked the Leroy Smith fight, I think it would have been better to just have the original roster. Just personal preference.
They could have focused on new characters fine. Other adaptations can juggle like 7-8 in like 9 episodes, see Arcane which had a large cast of characters they developed (Jinx, Vi, Caitlyn, Jayce, Viktor, etc...).
The problem was it being 20 minutes and only 6 episodes, it might have well been a movie instead of a series.
@@chronorogue863 It definitely was too short. If they had the extra time and a higher budget then maybe they could have split more focus between characters.
@@chronorogue863 Except that Arcane had Riot budget behind it, 9 episodes with 40 minutes in lenght, and years of production before it was released.
You just can't compare it to Tekken bloodline.
@@pedroportela6476 Tekken funded Blood Vengeance which likely had a much bigger budget with a whole ass theatrical release.
I have a really hard time believing they could not afford to fund a quality Netflix series, but Castlevania could which as a franchise has sold less than Tekken (53 mil TEK vs 20 mil CAS). And that's because Castlevania is using hand-drawn animation which is harder than 3D models and likely more expensive even with slightly less episodes.
Also being years in production shows good planning (or at least hesitance), that's on the Tekken team if they didn't plan for this.
Thanks for the heads-up, The Tekken fan in me will remain in cryosleep for now.
It was actually pretty good considering the limited time they had. They left it open for more without showing everyone's full potential. It's how every anime starts out. I have little to know complaints and hope we get to see more. It actually followed the cannon quite well and I really hope we get a season 2.
Annoyed they excluded both Eddy and Gun Jack, and True Ogre went down *way* too easily, biggest anticlimax in the show, TBH.
Oh, and they did Nina dirty, SMH.
Ogre didn't reawaken, he landed.
They had a demon dude and we did not see the fight. Like come on the awesomeness is right there.
This is very true and it's disturbing how so many just couldn't see that Netflix butchered another beloved classic that have so much potential..
I hate the shading choices in this show. Everyone has the same top triangular parts in every scene, every angle.
Yes forest law deserves better and yes xiaoyu winning was a total cap, this show tried but it still missed although it was good but it missed. The way u explain this is exactly how I figured it should had go
Some liberties were taken, relationships were underdeveloped or established without that progression journey like Jin and Hworang but it was ok overall.
The show was alright, but I'd change the fight lineup, and the characters involved. If it was up to me, I'd use characters that are in Tekken 3. Not pull characters from Tekken 4, Tekken 5, and/or Tekken 7 (Marduk, Feng, and Leroy). With that being said, here are the characters from Tekken 3 that I'm excluding...
Dr. Bosconovitch - He's a playable character in the PlayStation version of Tekken 3, but doesn't actually participate in the tournament.
Gon - He's a guest character.
Mokujin - He wakes up when Jin is fighting Ogre. At that point, it's too late to be deemed an entry.
Panda - She simply accompanies Xiaoyu to the tournament.
Tiger Jackson - Eddy's alter-ego. What else is there to say?
Sidenote: Bryan sneaks into the tournament. It isn't stated if he actually participates. Since I'm using Tekken 3 only characters and there aren't very many of them, he's in.
Here are my brackets...
Yoshimitsu vs. Lei - Winner: Yoshimitsu
Gun Jack vs. Bryan - Winner: Bryan
Kuma vs. Paul - Winner: Paul
Anna vs. Xiaoyu - Winner: Anna
Jin vs. Nina - Winner: Jin
Law vs. Hwoarang - Winner: Hwoarang
Eddy vs. King - Winner: Eddy
Julia vs. Heihachi - Winner: Heihachi
Lei could take the loss since he's fairly inconsequential to the overall plot.
Same applies to Gun Jack. I know Gun Jack sacrifices himself to save Jane's life, but if Bryan wastes him here, that works too.
As per Kuma's Tekken 4 prologue, it's stated he lost to Paul.
Xiaoyu isn't gonna beat an assassin. Yeah, she beats Nina in Bloodlines, but that doesn't make any sense. Anna gets the win, easy.
Nina losing to Jin is far more acceptable than losing to Xiaoyu. This fight could even perhaps serve as a reason as to why Jin recruits Nina during the events of Tekken 6.
Forest vs. Hwoarang is a throwback to Marshall vs. Baek. Hwoarang wins since Forest is really a throwaway character.
Eddy has an actual gripe with the Mishima Zaibatsu. He entered the tournament to find answers. While I'm not the biggest Eddy fan, Tekken 7 did him a huge disservice. I know King is a fan favorite, I'm a fan as well, but he doesn't add much to the story. King has a bigger plot in Tekken 4 surrounding Marduk.
Julia vs. Heihachi should've took place during the tournament. Yeah, Heihachi's the sponsor, but there's no reason why he wouldn't be participating. He's trying to draw out Ogre and he's one of the strongest fighters on the planet.
