Duolingo: A Waste Of Time?! Polyglot Gabriel Silva Answers!
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Polyglot Gabriel Silva talks about the pros and cons of Duolingo. Visit the blog at: www.fluentasap.com
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My name is Gabriel Silva; I speak some languages today and I'm going to talk about duolingo once again. I've made a couple of videos about duolingo before, like I said before I do like duolingo, I've used it for several languages and today I'm going to talk about whether it is a waste of time or not. Just because recently I have heard some people say; duolingo is just a waste of time, you're just not going to learn the language with it that you're trying to learn.
So, I disagree and I’m going to talk about some of the pros and cons in this video and I'm going to make my argument as to why I think that duolingo is actually somewhat useful. You know like any specific tool, it has its limitations, you're not going to become fluent using any one single program or tool, that's just the fact, and you have to accept that. And I think that duolingo can be an interesting tool especially at the beginning and sometimes even to review our language like it did with German and French. But I'm going to get started with some arguments against using duolingo.
CONS
First of all, could you be using your time more effectively and a lot of people will say yes. You could using other things for learning a language that are going to be more effective, that are going to teach you more vocabulary or you're going to be able to absorb the language in a more effective way if you use these other tools. And I think it depends really on your level, if you're at the very basic level and you use very effective, but advanced tool, I would argue that it may not be a great idea. But if you have some exposure to an easier, more user-friendly tool, then it may be better first and then later you can use more effective tools...
Duolingo is great to introduce the language to the learner! Once you turn it's tree fully golden, you already can understand some easy RUclips videos made to
learners. This is the right time to leave Duolingo and try videos, podcasts, reading etc. Well... I told my experience.
This is what i found .Its a good jumping board into a language to get you to the point where you can begin to learn from consuming that languages media and having conversations which wont help you without the basics.
How long did it take you to make such a tree golden?
I am currently playing around with a lot of languages on Duolingo and would like to get an idea of how long it will take to complete all of those.
Duolingo is great, but gilding your tree is definitely a waste of time. The lessons get repetitive really fast, and even though they increase somewhat in complexity as you get further along, it's still just a bunch of nonsensical sentences spoken in the same monotone robot voice. Once you get a good grasp of the basics (which Duolingo is great for), it's time to move on to more immersive studying material.
I agree with you
Thanks for your input! For me there is an issue that I am in the need of restarting those courses from time to time. Regarding Chinese for example I did not want to spend to much time on a single unit at the beginning so I concentrate mainly on the "design" of the character, the tone and also a bit on word order and not so much on the meaning of the words/sentences itself, so I allow myself to accumulate flaws until I am no longer able to continue even using the help opportunities which are provided. At the time when there's no point in going any further I go back to the beginning and fill up my lacks of knowledge which by the way will more or less gilden the tree anyways.
Duolingo is FREE, and reading something is always NEVER EVER waste of time. Not to mention we can find other polyglots in discussion section which makes my motivation level always high.
That's totally right. I'm from Colombia and I think Duolingo is a good tool to learn other languages, like English, for example.
Yup; ya get what you pay for. I have no major complaints against Duolingo.
A combination of Duolingo and making my own charts helped me learn how to read Russian proficiently and transliterate any word, that being said I still have a lot of work in Russian left, I take Duolingo slow and use the practice option a lot.
Аксиом97 Yea.... benar ini this is true. Watching and learning other stuff with other apps.
Fucking an octopus is free but it's a fucking waste of time.
Its so amazing how Duolingo took his criticisms and updated the app.. Every feature he criticized they updated.. they got rid of the hearts, they focus the points more on the practice of learning the language by competing between other users, and last but not least they added the repetition of the vocabulary and revisiting mistakes you've been making with the practice button. I love Duolingo, its helped me learn how to structure sentences i want to communicate even in my native tongue. However i do wish grammar and punctuation was fundamental to the language acquisition process in the game.
They must have brought the hearts back since this comment was made, though they've improved many things overall, while simultaneously making awful changes like taking out the forums. They're basically always taking several steps forward and back but still a decent tool.
The question that needs to be asked is "Compared to what?" when discussing whether something is a waste of time. It is a better use of time than watching shit on TV, however compared to other methods it doesn't fare well.
