Pleco's In Pond...BAD IDEA!!!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Hey everyone...if you've been following my channel for a while now you'll know that one of my favorite summer traditions is to add aquarium fish to my pond, its sort of a vacation for them. This season I added 4 Brsitle nose pleco's, 1 Royal pleco, 1 Tropheus Duboisi cichlid and 1 Tinfoil barb....and I can't catch them!
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Try putting a vase in instead of the rocks.
The plecos should hide inside and then you can pick up the whole thing with them in it.
I was able to catch them by draining the pond...I'll try that in the future
So true
That is a crazy idea.. Very cool ! I can see the difficulty for sure though !!
Thank you, yes no more pleco's in the pond!
Water heater bro, it will save you the hassle
It would be cool...but too 💲💲💲💲
You can run heaters in your pond in the winter
Yes I can, but the experience might be too much for me!
DWSDARIUS FISH TANKS how do you mean to much for you
The electric bill...okay so the pond is +/- 1000 gallons...I would need 5-6 heaters (the heaters sold for ponds are just de icers...so they only heat the pond enough to keep it from freezing which is 33 Degree's F)...They would most likely run endlessly if their fighting temps between 25F to -10F...and the would probably add up to a extra $50 a month....and that's on top of the expenses for my fishroom!
DWSDARIUS FISH TANKS oh ok I see my electric company has really cheap prices lol
DWSDARIUS FISH TANKS you can get by with 2 big heaters
One of those "What could go wrong?" ideas..........Face mask and snorkel, then you'll see better. Good Luck Buddy. :)
Lol, yup! I was just about to buy goggles just for this!
If you can get a clear view underwater and still breathe, problem solved and a cool video. Scuba diving with Plecos. LOL. :)
it took me a week to catch my common pleco out of my pond. it is best to try at night as the plecos will be active and the sun wont create glare on the water so you can see it better. it was easier for me though because my pond is smaller and has less hiding places then yours. good look though!! if only they knew you were trying to save them from freezing. im sure it would be a lot easier then lol
Lol, yes if only they new! I'm going to take out most of the rocks and try again at night! Thanks for the input
Looks like you may need to drain some of the water to catch them.
Yeah I wanted to avoid that but right now that looks like my only option
Your koi are so beautiful, I dream of having a pond similar to this soon
Thank You, its easy to build and very enjoyable!
I put some excess platy fry in my pond during summer. Thought I got them all out but as soon as I added some goldfish 2 came out of hiding and started swimming with the goldfish. They are really hard to catch in a pond and really good at hiding from your line of sight :/
Pleicos are very hard to catch. Perhaps use a five liter vinegar bottle trap and place a small heater inside along with some algae pellets. Don't you think they'll seek it out when the temperature starts to drop. Drill perhaps like twenty 2mm holes for circulation, that they not suffocate...
I never thought of that, I'm sure they are probably looking for warmer temps when it drops to the 60's....I'll give it a shot! Thanks for the suggestion
DWSDARIUS FISH TANKS You are of course most welcome, let's just hope it works and please tell us. I've been busy making trickle filters for all my aquariums, because the first one was such a huge improvement: In less than a week the algae tufts on my plants (not a big problem, but annoying) vanished. The reproductive rate of my shrimp went way up and the growth of my fry increased markedly. The water is almost eerily clear, too. It was slightly brown from large roots, but tricking seems to break down tannins as well...
I have a sneaky suspicion the huge benefits of trickle filters is played down somewhat by professionals in the trade...
I notice all commercial breeders use them and isn't it a little strange, too, that no plug and play aquariums come with trickle filters, only those high output pumps with ineffective sponge filters? My new toolbox trickle filter only use a 3 watt pump, yet cleans much, much better than the 35 watt came with the tank.
This is a very entertaining thing to do with tropicals in the summer. I highly recommend it also, from personal experience.
Fish love it!
Chris Kibodeaux why?
I would try removing the decorations, and get in there with 2 nets... good luck!
Thank you, doing that tonight!
I used to live in a foot hills town in Nevada that gets cold in the winter. One guy there had a huge, natural pond he kept plecos in. He brought one to me because I expressed interest in one. It was a good 2 feet long, my tank was 20 gallon so of course he took his pleco back home. My point is that apparently they can take cold weather.
Hold cold of a winter? I'm in NJ and my pond freezes over every season!
I was talking to my husband about it after I commented. I gets snow storms some winters in Pahrump Nv. His pond was fed by a natural spring and it very well could have been a warm spring. There are many in that area. So yes Darius do what you feel is best for your plecos.