QUARTER-FINALS
Yoshimitsu vs. Bryan - Winner: Yoshimitsu
Paul vs. Anna - Winner: Paul
Jin vs. Hwoarang - Winner: Jin
Eddy vs. Heihachi - Winner: Heihachi
I'd plant the seeds for the Yoshimitsu/Bryan rivalry here. Rather than killing Bryan, Yoshimitsu spares him. This gives Bryan a lesson in humility. Especially since his time is limited. Although, this isn't established until Tekken 4.
Anna's just another obstacle in Paul's way.
It's stated that Jin beat Hwoarang during the tournament.
Eddy wants answers about his father's death and comes face-to-face with the head of the Mishima Zaibatsu himself, but is unable to secure the victory.
SEMI-FINALS
Yoshimitsu vs. Paul - Winner: Paul
Jin vs. Heihachi - Winner: Jin
Paul can either win outright or Yoshimitsu can forfeit by simply not showing up. Yoshimitsu is looking for Ogre, anyway. Also, losing to Paul is far more plausible than losing to Anna.
Jin taps into the Devil Gene and overwhelms Heihachi. This fight is the reason why Jin gets shot in the head after he beats True Ogre.
FINALS
Paul vs. Jin - Winner: Paul
It's stated that Paul went undefeated throughout the tournament. Since Paul didn't get to face/beat Kazuya in the previous tournament, this is the next best thing. Of course, it isn't the same. Jin is rendered unconscious, fatigued from tapping into the Devil Gene in the fight prior.
GRAND FINALS
Paul vs. Ogre - Winner: Paul
Jin vs. True Ogre - Winner: Jin
Paul leaves the tournament grounds after defeating Ogre. Unbeknownst to him, Ogre steals Heihachi's energy (who's still unconscious from his fight with Jin), and transforms. Jin recovers, takes on True Ogre, and wins. After the fight, Heihachi shoots Jin in the head just like in the latter's Tekken 3 ending. Of course, just watching the ending made you wonder why Heihachi did what he did, that is until we saw Jin's eyes glow red. In the game, there's really no context prior to the events in terms of Heihachi's motivation. Here, there is. Heihachi saw Jin tap into the Devil Gene and was immediately perceived as a threat that needs to be neutralized.
A lengthy post, but these are my thoughts on how the fights should've gone, peppered with some plot points.
The reason King what the final opponent is a reference to the fact that canonically The original king made it to the last three in the very first Tekken.
Honestly the thing that freaked me out was how similar it was to the live action movie.
I did like Tekken Bloodline but it had some serious flaws that annoyed me, flaws that were mentioned in this video.
I'll add that Julia freaking disappeared. She was there when Jin fought King and then...left? Like, where is she? Why doesn't she go and help fighting Ogre? She didn't even regain the pendent on screen.
Heihachi really went and shot down Jin in front of people? Like it was said in the video, it should have happened in private. And also now several characters know about Devil Jin since they see him at the end of the show but I think that in the games, beside the Mishima and Ogre, only Hwoarang saw Devil Jin and it was during Tekken 5. I could be wrong though.
The show was too short. It reminded me of Devilman Crybaby who couldn't adapt everything from the Devilman manga in 10 episodes and despite its good points, it had flaws because of that (and because of other stuff).
But there's two things I really, really liked:
-King. I especially loved the scene where he was outside of the room where Jin and Xiaoyu discussed about Jin's mother. King was most likely relating to Jin in a way. Though, it bothered me that King's jaguar growls weren't kept.
-The scene where Jin becomes Devil Jin, when he sees Jun and apologise while shedding tears. I felt it. I'm too used to the stoic, almost emotionless Jin, so seeing him so saddened kinda hit me. Though, I wasn't a fan of how he went to beat Heihachi. In his Tekken 3 ending, he only hits him briefly and leaves, and it's in Tekken 4 that he really beats him up and spares him only because of a vision of Jun. In Tekken Bloodline, he barely has any reason to spare Heihachi. Guess he didn't want to be considered a Mishima, idk.
I need to rewatch Tekken: The Motion Picture, been years since I watched it.
Julia disappearing from the screen made me not even pay attention to the rest of the episode because I was sooo confused lmao
Let's say she didn't wanna bother with the fight/ got scared/ or took the distraction as an excuse to look for her mother there should've been at least one shot or a frame indicating why she left.
You can just tell they didn't think everything through 😅😂
Tekken 3 is the embodiment of my childhood and I was super excited to see it animated after all those years. That being said, with all of the wasted potential aside, f**k those square shadows on everyone. Just f**k them. Them and whoever animated this, thinking it will be a good idea. I'd rather have this thing in 2D than this BS.
Nina is supposed to be able to keep up with jin kazuya and heihachi if i remember right and its been awhile but before you fight edgar in death by degrees hes on a video call with heihachi and heihachi laughs and says good luck in a condescending way to edgar after he sees nina is there
Man, Namco for the most part has no luck as far as game adaptations go.
Mirai Ninja is the one I liked the most.
Will say however, this wasn't as bad as Wonder Momo, though.