I have no particular problem with Duolingo--hey, it's free and your get what you pay for. I think it is very useful in conjunction with other methods. I'm currently at 66% French fluency but, to be honest, I believe that figure is a bit generous (I'd put my speaking fluency closer to 40%).
My only issue with Duolingo for French--or any other Romance language--is that it is not exceptionally effective in teaching verb conjugations, imo.
'exceptionally effective' does not really add up here. I mean, grammatically speaking it's definitely perfect, though colloquially, I'd have my doubts. I guess you meant to say something in a manner like, that it is not THAT MUCH/TOO/REALLY effective, or ...to keep it formal, 'it is not SIGNIFICANTLY effective in teaching verb conjugation'
Please don't feel patronized, this is just to correct you in a friendly way. So much from me :-)
antonin zachoval I took no offense
Yeah, I agree
PhyZeik I disagree, I think grammar is harder.
Pouvez-vous me donner l’explication de “Romance language” ? Hahah, ça ne veut rien dire.
I love Duolingo for its discussion section
Wolfgirlinfinity same
In my experience if you use the computer version of duolingo you will learn a lot more than the phone. I just spent a month in France with fluent french speakers and I found that although my French wasn't great I was able to use a lot of what I learned and a lot of French people said that I spoke good French. This is also from never taking a french class and only doing Duo for about 7 months.
Went from knowing dirt shit about French to pretty much knowing the whole language, Duolingo I would recommend if you're a beginner. But I would recommend using the computer version instead of the phone app version.
I agree with you.
Nikki Diamond-Christudas y PC version?
I swear man, I see you on like every damn video
I would agree in the past, but presently both the app and desktop versions are very similar. You can also use the mobile web version on your phone which is exactly the same as the desktop version.
The mobile version hasn't yet the grammar notes.
It's never a waste of time as you keep doing something constructive. It's a big difference to use a language app and actually enrich your vocabulary, be it 5 minutes a day or so, rather than playing Farmville on your FB account, which is there for nothing else but virtually bring about brain atrophy to you. And no, I'm not even about to apologize to you Farmville geeks as I only came up with this one as an example to show you can spend your time so much better than playing these "games". Shout out to all Duolingers! :-)
The duolingo stories section is brilliant and a breakthrough on the platform. I don't think duolingo gives a learner an ear and it needs to be supplemented but the stories really work.
I like duolingo. I also like going on foreign language RUclips videos to help me listen. I also use a white board to help my memory. I also have friends who are native speakers that I talk with to help me
MsFlamingFlamer friends?
The Rook hellotalk can connect you to someone learning your language and basically it’s like pen pals and you exchange vocabulary and translate stuff to each other. The app is free.
I find Duolingo to be a great supplement - it provides a good (general) vocabulary review, but - as Gabriel points out - it cannot be the only thing you use.
I took French through the Alliance Francaise - group classes are very good because you will get some conversation with people at about your level, but with an instructor to keep you from teaching each other wrong things (especially reinforcing poor pronunciation). Other input is important too - movies, TV shows, etc. in your target language - as well as books, magazines, and news articles (if reading is important to you).
You can get a lot of input online these days! But - I do find Duolingo to have a place - it really is helping me retain my vocabulary in French as I begin studying another language, and it was good to see grammar concepts show up in a different (yet still structured) environment. The stories are generally good at giving a taste of more natural language usage.
Yes, I totally agree with you. Additional input is extremely important but Duolingo does have a place in language learning too, no doubt! :)
Duolingo is a good introduction to languages I agree,. it also helped me remember some of the French I learned in High School
Use Duolingo & the app called Hello Talk. You need to have someone to talk to in the language ur learning
ace : je fais ça aussi ^^
I will
I like your prioritization of vocabulary idea. Sounds like a great feature that could be added.
I enjoy Duolingo. It’s a great way to practice and keep up with other languages that you’ve learned.
As for the best way to learn a language, it’s hands down and forever will be living in the country that speaks the language that you’re learning.
I served a LDS mission in Panamá for two years. It was around five months I became fluent in speaking, writing, and understanding native speakers.