It's the worst when u just can't catch the fish...lol I know this all too well
This is one example of a master fish keeper! Great video and fun catching! Those guys are huge! So how fast did your cichlids grow in that pond?
Thank You! I just pulled the tropheus duboisi out last night and he grew a inch in the month he was in there, my venustus last year grew a inch in there too, but he doesn't even eat algae so it must have been because of all of the space!
DWSDARIUS FISH TANKS man that is freaking awesomeness!!
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Great pond! When we took apart our first outdoor pond the common pleco we had put in there was huge! They are hard to catch. ☺️
Thank You, yes its amazing how fast they grow...and how fast they are when its time to catch them!
So when is best to put pleco in pond I live in Wales UK I was going to take them out in end September is April a good time to put them in for the summer months??
It depends on the weather, once temps are consistently above 74-76°F (23-25°C). For me thats around May
Just think of it as a water change before winter sets in. I do my koi pond water change at the end of summer and clean filters I have been doing this for 8 years and never lost a koi. I have a RUclips channel check it out if you want to.
Thank you, yes it'll probably benefit the fish more then stressing them out!
I love your koi with the black head and whiter body!
Thank you, believe it or not when I bought him he was brown and black! He turned all white, then black and white, all white again and now he's at this current pattern!
Should tame your fish with food that way you won't remove slime coat when your netting them oh BTW use a barnacle shell bristle nose cats love to breed in them and rarely swim out of em easy catch
Barnacle shell...I'll give that a try! Thanks for the suggestion
remove all the decorations and put in a pleco cave with one side capped off
You could try an make a barricade blocking off a section an lower water level or a bigger bottle trap good luck
Thank you, I drained the pond and caught them that way!
Dude those are the fattest ancistrus I've ever seen. Great job beefing them up! I bet they'll spawn outstanding quantities of fry.
Yes they are, my female is very plump she should be ready to breed a lot!
But pleco caves in there ... Wait take um out with them inside ....easy.
Nice tip, don't know why I didn't think of that earlier! Thanks
I just dropped some pleco in our outdoor pond and now realize they're dead come winter... woops. It's an algae wonderland out there, so at least these several month of their lives will be amazing!
You can always buy a submersible heater. Try to get one where you can set the degree you want
That's great idea, except that the pond is almost 3 acres and there are no electrical lines that far back on our property. Well, it's better than dying in a fish tank!
Bristlenose plecos max out at 4-5 inches, they are a smaller breed of pleco
Yes and that's why they grow so slow!
I’ve found that placing slices of cucumbers or zucchini in a net or container works great! Just use something to weigh the veggies down in the net, come back an hour later, and lift the net out of the water! They are a sucker for veggies and it makes the process much less stressful!
Thanks for the tip...I'll have to give that a try next time, if I decide to do it again
Wow! What an adventure! It's hard enough trying to catch plecos in an aquarium. I can't imagine trying to capture them in a pond. Great video, though. I really like that big black & white koi you netted for a moment. All your koi are looking happy and healthy. Here's hoping you can catch the rest of the stragglers before the weather gets too cold.
Thank You, these pleco's are pushing my fish keeping skills to the limit! That koi is the biggest of all my koi, originally from petsmart at 4" about 4 years ago!
Bigger trap. IMHO they work better. Get you a large minnow or perch bait trap.
add a pond heater and problem solved. I keep 3 to 4 500 watt heaters in my pond during winter. It works great and fish stay happy. The coldest I let water get in winter is high 60’s/ low 70’s through winter. My tropical fish do fine in it at that but no lower then that will I let it go. depends on the fish though.
Do you keep koi/goldfish with them? If so do they not hibernate?
Where can I get a pond heater?!! I’ve been looking and can only find de-icers. I have a 300 and a 200 watt aquarium heaters in my pond now (for the plecos I can’t catch) but it makes me nervous and I have no idea if they’re even effective. 😅
Add some cucumber to the fish trap...they can't resist it.
Yes someone else just recommended the same, I'll give it a try...thanks!
Block off the area in which they are then remove any rocks etc then try to catch them
My pond has a odd perimeter so its hardly to completely block of sections, but I'll remove the rocks and lower the water level and that should work
Those pleco's are very smart man. Have you try using two nets one smaller then the other to guide them into the big net. Thanks for sharing.
Thank You, I haven't tried the double net, but when I think about it, it should work considering they don't just immediately take off, they hesitate and that's where the two nets could work
Your pond is beautiful but a huge part is because the Plecos keep the bottom clean. I live in NJ (36-45 average winter temperature)- do you know anyone who keeps their Plecos in outdoor ponds year round? They seem to love it.
I thought you put a common pleco in your pond and it got massive
I did years ago...this season I added bristle nose plecos and had a hard time catching them!