I believe the moment you start to dream in the language, is the moment you can be considered truly fluent in the language. (Which was around the five month mark for me.)
What a nice balanced Critique. I have been using Duolingo to provide Revision for my German. Duolingo is really good for helping to learn a highly inflected Language like German with its four Cases and three Genders. The only trouble is that it becomes compulsive, but that's probably just me. Thank you.
Thank You, Gabriel!
I think duolingo is good to see if the language you pick is one you can stick with I see people buy expensive books CD and other tools get into a language then change their minds and go start on a different language
I agree it is definitely hard to learn an entire language just off of one app - I think you need to be in the country or with native speakers to really understand the flow of conversation, slang, regional dialects, etc. That said, I did some research today and found a ton of different language learning tools (apps) - The post was on Upgraded Points' website. I'd be curious if people have heard of any of these other apps (check out the post) and if they've been effective. Cheers!
I think the remembrance thing, is about repetition, I remember some of my low level french I learned on there.... 4 years ago. Because you had to do the same thing over and over and yes it was annoying, but like schooling (1st and 2nd grade english) effective.
I've taken Latin, German, and Russian. For some reason items like clothes and food are always some of the first words that books teach, even though those things are rarely useful.
Food is somehing you encounter on a daily basis unless you're a superman able to live on air. You buy groceries daily. Don't get this comment really
antonin zachoval I live in America so anywhere I buy food is going to be in English, and the people I talk to in different languages rarely end up taking about food. It would different if I lived in another country probably, but so far words used for everyday conversation have been much more useful.
Possibly because it's very clear what they mean (a shirt is rarely anything but a shirt and tomato rarely means anything but tomato), are useful when you actually go to a place where it is spoken and maybe because it's something of a tradition, maybe supported by said clarity.
You can buy food easily without knowing one word for it.
Depends on what food and where. At a bakery or farmers market (or something similar) you will do a lot better if you can tell them what you want and some supermarkets put up signs overhead to inform you what is where so knowing the language makes it quite a bit easier to navigate and find what you are looking for.
There are also things like packaging being misleading to foreigners.
The Danes have tonnes of yogurt, sometimes sold in packages that look like they should contain milk, the German word for oil is the same as the one for beer in another Scandinavian language*, the French eat pain for breakfast and all that's just the tip of the iceberg of so called "false friends".
*That is an issue with quite amusing results.
Boa tarde Gabriel. Qual o app que vc sugere apos terminar a árvore do duolingo? Atencisoamente,
I reluctantly learned some french in school and was not interested at all. Fast forward couple of years and duolingo is helping me to revive some of the knowledge i still have in the back of my mind and progress more on my break in the other town until I get home where i have a "teach yourself" textbook waiting for me to return to it. And i think i will use it regularly in the future when i don't really have time to sit down and learn by my textbook. Any practice is good practice in my opinion. I just want to get to a certaiin level of understanding the language when i can slowly immerse myself in it. But for now my first goal - read a children's book i got as a present a while ago)
go to settings and turn off the sound effects. You will get through it a lot easier because you are supposed to make mistakes and that sound is very discouraging
I use the app every day, have 2 hours / week on preply with a tutor and additionally tiny cards as a app for vocabulary. Do this since 2 month to learn Spanish and I am pretty happy with the progress...
Reading up about it, the health system only seems to exist on iOS. The web and android devices don't have this system. Additionally the idea of the system is that if you run out of health you can (according to their website) do lower levels over to regain health. This would give you more practice presumably for the area you had trouble in.
what is the best way to learn languages online that a free no subscription needed and I do not whant to use any books from the library or buy them but do you know any online text books to learn any language?
I do wish Duolingo had an opinion to allow the options to choose what one is interested in learning.
Recently I have been putting into ANKI only what I think I’ll use.
DuoLingo on the phone, i used almost exclusively in the beginning. The health loss helped me FOCUS.
I wouldn't want to rely on Duolingo exclusively or primarily, but it can be okay when combined with other methods.
I am now using Duolingo for learning a few languages. But I still have to figure what exactly to do next to Duolingo. I'm currently watching youtube videos in every language I am learning. Is reading also effective and do you guys have some suggestions?
Eh, after Duolingo Turkish, I can understand perhaps a tenth of a random news article written in Turkish. It would be a major undertaking to get to a point where I could get the gist of the article without having to use a dictionary. Some people swear by it, though.
Now a days I'm using Duolingo to learn Japanese. It's helping me a lot. Yes, the app has its disadvantages but it still being a great tool for learning languages.
I agree with the pros and cons. I started Korean with Doulingo and it has helped me to get used to Hangul and the sentence structure. I have picked up some vocabulary, but I think where I most benefited is with learning sentence structure. The key is to be consistent, like with anything else.
Nicole_the_linguaphile what other ways do you think can help in learning korean?
Gabriel i was 61 yrs old when i discover duolingo on my cell phone & let me tell you something i became addicted to it ,but i tell you something i used other sources to learn portuguese i became motivaded since i was listening to sergio mendes "mais que nada"depois de escutar a garota de ipanema ola que coisa mais linda cheia de graca e la menina que vem e passa com seu doce balanco caminho do mar mosa de corpo dourado por o sol de ipanema com seu balancao e mais que um poema a coisa mais linda que eu vi passar" eu accredito que eu foi motivado pra comencar a falar em portugues ,eu penso que tenho um sotaque mais Brasileiro que o portugues de portugal entao eu preciso de praticar mais falando com pessoas que falam portugues mais eu nao conheco alguem que fala portugues onde eu moro voce seria tao gentil para me dezir outros metodos pra mim para comecar a falar ou melhorar o minho portugues eu penso que portugues e uma lingua muito sensual agradeco primeiramente sua atencao obrigadissimo por suas sugestoes eu gostei muito de seus videos um forte abraco e abencoes pra voce!!
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Boa sorte! Português não é fácil, honestamente as vezes nem sei como uma língua pode ter tanta riqueza de palavras e significados, verbos, formal vs. informal, etc.
For me, Duolingo is a nice free option to learn the basics and essentials of a language, and anything I need to build on in between is like fun patchwork. I learn most of what I do on duolingo, and then proceed onto other methods to polish what I've learned from there if I feel like learning more about that language. Duolingo has a very straightforward method of teaching that I personally love, but it might not be for everyone.
The only complaint I had about Duolingo was that I tried learning French on my own with it. Yes, it was helpful for basic phrases and vocabulary, however it does NOT explain conjugation or grammar. This discouraged me from learning French until I took a class, simply because I couldn't figure out the different between "mange", "mangez", and "mangeons", simply because the app didn't teach the conjugation of verbs, needless to say the conjugations of avoir, être (could be a wrong accent whoops), or aller. I'm even wary of using it for Norwegian now. Useful for vocab, but not grammar.
StarryByNature I disagree. I have been learning French with Duolingo and have found that I have learnt the grammar just fine- yes it doesn't explicitly state rules anywhere but that's not how Duolingo works anyway. Having to use correct grammar to write a sentence helps you pick it up pretty quickly. I found reading the comments helpful for grammar learning if I wasn't sure about something from the lesson
I felt like it didn't explain conjunctions too! I am learning spanish and at the beginning I was getting very frustrated because I didn't know why word endings change. Now that I am further along with actual Spanish classes I now know. I think duolingo is better paired with another form of learning.
Je MANGE : I eat
Vous MANGEZ : You eat (vous = one respected person or several persons)
Nous MANGEONS : We eat.
It is all about learning by heart. Try Latin, Italian, Spanish -> same pronouns, same words, same everything. It is not hard! I don’t understand.
I wonder what you would think of Duolingo now that they've implemented the Crowns system.
I have found Gabriel Silva's discussion most interesting, as I have helped a friend in "particular", for a reason that it is somewhat unusual.Since he likes to travel to Zanzibar, where Swahili is the language of the government (there are some 100+ tribal languages), we decided that he would get a double benefit by learning as an English speaker (which he somewhat learnt rudiments at school, being an Italian). It was surprising how well he coped. Since I grew up in Arusha (Tanzania) from the age of 10, I helped him with both, for pronunciation, and verification. He finished, and now he is doing the Spanish one.