You really need to drain the pond down and you can easily catch them. Your stressing yourself and your fish too much this way!
I usually use Soda bottle fish traps for fish that are hard to catch
I caught one with the soda bottle trap...the rest are too smart!
Did you try using a red light at night, a lot of fish can't see red light so you have an advantage if you want to sneak up on them.
Never knew that, I'll have to try it
Yeah, I have a big synodontis catfish who is pretty shy and when i turn the light on he swims back to his hiding spot but If i shine a red light near him he will stay where he is.
you are going to have to get all the rubble at the bottom out then drain it to catch them
in my pond I always put it red swordtails they breed alot and are pretty
Yes that's the hard way but it may be all I have left, thanks
DWSDARIUS FISH TANKS
it might take you all of 2 hours your pond is small compared to some
Try some blanched spinach or zucchini.
I have some zucchini on hand so I'll try that, thanks for the suggestion
LOL....3 hours......did somebody serving you coffee or something to keep you entertain?? I normally catch my cichlid at dark time when they are normally sleeping listless. Easy, they even dont realise they already in the net. So try that on duboisi. But being a black fish, that makes your job a bit harder. Pleco trap is nice idea tho
Lol, when your so in to the hunt you don't notice time flying by...I'll have to remove the rocks from the pond because he sleeps under them; thanks for the tip
I am so sorry they are giving you a hard time saving them from freezing. LOL I wish you the best of luck catching the remaining Pleco's. Thanks to people like you who share their knowledge, I won't make the same mistake in the future. I would never be able to catch them. On a more positive note, your pond is awesome and your fish are beautiful.
Thank you! Yes lesson learned...NEVER add small species of pleco, I've had success with common pleco's because they grew almost to 1ft...but these little guys are too fast!
Why not let nature take its course. Let em live how they want lol and buy a pond heater lol
Even in SoCal, my small pong dipped to about 48 degrees. I put an 800 watt heater in. Found on amazon
I only put large plecos in my koi pond cause of the fact that they're easy to catch
Yes if I ever do it again I'm gonna choice a species that gets big!
Awesome pond and awesome idea! Can you do a video on how the pond was built? I want to expand my pond next year. Right now I have a small pond. It's one of those drop in ponds about 100 gallons or so. I have comets in there right now but this year I inherited 12 more off a plant I bought that had eggs stuck to it. They're growing out in my basement right now in a small 20 gallon barrel.
Thank You, I have video of the build process, not the best but you can get the idea:
;: ruclips.net/video/N9DUijvoIVA/видео.html
DWSDARIUS FISH TANKS thanks Darius. Thank you for always answering my questions! I've learned so much from you and from your channel. Your vids are very informative.
This is a great idea. Your pond looks great. When you are introducing the fish into the pond, which is likely colder than your aquarium, how do you do it to avoid too much shock to them?
With a Tube like a pleco home only longer. Thats the way i catch they out of my pond .
Thanks, yes your the second to suggest that, I'll try
You can heat your pond over the winter
I can, but it'll be too expensive for me
Are you running UV in your filters?
Yes
Use the clear box with the top open
Yes he'll probably swim right in, thanks!
I am so jealous of your pond! I made my self my own pond inn front of my house but it is not enough.. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you, my koi are getting so big...now mine isn't enough!
Plecoes love zucchini squash. I microwave 1.35 then cool in ice water then zucchini sinks to bottom.
Thoroughly enjoyed watching this video. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Best bet to get them out is draining the water down real low and get them that way. Trust me them plecos are evasive little turds. I love my two common plecos because they’re so happy in my pond. I also have a blue phantom pleco in my 110 gallon tank. Absolutely beautiful fish, highly recommend getting one or two.
I’ve been there Darius it’s nearly impossible you need two people 2 nets to have a chance or traps as you did lolll
Yes those pleco's move like light!
so why exactly is it a bad idea to keep plecos with koi? because you can't catch them? that's not exactly a valid reason. not everyone keeps fish in ponds like that, some of us keep them in IBC totes which are a piece of cake to drain and don't have a zillion hiding places so really I don't see the big deal. Are there any valid reasons why plecos would not get along with small goldfish and baby koi.
give me a real reason not a lame one.
What camera do you use?
In this video I used a canon t6i but recent videos I use the sony a6400
What are the parameters of your pond? I thought African cichlids needed really hard water?
i feel the frustration man. But damn your pond is awesome!!!!!
lol, yeah it sucks, I'll never add these types of fish again!
DWSDARIUS FISH TANKS I like the vacation idea tho
It would be nice for them in terms of space and food, but the catching part becomes stressful for both me and the fish
Put in heaters in the winter
The size of the pond would require several heaters which would be too expensive for me!