I have returned to Italy since 1990, and I decided to brush up my French, that I had learned in East Africa, before going to university.
The French is better of the two for hearing the spoken part, but both suffer when (not all) males speak. with some of the Swahili actually reading something completely different to the written sentence, and in French it would sometimes be impossible to hear the individual Words for non French persons as he reads too fast even for a French friend. Compliments instead to the female speakers.
With others I am following, I have a very positive opinion of this tuition.
I had Spanish class as a kid and have tried Spanish and Japanese using audio tapes. I know just a few words of each. I'm studying Esperanto on Duolingo and have learned more in a month than I ever did with the others methods. I have an Esperanto lesson book, and it starts so heavily with grammar, it is useless to me. I will likely never be fluent, but for the first time in my life, I actually have a chance at learning a second language.
Tip: Use the subtitle of the language you want to learn in movies/series.
Dr Alchemy before or after learning some of the language? I don’t see how watching a Russian show with Russian subtitles teaches me anything if I don’t knowna single word of Russian. However, watching a French or German series with Fr/Ge subs for me would be beneficial as I already know some French and German
Adam J i recommend first watching a movie/ series in your target language, you used the example of Russian. turn on english subtitles after i’d say you know some basic words and how the alphabet sounds. immersion works by your subconscious picking up words and sounds based on the context of the scene. so you may not realize or feel like you learned something, but subconsciously you’re picking things up. hope this helped!
Emilee Stevens thanks!
Adam J of course, good luck!!
regarding "loosing health" issue, i think it is a positive thing because it encourages you to repeat the previous lessens while you are waiting for your health to be full again. also there is heart sign somewhere on your screen, if you click on it, it allows you to practice and for each practice in effect you re-claim one health sign
Shiva Pazoki you can even gain health back by hitting the practice button.
Shiva Pazoki "Losing health?" That feature isn't on my phone. I have the app.
There are always problem in audio system of Duolingo... and you cannot send them feedback...
4:15 for everyone listening, they have implemented stories which you can read along and follow, then answer the correct quiestions about what was happening in the story. I think Duolingo is great for anyone not able to speak with a fluent speaker (or teacher) or spend money.
The new update made it a lot better to learn.
I've been using duolingo to learn italian and in two months I learned A LOT. Of course I also use google to research and youtube to watch native Italian vloggers speaking. I beleive that when I'm done with duolingo's lessons I will have a pretty strong base on the language to keep going on my on.
Duolingo is a learning sight where I’m learning French and it really helped me I’m now speaking great French that’s your opinion and it’s helping other people if u make mistakes that’s ok u people r just getting 😠 mad u can’t do that u have to learn u can’t get everything right so how can u be mad u just don’t like duolingo that’s all and don’t post stuff like this
Good video, very informative and helpful. I have been using Duolingo for 100 days to revise my French which is now ~B2. I mostly agree with your comments as I have found it useful. However, I found some definite cons.
I often did not remember words, or their gender, after doing all the lessons with that word. I think this is because the word stayed in short term memory. Repeating a word many times in a short time frame is not very useful, it needs to be over days or weeks. For me flash cards are a much quicker and more effective way to learn vocabulary.
I am a native British English speaker and it is common for me to not understand an English phrase, and hence I am unable to translate it without seeing the answer. This is because they use phrases specific to America.A good example is “My car has no more battery” which to me means someone has taken the battery. What they mean is that the battery is dead ie out of charge. Another example is “I will wash up” which in England means I will wash the dishes, but in America it means I will wash myself. Thus the meaning is quite different.
The last issue is that Duolingo has gone full woke. The French course is set in France, and apparently about half of the French are homosexual. Well I honestly do not believe that. There are other woke aspects too. I would rather they depicted reality rather than a woke paradise, it’s a French course dammit, not political propaganda ie identity politics. Please note that I support gay rights, gay marriage, and I oppose racism, but a French course isn’t the place to push this in such an extreme manner.
Lastly I tried the German course. I knew no German, and after about three weeks, 20-30 minutes a day, I gave up. It was driving me round the bend. I must have translated ja to yes and back at least twenty times. The same goes for nein, Hallo, Wasser and so on. Honestly, I am not an idiot, and I think they seriously misjudged the level. I have moved to Mosalingua German which seems to be better, and it uses spaced repetition in a better manner than Duolingo.