The bristlenose pleco is one awesome fish!!! I love em... they are extremely intelligent for a fish, and fast... i have some and they are awesome... they love the tail whip... they use it to dart through the water, position themselves (which makes me chuckle every time), and bat other fish away ftom thier alge pellets... they also charge head first at em a lot too... love them fish, but you ain't going to catch them without a fight...
Lol yes it been a fight alright! They are very cool fish...I thought camouflage was their main tool but they have a lot more tricks up their sleeves!
@Sunako Kirishiki what are you trying to communicate??? As far as freshwater aquarium fish, plecos are pretty smart... just ask this guy who spent all day trying to catch two of them...
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Go in with goggles and a smaller long net, u should have scooped up the whole lot rocks and all, then slowly removed the rocks from the net leaving the plecos.
Where are you located?
New Jersey
How long u had your pond
This current setup has been running since 2014...but some of the fish came from my older pond that my father started back in 2005
I set mine up where I can get between the morning sun and the pond. No glare. Or try some polarized sunglasses maybe. Or a submersible light. You could also try putting a vessel in the tank with some wafers in it. Less work, more patience.
I don’t know if your still doing this or not but if you are try using a red light fish can’t see in red light at night time
Why my placo fish floats in the top of the water ? / My outdoor pond will get green soon why?
Add a wolfish
Yeah and the next video I post will be about my eaten limbs!
small yabbie trap's work well
Yabbie trap...I look that up! Thanks for the suggestion
Yeah after checking it out it does look effective
try a large water bottle trap, add string so you can pop it out to check, easy fishing
I would have lowered the water I do believe it would be easier to catch them
Yes, less swimming space...I originally wanted to avoid that so that my koi and goldfish wont get too stressed...but that's my only choice now!
Unless you live in the tropics it's a bad idea to put five in. We put four in my school's koi pond. We wound up having to drain the pond to get them back. The next year we only did one so we weren't having to drain everything.
Yes that's something I'll never do again...not with such a small species any way...larger growing pleco's might be easier to catch
Drain out 1/2 of water to make catching easier. Late summer/early fall is a dry time of the year anyway, so water your plants with nutrient-rich water. Win-win!!
Thanks, yes I drained it and was able to catch them!
I'd let fall leaves grass muck etc build up n just add a single submersible heater in deepest part on or in cinder block/hollow log, and my butterfly plecos etc bred in my pond in WI, before took out because as get big they get territorial and aggressively chase and actually stab other fish besides chinchids with side fins (lost koi pacu piranha etc that way, but they clean chinchids spawning wounds up great).
Not a bad idea...I just need to find a goo heater! Thanks for the suggestion
I had to move house in January and it was a 20+ hr drive with overnight stay at motel. I decided that the only fish I would take with me were my bristlenose and sailfin Pleco. They were in a small container of water in the back of a van with no heating, it was freezing cold outside with snow, and the aquarium water was ice cold for most of the trip. I thought there was no way that they would be alive on arrival but sure enough both were alive and well, remarkably cold tolerant fish.
Wow...well looks like mine may have to be tested this winter too
how many times have you been "barbed" while handleing these beauties? i had a 10 inch common spotted pleco that would "barb" my husband every time he tried to catch him.... the cutey pie would just glide right into my hand when i had to move him out for a tank scrubbing. I dont like leaving the bigger ones in while i scrub when i have a big tank due to stressing them out! :D fish are people too and you seem to know that.
Yes they have quite the attitudes! Mine are more willing to barb me rather then make things easy!
Live in central Florida. 1,700 gallon pond in my rear screened room. Added two 3"-4" plecos 4 years ago. They winter-over fine. Now they are 15"+. The only down-side is "I suspect' they feed on the Koi & Gold fish spawns. My biggest mistake was adding 4 Platinum Sailfin Mollies 4 years ago. They too winter-over fine. PROBLEM is, I now have 400-500 mollies, swimming around.
Last spring I introduced 2 small angels in the hope of culling the fry. Worked well but could not remove them in the early winter. Did remove two very large angels when they floated up in Jan.
Any suggestions for controlling my mollie hoards would be appreciated.
Anyone want free platinum mollies?
Wow!
Nice pond bro
Thank You
U take good care of your fish, and so gentle with them too.
Kudos to the trap method. Dude, I have no patience cathing difficult fish...NONE! You're a better man than me for taking a lot of your time for that. Maybe buy or make a larger inexpensive fish trap suited for plecos so you don't lose too much time catching one per day...or week. Anyway, what the hell do I know, I'm just trying to make it way easier for you. Good Luck my man, and please let us know your ultimate solution👍🏾.