I am a Chinese,i can understand you in English due to the English lessons in my school years. I am trying to understand Japanese as well by learning it in duolingo. I guess its not gonna be easy. Hopefully I wont give up.
Well I would like to add some input.. Duolingo isn't really meant to take your time with but this is also with any language tool out there.. you actually learn faster by for example:
Run through Duolingo and get through the tree as fast as possible while looking up grammar points ~2-3 months.
Switch to memrise and get an intermediate level set for whatever language and speeding through it as fast as Duolingo(no need for premium) ~ 4 months. (Continue looking up grammar points)
After this, it's just sentence mining and exposure to the language. Speak, read, watch videos, and keep an app like anki to record any sentences that you come across that are hard to remember. Review anki daily and keep adding exposure (you can also download sentence mining decks already created in anki) this step varies based on how quick you are able to connect the dots... I would assume 6 months to around 2 years but remember within even the first few months of this you will be fully conversational but not fluent and the fluency part is the 6 months to 1 year.
Now this is just an example and the hardest part of any language is breaking from beginner to intermediate levels, there are far more tools and options out there but your end game should always be exposure and sentence mining. Sentence mining just helps your brain recall grammar points and sentence structure.
You could completely skip duolingo and just use memrise but the reason I do it that way is for variety, if you switch to another program after finishing 1 it helps you stay motivated longer.
Hope this helps some of you and if you disagree let me know 😁
Oh and learning is different for everyone, textbooks can also be helpful and other sources/ methods
I have enjoyed using Duolingo to help me learn Scottish Gàidhlig. I can’t afford to do the main course taught from Isle of Skye. I find I am very good in the short term but I can never remember what I did six weeks ago. So I need to find techniques to help me do that.
It is far from perfect but it is well structured. I do not feel confident enough to try some of the techniques that the so called experts use.
I agree, there are much more effective ways to do it. I guess if you don’t have any other materials on hand other than DuoLingo then it might not be a waste of time in that specific moment, but pretty much anything else is better than an app IMO.
Vocab with context, compare yourself with other users... Very basic phrases..... I love it. Thanks for sharing your opinion 👍
I have started to improve my french with duolingo. I have got some questions. Are you still here under this channel?
Yes :)
I use Duolingo for Japanese. I learned all of Hiragana (one of the alphabets...sorta) within a week by just taking my phone with my on several long walks.
Hey! What other tools do you recommend? I've heard a lot of people use flashcards but I'm not really into them haha. I know it depends on the person but I want to learn a lot of different languages and I feel like I don't know what to do sometimes
I started using Anki for flashcards. It's downloadable and easy. You can use pictures with it too, and they have, in many languages, apparently, stacks you can download for free--all of it's free! I don't like regular flashcards. I recommend the Foreign Service Institute's audio program, and Pimsleur. Also, good language books off of Amazon that have many and high ratings. RUclips, for listening.
I was hooked on Anki decks but recently found out about Clozemaster. Try it, you won't regret it. It's free, online/app, uses frequency lists and SRS... just brilliant. I recommend it.
Try Linguaphone audio course. It's brilliant. I also suggest Clozemaster and of course standard textbooks for consolidating (Assimil, Teach yourself, Routledge series are freaking awesome...).
Brando Hernández memrise
I use Duolingo to learn Italian. I think it's very good as a tool for a beginner but it doesn't provide tools for speaking practice. I think after a few months, you should shift to iTalki or some other language learning method that provides a lot of practice in speaking and conversational skill. But Duolingo provides a good introduction to a foreign language.
I might be a bit late. Just let me know please, if i can understand 90-95 % of what you said in the video, is duolingo can be considered useful for me. Best regards and thanks in advance,
do you know clozemaster?
I would have never even gotten to my day 83 (today) without memrise for Duolingo vocabulary, fluent forever and RUclipsr Linguistix. The biggest vocab asset is music with transliteration & subtitles on the screen and lyricstranslate.com. The app sucks too, no tips or notes (no microphone in my course). Except for the groups, that you can't use in the website.
duolingoは結構いいんです。最近はフランス語を勉強しってて、一ヶ月ぐらいは理解するをできるようになりました。Je peux aussi écrire un peu mais avec quelques des problémes.
I think Duolingo by itself is a good tool to be used in conjuction with other methods and techniques like solely listening to netflix series or movies with subtitles. Though duolingo being used wisely can be a bless for anyone willing to progress fast in any language, but doing it the right way.
Well I don't think it's a waste of time because it helps you to be comfortable with a language which is very important. It also let you set the pace of leaning which again helps not to burden yourself up. For grammar just finish the Duolingo course with its tips and then download grammar pdf of the language you are leaning and it becomes really easy to understand it.
I think Duolingo is the best for starting a language from scratch with its simple user interface, baby-step lessons and clear cut objectives. May be not the most effective but one of the most predisposing and motivating apps for a complete beginner. Off course it's far from enough on its own and from a certain level your learning time can be spent more productively, especially if you like many people start chasing points and competing in the charts by doing endless repetitions of the same lessons.
Do you think memrise is better?
I've tested my CECRL level in Spanish yesterday and it turned out I'm B1, only with duolingo. A little B1 but still a B1 so in my opinion Duolingo is fine and it's working, but I would advise anyone who'd want to use Duolingo to do it on smartphone because on computer the program is way much more repetitive and utterly boring.
Plus Duolingo isn't really homogenous, some language courses are just broken (Swahili for example)...
I am using Duolingo for a while but at times it's boring coz it's repetitive. But I guess it's required to be memorable.
Honestly the language program being used just depends on the person cuz we all learn differently!😉🙃🙂😛😜😝😋😅😂🤣
It can provide an introduction to the language, but you need to use it from day one. Start with short stories written for kids and learn the whole story one by on. Keep learning as you read and listen, but never stop exposing yourself to the language. This way what you learn gets used immediately. :)
If you are losing your health, you don’t have to buy to continue learning. Just do some practice then you’ll gain a bar of health. Practice can work as a review and it’s great. It doesn’t give you any progress on the tree but you are still getting some exp.
Hey gabriel, I would like to have you on my Duolingo contact list...
Duolingo is not a waste of time. I'm started learning English with Duolingo app and today I'm able to understand you,but of course that actually i'm using other methods to improve my English skills. I extremely recommend Duolingo app if you are beginner :)
When finished with duolingo, SpeakTribe is good for Spanish.
I am going to have to disagree with some of your points. When a person uses duolingo they start the language like a child would. You learn what things are around you, something common in the world then it starts getting into more advanced terms and skills like pronouns, verbs, and sentence structure. It only becomes ineffective if the user doesn't go out and talk to native speakers or read/ write in the new language(s). The last thing is if you sit there for 14 hours and learn a language in just one session you will not learn much, it is up to the user to spread the time throughout weeks if not months.
I absolutely agree that there is not enough listening and talking, there is way too much typing, so much so, that I developed arthritis.
The fact also that some users are getting 10,000 xp in a day by cheating shows some see it as more of a competition opposed to a pleasant introduction to languages for many. I just complete the Gaelic course and for new learners to Gaelic, it is great for audio. Duolingo is fun and I actually have plus, but it won’t make you fluent - you have to work hard for that.
Well what are the other tools???
Books
Duolingo is good if you use it as one of many tools for learning the language
I spent hundreds of hours, with limited results, on various methods. On the computer DuoLingo has much more to offer.
Today, im on a 170 day streak on level 2.5 and have no intentions of missing a day. I have a fair compression of listening to Spanish music but my reading and understanding it much better.
All IMHO.
I’ll be honest half the time I make mistakes on duolingo it’s in English...which as a native speaker is just embarrassing.
Also, I would use your computer for Duolingo.
When I use duolingo, I write every sentence I learn, duolingo is fine
Enesettin Hüseyin i do too. im one of those learners that has to write things down for my memory to fully work. plus, having good writing skills in your target language is always beneficial
I just didn't like duolingo because the sentences didn't make any sense. I was getting my answers marked wrong even though I was given the correct answer.