Thank you...its a good thing I didn't use the original audio from the clips...I was mad! Another commenter recommended just simply adding pleco caves and they should eventually just go in it! I'll see if its that simple
After reading through the comments, firstly I think you are very fortunate to be able to keep tropicals outside even in the height of summer, and secondly I would set up 5 or 6 bottle traps with different baits. Cucumber should work well.
Thank You, yes here in NJ our summers average temperatures are between 80F-90F...and that last for 3-4 months! I'll add a few more traps with cucumbers in different locations of the pond
DWSDARIUS FISH TANKS good luck :)
I have Plecos but they all quite small right now. Getting ones that’s about 14 inches to add to my Oscar tank. But if he outgrows the he’s going in the pond. Not expecting him to grow that fast since he’ll be in a tank. I’ve noticed the ones I got in tanks grow slower. But hopefully by the times he gets really big I’ll have my own place which will be a couple years down the road and a massive tank for him
Provide a lot of veggie based foods (algae wafers, cucumbers, zucchini) and you can notice some decent growth in a tank...I just can stand how much pleco's poop...really insane!
looks like a huge job to catch them..
- you can make a wall of fine mesh net with stone in the buttom to keep it to the buttom of the pond to shield of the area the fish are hiding in, and then make the area smaller and smaller until you can grab them with the fishnet..
- maybe you could have two nets in your hand, to guide the fish slowly towards the surface.. make sure the net is just the right size of mesh to catch them, but not to fine to slow the speed of the net in the water !
or, place a pond heater and cover your pond with polycarbonat sheats to save the heat in the pond.. ( make sure you have air stone in the pond )
it might cost a bit to run, but its a small price to pay.. unless you are on a tight budget allready.
but I like that you are giving your fish the pond to play in at summer ! :)
Thanks, yes I looked into the heater and it would be to costly for me...I drained the pond to about 5inches and was able to catch them that way
A fish room update would be nice 🤨
And most plecos are no alge eater , they eat what lifes in the alge
Great video...looks like its going viral...gotta love that when that happens :)
Yes its always the least expected videos that take off!
Great video! I have problems just getting a pleco out of a tank, guess I shouldn't have set a common in my pond lol
Lol, yes they are so fast! The common should be easier because they usually get HUGE in no time in ponds
I have a question can someone help me????
so so awesome! did a ty video in your honor! Thanks
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Thank you, I'll check it out!
Wow ! ! ! What more can I say?!? I really enjoyed this video. . . Thanks for sharing and happy fish keeping :-)
Thanks Skip!
Why didn't you just use a few 1k watt heaters to keep the pond at temp for pleco's?
For NJ winters I'd need at least half a dozen and they would have to work non stop which will not be nice for my electric load
Just add a glass box put some food in it. It sounds simple but it that is what works for me.
Thanks I'll try that if it happens in the future...I got them out by draining it
Is it feasible to keep snake head with koi?
Probably not, I've never kept snake heads but the stories I hear and read pretty much makes them insanely aggressive....maybe adult koi won't be bothered as much, but temperature requirements are pretty off as well
Ohh yea thats a bad idea they destroy everything, over all the walls
Where do you live. How cold do your winters get? I want to maybe keep my koi in the pond for winter but I don't want him to freeze. I live in north GA. He's about 5 inches. Thanks
I live in NJ, coldest temps in winter are 10 below 0F...my pond always freezes over...that's why its important to have a pond deeper then 3ft so that the entire pond doesn't freeze, also break holes in ice for oxygen exchange. Your in GA, I doubt you guys get as cold as up here, you could definitely keep koi in a pond.
Can pleco fish cause harm to little koi and fry fish?? Cause am planing to put 2 pleco to my little trapal pond
Adult plecos may eat koi fry and maybe even small enough koi. If your pond is large, the chance decreases a bit
Use a good pair of polarized sunglasses and it will take out the glare from the Sun so you can see your fish
Why didn't I think of that! Thanks for the suggestion!
lol I can only imagine how hard it would be to catch them. But if you lower the water level it would be easier.
Looks like really beautiful koi you got there.
Thanks, yeah that'll be my best bet
Okay, here's what you do. Next year, lay a large sheet of netting over the pond. Enough to cover the bottom and walls and over the sides. Let it sink, then place rocks at the bottom and the corners to hold the netting down. Then place your fish in the pond for the season. At end of season, if you have any stragglers, you pull up the entire net to nab them.
That's definitely a awesome idea, but I'm worried some of the fish my get caught on the net?!?!?
Okay, that's a valid argument.