Now I'm using Lingodeer and I'm finding it much more helpful.
i think i am going to give duo a rest for a while....i think it takes up too much time to get little results
I just learned English with duolingo btw. :D
(Okay, at least, I can make English people understand me, even if I make some mistakes.)
*Edit: mistakes :,D
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I learned Spanish from years of school and free time study, so an app isn't a miracle potion to learn a tongue instantly. That being said, duolingo isn't structured that well, and I'd go to a RUclips lecture series instead.
¡Buena suerte con sus estudios, chicos!
Duolingo est trés encroyable, j’ai etudé francais et je parle une peu francais au maintenant.
THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY : c'est génial et moi aussi , je parle le Français un peu ^^ essayer utilises cet application s'appelle 'HelloTalk' c'est incroyable ^^
THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY
I understood that
damn that's motivating me even more to not give up learning French ty!
Je étudie français avec Duolingo aussi et ça m'a aidé à comprendre des vidéos, des potcasts et des textes!
J’ai étudié français et je parle un peu français au maintenant
I studied French and I speak a little French now. I think this is what you meant to say. So here is how you should have written your sentence:
J'ai étudié le français et je parle maintenant un peu français.
I personally tried to start learning Japanese with duo lingo, I found I understood nothing. So I ended that, and began immersion learning. I mean, immersion is good for some, and bad for others. So I’d say If you are wanting to know a few sayings and things, use duolingo.
What I find with language learning (or anything really) you’re only being productive if you’re finding it hard. Which makes sense, you don’t lift tiny weights if you’re already ripped. So as long as you’re finding it hard i.e. you’re a beginner it’s fine, but once you’re getting most answers right apart from some slips you should move on.
Gabriel Silva ma man!
Hahaha hey man! How’s it going
Mr. Gabriel, I think household usually means the people in a house, apartment, etc.--not the things in a house.
Nothings ever a waste of time.
Luis von Ahn, computer science professor, crowd-sourcing pioneer, entrepreneur, started Duolingo because he wanted to create a way for people to learn languages for free. Duolingo now has 40 million users. I think it is a great way to learn a language. Of course, it cannot be your only resource. Immersion in the language of your choice inside the country is still the best way. But for those of us who want a working knowledge of a foreign language and can't shell out a lot of money, Duolingo can't be beat.
The biggest minus for me is in the Russian language: There's no speaking exercise at all for Russian!
In addition, I completely agree with the lack of listening exercises as well.The biggest
WES hi Wes. I am learning Russian but my native language is Spanish. Would you, or anyone here, be interested in language exchange. Please let me know. Thanks
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Também não acho que o duolingo seja um desperdício de tempo porque 70 que tenho do conhecimento do francês e inglês veio pelo duolingo
Sim, Eu estou aprendendo português em Duolingo, é já seí muito.
O duolingo para mim foi muito ultil para a minha escrita e leitura em inglês.
Agora se vc quer ir para outro nivel do speakig e lisenimg procure outras plataformas que a internet oferece de monte.
Scarlett Begonia Keep it up
continue e boa sorte.
Does anyone here who speaks French need to practice their English or Spanish? I speak, write, and read fluently in English and Spanish.
It's almost impossible to learn a language with one app, somehow u all of a sudden search for some videos or anything about that language and u get curious of learn more and more about that language and when you see u already got a lot of "source" or something like this, yeah u know
Marco Antonio it's almost impossible to learn any language, new words are added to the dictionary every day
3:50 this is only when u use the really bad mobile version. Desktop is SOOOOOOO much better
Hi just subbed. Learning Russian. Thanks for the tips.
Eduardo Henrique you learning Russian?
@@marietrini7784 yep :D
Eduardo Henrique cool 😎 what’s your native language? Mine is Spanish and English.
@@marietrini7784 Portuguese
I disagree too. Exactly it's a useful tool.
I also wonder about how you use it.. I think it's likely people don't practice with it. It d be a bit tough doing Korean ( I'm doing ) without some study of writing n a few words first. Also those who know little about language learning would be helped by the structure. ( The structure I have some issues with. But it's a relatively easy use program. ) Meanwhile, if you ARE an experienced language learner can self manage what they need and why n when.